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How does he have full auto gun? Aren't tose for Militar

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How does he have full auto gun? Aren't tose for Military/LEOs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StxbkWLLTMI
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>>28629733
>tax stamp
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>>28629733
Tax tamp
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>>28629733
he has a lot of money
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>>28629743
>>28629747
Not American, pls explain.
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>tactical booty shorts
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>>28629764
There's this thing called the NFA that's basically a list of firearms and firearm accessories that are restricted from the public. If you want to own an NFA item you have to do some paperwork and pay $200 to the ATF, they'll then run a background check on steroids and if you come up clean they'll give you a stamp that says you can own the NFA item you filled the paperwork for.
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>>28629793
Some items are only five dollars like a shorty shotgun or rifle(has too be a premade one and not a conversion). I'm thinking of doing one for a serba or a sawn-off but not really sure if it's worth it etc.
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>>28629793
thanks, so why don't many more people own full auto guns?
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>>28629804

Actual full auto guns are limited to the ones made before 1986. There aren't very many around and cost $10,000+ before you pay the $200 tax stamp. Not many people apart from Dan 'I can't get into the SEALs' Blizerian can afford to send that much on what is basically a range toy.
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>>28629804
$25k price tag for them they commonly command
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>>28629804
The guns themselves are ludicrously expensive because you can only transfer ones made before 1986. It's basically a soft ban on them by the fucks in congress.
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>>28629804
Cost of the weapon and it can take up to six months for the paperwork to go through. Then your on the ATF radar.
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>>28629733
>nervous faked laughter of entourage everytime Dan does something

Seems like a lonely life.
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>>28629829
>>28629822
>>28629819
>>28629815
Very appreciated, guys. Just one more thing, what's the deal with pre 1986? what is the difference for a full auto made nowadays that you can't buy it?
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I thought full auto weapons were normal in america.
You see thema all the time on videos etc.
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>>28629842

it is m8

it is
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>>28629860
They were grandfathered in.
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>>28629822
Aren't the NRA and other organisations keen on getting this overturned?

Seems to fly in the face of the 2nd amendment somewhat.

>>28629842
It clearly has it's perks.
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>>28629893
>Seems to fly in the face of the 2nd amendment somewhat.
you don't say
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>>28629881
I'm sure having unlimited money takes the edge off almost completely.

Multiple fresh slits every night and all the toys you want.
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>>28629876
No. This is a big misconception by even people in the US thanks to the left wing propaganda.
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>>28629918
What does he do too afford all that?
Who is he and what's his net worth?
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>>28629893
The NRA has to support it because of the support it gets from the current NFA owner class. Many old, selfish fucks have "invested" in pre-ban machineguns and don't want their "investments" devalued by dismantling the law.
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>>28629893

Certainly has its perks, personally I'd get tired of having people (girls) around me only interested because I have money. I'm sure plenty wouldn't mind if they were getting pussy and I'm sure it'd be pretty fucking fun for a while but meh.
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>>28629926
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSizVpfqFtw

This one doesnt look to be manufactured before 1986, how can he own it?
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>>28629928

Daddy's trust fund
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>>28629928
He inherited all his money from his dad. His name is Dan Bilzerian. Not sure what he's actually worth, but probably less than the lifestyle he puts on social media suggests.
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>>28629932
>not having a harem of traps too shoot full auto machine guns with as they suck your dick, eat your ass and light your cigar all at once.
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>>28629954

Don't get me wrong I want all the guns and toys but I got the fucking hot sluts with an IQ of 90 out of my system in college
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>>28629946
>He inherited all his money from his dad
His dad's alive.
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>>28629937
Under law and to the ATF only one part of the gun is legally the gun. Usually the lower receiver. Every other part can be replaced.
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>>28629954
get >>>/out/ faggot

>>28629970
> hot sluts with an IQ of 90 out of my system in college
how is the virgin life treating you, ultimate gentleman?
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>>28629983

>if you claim to have had sex you must be a virgin

If you're relatively attractive, relatively funny, relatively confident and have the wherewithal to use it to your advantage you can get laid a lot in college.

I know that's difficult for you to understand as you sit there projecting this hard.
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>>28629971
It's wikipedia's job to explain what a living trust is to you.
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>>28629929
What are the prospects of ever having it overturned?
I mean it seems like the media and politicians are jumping all over the gun control issue at the moment (I suspect Obama wants it as one of his presidential legacies).
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>>28630000

Checked.
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>>28630017

It won't be.
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>>28629996
You do sound like a virgin. Only a virgin would dissect the college social experience like that. Just saying.

Anyway, Dan. B. probably hired a company with post-ban law enforcement samples (post-1986 machineguns authorized as dealer samples for review by law enforcement/military customers) to come out and let him and his whores shoot their shit. That is how they have post-86 MGs.
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>>28630017
>Dan Bilzerian
Hollis v Lynch
Watson v Lynch, look up these lawsuits.
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>>28630026

Clearly never been to college or spent it in your dorm room on 4chan.
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>>28629881

Paid whores and porn stars. Will suck your dick if you buy them nice shit or throw cash at them. They will still let it be known what a cunt you are.
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>>28630026

>since I couldn't get laid in college it must be hard for anyone to get laid in college
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>>28630026
Yet Tucker Max did exactly that and makes a living at it.
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>>28630214
Meant to quote the part about dissecting the college social experience.
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>>28630206
>Paid whores and porn stars
Fan fact: If you paid for your broad's dinner
If you paid for your broad's housing
If you paid for your broad's car
If you paid for your road's livelyhood (ala alimony)

that broad is a paid whore.

What Dan is doing is no different. Stop getting upset over shit that doesn't affect you.
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>>28630299

>Dating/marrying girls that don't contribute financially

Shiggy
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>>28630311
>marrying at all
Shiggy

Willingly allowing the government to get involved in your relationships is a sign of brain damage.
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>>28629733

you can own as many full auto guns as you want with the proper paperwork and licensing
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>>28629928
He has a trust fund with his dad, he's also in like 4 movies and is a "professional poker player" his net worth is $100 million. Dan Bilzerian
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>>28629996
Hell, you don't even need all of them. One out of three will get you laid as long as you don't have retarded standards.
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>>28630299

>Getting upset over shit that doesn't affect you.

Can this be made into a banner for the whole of 4chan?
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>>28630384
>stoplikingwhatIdon'tlike.jpg
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>>28630017
>What are the prospects of ever having it overturned?
Never.
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>>28630319

>being this autistic

People get married because they care about each other, yeah it's an arbitrary definition for a relationship but try to manage your tisms
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>>28630299
>broad
>broad
>broad
>broad
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Is there a possibility to get a newer automatci guns in america with some paperwork?

curious no-guns
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>>28630707
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/broad
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>>28629755
/thread

He's rich enough to shoot down $300 drones like skeet. He's got enough money to get the tax stamp and buy pre-1984 $12,000 select fire guns.
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Aren't all nfa items prohibited in cuckifornia?
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>>28631734
Aside from the illegals, I'm pretty sure not being wealthy and homosexual is illegal in California.
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>>28629733
Enjoy watching this douche do everything you can't because he's rich as fuck. Whores, guns, drugs... it's all legal if you can pony up the cash.

Only solace is that these fuckers end up high on coke and killing themselves in Laguna mansions when they pass 40...
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>>28629747
>>28629743
He lives in California, you cant get those even if you somehow manage to get a stamp.
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>>28631734
No. They're only prohibited if you're one of "Those People"
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>>28631905
>>28631948
Slight kek.

For real though, I was under the impression that nfa is a no go in CA
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>>28631734
From the lemited research I've done if you donate to the right campaign fund you can get permits for anything guns you want in Cuckafornia.
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>>28631975
https://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-gun-laws/california/
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>>28631975
Pretty sure the auto-fire tax stamp is federal jurisdiction. There are thousands of select fire gun in the US. Most are illegal and imported from Mexico and unregulated... this guy is rich enough to buy the stamp and the overpriced guns. And still can't hit anything with them.
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>>28631663
no, at best if you a FFL/SOT and are in with your local LEOs you can do some work to get post-dealer samples for newly manufactured machine guns, but even then they do not belong to you but to your shop.
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>>28631945
Not a problem for this dude, by the time he dies a premature death he'll probably be almost out of money.
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>>28632076
All that money went to creating jobs.
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>>28629733
>giving hookers $15,000 select fire weapons
>dumping $1x9000 on ammunition that hits nothing
>this is 1% America fuck you
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>>28629733
>2.45m
>walks off screen to have his mom reload the silenced 12ga
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>tfw he probably fucked claire

pic related
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>>28632258
who?
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>>28629733
Why is he wearing boxers?
Is this some new trend?
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>>28632258
You are on a first name basis with hookers?
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>>28631720
>pre 1984 machine guns for under $12,000
Literally what gun besides a mac10 and other outdated sub guns can be bought for that price?
Every pre ban machine gun I've ever seen that was even halfway worth a shit was over $20,000
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>>28631945

He's had multiple heart attacks already. I doubt he'll last much longer.
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>>28632419
Too much steroids and cocaine. He clearly dropped the steroids since he is looking flabbier each day now, if he only stays on the coke, he will be fine.
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>>28630213
Not that guy, but I think what he's saying is that when you frame it as "fucking hot sluts with an IQ of 90 because college" it sounds like a 90's sex comedy as opposed to a real story.

Personally I had a lot of fun with girls in college, but it was just as much a chance to meet people, learn lessons and make mistakes... if that sounds too cheesy, remember that all three of those were sex.

I suppose there is nothing with what the original anon said, he just sounds like a douche to the rest of us who've been there and done that.
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>>28632302

Because he's a faggot
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>>28632472
nothing wrong*
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>>28632472

>implying any state college isn't packed with dumb hot chicks ripe for the fucking
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>>28632472

>original poster says, I've got that out of my system

>hurr what a douche

wut
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>>28632419
>>28631945
we all are going to die, better take pleasure from life when he is alive. Who can criticize him?
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>>28629860
There's a government registry where full autos have to be registered.
That registry was closed in 1986, so no newer guns can be legally registered.

Exceptions are dealer samples and leo.
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>>28629842
I wonder if he'll shoot himself before a heart attack gets him?
I hope he tidied up that wreckage... though it would be funny if they left it to confuse the fuck out of archeologist in a few millenia.
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>>28632370
granted
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>>28632559
I have no problem with fucking young hot whores... their bodies are spectacular. I just wouldn't arm them with expensive weapons or let them talk too much.
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>>28632258
holy shit what i need more
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>>28629996
Work with a young guy who actually looks like a zombie, saw a girl who was way out of my league even in my hayday pick him up for lunch, Yet another reason I regret not going to college.
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>>28632258
Rich and confident, opposite of hoverhand in pic.
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>>28632311
>>28632280

claire abbot. shes "famous" for being hot.
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>>28633213
Dude, just beat off. Stop remembering the names of slags you'll never meet. Women remember celebrity names. That is a woman's past time.
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>>28632559

anyone know the asian one's name?
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>>28629733
Cuckstamps
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>>28633232

>doesn't know what google reverse image search is

>herpaderp you're pathetic
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>>28632018
Tax stamps are federal jurisdiction, but some states further restrict civilian ownership. I was under the impression that california outright banned nfa items but apparently like everything else in that communist shitpile, it all depends on who's hands you grease
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>these virgins putting pussy on the pedestal
>giving your virginity to some random girls
Faggots. I got five more years to go.
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Good thread for this question:

What is the cheapest registerable full auto reciever I can get? I dont care what the firearm is, I dont care if it functions, I just need a reciever with a legible, registerable serial number.
What is cheapest?
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>>28632018
>most are illegal
True

>imported from Mexico
Maybe if you're a spic, but DIAS and AK full ato components are easy to buy or make, and require very limited mechanical skills to install.

Most people who build them for shits and giggles quickly end up realizing it's a pointless waste of ammo for anything you'd normally be doing, so after a few magdumps innawoods/desert they end up in the attic.

I would honestly much rather see the NFA overturned before Hughes, but I can understand the reasoning behind pursuing the opportunity available with Hollis
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>>28633397
probably a $10,000 MAC or some other shitty stamped machine pistol
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>>28633437
fucking seriously? There are not any $500 crushed hunks of shit out there anywhere? goddamn it
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>>28633375

keep this /r9k/ tier cancer off /k/
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People forgot his daddy stole money then hid it in accounts with his kids names.

Suddenly he had to sell his "funs" goes and puts it all in poker and becomes filthy rich.

Couldn't make this shit up. We see you Dan.
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>>28633467
who cares

he's a shithead but he's promoting guns to the younger instagram generation
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>>28633464
>/r9k/ tier cancer off /k/
Newfag detected
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>>28629804
because new full auto guns stopped being legal to own in 1986, so the only ones you can legally buy are ones that were made before 1986. there is a limited market and lots of demand obviously, so prices for basic full auto rifles start somewhere near $20,000.

some US states also explicitly ban them, but you can own them in most states.
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>>28629893
lol...yes it flies in the face of the second amendment somewhat....america is turning into europe with its gun laws, that is the ultimate goal of the liberal left
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>>28633566
>posting NEET robot shit is "fun"
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>>28633566

>defending sad virgin underage posters

Wew lad
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>>28633397
Check out gunbroker.
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STOP MAKING STUPID PEOPLE FAMOUS
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>>28629893
Nevermind overturned, it never passed legally to begin with. But then we all started acting like it had passed, so now it's (long-)established law.

(It was voted on to be part of a package, where it was shot down. It was recorded as having failed, we have video proof. Then they stuffed it into the package anyway, and the package passed, so now it's law.)
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>>28633829
exactly.
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>>28633529
>the younger Instagram generation

Most intelligent young folks don't have any social media beyond maybe a token fagbook.

I can't stand snapchat, instagram, etc, it seems like even more of a waste of time than 4chan and vidya. But then I grew up with 4chan and MW2, and was never really involved with fagbook, so I guess I'm kind of biased in that regard.
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>>28633397
Mac 10.
Can be had for just over $4,000
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>>28629733

>sleeping with drunk women
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>>28630036
its keeps going to retrial because the legitimate reason was because "the ATF said so"
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>>28634010
isn't that called rape?
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>>28634010
Not everyone is in the military. Drunk women and drunk men have fucked for centuries. Its only your backwards organization that made it into a crime.

You are not the norm.
You are a bunch of freaks.
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>>28634122
Its also why women should be able to get away with drunk driving.

If a woman cannot be held responsible during sex,
why can she be held responsible when she drives?
Or when she does anything when alcohol is involved?
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Couldnt you turn a semi auto weapon into a fully auto one with some simple modifications? Only for educational purposes I ask this of course.
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>>28634155
bottle

opener
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>>28631948
>>28631975

he keeps his full auto funs in Nevada
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>>28634187
When I see his plane land at my job. I throw up on the inside.
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>>28634187
When I see his plane land near my work, I throw up a little on the inside.
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>>28633634
>>28633663
>implying half of /k/ isn't forever alone 30-something manlets
>inb4 projecting
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>>28629815
wait, idiot here, that UMP he was using was designed in the 90's and i think produced in the late 90's. how does he have an automatic one if the registry is closed?
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>>28629804

Cost, and also NFA guns/items aren't legal in all states. Certain states restrict them, either fully (like California) or in some cases a state will say that suppressors are legal, but machine guns are illegal.
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>>28634264

Except it isn't. How new are you?
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I believe you can also pay the ATF many thousands of dollars...something like 6-8k per year...and get a dealers license. This allows you to temporarily possess newer full autos. These can only be transferred between other dealers.
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>>28634135
>women
>driving

Solid fucking kek. My girlfriend always begged me to drive her to work because she was scared to get behind the wheel.
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>>28629733
90% sure the girl on the rights name is alyssia ames on facebook
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>he's shooting at DJI phanthoms
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>>28634337
No.
To be considered a dealer by the ATF, you actually need a business to sell firearms out of and you have to actually sell them.
You're thinking of dealer samples. Forgot how they work but you can build full autos, screw around a bit and chop them up.
Think you have to be a title 7 FFL to do that.
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>>28634264
>implying /k/ isnt normie as fuck
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>>28634336
>he's never been to a /k/ meetup
>he's never seen tripfags irl
>he probably thinks being an militaryfag = free pussy
Just
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>>28634435
More normie than most boards, but obscure by Reddit standards.
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>>28634294
>not knowing you can technically legally acquire a POST 1986 mg by getting an LEO letter or dealer sample.
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is it really a stamp?
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>>28634294

Read the rest of thread. He most likely has a friend who is a dealer and is able to get samples of post '86 machine guns that are meant for law enforcement and military. I think someone said technically they belong to the business and not the person. Same idea with most youtube guys.
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>>28634517

Yep, the come along with an over sized novelty stamp and firmly press it onto the gun. That way anyone can see it's legal.
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>>28630299
>2016
>paying for girls
People really still do that?
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>>28634595
>being 15 this hard

People will be paying for sex until we go extinct.
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>>28629929
thats not true in the slightest. some MG owners are like that, most are not. the NRA makes no real actions because the majority of their members are "guns are for hunting" crowd members.
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>>28634595
Anyone with no self respect will.
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>>28634441
Agreed that most of /k/ (myself included) have severe woman problems

But tripfags are by no means representative of /k/, the only one that might be said to be is Phil, pretty much everyone else are attention whoring blowhards
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>>28634441

the people that actually go to meetups are not representative of /k/

but thanks for giving us an idea of what you're like
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>>28634428
umm, sorry to say, but a friend paid the fees for a few years...he wasn't a "business" at all.
He could possess full auto for a certain time period and then had to send them back to whoever he "borrowed" them from.
He could also send and receive weapons without going thru dealers.
Not sure what kind of permit it was though. He got tired of paying the high fee and let it lapse.
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>>28634595
If you're someone who doesn't care about feelings It's the best thing anon. You go in, you pay a few bucks, you fuck that midtier pussy and then you leave and don't see her ever again. No emails, no text messages, no phone calls, no awkward moments, no fancy dinner, no problems with her having a few drinks and claim you raped her in the next morning, no nothing. Absolute no hassle.
If you're the type who feels the need to have anyone to share happy moments then yeah, paid whores are not for you.

t. whore fucker
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>at least he got her before colon noir
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>>28634124
How do we know Josie didn't rape Jake?
He couldn't legally consent to having sex, either.

BURN THEM BOTH? Shit just happens? Don't get drunk and have sex with strangers?
No, fuck personal responsibility. It's obvious the man's fault.

And this is why having sex in college is a piss-poor idea. Ever.
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>>28632370
an fn fnc, there are more registered FA fncs and autosears then semi auto fncs in the US
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>>28635093
>he got a boner
It's all the judge needs to ear and you're fucked anon. Double standards brought to you by a feminist era.
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>>28635109
The bottom one just barely makes the cut.
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>>28633437
MACs and clones are $3-6k, not $10k
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>>28635093
>BURN THEM BOTH?
This fag still thinks rules apply to women.
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Wasn't that the guy who flunked out of buds and had a heart attack from coke before he was 30?
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>>28630214
>>28630228
You know none of that ever happened right? He can't even defend it either.
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>>28630000
WITNESSED
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>>28635877
Better than passing BUD/S, living in a trailer park and having to live the rest of your life as a woman.

Enlisted fags hate success.
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>>28633894
Can you tell me more? All this happened before I was born, never lived in a world with full auto funs
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A four-year Navy veteran, [17] Bilzerian entered the Navy SEAL training program in 2000.[18] After several attempts, he did not graduate the program. The reporter who conducted the interview of Bilzerian for SOFREP.com confirmed his participation in the SEAL program and stated that according to his research Bilzerian was dropped "for a safety violation on the shooting range".[18] After his military career, Bilzerian enrolled at the University of Florida, majoring in Business and Criminology.[19]
Hmm
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>>28629954
Lucky man.
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>>28629733
What a fucking rich asshole. I wonder how much he has to pay those whores to pretend like they have a personality.
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>>28632258
Is her head fucking inflating holy shit
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>>28636605
>asshole
That's what women say to insult successful men. I'm sure you have a more well thought out reason for why you dislike this guy you have never interacted with.

And those are chicks in their 20s. They don't need a personality.
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>>28632370
Military issue NESA .30'06 BAR
Uzi
Misc oriental chit.

Get over your poorfaggines
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>>28636669
Can you not read, faggot?
Besides useless subguns. That would include literally 2/3rds of what you mention, and I highly doubt a f/a 30-06 of any variety is sub $12,000
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>>28629798
>shorty shotgun or rifle
Almost. The $5 stamp is for AOWs (any other weapon), or a firearm that doesn't specifically meet the definition of an SBR, SBS, etc. The Serbu Super Shorty and other shotguns under 26" without a stock fall under the AOW category. Firearms that don't look like firearms are also considered AOWs. Pen guns, cane guns, knife guns, and shit you'd find in a spy book fall under this.
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>>28635405
>I should have bought when they were $7k
>I Should have bought a lightnink link when they were also $7k
>MFW I bought 2 M11s instead
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>>28636812
What the hell are you on about?
Do you even Google?

http://www.subguns.com/classifieds/index.cgi?db=nfafirearms&website=&language=&session_key=&search_and_display_db_button=on&results_format=long&db_id=26741&query=retrieval

http://www.subguns.com/classifieds/index.cgi?db=nfafirearms&website=&language=&session_key=&search_and_display_db_button=on&results_format=long&db_id=26677&query=retrieval

http://www.subguns.com/classifieds/index.cgi?db=nfafirearms&website=&language=&session_key=&search_and_display_db_button=on&results_format=long&db_id=26786&query=retrieval

Get over your poorfaggines.
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>>28629733

Dude is probably a dealer... you can make new full autos if you are a Class III dealer.

But you have to destroy them if you close the shop.
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>>28637584
>you can make new full autos if you are a Class III dealer.
Almost. You have to be an SOT class 1 or 2 to manufacture post sample machine guns. You can have machine guns in inventory as a class 3, but you have to have a law enforcement demo letter to possess it.
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>>28637634
>SOT class 1 or 2

How much does that cost?

And how come no one commented on how that guy Dan is shooting in the air and not into a berm? Not safe imo.
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>>28634388
Just ordered 3 of these for a Class I'm helping set up in college.
>tfw their like 1000 each
>tfw he just shoots them
Why not just use cheap shitty 100$ drones to shoot?
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>>28637696
>How much does that cost?
Depends on the level of manufacturing. It's the same if your main business is not NFA manufacturing. Otherwise, $1000 a year, plus excise taxes.
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>>28637502
Literally none of those are sub $12,000 once again you can't fucking read.
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>>28629733
What I never understood is if he did try out for Navy SEAL'S and failed than what was he reclassed as? You cant just walk in to a recruiting office and say I just want to try out for this specific job and if I get it I will stay but if not than I dont feel like staying. What did he reclass as or say to get out?
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>>28629770
If the Brits can do it, we can too.
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>>28640214
medical discharge due to heart condition.
This is common knowledge, how are you even allowed to have opinions on things if you are this uninformed, if you google his name it says this shit.
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>>28633309
>he took the time to reverse image search something this pathetic
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>>28633278
kitty
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>>28640250
Thats what Im getting at. They find that shit out at MEPS. He should have never had the chance to even walk past the swear in ceremony.
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>>28640315

>using the tools you have available makes you pathetic

>implying you havent wanted sauce before
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>>28629996
This.

I feel bad for guys who were born beta.
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>>28629937
Dealer sample.
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>>28629733
what is that shotgun you see at 1:15 ?
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>>28635087
>letting women play with pistols

ffs
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wtf why is this so (relatively) cheap
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>>28642279
Dealer samples are cheaper because they can only go to an sot. There isn't a huge market for them and they can only be sold to military or law enforcement.

Essentially because the market for them is so mich smaller, the demand isn't there like it is for civilian transferrable weapons.
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>>28634244
>>28634233
Christ, samefagged for consecutive doubles.

I'm not even mad. I'm impressed.
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>>28642279
Need to be an appropriate dealer. Need to pay special occupation taxpayer fees. Need to have a law enforcement department send you a letter on letterhead requesting a demonstration of that specific weapon.
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