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Why did the US never adopt the FAL??
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Why did the US never adopt the FAL??

Also, could the SCAR series be considered the FAL's successor?
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because the FAL is one letter away from FAIL
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>>28661495
muh made in america
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Because the US had already made a shitload of M14s.

By the time the original M14 production run was no longer adequate, the SCAR existed.

Besides, the AR-10 was always, always, always a better rifle than the FAL.
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Because the people in position to make the decision were nostalgic assholes, and the FAL was literally rigged to fail the cold weather tests because of this.
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>>28661531

And the SCAR will always be better than the AR-10
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>>28661495
This is some bullshit

The FAL was originally going to be made in an intermediate caliber, but some dickhead US brass said that they wanted MUH BIGGUR BULLITS or they wouldn't buy it. So FN scrambled to make the gun take a bigger caliber, and after pushing the design to the limits so it could take 7.62x51, the US said "lol fuck u" and decided to go with the M16 anyways.

WHAT COULD'VE BEEN, LADS

EITHER THE US WITH FALS, OR THE REST OF THE WORLD WITH INTERMEDIATE CALIBER FALS THAT THEY'D IN ALL PROBABILITY STILL BE USING TODAY

EITHER ONE

BUT NOOOOOOOO

I'm so fucking mad
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>>28661510
Fast forward to today. Military has no qualms about using FN firearms
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>>28661495
We could have.

We considered it for adoption under the designation T48, and then decided to go for the M14 and later the M16.
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this is now an FN thread.
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>>28662925
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>>28662939
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>>28661495

Fudds ran military procurement back then. They refused to adopt any rifle with non-wooden furniture and they refused to adopt any caliber less than 0.30 caliber.
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>>28662950
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>>28662961
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>>28662939
squids always gonna have the best looking SCAR's award.
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>>28662970
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>>28661575
Which most of the FN guns made for the US military are made in america.
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>>28661503
Fuck off with this stupid meme

>>28661510
Literally this. We were supposed to use the FAL after NATO adopted the 7.62x51 and initially agreed. Then we turned around and issued the M14
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>>28661495

m14
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>>28662973
Holy shit where do these fags get their fucking money
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>>28662987
>>28662973
Maybe, but I'm an FN fanboy. First Gun I ever bought was an dsa FAL I know it's not actually FN but might as well be. Shot a SCAR 17 a bunch of times and am saving for one. Also got The fnp 9
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>>28663017
This is my wallpaper, I am not ashamed.
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>>28663009
>have good job/career
>have money
>bonus funds for not having a woman and/or kids
?????
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>>28663031
More like:
>Have minimum wage or somewhat above job
>Have no other hobbies, social life, or major expenses
>Have a decent line of credit
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>>28663031
The dude was a low-rate airman... hardly qualifies as a good job.

>>28663009
Probably save it up, or don't spend it on anything else. For example, I make $130k/yr... but I have my son to provide for, and I have other hobbies besides firearms. If I stopped paying for my son, didn't buy fancy clothes, didn't buy gourmet ingredients and kitchenware to cook with, cars, car parts, watches, cigars, and booze... I'd probably be able to buy a SCAR every other week.

Shit, last month I spent $3500 on food. Not to mention $800 on a Shun knife set, and $700 on a Mauviel basic cookware set.
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>>28661572
The world could have a cartridge that had the range and penetration of a full-size rifle cartridge, with the weight and recoil of an intermediate rifle cartridge.
But noooooo, the US Military circa 50s would really rather jack off to their military-industrial complex.
I share that feeling.
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>>28661495
If anything the SCAR is an FNC legacy. The SCAR internals are more based on the fnc than the fal.
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>>28662925

in
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>>28663009
A...Job?
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>>28663009
Shit nigger, I'm on NEETbux and if I save up for a month I can afford those guns.
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Why are FALs so based /k/?
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>>28663690
Government credits returns SOON.
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Is a 3-10x or 2.5-10x scope too much for a scar? I see all those tacticool pics look like they're running 1-6x.

Are there any FFP 1-6x scopes that aren't s&b
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>>28661495
The FAL is fine...

Although SCAR-H variant is consider better.

>>28662960
And this anon is right US wont accept Rifles with wooden furniture.
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>>28663690
FAL is consider Elite tier of /k/

If that's the reason.
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>>28661495
>Why did the US never adopt the FAL??

US was infiltrated by communist who didn't want America using the right arm of the free world.
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>>28663140
>last month I spent $3500 on food
What the fuck dude, did you go out to eat every day at good restaurants? I spend ~$50 a week on food at most.
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>>28663372
Why the fuck would the US buy guns from some small ass country when they can just build and design their own? It's a waste of money for a country so big and powerful to use the design of someone else tbqh
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>>28663853
>tfw I spend <100 a month on food
>tfw jew tier
>tfw make less than 3500 a month
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>>28663869
>tfw leach off my parents for ~$1000 a month
>tfw keep finding ways to eat for cheaper and cheaper
>tfw still order takeout like a dumbass and waste money
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>>28663009
Squid and Alex are both trust fund babies that work in their fathers company.
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>>28661572
>the West could have had .280 FALs
>or shorty FALs in 7.92x33
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>>28661495
>Why did the US never adopt the FAL??
Politics and dick-waving. Went something like this.
>Post WW2
>Com-bloc adopts intermediate cartridge and replaces dog's breakfast of small arms with mostly AKs.
>Euro countries developing own intermediate cartridges.
>.280 Brit looking good.
>USA says FUCK IT .30-06 IS FINE
>But fuckhuge awkward long action.
>OK WE'LL SHRINK IT, HOWD'YA LIKE DAT DERE LIMEY?
>It's not really intermedia...
>THAT'S A WUSSY CALIBER, EVERY SOLDIER MUST BE A RIFLEMAN, WE'RE ADOPTING .308 AND SO ARE YOU BECAUSE NATO STANDARD.
>FAL gets re-designed and anally stretched for the .308 butt-fuck.
>Is this good enough Amerifats?
>FUCK NO DAT DERE IS A WUSSY RIFLE HERE'S A REAL MAN'S GUN MADE BY REAL MURIKKANS
>You just shrunk an M1 and gave it a box magazine.
>FUCK U RIFLE IS FINE, GREATEST BATTLE IMPLEMENT EVER DEVISED.
>It's expensive and doesn't hold zero very we... you know fuck it keep your battle implement we'll just use the FAL.
>[Burgers grumble about it but reluctantly accept since they both at least fire the same cartridge]

>Also, could the SCAR series be considered the FAL's successor?
Yes and no. Mechanically it has little to do with the FAL, it's basically an improved AR-18. It fills the same roles though.
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I would love to get my hands on pic related. That foregrip is just beautiful to me
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>>28663690
Right arm of the free world
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>>28661495
Strong as fuck Colt lobby. It's the same reason why they still use M16 instead of just adopting whatever else there was that wasn't made by Colt.
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Honestly though, hands down one of the best guns I have ever shot, let alone owned. Huge round, no kick. I wish it would have been adopted, because then it would be easy/cheap to get mags.

Pic related, my Argie. Need a true dust cover for her still.
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>>28663029
>I am not ashamed.
>1024x640
>640

you aught to be
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>>28666191
Just put an aimpoint on there
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>>28661556
I should hope that a next gen weapon is better than the previous generation.
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>>28661495
Because Americans are fags that have to build everything themselves, its called American exceptionalism. God forbid the U.S works together with its allies to have mutual weapons programs. Same thing with the .280 british cartridge.
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>>28665385
But Springfield made the m14 (and went bankrupt over it resulting in its name bring sold off later which is what the modern Springfield Armory is.)
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>>28662987
>>28662950

Good god those are badly lit
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>>28663858
Sure, buying a decent rifle for a reasonable price at bulk purchase discount is really a waste of money, compared to paying researchers to rape the M1, re-tooling factories and ending up with a meh firearm that is replaced with a new one only 3 years later, because fuck everything.
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>>28667096
well its for my chrome book. I wish there was a better version.
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>>28667650
Cause it was a damned good design that's why
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>>28668191
>a damned good
>can be deactivated by sneezing on the op-rod
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>>28663950
>Several year later, Nam happened
>US realizes importance if intermediate calibers
>Instead of adopting .280 British, they go with 5.56 varmint peashooter
>NOW YALL HAVE TO USE THIS CALIBER TOO
Literal scumbags
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>>28663853
Yes.

It didn't help that I prepared a feast for my family on New Years.
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>>28668434
And only JUST NOW do they realize that they could probably have something like a .280 British. Like, it'd be cool, and stuff.
Politics ruin everything.
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>>28661556

of fucking course it is. it is the same exact operating method as the ar-10. It better be improved.
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>>28668546
What if they modified the .300 Blackout into a .280 variant
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>>28661548
Fucking cock gobbling ass licking bureaucratic stone age neanderthals.
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>>28663858
Yes it's a total waste of money to use an already developed design. It totally saves money to do the entire R&D process over again to make something do the same thing, but worse
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>>28668568
I hope you meant ergonomics outside the charging handle placement because the both of them are obviously mechanically different
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