Redpill me, /k/. Why shouldn't I add a Kriss Vector to my collection of novelty space guns?
>redpill me /k/
You know where you need to gb2.
Just make sure to have novelty body armor to go with it
You and I both know that in another 30 years, practically every major city's riot units will field a working version of type of shit. And when it happens, most of us will cheer them on because, "Fuck liberty, we get to see real life storm troopers stomping on people's dicks in the street."
In a way, yes, painting a rifle black does make it scarier. For police escalation of force, you are always one level above the populace. The uniform is an extension of that.
Which uniform lets you know that the police officer is a citizen from your community, rather than apart from it? A heavily militarized armor, or a friendly business-like uniform with armor underneath. It's just one more wedge between police forces and the populations they live in.
I'm not voting for sheriffs, police chiefs, or mayors who support it. I'm still holding out for police officers assigned to block duty, a la Tokyo.
I hadn't really looked at it like that, apologies for sperging out on you there, it was uncalled for.
Very good point there, they definitely don't look approachable in that kind of garb.
Huh. A thread with a three letter text in the OP with a thumbnail of a man holding a black gun against a black shirt. Yes, I can see how it's entirely my fault for not recognizing that there's already a thread about whether or not the Vector is a good addition to my collection of novelty space guns.
Its even on the front page.
Gosh, this image really is small, you'd need a magnifying glass to realise its the highly recognisable Vector.
It's "queerer than 9 guys fucking 10 guys", you illiterate southern moron.
Queers has a double meaning in that context, which is the only thing remotely funny about that saying.
Now make like a tree, and get out, Biff Tannon.
Does it do 5mm? My uncle accidentally bought a load of 5mm, he thought it was 10mm, and I was wondering how the fuck he got so much 10mm for so cheap, but it turned out to be 5mm
>My uncle accidentally bought a load of 5mm
>he thought it was 10mm
What, exactly, lead him to think that? Was he buying loose cartridges and couldn't tell that they were half the size that they were supposed to be?
>officers assigned to block duty, a la Tokyo
GET OUT OF YOUR GODDAMN CAR AND WALK AROUND
Also start actually enforcing physical fitness standards and get the fatties/dykes/manlets off the force or at least behind desks.
Saw a cop at the gunstore the other day with 2 fucking rolls of head fat.
That shit ain't right.
>go back to /pol/ is a meme
Let's play spot the newfaggot
While I'm not a fan of the redpill/bluepill shit, it is a fairly accurate description.
That said I agree OP is a faggot, as is anyone who likes that overpriced abortion of a gun
Thread derail commencing, might as well get in on it
d-did the 2nd gen fix the wobble?
I want to get myself something tacticool as fuck when I'll get my first few paychecks as a welder to stand out from my fuddtastic collection and there's not much to choose from here.
I aim to please. Weapons with FDE furniture are just objectively better but black ones trigger the gun grabbers. Sure, a lefty will tell you that they hate all guns but their innate racism will always mean that the black one is more terrifying.
So your uncle is either retarded, or didn't actually know what 10mm was before buying "a load"
You realize 5mm is even smaller than 5.56, which is a .22 caliber bullet, when 10mm is like double aa battery thick
>Chiappa Rhino 60DS .357
>FN PS90 SBR 5.7x28mm
>Kel-Tec KSG 12ga
>Kel-Tec RFB 7.62
>IWI Tavor 9mm w/ Rat Worx ZRX suppressor
Because I am not politically connected, they're all only semi-auto, which sucks, but they all shoot differently and they're fun on the range, which is really the point of it for me. If I just wanted to plink, I could get a 10/22.
Although I might get a 10/22 to put in a CBRP or Aklys ZX-22 shell.
I'd like to add the Desert Tech MDR and Crye Precision Six12 suppressed SBS to the collection once they become available. Not sure that I'm so fond of the RFB that I want to get an RDB, as well, though. I've also been vacillating on the DP-12 but even with the second barrel I'm not sure that it's sufficiently different from the KSG to warrant it.
>Any experience with the American Eagle 40gr FMJ ammo in your PS90?
Tons, and I have literally never had a major issue with anything American Eagle. No failure to feed our misfire and only a handful of failures to eject - but it is Federal's discount line so your mileage may vary. Sometimes you just get a bad batch - I had a box of Fiocchi, once, where about a third of the cartridges were duds.
I will say that the brass on American Eagle is pretty thin. I know that their .357 definitely expands more than I'd like and is consistently difficult to extract. Still, though, they're my go-to brand for range time.
When's the last time you saw 10mm on a shelf anywhere? How'd your asshole feel after you purchased it?
Good to know friendo. A bunch of members on fnforum were shitting all over it and said they only use FN branded ammo so I thought I goofed.
Seems like you have a pretty bitchin collection of space blasters. And I take it your PS90 is chopped to 10.4"?
I'm buying the 10mm as soon as it's out.
>KRISS is right down the road from me
Fags forget about the recoil system apparently, the KRISS is kinda like the AEK right?
Why does fn make the best space guns? P90 and fs2000 are basically what I imagined the future would be when I watched Stargate with my dad. I'm slightly dissapointed it didn't turn out that way.
HEY GUYS COULD YOU LE REDPILL ME ON REDPILLS XDDD WAKE ME UP AM I RIGHT SHEEPLE LMAO
Anyways, your faggotry aside, I really like the idea of Kriss Vector's but I wouldn't call them exactly practical. I mean the whole purpose of the thing is to be controllable in full auto, but if its in semi I can't quite see it mattering too much in a pistol caliber carbine, even in 10mm (which is pretty damn cool). If you've got the expendable income though and want it for a range toy, I mean, totally go for it.
Yeah, fine, except on this gun the sights/scope are mounted on the upper receiver, and the barrel is mounted in the lower. And they shake separately. It's not much of a difference, but if your sights are shaking upwards while your barrel is shaking downwards, you'd better not be aiming at anything smaller or farther than a man-sized target 100yds. away.
If you don't have the paperwork for an sbr you might as well have a glock 21 because you can get a vector pistol (essentially a vector that's semi automatic only, and no stock) and if you are going to use a .45 ACP firearm for home defense you might as well use a 1911 or glock 21, or a rifle since the vector in its pistol configuration is xbox hueg.
Oh do you booboo
don't do it if you aren't going to SBR it and suppress it. I had one with the 16 inch barrel and it was a jam-o-matic. I don't quite understand how, but the shorter barrel is supposedly more reliable. Aslo, the recoil system really does work, and its neat as fuck.
This gun is the perfect example of liberals ruining everything. What I really wanted was a full auto recoilless .45 that was quiet as fuck and was compatible with my glawk mags. What I got was a lawyer-neutered piece of shit that was a neat toy but not really useful and jammed because it wasn't in its intended configuration.
I like the Skorpion, I just don't own one. If it were a little bit more squared off in the front, it would look like a baby bolter. I like CZ products, overall - the CZ-75 is one of my all-time favorite handguns - but it's not a space gun so it's not on the list.
As a matter of fact, I was giving serious thought to putting an Osprey K 45 on it.
Yeah, none of the guns listed >>28640981 are for home defense - although any one would do in a pinch, they're not a part of my home defense or carry plans. It's literally just a collection of sci-fi-looking firearms that I keep because they look sci-fi.
Let's talk more about this.
I wanted to be Ellen Ripley when I grew up.
Things did not work out as I had hoped.
1. The quality isn't that good. It wobbles and shakes badly enough to be seen right away with a naked eye.
2. It offers no advantages over anything I can think of, unless fired in full auto. On semi, it even seems to be inferior to many other popular funs of the same category.
I mad in love with the design, though. The folding stock in older versions made it look even better.
> more terrifying
Is really a thing in the US? People find guns and specific sorts of guns to scare them?
I do remember a year or so ago the IDF Twitter account in English posted a "happy Hanukah" picture with a soldier in a balaclava, holding a small recon drone- and people lost their shit about "scary looking" soldiers and how they should be more considered when posting pictures of drones without warning.
I thought that all the autism drawn to that post was accidental, but if what you say is true... I don't know what to think anymore.
No. I had the "enhanced" version. Friend moved here and needed some cash. So he sold it to me for a G. I wanted to SBR it... nope. Send it to Kriss and they'll either replace the barrel and form 4 it back to you (well, to a dealer local to you). OR, Form 1 it, hacksaw the barrel to the length you want after your stamp is approve, send it it in, the'll remove the barrel and clean it up.
They made both the pistol and carbine warranty void if you did an SBR with it yourself. They also made it so the barrel is removed with proprietary tools so only they can do it. They charge $500 either route you go.
Plus I got a hard charger, the 30 round mags only would ever take 26, and it hated hollow points (all I was reloading at the time). I called KRISS about the hard charging issue and they simply said I was charging it wrong.
TL;DR: Pain in the ass and expensive to SBR, not a real reliable gun.
certain people, we call them "progressive liberals", find everything terrifying. these things include:
death, injury, taxes, people who think differently than they do, wilderness, firearms, knives, the color black, camouflage patterns, differences in political views, confrontation, violence/abuse, hard manual work, critical thinking, independent living, farming, industry, chemicals, non-computer science/technology, motor vehicles, trains, streets and avenues, night time, personal responsibility, guilt by association, and lastly they fear for the safety of their own ego.
these sorts of people tend to be very loud, but make up only a tiny part of the US. they are loud because they fear that they aren't special or unique, and that if they don't speak up and do stupid things like banning milk for babies that their lives will have no meaning.
>novelty space guns
Nailed it in one, OP
It came from the matrix, but right now it's being used by every fag and his pregnant uncle who thinks he's the first person on the internet to be able to spot narrative elements in media and popular culture that aren't consistent with reality.
Anyway, op, kriss vectors are neat and if you can afford it, why not get one? Wait for the 10mm version of course.
>They also made it so the barrel is removed with proprietary tools so only they can do it.
speaking as someone who SBR'd his Vector a couple years ago, it's a pressed in barrel that's pinned to a trunnion just like an AK. the only tools you need would be something to undo the welds and a press to take out the barrel and pin.
There was an entire countrywide "assault" weapons ban that had the criteria for being an "assault" weapon almost exclusively being aesthetically frightening features.
Such bans persist today in the more retarded of our states such as California, New York, and a few others, despite having zero impact on crime.
You may be familiar with the "shoulder thing that goes up" meme that floats around here. That was verbatim language from an advocate of such a ban, to describe the things that make a gun more deadly.
So, yes. Which is why we are forced to consider such bullshit.
it was her (Barbara boxer maybe feinstein)
answer to the question of did she know what is a barrel shroud
it was during a TV interview
she wanted the murder-death-kill shrouds banned
Carolyn McCarthy from NY (now retired)
The interview was to discuss a gun control bill she was pushing, and was asked what the things were that got banned. She didn't really know, but righteously asserted that they were all accessories to savagery, regardless.
>EVERYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME IS A SAMEFAG!