Hello Ameri/k/laps, e/lit/ist here. I was just watching a history channel episode about "area 51" and I was wondering if any of you finely trained combat experts ever had the privilege to work in a secret military base.
I've heard over the years they denied a bunch of stuff, only to confirm decades later it was true. What I'm wondering about, is with all these advanced weapons they revealed to be a reality, what are they covering up?
It's logical that they would distract the populous with something inconsequential, while keeping the real gem hidden.
I've seen one of the higher ups in the companies that build planes quoted as saying that what is in the public realm is decades behind what they have in storage.
tl;dr How many of you worked in secret military bases, and what were your experiences? Any of you got to fly experimental aircrafts, or retrieve crashed aircrafts?
I always find it hilarious that the silent black helicopters that conspiratards kept rambling about turned out to be real. After the UBL raid the military just straight up said "Yeah. We got silent helicopters. Whatever."
Does that mean that Uncle Sam is monitoring retired operators?
I saw a pic and I didn't believe it to be real, there was camera surveillance in a toilet, and apparently it's illegal to block it from seeing you .
I can neither confirm or deny that I may have or have not did or did not was or was not employed at groom lake within the dates of October 7, 1890 to May 20, 2035. I may or may not have or have not seen projects of a classified nature within or without said facility.
And the 40+ years of unregulated dumping of toxic aerospace chemicals. I wouldn't be surprised if it's mostly closed and they just don't want to pay for the cleanup and face lawsuits from former staff.
What types of things, that may or may not exist, that were or were not used , that you did or did not see, when you were or were not located their, or not there at groom lake or elsewhere?
Probably some form of this, or no comment at all, as in >>28843874. I know a guy of whom I knew he was in the military, but I only learned from a mutual friend of ours that he'd been in the SF business and used to do stuff he cant talk about and, and I quote directly here, "got out [of the .mil in general] because the unit he was with was 'too special'". He himself does hardly ever talk about his time in service.
Not me but my buddy was an FCC on 17s and they had a fuel leak mid flight so thet landed on a base in Pakistan to refuel and get some supplies, when they landed a white bearded dude in board shorts and a t shirt with an M4 showed up and told him to "get back on the fucking aircraft." the dude called out some of,his buddies and refueld the 17, gave them some food and they left. He looked up the code for the base when he got back and it was supposedly closed down since the mid 80s.
I have or have not been witness to the normal or abnormal run of things. There are no aliens. That I can or can not confirm or deny. Groom Lake is or is not the modern day skunk works where they do or do not create black projects such as or as not the Evangelion unit 04
Is there any news about leaks then?
Did anyone have a mental breakdown and started blabbing to everyone?
Do we have to wait 50-80 years for shit to be declassified, because the tech they are confirming is already available to the public by commercial means, thus being obsolete??
Is that the future of warfare? Mechs?
What about small power sources that have a high yield output?
They would need that cor powered body armor.
That in turn can revolutionize the prosthetic industry for injured vets by making responsive limbs that can do a range of activities, that last longer.
What is it with military bases and dumping petroleum products into their own groundwater? Hurr we got all this used oil, better dump it on the dirt, oh all this avgas has sat out in the sun too long, dump it.
Name a major base and there's probably one of these situations in the area, often with a cancer cluster associated.
>Did anyone have a mental breakdown and started blabbing to everyone?
No. Leaks don't happen at that level. The kind of people who work in this kind of installation have been screened for that very purpose.
If they have to choose between hiring the number one expert in the world who is a blabber mouth vs the tenth best guy who can take any secret to his grave, they'll choose the tenth best guy.
>After the UBL raid the military just straight up said "Yeah. We got silent helicopters. Whatever."
No they didn't. They still deny their existence to this day. They just said an advanced helicopter was lost during the raid.
I can confirm this at least for a number of RAF bases here in the UK, sections of the airfield grass where there used to be storage just fenced off and left to rot due to fuel and oil being dumped straight into the ground until environmental laws came into effect, rather than cleaning it up just put 8 foot fencing and write off a few hundred square meters, no-one has to know. Example here at RAF Shawbury where the purple pin is
Space shuttle doesn't go nearly that fast in the lower atmosphere. I'm not sure that any material known to man can go that fast in the lower atmosphere without being a gigantic fireball. Too much friction.
kek, that was a fuckup in itself, just checked to see what I can talk about, it's the Shadow R1 flown by 14Sqn based out of RAF Waddington where all our drones and other ISTAR runs out of, in terms of capability and equipment good luck finding out because all I know is all I can tell, the RAF page on it just says "The Beechcraft Shadow R1 aircraft of 14 Squadron, RAF Waddington, is part of the Intelligence, Surveillance, Target Acquisition and Reconnaissance (ISTAR) group of systems. ISTAR improves a military commander’s awareness of what is happening on the ground or in the air, allowing him to formulate sound plans in an operational environment. It is a powerful tool, indispensable when conducting modern ISTAR day operations."
They cost £650,000,000 each, bearing in mind the aircraft alone costs £5,000,000
We have procedures in place, theres a lot of shit people in the squadron won't even know about, when you go into the compound, which is a triple 16ft fence with razor wire and CCTV on every other lamp post, you go into the building where you surrender all electronics and go through a microwave body scanner, then the ops room is literally a vault, I'm talking a 1ft thick steel door.
And that was when I visited BEFORE 14Sqn moved in there.
I was in the area and spotted this a few years ago
51 has been confirmed to exist by the clinton administration. So that they could denigh the health claims of contractors and employees who were exposed to toxic waste.
Turns out a secret base generates a lot of trash and the military solution was to burn it all.
I worked at an area called Camp Copperhead somewhere in Africa. It was home to a joint-services schoolhouse for domestic and foreign intelligence officials that worked closely with American combat units. Nothing exciting or cool ever happened there, it was the worst post ever.
Area 51 is literally where we test new plane designs, mostly engines.
We don't tell anyone what's in it because China and Russia (and Iran for some weird reason) are obsessed with copy-pasting every damn thing we develop instead of coming up with their own shit.
Can anyone confirm nor deny that there may or may not be projects involving plasma in other uses than lighting/displays, combustion or electric arcs?
I would like to create a plasma sleeve around a dragon dildo.
exo skeleton suits are the future of warfare, along with hyper sonic half hour anywhere missiles, and space based weapons platform, space being dominated mainly by the USA. USA will dominate this next century and most countries will either be kissing US ass or getting btfo by the US.
Was on one in Nevada for a week. When we finished our shit we'd eat at the mess hall and get to fuck around in the courtyard of whatever building that had us in until around 7pm. At 7 we'd go to rooms and they'd literally lock the doors and block the windows for the night. Shit was pretty cash since we each got out own rooms and all the Cinemax we could want.
>I'm talking signals gathering and information warfare, as well as ground scanning radar target tracking
you guys have had that shit together since WW2 when you started messing with the Krauts
I'm sure some do, but the threat of knowing what happens if they do is enough to keep those kind of people in line.
We're not talking about Wikileaks-tier stuff, we're talking about cutting edge shit so advanced and secret that the US government would make you and your entire family disappear for leaking it.
The president isn't necessarily required to know most of what goes on in the military; while the president basically has the highest possible security clearance you could need, he is still only fed information on need to know basis. Though I can imagine, since he's the president, the definition of 'need' can be pretty loose.
It would NOT be loose with high level national secrets. If he knows about anything at that level, it would probably be for a good reason. That being said, pretty much everyone knows about area 51.
Didn't he Prez authorize some new "super sekrit" helicopter in the hunt for Bin Laden's compound?
Didn't the seals say that they had some shit they used that they couldn't talk about?
Was that it? I know one crashed and they had to "nuke" it so people wouldn't get the tech.
Also why is it that if there are "alien encounters " there is usually some military base close by?
Is it the military dudes just fucking around on civis, or is it aliens scouting us?
I think something like 86% or 87% of Nevada is owned by the US Govt and controlled by the various branches of the US military.
Nah. They just build a rather large set of hangers over the last 5 years. It's still in use. It's also more or less run by private companies, but it's on military land. It's not uncommon for senior officers within the big defense companies to make trips out to bases like Area 51 for projects they're a part of, even if it's a relatively small supply deal for some non-secret part or component that's needed for a secret project. C-level executives at these companies probably make fairly regular trips considering the money involved in these projects.
Work is done during the day, testing done at night. Testing is also restricted by spy satellite overflights by foreign nations.
So is this one dick waving competition?
America builds something, releases it, China/Russia builds something bigger to show they can.
Of course they will have hidden cameras to peep and see what your dick looks like before they reveal theirs.
I actually do know someone who was transferred there before. It's nothing special, just an AFB. There are tons of other bases in Nevada like it, and even some military towns. The only reason it has so much security is because everyone wants to get in to it.
Ask questions and I'll answer them if i can, but basically the capability we have for tracking targets and gathering information was way more advanced than i had realised, see >>28850025
I cant say much on the capabilities, but the scope of operations, and how often these missions are flown surprised me. I was under the impression that they would be flown on an 'as required' basis, but they are up there almost 24/7 so they can react quickly if needed
I was at camp parks, CA for training. Drank a bunch over there and kept passing condemned buildings on base while going to chow
I went to one of the underground fallout shelters and started getting dizzy and short of breath and my heart was racing and my head felt cold got back to my barracks and relaxed was that methane poisoning or something more dangerous?
The used to do testing on plantlife and other shit with radiation to examine the effects over there