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What is your "grail" in terms of a firearm that you really want, but may never own, or plan to own someday but couldn't buy in the foreseeable future?

For me, it's a <10,000 serial number Colt Government Model in 99%-100% condition with high polish bluing and fire blue small parts.

Runners up are an original German Sig P210, an HK P7, and of course a full auto AR 15.

>Hard mode: Try to only limit yourselves to guns that you could feasibly buy (i.e, no full auto P90 or Glock 18).
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ACR
fucking richfags
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I wish to own an FNC one day.
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>>28687337
Class III MP5 A3, prettymuch in this config
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Luger in 45ACP. but theres only one as far as i know
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>>28687337
A very early M1903 Springfield. Im not talking like World War One early. Im talking like made in 1905 early. Spike bayonet, The original rear sight (similar to what the M48 has). If it was still in 30-03 that would be fucking great
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>>28687351

They're really not that expensive comparatively speaking to the non-AR 5.56 players and to be honest they're pretty underwhelming.
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>>28687337
>an HK P7
These are not that expensive if you don't mind a non HKI import mark.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=536735543
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>>28687337

The SPAS 11

Can't be more than a few out there and I'm sure they're all in Italy. I have a good sized Franchi collection but it will never feel complete without the 11. There's only even like 5 pictures of it.
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>>28687364
At least a dozen made for the testing. Mags were numbered to the gun and have been recorded as high as 25.
Plenty of .45 Lugers built afterwards as well and still companies building them if you put up the money.
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Mg 42
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>>28687364
Contact Mike Krause in San Metao CA, He makes 45 Lugers. They arent cheap thought
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>>28687404
Should have said, I'm more interested in a P7 M13 with double stack magazine, but I'd settle for a P7 if I found one under $1000.
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Also a 1911, but I most want an early custom 1911, like the guns built by guys like Swenson and Hoag.
Also a S&W Model 57, though that's fairly easily obtainable
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>>28687361
I feel the feel brother
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A pre-war mauser sporter with double set triggers.
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>>28687337
I just want a Webley-Fosbery with a 7.5" target barrel in .455.

Not too much to ask for.
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>>28687337
>What is your "grail" in terms of a firearm that you really want, but may never own, or plan to own someday but couldn't buy in the foreseeable future?

I have two that are unobtanium-tier

Pic related. Any PKM-design machine gun. Even if semi-auto, I would love to hug, hold and fire one.

The second would be an Accuracy International L96 rifle. I think they're sex.
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>>28687337
MP412 Rex

Love me some revolvers. Maybe one day the stars will align, the bans will lift, and the factory will produce it for export.

one day....
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>>28687337
KS23 shotgun

i think i'd actually burn down a chechen school for one and the means to make my own ammo
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>>28687337

Mine is a modern made, double action, break top .357 revolver. No one is ever going to make one so I will probably have to pay a gunsmith to custom make it if I ever want to own one.
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Oh and a Manurhin MR-73.
Fucking love those things, never seen one here in Canada though
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>>28687337
MG-34

A big slice of German engineered sex in 8mm Too Expensive To Shoot
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>>28687500
buddy this guy >>28687496 just posted your holy grail IRL
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>>28687487
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FN F2000

Yeah, I'm serious. It's a stupid, useless gun but I really want one. I'd love it when no one else does.
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Been designing a top break revolver in .357 mag and .44mag. Gonna take a while considering I don't have facilities either
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>>28687408
i thought they only made 2 and one was destroyed during the tests?
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;_;
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>>28687571
My buddy has one. They're... weird, could get used to it though.
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>>28687571
I actually love the FS2000
Too bad the only ones in Canada cost like $3,000+
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>>28687337
an original non reproduction colt SAA in .41lC
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>>28687530

Yes. I would love so much for the REX to become reality. But really the REX wasn't actually produced due to lack of market, and even if it was available to the US, would there still be people to buy it? In the day of high cap polymer striker fired it would take some really good advertising and marketing to make money off of an oddball full size revolver. But on the other hand, the people buy the Rhino. If it ever happens I'll be the first to buy, but I'm not holding my breath.
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>>28687337
No question.
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PKP
>7.62x54r
>It's sex on a bipod
or an M240B
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I want one of these for shits, giggles and nostalgia.
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>>28687337

FG42, I want one really badly
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>>28687530
It was a prototype that never made full scale production becasue the only market interested was the US and that was b&.

Anderson Wheeler makes one but it's almost $10,000 USD and it's a clone of the Webley design and the Webley and Sons Mark VI project was and is DOA apparently.
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This.
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>>28687496
>>28687500
As an owner of a top break revolver, let me just say that they will fail. If not immediately, then eventually.

Top break is sex. However, it's weak sex. That's why all the successful top breaks (Schofield, Webley, etc..) were all low pressure cartridges.

Enjoy having your stirrup warp and eventually break.
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>tfw I will probably never be able to own one of these beauties
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>>28687337
Mine is a fairly unassuming example, I'm not wishing for the world here, but I've always wanted a Colt Model 1908 Pocket Hammerless. The prices are just high enough, and I have so many pistols and carry pistols specifically, that I may never actually get one.
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Fully automatic BAR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSsnb58Hzs0
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krinkov. easy to own once you get the sbr stamp, literally just order from kvar. i'm still working on the 'acquiring funds' part
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a TKB-022PM
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>>28687484
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>>28687702
The solution apparently is either very good materials like >>28687668 or over building like the REX. I feel that the recoil generated is mainly pushed back straight into the frame, not the stirrup.
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>>28687337
RK95
I'm a burger
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>>28687638
The fuck is that monstrosity?
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Ma Deuce
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glock 10

t. california
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>>28687786
Gyrojet

Handheld rocket launcher. Thing.
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>>28687716
Really nigger? Just buy the parts kit on apex...

Unless you specifically want an r4 or some other snowflake contract
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>>28687692

Are you a Canadafag anon?

I'm pretty sure the Americans can get Dragonuvs no problem provided they can find an actual rifle, but I feel the feel provided by the dumbshit AK pattern rifle ban.

Such is life.
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>>28687837
Not everyone has 10,000ish for a single gun, m8.
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>>28687738
Yaes.
Best answer here imo.
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>>28687668
>>28687769
The British had some of the best metallurgy at the time and yet we have consistent reports of full power .45 ACP loads (19k CUP vs the original 13k CUP for .455) both breaking stirrups and bulging barrels.

There's only so much modern metallurgy can do for a design. The MP-412 Rex has not seen enough use to provide feedback for its longevity.

All I know is that my top break Mk.VI is 100 years old this year and I can still dump cylinder of cylinder of .455 Mk.II through it with no worry because it's a very low pressure round.
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>>28687337
Mateba Unica.
What is there to say really?
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>>28687832
I think he means a .308 galil like in the pic
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>>28687832

On apex?
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>>28687837

No, I'm an American, but like >>28687852
said, I don't really have the money for it. Honestly, I'd gladly pay 10k for my dream rifle, since I'm going to be a military fag soon, I won't really be able to spend time with it.
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>>28687873
>bulging barrels
That would indicate a problem with metallurgy, there would be no reason to make a gun that is rated for significantly higher pressure when a consistent but 'weaker' steel is easier to manufacture and cheaper for the only cartage the will fire from it.

A lot has changed in the last 100 years that would make higher pressure rounds possible out of a top break and no one said that a strict adherence to the Webley design is mandatory.
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>>28687418
This. But full auto.
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>>28687702
your waifu a shit
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>>28688104
no guns, pls go.

.455 Webley was selected as the best pistol caliber cartridge in the world in the Thompson-LeGarde trials.

Git gud.
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>>28687886
Qualifies as special snowflake. But either way the only different is a 308 barrel, sligly different handguard hanger, and the wafflemag


>>28687896


http://www.apexgunparts.com/parts-kits/imi-galil-parts-kit-w-new-us-made-barrel-5-56mm-good.html
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>>28687586
Almost bought the 600$ super backordered 10/22 stock for mine just so I could pretend. I feel your feel.
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>>28688133

Huh, thanks.
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>>28687832
Not noticing the mag size, gee anon what caliber do you think that shoots? Speaking loke you know things, gee anon what caliber are those parts kits you're talking about?
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>>28688133
And bolt, and receiver to take 308 mags, and probably a different bullet guide, and mag catch, and gas block, and most likely a different bullet guide
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>>28687337
>original German SIG P210

They're Swiss you fucking faggot holy shit.
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>>28688165
That parts kit is in 556 and not too difficult to build. Almost done with mine, all that's left is finding barrel shims get the head space right, install bullet guide, and drill gas port hole. The barrel they come with is garbage, get an original IMI one if you can track one down. Got mine for $60 on keep shooting
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>>28688133
Riiiight. It's not that easy. There's a reason galil clones mostly come in 5.56 flavor. Its easier to make it x39 or x45 than .308. Now thanks for showing him a source but stop talking like you know shit.
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>>28688206
Thank you so much!
Filthy casuals
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>>28688131
fuck you
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>>28688171
>>28688176

Alright shitstain shitpoaters listen up.

The receiver is the same just with a longer mag well, you can use a normal receiver and open the back up moving the trigger guard with it. But fuck you bought a parts kit without a receiver anyway double fuck CNC warrior sells the .308 one anyway

Gas block is the same, so eat a dick

You can modify the stock 5.56 bolt to .308 but its safer to modify an ak 7.62 bolt. They're interchangeable and the bolt carrier is the same.

Same bullet guide so eat another dick

Mag catch is wider, stock one work its just unreliable and small
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>>28688214
>There's a reason galil clones mostly come in 5.56 flavor.
.308 galils are scarce because the military only used them as sniper platforms, and they had a tendency to shear off the bolts. Thanks for trying no guns reddit shitposter.

But let's do it your way

>there's a reason m16 clones mostly come in 5.56 (end vague off hand comment)
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>>28687337
Any American small arms with provenance to the Battle of Guam (1941 or 1944)
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>>28687337
a 6" colt python.
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Webley in a non-obsolete caliber with an MSRP under $1000.
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this >>28687418 or a solothurn
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Never Ever
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>>28688366
So it's not the same gun, that's what you're saying your saying right? Its not "the only different is a 308 barrel, sligly different handguard hanger, and the wafflemag" as you eloquently stated, you just contradicted yourself by saying the receivers are different. And a 7.62x39 bolt would have to be opened up for the 308 case, its not the safest to do but definitely doable. Lastly a 5.56 bullet guide is dimensionally different than a .308. You don't want to half ass a gun build. Now pop a xanax and chill, I wasn't being a dick in was saying it wasn't as easy as you made it out to be
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>>28687500
ta da
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>>28688686
Fuck...
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>>28688667
The parts kit doesn't come with a receiver but accepts the same parts, I fail to see how the receiver is a point. I did forget the bolt, but an ak bolt is fine and cheap to modify. And no... The .308 and 5.56 use the same bullet guide.
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>>28688709
It's 10,000. Drinking helps with the pain.
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>>28687364
they are being made, but why the fuck would you want one for anything other than the "only one made!!!!"-factor?
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VSK-94

Man the Russians make some nice guns I would love to operate with one of these. Or conceal carry it in a backpack as it can be taken down very easily. Too bad i'll never have it :(
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Life is pain.
>KAC LMG keymod
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>All these cool guns you'll never own
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>>28687337
Medusa M37
It makes my dick diamonds.
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>>28688730
I know that the start up fee, manufacturing, and niche market drives up the price (enormously) , but fuck man. That's so much for a revolver I want to use like a workhorse.
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>>28688767
They could endear themselves to the US market by dropping the price by dropping quality- mid teir wooden grips- and a lesser quality finish/bluing, but that will never happen because they are a H&H style firm
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>>28687738
My uncle owns one, 100% serious. He bought it in the early 80's. I've gotten to shoot it a few times. It's as awesome as you would imagine.
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>>28688719
Guess we do things different then, if I'm building a gun I want the parts that were made specifically for that gun. Don't want to modify different parts from other guns. Different schools of thought I guess
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>>28688795
Ooooorrrr a dude getting his mechanical engineering degree can team up with his metallurgical engineering buddy make one and keep cost around $1000-1500 and looks more like the REX top break
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>>28688795
Agreed 100%. It's a damn shame.
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>>28688795
The fact thier Shotshow booth had thier's in a glass case and locked says a lot about what thier market is.
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>>28687337
Miller Precision Arms MPA-300 Guardian with a Nightforce NXS scope
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>>28688686
Oh god I'm gonna cum.
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