>>28712856 >Maybe he didn't want to inform his men What? Were only the officers given the order or something? I thought it was just instantly activated in all of them. Wouldn't make sense if only some of them had it, as there would obviously be insubordination.
>>28712870 These two (>>28712856>>28712882) both have it right; Order 66 was a preprogrammed command enforced by implanted microchips in the brains of the clone troopers, in the case of the guy in the webm his chip activated early.
>>28712673 ofcourse, lots of times, mostly for stupid shit though that you wouldn't really get in trouble for. Sometimes though I'd skip maintenance gear on expensive equipment, but whatever shit was tedious bullshit pain in the ass so whatever.
In the Clone wars TV show, it was revealed that the reason clones were able to comply with order 66 was because of an inhibitor chip placed in the brains of clones at an early stage of development. When this inhibitor chip rotted, it caused the clone to go into a trance and want to kill their Commanders, their Jedi. This Clone, Tup, somehow had his inhibitor chip malfunction and started before Order 66 was given. This was a really good story arc in the Clone Wars. Probably my favorite.
The messed up thing is the Jedi knew about Order 66. The clone army had a lot of preprogrammed orders ingrained into them in case of contingency including ones to remove the chancellor by lethal force if necessary, or to carry out mass executions on civilian populations.
>Be me >serving as Security Forces in foreign country >let's just say Western Europe >nice peaceful place >3 months to separation >E-4 zero fucks >Local authorities have majority of authority and jurisdiction >New squadron commander >16 years and he can't make Major >thinks this place is Iraq >The locals are just light skinned Hajis >Orders searches of local national quarters >Negative Captain >Orders all vehicles stopped, drivers held at gunpoint and vehicles searched >Negative Captain >Local nationals coming through ECP are to be detained if they can't speak English >Negative Captain >Orders us to detain Local Police if they try to intervene in our crimes >Negative Captain >Wants us to open fire on medical helicopter from our own base >THE FUCK?? actually goes over the radio
>last week before I left he confronted me about my behavior >Cap, over 200 people will testify you're a psychotic moron. I have a loaded gun. (paraphrasing) >I depart and separate >1 month later, he's deported from that country and barred from returning >Got fucked up by an Air Marshall on his way back, still don't have the full story on that part. >BCD >now works as a "motivational speaker" >MFW
When given an order that is illegal in nature, you don't have to follow it. Most people fuck up by being barrack lawyers and assume a legal order is illegal. Graduating Law School before enlisting made things so much more fun.
>>28713312 >Abusing NyQuil >Using a SNCO's wifi account to torrent 78gigs of porn. >Keeping bottles of estrogen blockers and dbol in full view in bedspace shelves. >Calling a Singaporean CPT 'a lying little monkey'. >Smoking a cigar while watching a group of Slovaks washing machine an afghan. Good times.
>>28714104 Not who you're replying to but our detachment commander was officially banned from issuing orders to anyone below SNCO rank after our deployment.
>Be me a few years ago >SWO, Royal Navy >Spot ship >Obvious drug runner setup, unmarked, good intel recently indicates drug transportation in that area operated by these boats >Engage >Get go-ahead >Just prior to engaging get ordered to stop, apparently yanks have claim on the ship >Hmm- time to become Nelson except be deaf instead of blind >Engage, detain drug runners, captain is a known Somalian pirate >Big bust, hot fucking water >Dreams of Admiral now essentially in the shitter
When you get to a level where you're in charge of people, like e5 plus you will constantly find yourself meeting with your superiors, getting a plan that sucks dick then saying, "Yes, of course sir/maam/chode right away." then going to your guys and doing something close enough to the orders to get the job done, but overall execution improved of the original plan. God help you if they find out your deviations from their "superior" planning abilities.
You will constantly disobey orders eventually, simply because the way these people pass the shit down is indicative of them having no actual knowledge of what you're actually doing these days since it has been so long (usually) or they have never done whatever they want you to do.
>be stationed in Germany >be working with this dumbass E-5 >only got promoted because he cried to EO after his new supervisor didn't put in a denial of promotion counselling >at one point after I offered a suggestion tells me "you will speak only when spoken to" >go off on him and his power trip in front of 2 other E-4s then tell him to go fuck himself when he told me to drop >he whines to the platoon sergeant, I report what happened to the MSG(also my direct supervisor) >got a counselling from him saying I should have handled that better >he gets reassigned 2 weeks later >a month later I get word to pull phone records because he was coming into the office at 2 in the morning to call someone in Miami
>>28715074 E-5 was near impossible to get. 10-15% chance. Granted I never studied. But I guess I was in the perfect middle ground, wasn't e-5 so didn't get much responsibility, but didn't get shit jobs like the new guys lol.
>>28715860 For the Army it all depends on your MOS. Some get promoted like it's nothing(see some MI jobs with 35 point cutoff scores) while others can't get promoted no matter what they do(my cutoff score was 798 for 4 years).
>>28715006 This. All this. When your Div-O is a fuckwit reservist equal opportunity ESL case, you do what you have to do to a) get the job done (so you don't get masted for not doing the job) and b) not get masted for disobeying orders.
>>28713302 for lack of a nail the shoe was lost for lack of a shoe the horse was lost for lack of a horse the message was lost for lack of a message the battel was lost for the battle was lost the war went on for lack of a nail the war was lost Cascade effects.
>hey anon, run this paperwork down to the motorpool >look at the 5 privates sitting around >'just have them do it" >nah it's important I need you to do it >mfw >take paperwork, shred it, disappear for 2 hours or so
they're just going to lose it and ask for it again in a week anyways
>Be armorer >Weapons are going through services. We're already cutting it close to do annual since we're doing back to back to back field training. >Get the usual handful of deadlines, failed barrel straightness, missing parts, etc. >PLT armorers gotta shuffle shit around, reassign new, working shit >XO comes in waving his dick around saying to just let them draw out their non-FMC shit >Sir are you fucking retarded? Deadlined weapons dont leave the arms room. And you want to pull this shit when we just had a 240L blow out its lower reciever, dislocating the gunner's shoulder? It's a safety hazard sir. >Get into a shouting match with the XO. >In the end, XO gets moved to HHC and replaced by my old PL. >Despite having to not take holiday leave so we can finish annual services, everything is all smiles now.
>>28712673 I have and still do all the time. But I pick my battles. I usually offer an alternative before outright saying "Im not doing that,sir." >Be NCOIC >1SG tells me to take my guys on a run >we are in the field, no one brought PT gear, so he wants us to run in boots. >no showers either >Its cold and sleeting >Suggest a ruck march in gortex instead >Has to be a run. >End up telling him "I am not having my guys do that." >his knife hand is in my face as CSM walks in >CSM doesnt bat an eye, just tells my 1SG he is cancelling training for safety reasons. >The sleet had fozen on the ground turning everything to ice I was prepared to take this issue to the BC and CSM if I couldnt make the 1SG see it my way. 1SG was a good guy, he just had a fucked up idea in his head thatday.
>>28719731 Remember the black guy from the previews? He's a storm trooper who pussies out after his first fight and helps the rebel-sorry, the Resistance, so he can get away, and that guy is one of his old squadmates. He runs into him later and, in the middle of battle, tosses his shield and blaster, screams TRAITOR! at him, and proceeds to kick his ass with a stun baton(the one pictured) while the black guy is trying to find him off with a lightsaber.
> get a new E-5 > he replaces my old awesome NCO > things are ok for the 1st month then SGT becomes a power tripping asshole > forces me to do push ups when ever he walks into a room > forces me to do flutter kicks at the motorpool > forces me to low crawl through mud holes during PT > has me iron mike from one side of the barracks to the other for no reason > when he's on CQ duty he fucks with me all day all hours of the night. > get a knock at my door at 12 at night > SGT wanted to see if I was wake > he continues for 2 hours coming back every 15 minutes > I sneak out of the barracks and sleep in my truck > he does this several times > He searched my name online to see what dirt he could blackmail me with > talked about everything from past traffic tickets to my sister's wedding > when my grandfather died and I took leave to go to his funeral he tried denying it saying I was trying to get out of a field exercise > this constant abuse continues for 6 months > other SGT's and soldiers start to notice > 'Jesus SGT what did SPC Anon do this time?" > I confront him about how he treats me and about how it needs to stop > he says he is only doing it because it's fun > I talk to my awesome NCO, I talk to 1SG, I talk to CO. > they say they will handle it > harassment continues, now even worse than before > realize one day I am going to snap and frag his bitch ass
>>28720861 > day came when I finally snapped > SGT is in the dayroom showing off pictures of my sister in a bikini > mentions when he goes on leave he is going to fuck her dead > goes into great detail about all the sexual acts he is going to perform > SGT is right next to an open window > I can hear my mind literally break > all bets are off > say "I am going to fucking kill you!" > I grab him and push him out the open he was sitting under and out of the barracks > turns out all the corrective training the SGT made me strong as hell > I tried to jump out the very same window screaming "YOU FUCKING DIE TODAY!" > 3 of my budies hold me down preventing me from jumping out the same window to finish the job > I am told to sit in an empty office under guard while the other NCO's and officers figure out how to handle this > they all know the SGT is an abusive piece of shit > SGT spends the day writing an Article 15 for assaulting an NCO > when I am sent to talk with the CO and Top SGT has an ear to ear smile like I fucked up big time > like this was the end to the perfect plan to make me go insane so he could chapter me out > it makes it to 1SG desk before Top takes the report and rips it up into pieces in front of the SGT > " SPC Anon is the nicest most hardest working soldier we got in the company and you habitually fucked with him!" > "And he took that abuse with a smile on his face until he snapped." > "Oh yeah, there will be an article 15, but it ain't for SPC Anon!"
> SGT is put on extra duty > he swears revenge at me > > SGT is transferred away to the other side of the base > never see him again
And if he wants to find me I will finish the job. People like him are poison and made me hate a great unit with great people. So the SGT social experiment worked. I am no longer the kind and hard working soldier I was. From then on I because a bitter asshole because I didn't want to be taken advantage of again.
>>28721071 CO doesn't do anything then make sure you have documentation of what all has happened and what you've done(dates and names of individuals involved) and take it to battalion, and if that doesn't work then keep going up the chain, but make sure you have documentation and you give each level a chance to resolve things before going on up the chain.
Take it from someone who spent 3 years at brigade, if someone takes the time to go through their chain of command and has documentation to show that they've gone through the appropriate channels, a full bird and his CSM will have your entire chain in his office demanding to know why this soldier has had to go all the way to him to get a resolution on a problem NCO.
>be lcpl in muhreens on loan to the MPs to help guard the gate >range day awwwww yissssss that means no gate duty plus shooting beneli >pisses rain, range canceled >"all 12 of you junior Marines, suit up. Your gonna go help the other platoon watch the gate" >wtf.jpeg totally got fucked >get to gate, there's already like 7 people there. >Guy in charge is a little bit up tight, whole group seems to have an air of being really serious, completely different from my group which is a lot more "family like" >guy in charge says absolutely nobody is allowed to just hang out in the guard house (except him monitoring the phone and log book)we must all be outside watching the gate the entire shift >there's like 19 Marines out there guarding 2 open lanes since it's dead as shit >guy says out loud "why are we all out here again?" >reply without thinking "I dunno, the guy in charge is probably a boot or something" >Corporal from other platoon hears me and starts ripping my ass about being in subordinate and disrespecting an NCO >tells me to go inside and repeat what I said to the dude in charge, or he will >Well fuck, might as well sack up > go inside and tell the guy I called him a boot behind his back >GOES BALLISTIC >starts screaming asking about how he been on a deployment and asks me how many I have. >I know it won't help my case at all so I say zero >asks me how many countries I've been to >like 11 I think >"in uniform, genius!" >like 9 then >makes me police call the parking lot, sweep rocks, clean toilet etc etc >get back and my own NCOs fuck me harder, essay and class presentation on article 91 >stand at parade rest in cold ass wind and rain while Corporal blasts me about embarrassing him to the other platoon >threatened with njp, loss of rank etc etc
At the end of the day I don't really blame that guy though I mean if some random junior marine was talking shit about my leadership within minutes of meeting me behind my back id probably lose my mind too.
>>28720831 Bull fucking shit! Petit carried, didn't carry in the house. And he never had a chance to save the women. Whoever made that was some fucking retarded basement dwelling beta neckbeard who just saw a gruesome murder and decided to try to get his fat sweaty beta buddies to like his post on FB.
>>28720861 >>28721037 You Sir are, or at least were, a very patient and tolerant man. I lost my shit when a guy I worked with set his desktop background to a picture of my mother and talked about his plans to fuck her. That was all the provocation I needed. You... You deserve a fucking medal for not killing that man. (even if we would all have been better off without him)
>>28721586 every fiber of my being wanted to but I needed witnesses. I needed people on my side watching the abuse.
>>28722035 This was a brand new picture too and he just snagged it off of facebook. Had my fellow soldier's not stopped me I was going to go down and curb stomp him and leave him for dead. I was ready to deposit 6 months of abuse of my body onto his. Chances are I might have killed him with my bare hands.
>>28714682 It's funny because the Jedi should have figured it out at this point. The only reason they didn't is because the Star Wars extended universe and original story don't give a shit about the story.
>>28723792 The series was cut early, I think they had another 2 1/2 seasons planned before disney cancelled it. Likely would have included more about this arc considering obi wan/anakin find out that dooku played a part in the creation of the clones in season 6
Order 66 makes no fucking sense >ep 4 >after jedi mind tricking their way into Mos Eisley >Luke get's in a tussle with some local ruffians >Old Ben says fuck that, whips out his lightsaber and slices the dudes arm off >the crowded bar is awestruck
And here's where order 66 falls apart >the two proceed to make a deal with a young rouge with a ship NOT >Ohhh shit Luke, we need to bounce because Jedi are illegal and I just got witnessed by a room full of people and theirs a bounty on Jedi. Ohh yah, and I can sense Boba fett nearby, and he's made a killing on Jedi bounties.
>>28727277 Wrong. Take ur hand, put all your fingers together. Looks like a knife. Now put it vertical. That's a knife hand, it's something higher enlisted do to lower enlisted that get in trouble when they scolding them.
>>28731048 or >1week in new battalion >be fucking useless since the guy im supposed to replace is still there >Start the day and go to my superior >"just ask where you can help break is at 1200 come back for new orders at 1500" >sleep 3 more hours They still dont know who the fuck i am and that is 3 months now
>lose sattellite link because antenna goes out >probably when you're in your rack >shit climbs the whole chain of command before you wake up >tfw you're tied naked to a buoy by the bridge staff and heaved overboard
>>28721037 WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THE NCOs in your unit? I had a guy like that as a peer when I was a SGT. He and I constantly yelled at each other because he wanted to play fuck fuck games with Soldiers for no reason. It finallycame down to me telling him I was going to kick his ass in front of the CO and the CO saying "I didnt see shit."
Anyway more fuckery for .>>28720831 In Iraq as a SPC >Fuckwad SSG tells me to go touch a capicitor thats been charging all day (easiest way to explain it withiut tech jargon) >its next to the wire >literal C-wire perimeter >He wants me to shine a flashlight on it before I touch it >...in Iraq >Get out there look around >Get this feeling of total panic like Imma die >Realize if I touch the capacitor I will die >Go back into my hootch start flipping my shit >tell my NCO Im not doing that shit >Random Infantry guy shows up panting >He explains he thought I was a bad guy and was gonna shoot me. >I tell that SSG to stay the fuck away from me Later >Same motherfucker fucks up and nearly drops a 1500lbs antenna on me >I tell him I will kill him if he doesnt stay the fuck away from me. >He does. Back at Bragg my buddy tells the 1SG about it. The SSG gets put in a back office called "where careers go to die"
>>28735398 They should be looked into, but not in terms of a civilian assault case. It should be seen as something where the cause needs to be determined, such as this case where the anon was being tormented by an asshole superior.
>>28735762 Anon, I'm mostly agreeing. I'm saying that it should be looked into, but to determine the underlying cause. In this case I'd suggest it shouldn't be investigated to see if anon beat his superior, but why he did it and if the underlying cause is something that needs to be addressed.
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