Am i the only one whos dick is diamonds over the repro stg44 coming out of georgia?
It would be more accurate to call it "inspired by" the STG-44.
The barrel assembly is significantly different and the trigger assembly is from a G3. There are other, more minor, changes on top of that.
Not saying it isn't cool, but it's a bit of a stretch to call it a "repro".
It's a lot better and more economical for a STG which I am fine with. The STG had a lot of problems and they are over priced thanks to the History Channel and Wehraboos in general. Not to be a slavaboo but hell the AKM is better made than the 1944-45 production STG.
But they're way out of the trailerpark neonazi's budget.
>That fresh off the factory line look
Not saying I don't want one but I'd go some job to weather the damn thing ASAP and probably apply a layer of thinned paint to the stock and grip
Why the fuck would you do that. That's ruining its value essentially as well as you make yourself look like a dumbass at the range with a replica StG covered in RubNBuff.
G3 trigger was basically the next step over the STG-44's and the barrel assembly really isn't that different.
Honestly if the nazis kept fighting into the 50's this is likely where the gun would have gone. You're not seeing a reproduction, instead you're basically seeing alternative history made real.
>chambered in original 7.92x33mm Kurz
>options for 5.56x45mm NATO and .300 Blackout
>>it's a toy that resembles the stg44
But like >>28717280 said, its more of something inspired by the STG-44. Is a bit disappointing, as it was being advertised as a "reproduction" the whole time up until now.
It's still cool though and I'm planning to get one in 7.62. Or I plan to as long as the factory mags are original profile like they're advertising, since STANAG 7.62x39 mags look fucking disgusting.
It'll be expensive to buy enough extra mags but whatever. It'll be cheaper since I won't be spending retard prices for PPU 8mm Kurz whenever I want to shoot it. And if it's like Ian says, it will be more similar to shooting an original in 8mm, since it weighs a bit more and 7.62 recoils a bit more.
Probably wont happen, but it would be a dream come true if this inspired other manufacturers to start producing a line of STGs that are more similar to the originals for the same price range or lower. Even more so if it caused more ammo manufacturers to invest in 8mm Kurz and drive down the prices.
They are msrp for 1800 but i bet MUH LIMITED PRODUCTION MUH BAMA TAKE AWAY I KNOW WHAT I GOT 4500 OBO
Not too ridiculously expensive, but more than you'd be paying for your averag cheap .308 or 7.62x51
Why do you retards always spout this meme that you have to be wehraboos to think some of the German gun designs are cool
What do you mean by die? The barrel will be worn out, it will next a new bolt head? It will blow up and you will die with the gun? The piston will turn into a spear on round 5001?
Because it'd be an actual repro and as such neat to fiddle about with, if I want a tilting bolt semi-auto I can run a billion rounds through I'll go and buy an SKS
I meant it as "and/or"
>fiddle about with
>most of the trigger mechanism is riveted to the grip
>most other parts are similar in function
So you'll break out the drill, air hammer and special snowflake rivets every time you want to play with it?
For an $1800 "improved" STG, I would want something that is reliable and well designed. Not saying that this isn't, but if the company made changes to it, particularly changing the caliber while maintaining the original magazine shape, I want to know that they made a good decision.
Not directly related but you and another guy make two interwoven points. The other guy said these would go for 4500 because of limited availability. There are two outcomes, buy more and risk there being done unreliability and hence the guns would be valued much, or buy now and they are great but production is small relative to the demand a decent priced reliable stg would bring and you can sell for 4k. I can see either happening
That is one, so fucking illegible that the minute the judge sees it the money would immediately reimbursed ad the guy thrown in jail and two would be more work than actually giving the product at the price.
What the hell is wrong with you?
He meant that they would have an msrp of 1799 buy anyone who actually had one in stock would raise the price to suit demand. I doubt it would really be that bad but I could see people saying, if these were popular and reliable, that you could not find one for under 2200 in stock
The Stg.44 and Stg.45 (which is the ancestor of the G3) have very little in common besides sights, magazine, and caliber.
I'm still not seeing what you're talking about, one of the few things the G3 inherited from the STG44 was the general concept (well, aside from caliber lol) and the ergonomics. So yeah, the G3's much more robust and modern trigger would absolutely be the next step in the STG44 lineage had it kept going.
Really haven't disproved anything I said anon
Apparently, they literally finished work on the demo guns the week before shot shot, of course it looks clean.
Also, am I the only person here who actually put in a preorder for one of these? Mine is going to be in .300 blk since I wanted to use my existing magazines and have a rifle in a caliber other than 5.56. I preordered because i wanted to make sure I actually got one and also because as a weeaboo buyfag preordering something is the default reaction to seeing things I like.
Problem with real repos is that they are going to be more expensive, since the original has a fuck-ton of stupid design decisions (the bolt in particular) made, which make is so expensive.
Damn. I envy u americunts. I'm sitting here in no gunz germoneyz and want one. But since it's only semi auto, there's still hope.
Yeah maybe a refugee will smuggle some in for yuh
My bad. The CETME was developed by Centro de Estudios Técnicos Materiales Especiales with Ludwig Vorgrimler the developer of the STG-45 involved.
Still the STG-44 and 45 share my design choices and the HMG reproduction takes a bit of both with some additional design choices you can make because of better materials and... well... no war going on.
It wasn't stupid more than they were flying by the seat of thier pants during the tail end of a disastrous war. Lead to set headspacing and riviting the trigger group makes sense when the lifespan of the weapon is 'until a favorable truth can be reached' and it takes no specialized machines or good materials for rivets while captive pins and washers would waste precious machining time and wear down tooling and waste precious spring steel, there was a drive to save every gram of steel and second of time possible.
I know it's a clone but I'm keeping it as close as possible. Buying the rounds for .70 a piece so it's not too expensive
Because that's 8x33 kurz dumbnut
Still there were questionable choices, which I can understand with the end drawing near (like the many machined faces on the extractor), but in the end hurt the rifle more than it helped.
>preordered mine in December
>still January feels like its been 10 years
>wont be out till June
The guys seem to have gone all or nothing on them so the good news is that June will probably be the latest.
>tfw too much of a pussy to preorder and will probably have to wait until next year before they are back in stock
I'll see how good my friend's is in x39 but I really hope my fears of bad early run hiccups are proven to be stupid shit and I am forced to wallow in pain.
Okay. Aside from your nice duble dubs I don't care what you're talking about because nothing you're saying has anything to do with what I originally said.
You can say "oh the stg and gerat 06 have little in common" all you want and then argue it until you're blue in the face but I wasn't originally talking about that. I was talking about the STG-N's design and features being what would have likely come about had the STG-44 been used well into the 1950's.
I don't even know why you're arguing against me. I don't give a fuck about the Gerat 06.
I got one in 7.62X39 on preorder
Only bummer I have with it is that the mags are going to be plastic... hopefully a metal mag will come out in the future
This... I actually stayed up late and placed the preorder on 12:00AM day 1.
tfw I might get production #1
Keep wishing poorfag Pleb, Don't you have a Hipoint to be throwing at someone right now?
I think it might be time to establish I wasn't the original guy
My posts were a response to a fellow talking about how the "stg and the gerat are the same"
Nothing else, except for the gerat's close relationship with the g3
There are a few collectors here in the US with preban STG's and last ditch nazi auto/bolt guns chambered in 7,92x33.
Most is sent to the "moderate Syrian rebels" due to a ton of STG's popping up in the ME.
When you figure out how to socially network and funnel money to a middle eastern warzone filled with radical Islamists without ending up on some kind of list and having the package intercepted.
>"The guns displayed at the show were obviously very early prototype guns (they were completed only just in time for the show), and displayed some general roughness and want for polish – however, this is entirely excusable given the deadline of the SHOT Show and the ambitiousness of the project."
You seem price-minded, so I'm so confused why you don't get it in 5.56 or even .300blk. 5.56 would be significantly cheaper to get mags for and bretty cheap prices, .300blk is getting there and has the same magazine options. You're gonna be bleeding money for those mags and I predict 7.62 is probably gonna normalize to 5.56 prices, even for steel.
Chill out there, Hans.
You have literal roaming bands of rape monkeys. It needs to be brought up, like how Indians just shit where they walk and shake it out of their pantlegs as they continue merrily on.
And I don't know what kind of basic you run where the recruits have time to talk back to their Training Instructor...
>people cry that it is not 1:1 repro
>they literally want this
>HANS MEIN KOMERFRADERBANGANATOR
>JA FRANZ HERR GROBBELGREPPENFRABENAR?
>ZE CLOCKS, ZE MAKE MY KOMMONKRABBLERABNLEGOBBEL GO BLABBINFLABBINGROBELFLUEG!
>ITT butthurt autists claim that the gun is not a *true repro
>uses STG gas system,
>Uses improved STG trunion design
>uses similar steel stampings for construction
>Uses trigger group shell that is the same dimensions as originals, While the SSD ones were different
>can use original wood furniture
>Bolt and piston more like MK42B... which was in the STG family tree
>muh tilting bolt
>uses the same sights
>uses the same stacking swivels
>many of the external and internal parts will be interchangeable
HUUR...NOT ORIGONAL WOULD NOT BANG
Also shitting on a company that has resurrected a timeless design with an affordable price to the marketplace and is not just regurgitating yet another AR15, AK, or extruded aluminium dressed up AR18
Stay Pleb komandos... stay Pleb
I kinda want to see if it could be chambered 9mm and use an ar-15 magwell adapter for MAC mags.
You're comparing the current looks of actual old-as-fuck STGs with a brand new ones.
Stain the wood yourself if you want it to look old, rough the gun up with use if you want it to shine more.
This is simultaneously the most common and least thought out complaint I've heard.
I'm with this anon. Its not a stg, it just looks like one on the outside.
Its not a repro if they don't reproduce it in entirety. Pic related a reproduction m249
for the price tag I would honestly rather get something else. MSRP is $1800, for that I can get a SCAR at my local shop, or I can SBR a CZ EVO for about $1100 and spend the other $700 on mags, a reloading setup, and a new chest rig for it (cuz fuck it why not)
Anybody know of any "how to" guides for this? I have a Mosin with nice wear and patina to it, but the bayonet I bought for it had been sitting in cosmoline since the war.
I know it's dumb, but it bothers me that they don't match. All my other rifles have bayonets of similar wear.
> Watching that video
> Dick is already diamonds
> Notice the QT Redhead in the background
> Dick becomes so hard it warps time and space around it
Very nice. I graduate this semester so I really hope they are still selling them when I start working.
>Not a true stg
Case head size would be the issue, the bolt would have to be AR-10 sized. Perhaps some kind of special snowflake AR15 upper that takes 7.62x39 using AR10 sized bolt head, like a hypothetical CMMG mutant upper that fits onto AR15 lowers, using HMG's 8mm Kurz magazines.
Speaking of the CMMG, I have thought of simply getting a custom made 8mm Kurz AR barrel to fit the Mutant, and running 8mm Kurz out of AK magazines.
The Pakistanis adapted their AKs to fire 8mm Kurz by nigger rechambering the barrel. An AK build with a proper 8x33 barrel, perhaps using the thicker profile RPK barrel to compensate for the bigger bore, would be the easiest route to obtain a non STG-44 gun firing 8mm Kurz.