>>28688267 That sounds about right. Consider the M1A, which even with a cast receiver is still a $1500 rifle. I imagine if an SKS were produced new, what with the the machined parts and wood stock, it would be at least a $700 to $1000 rifle, depending on whether or not major parts were cast.
>>28688629 no the ar10 is named by AWB, and you cannot make an ar10 receiver out of stamped sheet metal. the goal of this "neo sks" is to make a battle capable rifle that can't be victim to bullshit legislation. loose enough inner tolerances to deal with being homemade, just print out the blueprints, trace on spec'ed sheet metal and form with hydraulic press. higher quality milled receivers from manufacturer, built to accept already market present parts from FALs ARs and AKs, whlie being a battle rifle that doesn't scare liberals. did I mention the hidden bayonet lug and open-bolt full-auto possibility?
>>28688828 guess what, 223 and 556 NATO are there too. It's part of a datasheet listing pressure differences and case dimensions to determine tolerances for a bolt face and extractor that doesn't need super tight exact lockup to safely and reliably function unlike an AR.
>>28688170 >I never see anyone talking about them anymore. Maybe the main age groups on the board buy it less now that the prices have gone up and they're not all over the place and less easy to find each year that goes by? For me personally, the sks was my first rifle I was really proud of. It was the thing that made me decide to keep pursuing slav guns. But it was eventually replaced by a gun that's better for my uses overall. Still, I took it out a couple days ago and plinked my 400 yard steel with it. It's still a great rifle and a lot of fun. And from my experience, 762x39 rifles seem to be as good/accurate as the ammo you run through them. 762x39 is the one cartridge where I feel like I have to be extremely picky about ammo brands.
>>28690994 Just curious how hard would it be to put an AK or RPK or other style detachable box magazine setup onto an SKS? Doable without being retarded expensive? I'd like to think it would make the SKS a far better battle rifle platform
>>28695180 Very hard, if not impossible. Just save yourself the time, expense, and trouble and buy a vz58 then. Since that's essentially what you are going for and it'll be built better than the franken gun you are going for. or like >>28695231 said, get one that already takes those mags
>>28691876 The days when Nagant revolvers were about 50-60 bucks, Enfield's around 150, and shit Wasr's were 300.
When 7.62*39 was 1.50 a box for GT and nugget food was as cheap as the nuggets.
Bye bye good days. I wish I would have bought an sks then, but didn't. I just ordered a chinese one the other night to make up for the pain I feel of missing out. Feels bad paying more, but I've accepted it needs done or my collection is missing something.
>>28695539 It could happen I suppose. I mean, I'd say the gun market has gotten pretty huge since bush left office (and AWB expired) and I guess things have to balance out eventually. I think, legislation aside, the gun community will shrink back to its core members again eventually, losing out the CoD kids and casuals who just jumped on the hype/paranoia train of the Obama years. The good thing is that when it happens, therell be a surplus of weapons around that will be sold off cheap. The bad thing is that our community will lose numbers. The only thing that will keep this hobby alive is bringing in and retaining new members OF ALL WALKS OF LIFE. Personally I'm more concerned about this then super cheap stuff.
That being said, surplus is pretty much done. Big global wars are over, and countries now would rather destroy equipment or re-sell to rebel groups. Only hope is reopening trade with Rus and China since they stack deep and sell cheap.
>>28695231 >>28695273 >>28695379 >>28695532 Just read up on the SKS-D and SKS-M Which do you guys recommend between the two? Also is there one that is less of an ass-pain to swap a stock wih an adjustable cheek pad and side-folder capability? Or would all of the SKS-D & SKS-M pretty much all be chopping wood and bolting a plate with bracket onto it for that?
>>28696134 Either can switch stock but you need to expand the magwell with a dremel and sandpaper to take AK mags. That's what I had to di she I put mine in a yugo stock. The well is thinner for standard sks magazine. I'd go with the D... Well I did... But yeah I live the D. That's also why I carry a dick grip makarov. Can't get enough D.
>>28696618 Lol hopefully I can set aside a few hundred out of each my checks over the next few months and save up $1-2k and secretly buy some AK parts kit and receiver, and a Sig P250C .45, and either an SKS-M/D or a Mauser or Nugget
>>28688170 I went to the local gun store today and they had a norinco with a beat to shit stoc, light surface rust, no bayonet (it had obviously been groud off), and no front sight post marked for $550
All of the cheap DPMS AR's they have are priced at like $1,200 too.
Every once in a while, there will be a deal there, but either it's a good deal or you're being gouged to death at this place.
godDAMN I have been trying to reply all day. finally get to just sit >>28689848 Ares SCR is ar15 spec only so far, no big calibers. I'm glad you brought up the mini-14/30, i wasnt thinking about them at all. I have not looked at that receiver design yet, but its essentially an m14/m1a right? correct me if I'm wrong, but those are a bitch to change barrels.
both of those guns are patented and use proprietary parts, my idea for a new SKS adds the FN FAL recoil buffer, adds a bolt hold open, and uses magwell adapters for AR and AK mags my favorite part is a universal bolt to operate everything between 22 hornet and 454 casull. the bigger stuff like 300WM 500swMag and 7.62x54R would probably be dangerous to fire in a stamped receiver, but a milled one should be able to take it.
the sks receiver has a ton of empty space inside to work with, not to mention it was designed for bigger cartridges to begin with.
Since this is an SKS thread I'll ask. I have a Norinco SKS with a PU mount , however during the move I underwent I've lost the thumb screw and it's not a standard Mosin PU thumb screw. Any idea's where I might find another one? Will post pics here shortly.
>>28691742 >>28691630 Import regulations. Also to buy a gun here in canada you need to have taken a course and applied for and received a license. So it isn't as simple as popping across the border and buying them.
>>28695180 It's absolutely possible to modify a regular SKS to use AK mags, and it'll work, but it's a good bit more involved than just swapping some parts. Basically you have to remove a little bit of material from the receiver where the mag goes so that it can fit, thin down the bottom part of the bolt so that it can pick up cartridges from the AK mags, and then polish up the feedramp. Question is, is this worth it to you? If you want a x39 blaster that'd cheap and takes big mags, WASRs come to mind (they had their outstanding problems fixed in 08' so they're not dogshit now), if you just want an SKS that takes AK mags, that exists.
>>28695515 I always hear people talk about the glory of cheap nuggets and SKSes, but do people ever adjust the cost for inflation?
>>28695728 >>28699747 >HURR WHAT'S ECONOMY Old milsurp was cheap because there was a huge supply and modest demand. As time went, supply got bought and demand grew. It's just the nature of the market.
Also, cheapo guns aren't gone at all. WASR is cheap and not that bad at all these days. Zastava makes Tokarevs and AKs that are cheap and good, Rock Island Armory makes 1911 pistols that are good and cheap.
There's domestic cheap arms too, the Ruger American rifles are relatively cheap, the Ruger P90 series pistols are very good considering how cheap they are, Kahr makes economy models, there are economic clones of the Mossberg and Remington shotguns, if you really want a cheap shotgun there's single-shot ones that rarely break 100 in cost new and can be had for like 70 used. Speaking of used, lots of nice guns can be had for cheap used just because they're dated and nobody cares about them anymore. You used to be able to find the S&W 5906 in the 300 range and those are excellent pistols of high quality.
>>28700924 Shit mang, I kind of want to buy a shitton of SKS's here in syrup land and drive them down to the US, sell them for $225 a pop since I just wan to help out my American brothers and not make a profit.
>>28700982 not in the states. the big non corrosive x39 seller here got it from lugansk cartridge works, and that factory is right in the middle of a warzone so there won't be any more coming from there. i could get tula but it's over 40c/round last time i checked. canadaammo was selling non corrosive for 25c/round
>>28701272 Pic related is the "pins" on my SVT-40 and SKS magazine, literally just two piece of sheet metal you could cut off some small sheers and a plastic block that you could probably snap off with your bare hand. Rifles are fine.
>>28698933 >7.62x54R would probably be dangerous to fire in a stamped receiver Nah. Aside from military machineguns, there's the SVD and then there's Molot Vepr's in that chambering. It's not horribly far from .308 and 7.92mm Mauser, both which has been used in various stamped guns.
>>28698973 You don't have to, you just shoot it. Failing that it has a bayonet lug.
Also, blackbears are gargantuan pussies, you will never get in a fistfight with one, you can just howl and stomp your feet and they'll run in panic. At most they might bluff charge, but aside from the fact that they wont follow through with a real attack, you can scare them off with harsh tone of voice.
Which brings us to brown bears, who will fucking rape you before you can get in any good blows with the stock of any gun, which is why you shoot them instead.
>>28699327 Man that was in a sorry state, good job!
>>28701110 There's still more cheap options. Again, the WASR, but then there's also the C39v2 which is a surprisingly good gun for being from Century There's also the M&P-15 Sport, the Ruger AR-556, etc. There's still good entry-level "assault-gats" that don't cost a fortune.
>>28701272 Typically it's just a pin that blocks the follower from going down past 5 rounds, though I hear all kinds of variations regarding how magazines are plugged. Shotgun tube mags commonly feature a plug of wood or plastic behind the follower, rifle mags either feature a pin (most commonly), or sometimes a follower with an extended bottom. I heard some SKSs had lead poured into the bottom of the mag to block follower from going further than 5 but I have no clue if that's even true.
>>28701400 >I heard some SKSs had lead poured into the bottom of the mag Wouldn't surprise me, some SVT-40 magazines were cut in half and welded together to only hold 5 rounds. Thankfully that practice seems rare.
>>28700850 No threads in the hole on the bayonet lug for a screw. Had a makeshift screw nut combo in there but it looked goofy as fuck so I just took it off. I'd rather have no bayonet then one that did not look right. The bakelite mags I'm half and half on. I may pick some up in the future. Tech sights I've been wanting for awhile now.
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