VP9/40 reliable or not?

>>28730337
>So which one is it? Is there a middleground that we can all agree on?

How about fucking test it yourself

>>28730337
VP9 is shit, an exposed striker channel for the sake of a worthless design to cater to politicians and safety sallies took a potentially awesome thing (a reintroduction of a striker fired gun into H&Ks lineup) and make it nothing more than a range toy.

Also sage for not creating a broader topic post.

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>>28730337
VP9 owner here. For personal defense, I would advise against it based on personal experience. It is alot more picky with which ammo it likes compared to my glock or beretta. I've just experienced more stoppages with it overall.

That said, it is very comfy and the trigger's decent, so if you want it as a range toy than go for it.

>>28730531
then*

why was the vp9 such a blunder compared to the ultra boringly reliable USP line and its progeny?

>>28730337

it was so shit MacShill stopped bothering carrying it

Failures from my experience:

VP9 500 rounds 2 failures: 1-failure to feed with Freedom Munitions 124gr, 1-doublefeed with Sellier & Bellot 115gr.

P226 MK25 3,500 rounds 0 failures

Glock 17 Gen 4 1500 rounds 7 failures: 2 with WWB both failure to feed. 1 failure to extract, WWB. 4 failure to lock slide open after last round without user error(widely known CA compliant mag issue)

Glock 19 - too many failures to count

1911 - surprisingly no failures after 1k rounds

USP45 - no failures after 1k rounds

I own both a VP9 and P226(MK25 Exetershit). The P226 is just more reliable, I haven't have much luck with striker fired guns not even Glocks. The P226 will literally fire everytime I pull the trigger. I can post proof of owning both of you want. I have since sold my USP(rather shoot my 1911), Glock17/19(no more Glocks for me). I still own the VP9 but will be selling that soon or maybe trading it for a Sig/1911.

TL;DR SF just seem to hate me.

>>28730337
>"mud test" involves dunking the pistol in water, shaking it off, throwing dirt on top, leaving it so the water can seep out of the pistol, then firing it
Wow.

>>28730694
I also wanted to add that out of all of the firearms I own, the VP9 is one that is NOT designed to be reparable by the end user. Good luck if you buy it used.

>>28730554
HK tried to show everyone they can do striker fired pistols too aka trying to play catch up.

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>>28730531
>VP9
>9mm
>stoppages
I don't think you'll be stopping anything with that, know what I mean?

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>>28731874
.40, .45 , and 10mm are all meme calibers though.

>>28730337
If some are reliable, and some arent, it's inconsistent manufacturing or a poor design that can suck or be great depending on how tolerances stack up.

hilarious how /k/ H&K shills bought this mediocre pistol

>>28730694

> Glock 19 - too many failures to count

Found the limp wristing faggot. And keeping your failures logged this well... I fucking doubt it, kid.

I know you don't like Glocks, but I have never seen one fail on the line. Never seen a Sig fail on the line. VP9? Picky, hates the dirt more than the M9.

>>28735300
>limp wristing faggot
no, he was just too dumb to get it fixed

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>>28732027
That's why you carry .38 SuperComp faggot

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>>28730337
>>28730694
>>28730374

absolutely love mine. carry it everyday.
>it's comfortable
>I enjoy the trigger (some don't)
>I'm accurate with it
Now this nonsense of it being an absolute piece of shit is getting annoying.
Now I don't go around diving in mud, rolling in sand, throwing it at a trees and then say it's not a glock (bro) it should have fired....
I shoot in the rain (PNW here) all the time (ehhh water it can't handle it ehhhh. I call bullshit).
Have had one miss fire out of about 2000 rounds and one stove pipe (really shitty ammo).
>yes, she is picky about steel casings so stay away from there (cleaning after that is a nightmare).

just posting from another VP9 thread..... uhhhhh fml.... alright here.

>>28735525
No issues with mine. Shot about 1500 rounds through it.

>>28730337
i will never understand any of these fucking test.....all it proves he's an asshole.

>>28736284
it's was some weird shit that a friend loaned, they where steel casings. so I don't even know if it counts as an actual fault on the gun...

>>28730337
Put it this way, there are no VP's in service as an issued sidearm in any LEO departments, military branches or special units of either.

Reliability is a pretty big ball to drop, especially with modern firearms.

>>28733246
Isnt it great?

I feel so sorry for the poor retards who bought into this. VP9/VP40 are literal shit.

HK itself is great but has a history to
a) Being fairly liberal and kowtowing to governmental / anti-fun lobby pressure
b) Pushing cheap designs en masse despite complete lack of testing, simply stamping their names onto them as if that made them more functional.

>>28730554

First time HK has made a totally new pistol in many moons. And it's made to suit the needs of the consumer market, not a military.

>>28738855
>>28739058

HK hates the civilian market; the VP9 was a result of years of losses in that market. When you don't make anything for a long time what is going to happen? HK makes amazing shit, and I hate posting shit like

>>28735300

but when I'm training a basic pistol and tactical (I hate the title too) course and someone's having issues with ammo that processes in almost every service model... It's a bad system. We do offer a full shot house experience as well as "mud crawl" to see how ppls gear will hold up... VP9 and the Beretta M92 have never done well.

>>28730337
>VP9 has been reliable in water and mine has around 2.5K rounds through it.

Where I recently started seeing issues is in the magazines. since they have gone 2.5K shooting really dirty reloads I've noticed two mags fail to hold the slide open upon empty.

I doubt its a spring tenson thing and more of a built up crud issue. On the flip side, I never clean my M9 mags and have never had this issue.

Seeing as P30/VP9 mags are $40 a pop I would expect better than this.

I still like the VP9 but I think she needs more work before I can trust her as an EDC gun again.

>>28730337
>There are so many differing tests and results

that is the first torture test I've seen where the VP9 allegedly passes. I add allegedly because the video is edited between being fouled and being shot both times.

>>28730554
HK tried to make a cheaper, simpler design for poorfags and trying to get in on the striker market. they went ultra cheap with the design to keep themselves from putting an 800 dollar price tag on it and low and behold it was a piece of trash

I'll just use this thread for an HK question

Is the P2000sk being phased out? I've been looking online for the 9mm V3 model and everywhere except gunbroker is showing this model sold out. Are they just in low supply or is the p2000sk being done away with for the p30sk?

The only time my G19 has had problems was this shitty brand of target ammo I bought and used at a local range/gunstore.

One other person with a Glock pistol a few booths over was having problems too, and they had a box of the same shit on their table.

HK just needs more time to shake down their pistol.

>>28738855
>>28739090
Both of you are wrong.

>>28739199
>since they have gone 2.5K shooting really dirty reloads I've noticed two mags fail to hold the slide open upon

If you read the manual, you would know you are supposed to clean them after 1,000 rounds.

>>28735525
Came here for this basically since all the eXtreme tests are interesting, but don't really apply to me anyway. People get kinda carried away with the fantasy. If it were that big of a deal to me I would have it reeled like an 80 series 1911 but I don't see myself being thrown into the world of human for 40 years.

Though a scenario where I'm so covered in shit that my rifle AND sidearm have gone down seems fun. Probably means the mora exploded on impact and pants disentigrated due to not being crye

>>28740389
senpai is correct

>>28739090
>HK hates the civilian market

Very convinient of you to put this at the beginning of your post so I don't have to read the rest to know you're a retard that knows nothing about the subject at hand.

>>28738632
Wow what a useless fucking post. How dare agencies not use that infinite budget to replace gear with ever so slightly different gear because it's new.

VP9 ashit. Paddle release is too long and prone to breakage due to extra leverage. Back of frame near slide rear is fragile and prone to breakage. It was made to cater to poorfags who will purposely spend $200 less on something thats an unknown instead of just paying it and getting a time-proven USP.

also,
>G17 size
>only holds 15 rounds of LOLonly9mm
what a complete blunder

>>28730694
>Glock 19 - too many failures to count
explain yourself pleb. What gen and what ammo?

>>28740263
just buy a time-proven USPCompact

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>>28740604
>paddle release is too long and prone to breakage due to extra leverage.....
wtf are you talking about.... its protected by the trigger guard unless you are some kind of mongoloid...... and don't know how to actually take care of a gun...
>Glock 19- too many failures to count
It has had feed issues with several types ammo.
I can google that for you if you want..... that way you don't break your keyboard trying to type....

>>28740604
I love how the VP9 being in or slightly above the price range of every other respectable offering is suddenly indicative or poorfags, while if you aren't fucking blind you can find a US withing 100-150 of a VP9. But hey, keep on shitposting

>>28740675
>It has had feed issues with several types ammo.
explain your pleb ass. Thats as broad as me saying every gun you own has failed due to your error.

and as for the paddle mag release breaking, go look it up on google images. It gets caught on molle webbing, clothes, belt loops, etc etc and breaks right at the halfway mark.

>>28740599
>How dare agencies not use that infinite budget to replace gear with ever so slightly different gear because it's new

because it's shit?

>>28730694
Ditto for my Mk25, although I've had user induced failures - failure to lock slide back - that slide release is right where my thumb wants to rest, switched grips so it's good now.
I've shot G17's/19's alot and while I've had issues they are nowhere near the rate you've had them, most will do at least 500 rounds without hiccup

>>28740716
My local police carry vp9
>>28740701
https://youtu.be/sT9fv9kG1jc
https://youtu.be/AOD1Q2eMEig

here is a bonus
https://youtu.be/h4lb8dQqx7M

>>28740775
>>28740701
I knew you couldn't google that so you're welcome anon

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too much fun watching VP9fags struggle to save their favorite guns dignity

>>28730531
Fellow vp9 owner here. It's strange you say that because my vp9 hasn't been even remotely picky with ammo. I've had even had nogunz try it out and shoot limp wristed, again no problems.

>>28730337
Watch the MAC tp9 video comparing it to the vp9. More stoppages for the tp9 than the vp9 but some how he claims the canik is s better gun. It's almost as if that's the day the check cleared.

If the VP9 was shit there would have been a massive shitstorm on all of the forums. But there isn't, you guys remember the faulty first run Gen4 that doesn't have the beavervtail? Now that, that is what you call an unreliable gun.

>>28743037
there has been a shit storm though and really, comparing the VP9 to Gen 4... dude

>>28740389
Now why the hell would I read the manual?

>>28730337
its a pos, and no, dunking it in water and throwing dirt on for 30 seconds allowing the water to drain out doesnt show anything for a water test

next time the guy should dunk in water, then pull it out clear barrel and THEN SHOOT IT IMMEDIATELY AFTER, not wait some time so the pathetic thing can have all the water drain out of the channels of it

this was nothing more than a dirt test and no more