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Am i the only one whos dick is diamonds over the repro stg44 coming out of georgia?
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>>28717226
>repro stg44

It would be more accurate to call it "inspired by" the STG-44.

The barrel assembly is significantly different and the trigger assembly is from a G3. There are other, more minor, changes on top of that.

Not saying it isn't cool, but it's a bit of a stretch to call it a "repro".
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>>28717226
No. No you're not.
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>>28717280
It's a lot better and more economical for a STG which I am fine with. The STG had a lot of problems and they are over priced thanks to the History Channel and Wehraboos in general. Not to be a slavaboo but hell the AKM is better made than the 1944-45 production STG.
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But they're way out of the trailerpark neonazi's budget.
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>Wood
>That fresh off the factory line look

Eww

Not saying I don't want one but I'd go some job to weather the damn thing ASAP and probably apply a layer of thinned paint to the stock and grip
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>>28717327
it feels wrong seeing an STG without the glossiness.
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>>28717280
It isn't even marketed as a stg 44, it's stg-n
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>>28717327
Why the fuck would you do that. That's ruining its value essentially as well as you make yourself look like a dumbass at the range with a replica StG covered in RubNBuff.
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>>28717327
How would you weather the bluing?
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>>28717280
G3 trigger was basically the next step over the STG-44's and the barrel assembly really isn't that different.

Honestly if the nazis kept fighting into the 50's this is likely where the gun would have gone. You're not seeing a reproduction, instead you're basically seeing alternative history made real.
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>>28717325
memes
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Franklin Armory is looking into making a BFS trigger pack for the G3.
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>>28717226

You mean it's a toy that resembles the stg44?
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>>28717322
Dubs of truth
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>>28717380
Yeah a range toy
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>>28717370
I'm just digging through my /k/ folder from 8 to 10 years ago.
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$4000 for a dressed up PTR. No thanks.
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>>28717380
>chambered in original 7.92x33mm Kurz
>options for 5.56x45mm NATO and .300 Blackout

>>it's a toy that resembles the stg44

what
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What's it chambered in?
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>>28717226
No

But like >>28717280 said, its more of something inspired by the STG-44. Is a bit disappointing, as it was being advertised as a "reproduction" the whole time up until now.

It's still cool though and I'm planning to get one in 7.62. Or I plan to as long as the factory mags are original profile like they're advertising, since STANAG 7.62x39 mags look fucking disgusting.

It'll be expensive to buy enough extra mags but whatever. It'll be cheaper since I won't be spending retard prices for PPU 8mm Kurz whenever I want to shoot it. And if it's like Ian says, it will be more similar to shooting an original in 8mm, since it weighs a bit more and 7.62 recoils a bit more.

Probably wont happen, but it would be a dream come true if this inspired other manufacturers to start producing a line of STGs that are more similar to the originals for the same price range or lower. Even more so if it caused more ammo manufacturers to invest in 8mm Kurz and drive down the prices.
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>>28717380
its not the .22 version that isn't even a close reproduction
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>>28717428
Disregard, I posted before refreshing and seeing >>28717423
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>>28717416
>$4,000
It's $1700.
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>>28717371
Too bad if they did that since the way the fire rate selector works on the originals is different. Still would be cool though.
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>>28717416
the MSRP is 1,800 so, you know, you are probably retarded

More like the price of a good AR

>>28717428
options are 8mm kurz, .223, 7.62x39, and .300 blackout
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>>28717428
options are
>5.56/223
>7.62x39
>300 blackout
>8mm kurz
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They are msrp for 1800 but i bet MUH LIMITED PRODUCTION MUH BAMA TAKE AWAY I KNOW WHAT I GOT 4500 OBO
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How expensive is 7.92x33?
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>>28717226
I'll probably wait a year or two but this is perfect for my 1960's nazi build.
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>>28717473
Well get one while the getting is good.
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>>28717498
Not too ridiculously expensive, but more than you'd be paying for your averag cheap .308 or 7.62x51

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=AP8KFMJ&name=Prvi+8mm+Kurz+124grn+20rd+Box&groupid=44
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>>28717498
Free on google.
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>>28717390
>my disk has lasted 10 years
YOU FUCKING LIE
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>make a gun for gun autists/wehraboos
>don't even try to make it an accurate repro
Not impressed
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>>28717613
If was an accurate repro it would die in about 5k rounds

Why would you want that?
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>>28717613
Why do you retards always spout this meme that you have to be wehraboos to think some of the German gun designs are cool
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>>28717626
You know they tested the original stg design at 10-15k rounds before they put it into production right?
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>>28717515
Thanks anon
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>>28717325
KEK
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>>28717626
What do you mean by die? The barrel will be worn out, it will next a new bolt head? It will blow up and you will die with the gun? The piston will turn into a spear on round 5001?
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How Badly will I be chastised for wanting one in .223 so that I don't have to buy another type of ammo?
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>>28717626
Because it'd be an actual repro and as such neat to fiddle about with, if I want a tilting bolt semi-auto I can run a billion rounds through I'll go and buy an SKS
>>28717638
I meant it as "and/or"
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>>28717685
I want the 5.56/223 one too so your not alone
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>>28717691
Fair enough
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>>28717388
>you're range toy

4 u
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>>28717847
Or perhaps he's wondering why you would chamber a rifle in .300BLK without a threaded barrel
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>>28717520
data can be transfered from one computer to another
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>>28717929
the barrel is threaded though
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>>28717929

Because you get 7.62x39 performance without the retarded geometry?
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>>28717929
the barrels are threaded its just got barrel nut on it
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>>28717691
>fiddle about with
>most of the trigger mechanism is riveted to the grip
>most other parts are similar in function
So you'll break out the drill, air hammer and special snowflake rivets every time you want to play with it?
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For an $1800 "improved" STG, I would want something that is reliable and well designed. Not saying that this isn't, but if the company made changes to it, particularly changing the caliber while maintaining the original magazine shape, I want to know that they made a good decision.
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>>28717226
>The STG-44 is a restricted firearm in Canada
>At least it will be cheaper

I'll probably buy one anyways
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>>28718086
This honestly.

I want one in 7.62 with the original profile mags they advertise. But I'm worried they won't feed properly
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>>28718114

Non-restricted with an 18.5" barrel.
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>>28718086
Not directly related but you and another guy make two interwoven points. The other guy said these would go for 4500 because of limited availability. There are two outcomes, buy more and risk there being done unreliability and hence the guns would be valued much, or buy now and they are great but production is small relative to the demand a decent priced reliable stg would bring and you can sell for 4k. I can see either happening
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>>28718149
> The other guy said these would go for 4500
He's wrong. Read the thread.
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>>28718206
That's what they say until they send you the bill, that's how they get you. This is nothing but a scam.
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>>28718228
That is one, so fucking illegible that the minute the judge sees it the money would immediately reimbursed ad the guy thrown in jail and two would be more work than actually giving the product at the price.

What the hell is wrong with you?
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>>28718206
He meant that they would have an msrp of 1799 buy anyone who actually had one in stock would raise the price to suit demand. I doubt it would really be that bad but I could see people saying, if these were popular and reliable, that you could not find one for under 2200 in stock
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>>28718118
>>28718086
Why would they put all that effort into designing the changes to the gun, only to make the mags not work?
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>>28718269
Why did you even respond?
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>>28718269
There's plenty of suckers out there, you need to work on your naivety.
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>>28717351
>refinishing particleboard lowers its value!
thanks for the info. I'll take this all the way to the "stupid things anon has said on /k/" bank.
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>>28717366
The Stg.44 and Stg.45 (which is the ancestor of the G3) have very little in common besides sights, magazine, and caliber.
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>>28718378
[citation needed]

Talking about the trigger group specifically which you have disputed. Pony up anon and show me I'm wrong.
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>>28718434
Holy tits just go watch a disassembly video Jesus anon.
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>>28717366
New order?

Good game, felt hefty, guns are still vidya but nice to see alt history shit
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>>28717327

I don't like how clean it looks. It's like a big toy.
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>>28718378
>but the only reason the gerat was adopted was to save money and produce more guns

The gerat would not have happened if Germany had money.
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Reasonably priced FG 42 when?
Im thinking of getting all the WWII guns...but in original caliber...so I am waiting....
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>>28718516
>The gerat would not have happened if Germany had materiel.
FTFY. Can't make guns out of gold bricks.
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>>28717416
Its not the same manufacturer tard. even then the base price is 1,800.
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>>28718445
I'm still not seeing what you're talking about, one of the few things the G3 inherited from the STG44 was the general concept (well, aside from caliber lol) and the ergonomics. So yeah, the G3's much more robust and modern trigger would absolutely be the next step in the STG44 lineage had it kept going.

Really haven't disproved anything I said anon
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>>28718061
Yes. And that trigger mechanism is the most interesting part of the whole gun IMO
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I'd shoot IPSC in full fucking uniform if I could get one
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>>28718470

Apparently, they literally finished work on the demo guns the week before shot shot, of course it looks clean.

Also, am I the only person here who actually put in a preorder for one of these? Mine is going to be in .300 blk since I wanted to use my existing magazines and have a rifle in a caliber other than 5.56. I preordered because i wanted to make sure I actually got one and also because as a weeaboo buyfag preordering something is the default reaction to seeing things I like.
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>>28717365
Literally apply smoke to it.
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>>28718445
Go watch Ians vids about the HMG reproduction.

An G3 is a step over CETME, which is a development of the STG
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>>28717432
Problem with real repos is that they are going to be more expensive, since the original has a fuck-ton of stupid design decisions (the bolt in particular) made, which make is so expensive.

Damn. I envy u americunts. I'm sitting here in no gunz germoneyz and want one. But since it's only semi auto, there's still hope.
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>>28719500
Yeah maybe a refugee will smuggle some in for yuh
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>>28719810
Nice insult you have there,,. Did you buy it for a cent of a kid at the lemonade stand?

I've heard better verbal abuse from my 18yr old recruits in basic.
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I bought one of those GSG STG44s in .22 is that counts for anything
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>>28718733
That's because you don't understand what I'm talking about.
I was saying the stg and the great o6h have very little in common.

>>28719456
You've got it somewhat flipped.
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>>28717325
>afghanis used AKs to kill Russians
>early israelis used german K98s
>I ran over a german guy with my BMW
You know we're talking about inanimate objects, right?
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Sorry I'm late to the party
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>>28719933
My bad. The CETME was developed by Centro de Estudios Técnicos Materiales Especiales with Ludwig Vorgrimler the developer of the STG-45 involved.
Still the STG-44 and 45 share my design choices and the HMG reproduction takes a bit of both with some additional design choices you can make because of better materials and... well... no war going on.
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>>28719981
Why the og caliber?
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>>28719500
It wasn't stupid more than they were flying by the seat of thier pants during the tail end of a disastrous war. Lead to set headspacing and riviting the trigger group makes sense when the lifespan of the weapon is 'until a favorable truth can be reached' and it takes no specialized machines or good materials for rivets while captive pins and washers would waste precious machining time and wear down tooling and waste precious spring steel, there was a drive to save every gram of steel and second of time possible.
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>>28719997
I know it's a clone but I'm keeping it as close as possible. Buying the rounds for .70 a piece so it's not too expensive
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>>28719997
Because that's 8x33 kurz dumbnut

>>28720022
Still there were questionable choices, which I can understand with the end drawing near (like the many machined faces on the extractor), but in the end hurt the rifle more than it helped.
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>>28717280
>Unobtanium barrels and triggers
>VS
>Actually having the chance to legally own a STG
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>>28717226
>>28717226
who 8 kurz here
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>>28720194
I shall pretend that the chamber of the rifle is Berlin and every round of 7.62 is a greasy slavic dick.
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>>28720194
I've posted the proof of mine. It will fit in well with the bath tub collection
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>>28719003
>>28719003
>preordered mine in December
>still January feels like its been 10 years
>wont be out till June
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>>28717929
Some Euro countries have laws saying they can't use rifles in NATO calibers. Easy work around.
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>>28720261
The guys seem to have gone all or nothing on them so the good news is that June will probably be the latest.

>tfw too much of a pussy to preorder and will probably have to wait until next year before they are back in stock
I'll see how good my friend's is in x39 but I really hope my fears of bad early run hiccups are proven to be stupid shit and I am forced to wallow in pain.
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>>28717929
>>28717380
>I like to judge guns but I don't know dick about them
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>>28717638
>wehraboos

And there goes my beer.
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>>28720582

drinking on a thursday night. classy.
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>>28720229
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>>28720582

is it like your first day here?
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>>28719933
Okay. Aside from your nice duble dubs I don't care what you're talking about because nothing you're saying has anything to do with what I originally said.

You can say "oh the stg and gerat 06 have little in common" all you want and then argue it until you're blue in the face but I wasn't originally talking about that. I was talking about the STG-N's design and features being what would have likely come about had the STG-44 been used well into the 1950's.

I don't even know why you're arguing against me. I don't give a fuck about the Gerat 06.
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>>28717226
https://www.hmgunworks.com/product/hmg-sturmgewehr-stg-p/

Pistola versiona
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>>28717226
I got one in 7.62X39 on preorder

Only bummer I have with it is that the mags are going to be plastic... hopefully a metal mag will come out in the future

>>28720261

This... I actually stayed up late and placed the preorder on 12:00AM day 1.

tfw I might get production #1
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>>28720065
Kinda surprised there's new production 8mm kurz. Why is that? As far as I know the only firearm produced in any numbers chambered in it is the STG.
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>>28720353
Watch it be like the remington r51.
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So how does 8mm Kurz perform ballistically?
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>>28717515
The prices are low considering how few guns are chambered in this caliber, and prices will go down if these things get popular
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>>28721675
Keep wishing poorfag Pleb, Don't you have a Hipoint to be throwing at someone right now?
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>>28721836
Maybe.
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>>28717226
all that dated technology with none of the historical significance
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>>28717685
Don't let people hate you for being logical.
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>>28721682

Almost identical to supersonic .300 BLK...
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>>28719987
>>28721351
I think it might be time to establish I wasn't the original guy

My posts were a response to a fellow talking about how the "stg and the gerat are the same"
Nothing else, except for the gerat's close relationship with the g3
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>>28721630
There are a few collectors here in the US with preban STG's and last ditch nazi auto/bolt guns chambered in 7,92x33.

Most is sent to the "moderate Syrian rebels" due to a ton of STG's popping up in the ME.
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>>28722949
When are the Kurds gonna send us some STG parts kits?
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>>28723121
When you figure out how to socially network and funnel money to a middle eastern warzone filled with radical Islamists without ending up on some kind of list and having the package intercepted.
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http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/01/19/shot-2016-hmg-sturmgewehr-arrived/

I dunno...if final production looks like these demos I would be pissed.
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>>28717226

Well, no, but I can't see the appeal or the desire to own one. Just my opinion and all.
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>>28720261
I'm actually glad there's a good gap between my order and it's arrival. It's the only way I can afford to have a good amount of ammo on hand for it.
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>>28726273
>http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/01/19/shot-2016-hmg-sturmgewehr-arrived/

>"The guns displayed at the show were obviously very early prototype guns (they were completed only just in time for the show), and displayed some general roughness and want for polish – however, this is entirely excusable given the deadline of the SHOT Show and the ambitiousness of the project."

Read.
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>>28717226
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>>28717226
I want one in .308 that takes g3 mags.

So it can compete with the hk91 ptr market
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>>28717432
You seem price-minded, so I'm so confused why you don't get it in 5.56 or even .300blk. 5.56 would be significantly cheaper to get mags for and bretty cheap prices, .300blk is getting there and has the same magazine options. You're gonna be bleeding money for those mags and I predict 7.62 is probably gonna normalize to 5.56 prices, even for steel.
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>>28719882

Chill out there, Hans.

You have literal roaming bands of rape monkeys. It needs to be brought up, like how Indians just shit where they walk and shake it out of their pantlegs as they continue merrily on.

And I don't know what kind of basic you run where the recruits have time to talk back to their Training Instructor...

Go
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>people cry that it is not 1:1 repro
>they literally want this
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>>28717325
Nazis don't imply that jews are subhuman in the same way that blacks are. They view them as manipulative and subversive, not as stupid inferior apes.
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>>28727065
Well yes, making a repro that's internally different from the original kind of defeats the whole purpose of making a repro.
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>>28727065
>German engineering
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>>28727317
>HANS MEIN KOMERFRADERBANGANATOR
>JA FRANZ HERR GROBBELGREPPENFRABENAR?
>ZE CLOCKS, ZE MAKE MY KOMMONKRABBLERABNLEGOBBEL GO BLABBINFLABBINGROBELFLUEG!
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>>28717226
>ITT butthurt autists claim that the gun is not a *true repro

Meanwhile
>uses STG gas system,
>Uses improved STG trunion design
>uses similar steel stampings for construction
>Uses trigger group shell that is the same dimensions as originals, While the SSD ones were different
>can use original wood furniture
>Bolt and piston more like MK42B... which was in the STG family tree
>muh tilting bolt
>uses the same sights
>uses the same stacking swivels
>many of the external and internal parts will be interchangeable

HUUR...NOT ORIGONAL WOULD NOT BANG

Also shitting on a company that has resurrected a timeless design with an affordable price to the marketplace and is not just regurgitating yet another AR15, AK, or extruded aluminium dressed up AR18

Stay Pleb komandos... stay Pleb
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I kinda want to see if it could be chambered 9mm and use an ar-15 magwell adapter for MAC mags.
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>>28727971
why would you want that?
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Besides the magazine how California legal is this.
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>>28717226
>Tfw it's probably going to be banned in Canada
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>>28728321
>implying it will ever even get classified
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>>28717226

I really want one but my only complaint would be to use darker wood and make the metal finish look less matte and more like the original
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>>28727971
>i want to suck a lot of BBC and ingest aids
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>>28728284
Eleven
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>>28728362
You're comparing the current looks of actual old-as-fuck STGs with a brand new ones.

Stain the wood yourself if you want it to look old, rough the gun up with use if you want it to shine more.

This is simultaneously the most common and least thought out complaint I've heard.
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>>28717365
Steel wool some of the high spots. Or use vinegar to French grey the whole damn thing.
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>>28717280

I'm with this anon. Its not a stg, it just looks like one on the outside.

Its not a repro if they don't reproduce it in entirety. Pic related a reproduction m249
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>>28728442
>I'm fucking stupid
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>>28718470
>Dat clean innocent rifle just begging to be dirtied up...
>This is a problem, how?
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>>28728478
>I'm fucking stupid

We can see that anon.
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>>28728442
Just keep using your go to wasr with nc star red dot
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>>28728381
Real helpful
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>>28717226
for the price tag I would honestly rather get something else. MSRP is $1800, for that I can get a SCAR at my local shop, or I can SBR a CZ EVO for about $1100 and spend the other $700 on mags, a reloading setup, and a new chest rig for it (cuz fuck it why not)
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>>28727615
This
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>>28728521
Lewd
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>>28728776

Dude, this isn't supposed to compete with brand new weapons. It's supposed to be a fun gun for people with an appreciation for old firearms.
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>>28728776
Cool story man. You should buy any of those when you get your money right. Meanwhile......I'll have this because I want one.
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>>28728412
Anybody know of any "how to" guides for this? I have a Mosin with nice wear and patina to it, but the bayonet I bought for it had been sitting in cosmoline since the war.
I know it's dumb, but it bothers me that they don't match. All my other rifles have bayonets of similar wear.
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>>28717226
> Watching that video
> Dick is already diamonds
> Notice the QT Redhead in the background
> Dick becomes so hard it warps time and space around it
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>>28729309
>duct tape bayonet to pole
>stab tires
>stab bags of dirt
>stab everything you can
It now matches
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>>28729353
I have been heavily considering this.
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>>28728442
You're an idiot.
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>>28727065
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Is this a must have for all those only ironically Wehrmact boos?
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>>28728284
They're going to be making a cali legal version with a bullet button.
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>>28717226
>scary assault rifle
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Since this is coming out in 2 popular AR rounds
Do they make ARs in 8mm Kurz?
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>>28730804

Maybe some guy did a one-off, but no production AFAIK.

.300 BLK is almost identical in performance...
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>>28730804
It would only be fair. HMG would be guilt of oppression and cultural oappropriation if they didn't.
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It looks pretty cool desu senpai
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>>28726910

They have those, they're called FN FALs.

The FAL uses a different gas system, but the same tilting bolt.
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>>28719981
Very nice. I graduate this semester so I really hope they are still selling them when I start working.
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>>28728442
>Not a true stg
see >>28727615
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>>28730804
Case head size would be the issue, the bolt would have to be AR-10 sized. Perhaps some kind of special snowflake AR15 upper that takes 7.62x39 using AR10 sized bolt head, like a hypothetical CMMG mutant upper that fits onto AR15 lowers, using HMG's 8mm Kurz magazines.

Speaking of the CMMG, I have thought of simply getting a custom made 8mm Kurz AR barrel to fit the Mutant, and running 8mm Kurz out of AK magazines.

The Pakistanis adapted their AKs to fire 8mm Kurz by nigger rechambering the barrel. An AK build with a proper 8x33 barrel, perhaps using the thicker profile RPK barrel to compensate for the bigger bore, would be the easiest route to obtain a non STG-44 gun firing 8mm Kurz.
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