Starting up a thread for air rifles and such. Post one if you have one and state your uses with it. Pic related, its a Swiss Tac Arms 1. 177.
I have a very old .177 air pistol (pic related) and a couple of .22 air rifles
I have the crosman air pistol from that national lampoon movie where chevy chase takes the theme park hostage
I also have a crosman pumpmaster 760 I got for my 8th birthday. still kills shit, even after thousands of bbs run through it
Only pic I have on my laptop for some reason. Gamo Black Knight .22, I took the scope off a day or two ago and find I shoot better with the irons
Gamo Whisper Fusion, .177
>cheap plinking and practice with no real limits on where I can do it
>casual shooting with friends for hours
>getting people into guns who otherwise wouldn't be if it went BANG loudly
>teaching my cousins to shoot while keeping it fun since it has enough power to explode water cans with hunting pellets
>taking a bird here and there for the cats
Velocities I'm getting based on pellet weight, energy, and math.
16gr: 724 (heaviest available in .177)
10.5gr: 894 (crossman premier ultra magnum domed)
8gr: 1024 (Predator Polymags)
7.9gr: 1031 (Crosman Destroyer)
7.8gr: 1037 (Gamo Red Fire)
>6.6gr:(light enough to go supersonic)
4.7gr PBA: 1336 (pellet weight used when gamo decided my gun was a 1300fps)
4gr: 1448.49 (lightest pellet I know of in .177)
not saying it couldn't have ever happened, but that's probably made up bs
any particular reason you went for the .177, my dad had a .177 when he was a kid, left it in england when he emigrated, siad it was great fun but knowhere near as hard hitting as the modern .22s
I just got it as my first break barrel Air rifle. It was cheap, and I like 177. for plinking and such. But I've also shot a few squirrels with it. My friend also shot a rabbit with my Tac 1 as well.
>any particular reason you went for the .177
Not really, other than being the most common stuff around here and cheap to shoot. I mainly just wanted a plinker with some speed behind it.
If I'm shooting something big enough or far enough to matter, I'm usually using a shotgun or centerfire rifle. I live out in the country, so there's nothing stopping me from opening the front door and letting loose.
My brother's brother in law uses it to hunt varmint on his new property, I miss it but I'm happy that I know it's being put to good use killing small game.
just ordered a gamo silent cat for plinking while the good outdoor ranges are shut up for the winter
I remember seeing some diy infographics on how to make different pellets like incindiaries out of cured paste made from matchheads or something like that
I was going to get a .22lr suppressor for shooting off my deck in the back but with the wait and cost I'm thinking I might just get an air rifle.
How accurate are these things? And how far can you shoot with one? Looking for info.
>No iron sights
>Implying it can shoot 1200fps
>Eight fucking pounds
>Report could be mistaken for gun shots
>Arbitrary recoil pad
>Automatically engaged on cocking safety
I dun goofed.
I don't know a ton about airguns yet either, but people do use them to take rabbits and squirrels, and they don't exactly just let you walk up to them.
hope that helps a little bit at least.
I'm sure there's some relatively simple math that I'm just too ignorant to know that would solve this
we have the pellet weight, we have velocity, we have the distance and we should be able to figure out air resistance based on surface area and mass/density
but I haven't applied math in a meaningful way in years
my air guns back when I was a kid... didn't see them for almost 10 years and few of the pumps still work after sitting that long unused. might try fixing the ones that I liked if I get bored someday. Would definitely like to fix the blue streak. That bitch is a classic.
I have a .22 air rifle and would love to kill these damn chipmunks that keep tearing up my garden, but I'm unsure about firing one in my backyard. There's no mention of air rifles specifically in my city or state laws, but I'm not certain about the risk of having the law knock on my door.
since it's not a firearm (i.e. burns powder to propel the projectile) it should be of similar restriction to airshit or a slingshot
so long as you kill the fuckers dead, I don't see why not
I fingered one at the shot show.
This manufacturer should be bombed out of existence for the good of all firearm owners around the world.
Lands visibly uneven
It rattles when shaken.
Poor fit between stock and action
And you can hear it leaking.
So don't use the light pellets that will actually go 1200fps.
Use the cheap 10.5gr domed crosman premier pellets at walmart. They barely hit 900fps with my 1300fps gun. They've been really good shooters for me too.
I just bought this Sig Sauer P226 .177 blowback. It's pretty fun but the slide has a bunch of give and wiggles around, the barrel is very loose especially with the slide locked back. And suggestions? Should I return it or is that normal?
Is there an air rifle in .177 or .22 that doesn't require gas, co2 or HPA that is able to kill a human target ?
Would this be a self-defense solution for people stuck in liberal shitholes ? Given that of course, they don't miss.
Recent acquisitions Beeman whatever, and Walther LGU.
these are mine.
Top: Walther LGV Challenger .177, BSA 4-12x50 AO scope with Hawke 1-piece mount.
Bottom: AA S400F Classic .177 with Hawke Sidewinder 6-24x56 30 SF IR scope and Hawke Sports Match mounts.
Using JSB exact 8.44 grain pellets and/or H&N Baracuda Hunter Extreme 9.57 grain.
depends on how quickly you want to kill your target.
Generally, though, the best you can hope for from piston powered rifles is 23 Joules (most countries in EU have the legal limit at 16.3 J, or 12 foot pounds), and that is good enough for taking small game like rabbits or pests, but for bigger targets you need a FAC rifle, and .177 or .22 won't cut it.
I got pic related like a year ago. Don't shoot it as much nowadays but at 5+ pumps it hit pretty hard.
Image I just pulled off of google because I'm lazy but it's the same one.
A few years ago I bought a magnum springer in .177. I've since read about how badly .177 overpenetrates, and I got to witness it firsthand when plinking some bullfrogs at a creek.
>using wadcutters for maximum damage
>see frog's head pop out of water
>Shoot and hit the frog
>the pellet had gone low and straight through the frog's body from the side after going through 3-4 inches of water.
>The frog's intestines are hanging out of a gaping wound about an inch across.
>take out several more frogs, all with extreme overpenetration evident
>one frog even took a pellet through the body lengthwise and the pellet still went completely through .
You should really be using actual expanding hunting pellets if you want less passthrough and more energy transfer. Look into crosman destroyers.
But you're shooting frogs, that's not a lot to go through regardless.
For short range hunting, wadcutters are better for thin skinned stuff because they will instantly begin to dump their energy instead of taking a while to expand. They also give a nice accuracy increase at up to 20 yards.
I've tested destroyers, and the little hollowpoint cup tends to get pulled off very early and the main pointed section will icepick the rest of the way through. Destroyers leave a nasty looking entry, but a very small exit, whereas the wadcutters leave an entry wound similar to the destroyers, and have an exit about the same size as the entry wound.
This goes for both birds and frogs at 25 yards or less , then I switch over to a real hunting pellet, especiallly if I'm going after something that is thicker skinned and require deeper penetration.
You probably have too fast of gun for the destroyers, they do tend to do that from my much faster rifle.
Polymags expand and retain their weight, they leave a pretty big exit on whatever I hit them with.
My .177 pellet gun does shoot in the upper 990-and very low 1000s, so that's probably my issue with destroyers. I've tried the gamo redfires, which are pretty much the poorfag equivalent of the polymag, and they have some pretty insane expansion. I've hit a few birds with a chest shot, and every hit was an almost instant kill with a pretty big exit wound. Headshots with redfires pretty much turn the bird's head into a puff of brain mist. I've not tried the polymags yet because they're pretty expensive,and I'm more of a casual plinker with some occasional hunting and not too serious about the hunting yet .
>I've tried the gamo redfires
I had roughly the same experiences, it practically liquefies the bird's insides and knocks them out cold on impact with a loud THWAP noise.
Polymags are my main hunters, they're more accurate for me. I'd say the red fires are slightly nastier though, only slightly.
The redfires have preformed well, especially with body shots. My only dislike is the redfires aren't that accurate, sufficiently accurate for hunting, but definitely not the best. From the pellets I've been able to recover, the redfires will turn into a little doughnut of lead like the one on the far right in pic related. Removing the tip makes the pellets more or less explode, like the ones in the center of the picture.
hold on to your cocks gentlemen.
2000lb bison shot with the Quackenbush LA .457 Safari gun
badass lewis and clark air rifle.
Damn, I wish I had one of those vintage 760's.
New ones are awful.
I have a crosman 1322 and its pretty good. There are tons of aftermarket parts but they are kind of pricey.
So I've been looking at lower cost options at about ~50 dollars.
So far it seems like all there really is at that price is daisy powerline 80s and crosman 760.
Which of those is preferable as baby's first air rifle?
I've done some research and am leaning towards the daisy.
Britfag here, so an air rifle is about the only weapon I can legally own. I do have an old Parks rifle company RH93 rifle my grandfather gave to me. Picture is of one I got from the web, Im currently away from home so i cant take a picture of mine.
I need to know this, I looked up reviews but I want people from heres opinion on it. Its £160 for black version or £165 for wooden btw.
Any good? And yes im a britbong
I have an air rifle and I don't understand some people's obsession with blowing up defenseless little critters for no reason other than they are there that moment seems a little fucked up if you ask me
did you consider, perhaps, that feral pigeons are pests? Sometimes referred to as flying rats, they carry all kinds of diseases, and cause a lot of damage to crops, foul up farm animals' food with their excremant, and are a general nuisance.
As long as you are somwhere shooting pigeons is legal, there is good reason to blow them away en masse.
You are in britbongistan, walking in the woods, when you see a grey squirrel. What do you do?
If you said "kill it", well done for being a responsible human.
If you said something other than "kill it", you are a sick fuck and you disgust me.
It was the first kill with the rifle. Hundreds of its friends and other assorted woodland critters have fallen to its .177 780fps fury.
The land I shoot on is conditional upon me removing pests as I find them. This includes pigeons and rats.
Is pest control the reason why I shoot? No. I enjoy shooting and eating stuff like wood pigeon, pheasant and rabbit. It also gets me out into the countryside and away from the city/wife/baby for a few hours. So yes, I also do it for fun.