>>28668885 Last I heard, the cost of canceling one in breech of contract and all that legal junk would have been greater than the cost of buying one, so they opted for the "fuck it, we're stuck paying for both".
Not sure if that's still the same now, but it was the last i heard.
>>28668949 They were originally planning on immediately mothballing the second for exactly that reason.
The SDSR went balls deep on maintaining WAR fighting capability, not just COIN operations, so decided it was worth keeping them both in an operational state, as well as expanding or maintaining almost every branch.
>>28668885 It is indeed. Much better than what they did have planned.
Also it's is a extremely powerful tool to control trade. You see, the fact that mercantile ships can travel safely is all because of the Carrier Battle Groups protection. In the same way, the CBGs could easily interdict a enormous area and/or sink such vessels when certain nations get uppity and start blabbering about "self determination" or such shit
Y'all always manage to turn this into a US vs UK type deal. The UK does not have the economic capability to field a navy the size of the US's. It's that simple, we don't have enough people on our island to sustain that type of cost.
I for one like the fact that it's another member of the Anglo-sphere that took up our role, much better than the alternatives.
>>28669315 >>28668416 This makes me wish we were Imperialistic and colonized the entire oceans and every country's coastline or sparsely populated frontier with our might from our new Oceanic Undersea/floating empire of billions of Nova Americans.
>>28669471 In some ways you have, militarily y'all definitely have. The British empire was founded more on trade and our strong economy than military strength though. We had one of the smallest Armys in Europe at the height of the empire.
But y'all are never gonna be able to march around in red coats fucking up African tribes though. So we're always gonna have that.
>>28669505 >But y'all are never gonna be able to march around in red coats fucking up African tribes though. We get to spot goat herders from 3 miles in the sky with thermal optics, and then watch them explode into a thousand little pieces.
>>28669505 The US has the largest economy in the world and shapes the culture of every nation on earth except for North Korea. All post 1776 democracies base their governments off the US's model. I mean I like fucking up Africans as much as the next guy but you have to admit that this transcends what the British Empire had
>>28669625 When you say that all post 1776 democracies base their governments off the US model, what exactly do you mean? Your constitution? Or actual process of government. Your constitution was based in large parts off British Law, the Magna Carta and our Bill of rights.
It's hard to grasp just how much the British Empire influenced the world as it's gone. I'm not gonna come out and say that it was more powerful than the US, that would be a stupid claim. What we did have was direct control over 1/4 of the Earth's landmass and 1/5 of it's people. That's something nobody will ever have again. The mechanisms/infrastructure that we laid down is still visible today in a lot of places including the US its self. How much of the US constitution was put in place directly as a result of Britain?
Our language for example is so widely used not only because of the US (although that is a large part today) but because of how influential Britain was. I'm fairly confident that if WW1 and/or WW2 never happened Britain would have a similar influence on the world today as the US does.
To be fair, OP's pic is not up to date, and does not include all helicopter carriers and all carriers under construction. For instance, the UK has 1 helicopter carrier and 2 aircraft carriers under construction.
>>28670794 >Black guy See there's your answer. Countries like Norway, Switzerland and a bunch of other ones can feel comfy about being fairly hegemonic, far richer and socially stable, while still having pretty nice militaries relative to their population. Being irrelevant on a global scale has a surprising amount of perks. Then again, I'd still feel good about murica if I was a burger.
>>28670887 From what I have been reading about the migrant crisis in Europe, the whole hegemonic thing won't last. And the more show up, the more it will burden your economies. Y'all need the second amendment and fast
>>28669084 Because the only reason the Somalis and Thai and Nip pirates aren't being paid off with thousands of tons of oil and gold by passing merchant vessels is because 'Merica is the biggest, baddest motherfucker in the room and will fucking rekt your ass with everything from complete economic and political subversion to outright atomic hellfire.
>>28669414 >This makes me wish we were Imperialistic and colonized the entire oceans and every country's coastline or sparsely populated frontier with our might
We are still only in the Republican Era, brother. Only once we have our Caesar and his Rubicon will we truly become great.
>tfw you never see the stars and stripes with all 150 stars >tfw you never you plant that flag on Beijing or Moscow or even just lowly Berlin >tfw when you will never fight in the glorious American Legions against communist rebels on Alpha Centauri Prime
>>28670949 Situation could be better, yeah. However the right wing (and not the cuckservative one, actual nationalist) is on the rise again, even in Sweden the nationalist party has grown from like 3% vote to 26%+ in just a matter of years. People are getting tired of EU and liberal/left wing politics.
Also some countries have ok gun laws, Switzerland, Czech Republic, Sweden, Finland and Norway in particular. Nordic countries don't allow guns for self defence, but if shit hits the fan that matter.
I'm hopeful Europe will start sorting itself out, but it really is uncertain atm.
>>28671153 Varies from country to country, I can only go in-depth about Sweden because I don't know about others. Most gun owners in Sweden live out of cities. The most common usage of guns is hunting (100.000 moose are shot annually) along with a lot of other game. Beyond that, shooting for the fun of it, shooting competitions and the sport Biathlon (cross-country skiing + target shooting) are all fairly popular. If someone was on my property and I shot them, that'd be considered murder. If someone was about to kill me and I ran away, grabbed a gun and shot him, that'd be a murder. If someone attacked me and I just so happened to be holding a gun and shot him, I might get away with if I can justify it as self-defence in the heat of the moment. It's pretty shit, but better than a lot of other European countries. Also we've got no 'bans' on supressors or FA guns, they're just hard to get a license for in the first place. A relative of mine even owns a select fire MP5, but full auto is a lot harder to get as it's hard to justify the necessity of it when most licenses are given for the sake of hunting.
Thing is though, in Sweden people have not really felt a need to defend themselves for many many years, it has been a very safe and well-ordered society, but as we all know that is drastically changing, and so peoples interest in being able to defend themselves will increase. Proof of this I guess is pepper spray sales in Germany which have increased with something like 600% after the migrant crisis.
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