Mel Gibson's new film about Okinawa is set to come out this year. Are you excited, /k/?
I hope it's as historically accurate as Braveheart and The Patriot.
It's completely understandable and expected. All of the men left who actually fought and lived through WWII are in their '90s now and Hollywood can start spinning history now unopposed. Our great grandchildren will grow up knowing that WWII was about spreading American imperialism and that we tortured innocent civilians and used overwhelming force to crush civilian populations.
The Pacific was brilliant. Hanks and Spielberg know how to make good, realistic, and historically-accurate war movies. Band of Brothers is god-tier (also Spielberg).
less-known movie? Letters from Iwo Jima. Made by Clint Eastwood. Told from the Japanese perspective, with japanese actors, spoken in japanese. Beautiful movie, historically accurate.
IT WAS TO KEEP THE SOUTH FROM SECEDING YOU FUCKING RETARDS FUCKING PUBLIC SCHOOLS
So? Even if the EP never happened, it still started because of slavery.
Economics in relation to slavery.
An economic system based on slavery as its most widely used form of labor.
Someone has to pick that cotton. And get whipped.
It was to keep the south from succeeding, for the reason of slavery, you autistic dipshit.
Contemporary politics are shit and this is proof. Our "liberals" are pro-government and our "conservatives" are faux-libertarians who defend economic liberty and a plantation/slave economy in the same breath.
I know libertarians love using the American Civil War as a safe conflict where they can practice their disgusting form of historical revisionism, but I'm fucking sick and tired of it.
What these guys said
Nobody gave a fuck about the blacks, they were just a means to an end as always. Just look at how they are now.
>calling anyone else retarded
inb4 BUT I'M RED PILLLEEEEDDDD
No, you're just an edgy contrarian faglord who uses extremist politics in an attempt to feel better about your worthless piece of shit life. Kill yourself.
>I hope it's as historically accurate as
"We Were Solders" was based, so STFU.
>Pork Chop Hill
so 'memeplace terrain' is going to be a thing going forward?
Clint Eastwood already did this. Mel could have made the viking movie instead which he has talked about for a long time.
Since he made Apocalypto and used actors that didn't speak english, it looked historically accurate etc. I had hoped for a viking movie with the same authenticity.
There's probably a reason the men that took these hills gave them names like that.
I mean both sides kinda fucked up. South tried pulling shady shit like 3/5 compromise. South didn't like the north constantly getting in its business. North didn't want the south trouncing around like they controlled the country so they wanted more sanctions. Slavery was just a means to an end, love Lincoln but ep was just a means to an end. It attacked the south where it mattered most, its economy. He realized that after 2 years of war, which is why 1861 the war starts, 1863 ep, which BTW slavery was only abolished in southern states, Lincoln still needed the border states to be neutral. Which is why in 1865 slavery was abolished everywhere. Slavery was just a means to an end, but then people started saying great emancipator, he went with it
It's sad how things like http://youtu.be/RNsbGKqjXcs are not possible today anymore. The use of emotional arguments was already heavily present and the same shutdown tactics of the left have been used ad infinitum with success. Thank god we have trump now.
>>Well I thought The Pacific was good, although that was a mini series and not a movie.....
The next HBO WW2 miniseries will be out in 2017/18. About the The Mighty Eighth and based on 'Masters of the Air''.
Scripts are done as of last month, start filming soon. Budget bigger than Band of Brothers and The Pacific. I have high hopes.
>less-known movie? Letters from Iwo Jima. Made by Clint Eastwood.
> and Hollywood can start spinning history now unopposed.
Actually now that everyone with an emotional investment in WW2 are too old or dead
We can talk about actual history now
Tried telling my Polish grandfather that Poland was threatening Germany with war over Danzig, and he's like "that's a lie"
>less-known movie? Letters from Iwo Jima. Made by Clint Eastwood. Told from the Japanese perspective, with japanese actors, spoken in japanese. Beautiful movie, historically accurate.
Anyone seen 'Battle of Okinawa' (Gekidō no Shōwashi: Okinawa Kessen)? From the 70's but I cant find it online.
>Secede because of an anti-slavery candidate winning the presidency
>Have designs on territorial expansion into the Caribbean, Washington keeps stonewalling them
>California a free state, shit a brick at the possibility of losing power to stonewall abolitionism in Congress
>Northern progressivism threatening the American Aristocracy of the South with their notions of egalitarianism and freedom for everyone
>Industrial economy based on paid laborers a perceived threat to the landed gentry's legally-enforced social stratification, slaves being the lowest rung, and large-scale farming made possible by slave labor
>War starts when illegal combatants fire on, sieze federal installation without provocation
>War of "Northern" Aggression
>Not about slavery
Boy, you need some serious learnin' all 'bout the Civil War
>declare yourself no longer part of a country
>federally owned fort that is now in your 'country' is them invading
People say Pearl Harbor was a surprise attack but establishing a foothold in the country you are invading before it even exists is some meta strategy of the highest level.
I hope they use as many real planes and as much aerial photography as possible, and they don't roll with the fucking bullshit in that demo reel they put together back in 2013
Do you really think a grunt private on either side cared a rats ass about niggers? They only ones who did in the south were the few slave owners with big enough plantations to benefit from slave labor and the only ones in the north were some Quaker ministers. The North had replaced niggers with machines and the south wasn't far behind.
That only became relevant when they finally started bombing the Romanian oil synth plants in the last months of the war. The entire campaign was either devoted to dehousing Germans (Which like London, only made the German will to resist highten) or bomb the factories (which were increasingly being replaced with underground sites.)
Speer himself said that if they concentrated their air power on the synth plants for three to six weeks, the war would be over. Everything leading up to those last months was a farce.
>and they don't roll with the fucking bullshit in that demo reel they put together back in 2013
That was a separate project pitching an independent movie, not related to Masters of the Air
>pretending they did things other than murder civilians
American bombers never intentionally area/carpet bombed with the exception of Berlin.
>For the last ten years we have had numerous and serious causes of complaint against our non-slave-holding confederate States with reference to the subject of African slavery.
Second sentence from the Georgia Articles of Secession
>The people of the State of South Carolina, in Convention assembled, on the 26th day of April, A.D., 1852, declared that the frequent violations of the Constitution of the United States, by the Federal Government, and its encroachments upon the reserved rights of the States, fully justified this State in then withdrawing from the Federal Union; but in deference to the opinions and wishes of the other slaveholding States, she forbore at that time to exercise this right.
First sentence from the South Carolina Articles of Secession
>*and the fire-bombing the entire surface of japan, directly aimed at the highest civilian centers
But we're talking about the Eighth. It essentially took FDR's personal persuasion before US bomber command would entertain the thought of bombing anything other than military targets. They were paranoid about their post-war reputation as the air force becoming its own branch depended on it.
Yeah, they killed a ton of civilians and even allied POWs, it was inevitable, but I'd argue that intent matters.
>U.S. isn't any less guilty of war crimes, we just have very selective textbooks.
Compared to the Japanese? They're not even comparable.
>I hope it's as historically accurate as Braveheart and The Patriot.