Why don't you low test betas train with live ammunition and do pushup drills like this Real Man™ in the video?
yeah the AR tilt was hilarious, and he looked like a crab that needs to take a shit but has to stop and engage enemies on the way to the shitter
thats what he was doing? i didnt even think of that because i think i can safely say ive never chambered a round with my handgun 2 inches in front of my face. probably because im not operationally operating hard enough.
I think he's checking if the gun is empty after every burst but he's CLEARLY not looking - at 4:35 he does the stupid tilt and then tries to fire anyway to then realize that it's empty
What the fuck is up with every israeli "operator" acting like tryhard retards? That guy doesn't even carry his gun loaded because muh s'ralay carry
I also love how all their drills take place with the guys gun right next to them. With the muzzle in contact with their body. 90% of their move won't work if the guy stands 2m away
Holy shit. A quick video summary:
>>two rounds AFTER LOADING
>>Some homo bro slaps onthe butt nd back to get him amped and erect for the next drill
>>More homobro slaps
He thinks he's a fucking sub-surface missile platform or some shit.
holy shit the comment on that video
>In order to comment, you will need to state your name and professional background(branch/unit/mos/operational experience) or your comment will be deleted. This is a tactigoober-free zone. We're not interested in hearing your thoughts on on immediate entries, diamond formations, carbine and whatever else you've learned from tactical inbreeding...we've all learned what's out there and don't care. We're here to advance the tactical evolution and advocate a safer and more lethal way of killing terrorists...not bicker with close minded followers who don't question tactics and only preach what they were taught.
dafuq. do any actual SF groups refer to themselves as "tier"
Then I push them into the river cause fuck them those fucking rocks
This one actually made me grunt the fucker. You should see the look on the faces of the people below. I yell "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE GET OUT ROCKS REEEEEEEEEEE!!!"
isn't it Israeli military standard to carry on an empty chamber? they train to rack their sidearms as they draw them in one fluid motion. it would make sense that they would follow the same standards when practicing Israeli martial arts and self defense type stuff...I think
In this video the guy explains that it would depend on the situation. If they're just hanging around town with civilians they carry "Israeli style". When they know they're going into a situation, they always have one in the chamber.
Makes sense when you consider the environment they operate in. Ever been to Israel? Soldiers and guns all over, taking public transport, on park benches and just always around people.
Doesn't seem like a good idea to have an inconsistent carry method. If you thought you were unchambered but were chambered you could rack it, no big loss. If you thought you were chambered but weren't you just fucked yourself.
Agreed. Although tactical expert people tend to underestimate everyone's ability to think during situations. All this talk about gross motor skills and training complexity or whatever is greatly overstated. That's what training is for.
Also, what works for the military might not be ideal for ccw. A cop keeping a carbine with an empty chamber is more akin to a nightstand gun than a ccw
It's safer- and that's the whole idea.
As in >>28664041 video (around 21:30 mark), it is the fact that having an empty chamber is safer that having one in. Israelis believe that the chance and risk the you will discharge into your foot in daily life far outweighs the extra 0.2 seconds it'll take you to rake. You must also remember that nothing is craved in stone- soldiers going out on a mission or are in any kind kind of place or situation that might require the to shoot, have a raked bullet nice and dandy.
What are the chances that you'll discharge by mistake in your daily life when going to work or sitting in a cafe? Slim to non. But apply that to a mass population where people are going around with guns anywhere and everywhere such as Israel, and you see that having a gun going off in someone's holster (or back, OC-ing a Tavor or M16 on your back is far more common sight in Israel than CC-ing handguns), hower unlikely it might seem to a single person, is inevitable.
Sure, for an American it sounds foolish, but remember that from their perspective, you're no better than the Delta guy going around base with the safety off, claiming his finger is his safety.
I'm sorry was the photo of the rake too hard on you?
Yes, it's against police instructions/regulations, though not as strictly illegal as a state law.
If you're caught, any policeman (or security guard, which which the law dictates to stand in every public establishment) will instruct you to hand the gun over for them to discharge safely. Though only I only heard of only one case when something like actually ever happened.
Stabbings are against random civilians on the street or against soldiers standing in checkpoints, looking for contraband or illegal aliens (so they don't exactly stand in combat stance and instruct people to undress from afar every time a 17yo girl wants to pass through).
>Stabbings are against random civilians on the street or against soldiers standing in checkpoints, looking for contraband or illegal aliens (so they don't exactly stand in combat stance and instruct people to undress from afar every time a 17yo girl wants to pass through).
Really take things serious don't y' pal?
guns do not 'just go off' no matter how scared you are of them. the safety of the gun relies on the handler, not the location of the rounds.
having a condition 3 firearm is not safer, it is only slower.
and carrying with one in the chamber for a handgun is the only way to carry.
If a soldier cant control his or her weapon enough to not ND in a non stress situation like sitting on a bench than they require remedial training.
Yea, my aunt got stabbed few weeks ago, so I guess I take things more seriously than I should.
Well, again, since it's not as much as a strict law and it's so common that nobody expects others to have a chambered gun and don't even look for- so guys like yours often get away with that.
What were you doing there?
Wow, wtf. Bad enough to do that, but then to think you are a badass and post in on jewtube... Crazy.
When the gun is in use being carried around there is no difference in safety, only speed. And an unloaded gun is just the same as a loaded gun laying around. Stop being afraid of inanimate objects.
man this is actually bomb shit for red dots, tried it out today. It's fucking fantastic for snap shooting
don't knock it til you try it nigga, sometimes these operator fags actually have good techniques. This particular guy has a really shitty and awkward looking footwork method but the jab and seat fast target acquisition method works really well for me.
Maybe we should glean stuff from all sources of input and tailor our training and shooting style to what works for us rather than ignoring entire instructors because we pidgeonhole them as a 'type'
we can learn from anyone