Sig P938: Why don't you have one?

I've actually been looking at picking up one of these, but it'd be my first handgun.

Anything I should know about it?

>>28623232
>Anything I should know about it?

It's the fucking best pocket gun in the market.

>Single Action
>On a carry gun
>in the 21st century
It became obsolete like 3 decades before it was sold

>>28623263
t. lcp owner

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>>28623208
Because I bought a P239 instead.

I really do wish Sig would make a DA/SA 9mm in the P938 size though.

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I'm thinking about buying this for my... err, girlfriend.

$400 on sale. NIB.

What are some good holsters for it?

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>>28623315
>Because I bought a P239 instead.

Good man

>I really do wish Sig would make a DA/SA 9mm in the P938 size though.

I completely agree 100%. I would buy a p239 if it were a bit more size efficient and the p224 just doesn't cut it. Fuck that thing.

>>28623208
aluminum frame

>>28623348
>$400 on sale. NIB.

That better be 9mm and not a .22

>>28623208

Because I don't have woman hands.

>>28623208
cause i live in kalifornia and my overlords deemed it an unsafe pistol for us peasants so gunstores cant sell them

>>28623360
It's 9mm

The store bought a bunch, and was never able to sell them.

>>28623208
Because I'm poor

>>28623389
Not enough ...err, girlfriends

>>28623389
>The store bought a bunch
lol who in purchasing thought that was a good idea?

>>28623389
Bring your gf and try one out if they have a shooting range, they're extremely pleasant to shoot for their small size and have good triggers.

>>28623208

is it really a SIG though? because to me it looks like a baby 1911 OP

>>28623411
Anon, I don't think he is buying it for his "err, girlfriend."

I almost bought one a few hours ago but decided I didn't want to spend the money right now. Plus I'm holding out until I can get my hands on a RAMI.

>>28623410
I don't know, they're the same store that pays it's employees a week late, and bought a bunch of urban carry and other holsters that they haven't been able to sell.

>>28623408
Yeah the population of girlfriends is quite low where I live.

>>28623411
Anon, I don't think you get it. "She" has shot one before and loved it.

>>28623429
Sig does make 1911's famo

Oh boy, a Colt Mustang clone!


If I wanted a Colt Mustang, I'd buy...a Colt Mustang!

>>28623439
Do they have an online store?

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>>28623208
>>28623315
I didn't feel right in my hand. Also went with the 239 instead

>>28623455
Do you find it to be easily concealable? It's basically my ideal cc gun but for 8 rounds it's fuckhueg

>>28623476
Yeah, I'm 5'10 and 140 lbs and it's pretty easy to carry in a comp-tac MTAC. I'll probably just look for a smaller holster this spring or just and up picking up a Glock 43 or something for super hot temperature carry.

>>28623476
Also >>28623509 is >>28623315

>>28623454
Unfortunately no.

They're a back-alley store which was opened by the owner so he could have some fun toys to play with. Unfortunately he forgot that he still needs to pay people, and run a business.

A Colt Mustang is much sexier.

>>28623534
9mm > .380

If I wanted to carry a .380 that was sexy, I'd buy a Sig P232

>>28623208
The trigger is fucking awful. The sear is low quality stamped metal and many examples (including mine) have a lip that drags along the frame, making a heavy, gritty, and worst of all, inconsistent trigger pull. It would probably be trivial to fix, but I don't want to carry a gun that needs to be fixed before it's even usable.

Your rabid fanboy-ism is showing.

>>28623455
You got an srt in that bitch?

>>28623476
Its my only gun I legit feel comfy with just CCing in the belt with no holster.

>>28623208
Cause I can't conceal carry

>>28623315
>I really do wish Sig would make a DA/SA 9mm in the P938 size though.

This this this fucking this. I'm looking at an HK P2000SK right now because of it.

>>28623208
I don't like manual safeties on compact pistols. I have big hands, and am find carrying a 1911, but when it comes to small pistols like that I have trouble manipulating the safely smoothly under stress.

>>28623596
The P239 is plenty easier to carry than the P2000SK though desu

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>>28623315
>>28623596
>this and the p225-a1 exist

fuck is sig doing

>>28623348
You like traps, don't you, Squidward?

>>28623624
I think everyone just tries to forget that the P224 exists.

>>28623624
>P224

Raging pile of awkward, poorly-balanced shit and needs to be thrown back into the pits of hell

>P225-A1

Literally just a larger P239 that takes proprietary mags. That's right, SIG decided that it wouldn't take original P225 magazines OR P239 magazines.

SIG needs to get their shit together and come out with a smaller P239 already

>>28623624
What a piece of shit.

>>28623208
I have one on the way.

>>28623666
Not even close you dumb cunt

>>28623665
I'm just curious enough to see how much of a poorly balanced pile of chunk a p224 is. It's somewhat amusing how they're offered in .40.

>>28623208

I was really interested in the 238 for a bit, but I just read a bunch of problems. Failures to eject, broken slide catch springs that would cause the slide to lock back randomly, and one case where the mags were denting the feed ramp and causing feeding problems. I was also considering the p224 at the time, so seeing bother the p238 and p224 being crappy really turned me off of Sigs.

>>28623666
Shoot yourself.

Actually, no, hang yourself. That way it's one less "gun death" the anti-gunners can use.

>>28623441
they are nice 1911s too. but sig didnt invent the design

>>28623232

Its pricey, its heavy for its capacity (borderline too big for pocket carry) and its single action only.

That said, I have also been contemplating one myself.

Its definitely on my short list along with the Colt Mustang XSP that it is modeled after, seecamp 380, LCP, NAA Guardian 380, Walther PPK and LC9.

All things considered the LCP is still the king of pocket guns; tiny, light, simple, reliable, cheap. I do like the looks of the 238/938/PPK the best though.

>>28623749
Your point?

>>28623443
lol this

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>>28623208
Because I own a P238

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>>28623348
makes pimpin easy.

>didn't this all happen before?????

>>28623443
Why the fuck would you do that? I bought a Colt Mustang. It has shit for sights, and should have bought the Sig version.

I did, however, just in the past hour pick up a P938.

>>28623208
live in commiefornia, so i have a 238 instead

>>28623208
i'va got a G26, and until it stops being a dead reliable, full-on duty gun in a CC package i will stick with what i got.

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Love muh 239 too much. Best pistol my friend

>>28623443
>implying Colt makes a 9mm Mustang
>implying that would mean Colt paid attention to market trends and its customers wishes

Sure anon, you go and buy that Colt that doesn't exist.

>>28623762
point is its a dated design and there are better 9mmoptions. like kahr cm9, ruger lc9, s&w shield, etc

>>28623811
dont get me wrong i want one for the collection, but i cant get them in california anyway

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>>28623208
Because I prefer DA/SA sigs.


Though I will be buying a 938 in a couple of weeks.

>>28623870
It's you again

>>28623870
Ella es muy bonita

>>28623208

because glock 43

>>28623208
I live in Canada.
I can, however, CCW a hockey stick, eh?

>>28623880
Is this a good or bad thing?

>>28623900
ella es mi perra favorita, ansiosos y confiable a un T.

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Because I held it in a fun store and, while nice, the Kahr CM9 felt fantastic in my hands as well.

The price on the Sig killed me and I went with pic related.

>>28623961
I just couldn't get used to the trigger on Kahrs

>>28623943
a good thing

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>>28624022
Very well.

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>>28624045
Also to keep thread related. I have been carrying pic related all winter, and it has been easy.

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I prefer pic related.

Because I have a P228.

>>28624090
GripZONE....!!!!!11!>>..1..

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>>28624061
If I lived somewhere colder where I had to wear a jacket, I could actually carry my p226.

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>>28624115
I have carried this guy a couple of times as well, though I prefer the capacity of the P229. But its not hard to conceal a P226/P220/P227 under a flannel.

>>28624106
Yes, that is what it says.

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>>28623208
Have this very configuration. An awesome gun. Surprisingly accurate for its size. Pic related - 4x52 rounds in one visit. Then I got bored.

>>28624159
They are good guns, but that is some stupid ass marketing.

it's twice as heavy as my G43 and it's SAO

>>28623348
Desantis Mini Scabbard works nicely. Stock plastic is usable, but not perfect.

>>28624174
Pretty good anon.

>>28624182
Buy a better belt you pleb.

>>28624179
Agreed.

>>28624061
>>28624115
>>28624155
Damn, I just bought a P226 over a P229. I wanted another full sized handgun besides my 1911 since I already have a Glock 19 and a P239.

Eventually I'll pick up a P229 or M11.

>>28623443
>Oh boy, a Colt Mustang clone!
You got it wrong. P238 is, not P938.

>If I wanted a Colt Mustang, I'd buy...a Colt Mustang!
Rumors are Mustangs are crappy and overpriced these days, P238 is a better choice.

>>28624155
>under a flannel

am I back in 1998?

>>28624220
I'm looking for a duo-tone P228 right now. Nickel slide and controls, with no night sights.

>>28624203
or, or, OR!
I could just not spend 700 dollars on a gun that is objectively worse than a 450 dollar one

>>28624090

Where do you grip it

>>28624246
Haha, it's making a comeback man. Whats old is new again.

>>28623405

STOP BEING POOR

You're welcome.

Vote for me.

>>28624254

Except the Sig is better in every way.

>>28623359
Realistically, how many rounds do you have to fire to wear it out?

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While we're shitting on everyone, can someone say something about the hawg 9mm.

I assume para ordinance sucks, but I never hear anything about them.

>>28623556

9mm is the same bore as .380 and similar case length.

If you load a .380 with a bullet and powder charge identical to what a 9mm has...

YOU WOULD GET THE EXACT SAME PERFORMANCE.

>>28624271
oregonbro detected?

>>28624260
Duh, in the grip zone

>>28624300
Jewtah.

>>28623348
Seriously, who the fuck thought this color scheme was a good idea? They should have been fired immediately after suggesting it.

I mean, what the fuck.....seriously.....why? I just......I just can't.

>>28624298
>being this autistic and defensive of .380

>>28624329
It was an accident and it turned out that there were people who wanted them so they started producing them.

>>28624294
>I assume para ordinance sucks, but I never hear anything about them.

If you're talking about /k/, it's because everyone here is poor.

>>28624331

I'm not defending it.

I'm just saying it's almost identical to 9mm and if you load it the same as a 9mm then it will be the same as 9mm.

>>28624307
close enough

>>28624306

Oh shit I don't know how I missed that

>>28624368
Yeah you're right haha.

>>28624364
That's true.

>>28624366
But 9x19 and .380 aren't loaded the same. We all know this. When I said 9mm > .380, I thought it was clear that I wasn't strictly talking about the diameter of the bullet.

>>28623429
It's a reinvention of a colt design. Colt made the Government .380 in a scaled down 1911 with a different trigger and no grip safety. Then they cut 1/4" off the barrel and called it the Mustang .380.

Sig started producing a new copy of the Government .380 called the P238. They Sigged up the slide but it's otherwise a direct copy of the Colt.

They upscaled the P238 from 9x17 to 9x19 and called it the P938. It's the same internals as the Colt, just scaled up a tiny bit.

>>28624423
When's the last time you've seen someone mention a wilson combat or their new sr25?

I can only name one person who actually has the latter.

>>28624349
Those people should be rounded up

>>28624298
lol

>>28624424

It's personal preference anyway. Just like .357 and .38, either caliber can be fired out of a gun chambered for the other. It's a personal style thing. I have thankfully never used it but I keep my Bersa Thunder loaded with 9mm.

>>28623443
No gunz gonna no gunz.

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Because I got this instead.

>>28624294
>Para used to be good when they were in Canada.
>then they moved to the US and production got fucked for a few years, their QC went to shit
>then Remington bought Para, surprisingly didn't fuck with them at all, and after a while Para got their shit together and started making good pistols again
>...then Remington announced they were closing the factory and firing everyone

So good > shit > good > dead

Though they are not kill yet. They're still up and running, the "integration" into Remington's Alabama plant was delayed for unknown reasons.

Also worth noting is that, unlike all the other brands Remington has raped and absorbed, they are totally killing the Para brand once production moves to the Rem plant. Para's designs will be rebranded "Remington" and Para as a name will cease to exist.

>>28624456
wut.

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>>28624289
except for weight price and all around usefulness as a carry gun

>>28623711
Make sure you narrow down the timeframe. Both early P238 and P938 had their share of problems (including mandatory recalls), but they seem to be fine lately.

>>28624366
That's not how ammunition works

>>28624433
...para isn't even that expensive...unless I have wildly exaggerated what normal guns cost now.

>>28624456
Da fuq

>>28624494
No, Para is on the cheaper end of US made 1911s. No idea what anon is talking about.

>>28623665
>Literally just a larger P239 that takes proprietary mags. That's right, SIG decided that it wouldn't take original P225 magazines OR P239 magazines.

Wat

>>28624473
Huh, I didn't know that. Now I want one even more and have to put a clock on it.

>>28624530
Read the sentence carefully again. It wouldn't hurt to google the specs of the three guns mentioned.

>>28624530
The new P225 isn't really a P225. It's a P239 that takes its own mags.

>>28623752
>All things considered the LCP is still the king of pocket guns; tiny, light, simple, reliable, cheap. I do like the looks of the 238/938/PPK the best though.
Shield, nignog.

>>28624569
Funny way to spell lcp

>>28624569
Shield is pretty mediocre 2bh, outdone by the Glock 43, Walther PPS, hell even the Springfield XDs

>>28624530
The P225 is a compact version of the P220. The P220 was originally sold in 9mm, and also .45 and a few other calibres. The P225 was introduced as a compact version of those, only in 9mm. It's rather large for a 9mm.

SIG released the P239 later, which is scaled down and meant to fit the 9mm, .40, and 357 SIG. It's smaller than the P225.

SIG's "P225-A1" takes new magazines for some undeclared reason. It's still an 8rnd 9mm single-stack pistol, just like the P225 and P239, but won't take either magazines.

In the end it's just functionally a larger P239 with proprietary magazines and a higher pricetag.

>>28624298
No you won't. For at least one reason: the barrel is shorter, which means a) less energy transferred to the bullet and b) inherently lower accuracy of the gun.

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>>28624559
It doesn't feel very good either.

I was very excited at the thought of a tactical model. But after learning my mountain of P6 magazines won't work in them, I was pretty bummed.

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>>28623645

>>28624615
>But after learning my mountain of P6 magazines won't work in them

how many for a mountain?

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>>28624613
>the barrel is shorter, which means inherently lower accuracy of the gun.

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I have one. Going to be sending it back for the 3rd time or selling it soon. I'm so tired of Sigs bullshit.

>buy P938 SAS from PSA during a sale
>safety deeply scratches frame through the anodizing and rattles
>sent to Sig and get new frame installed
>new frame has the front strap checkering mauled and the magazine release sticks
>oh and the frame to slide fit is now loose as a whore
>get totally new pistol after bitching enough
>new pistol has machining marks on the frame under the anodizing and inside the slide serrations

I will never buy another Sig again after this fucking piece of shit.

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>>28623961
enjoy your moonie gun

>>28624625
like 20 or so.

>>28624559
The P225 is a little bit chunkier than the P239.

Aside for people who wanted them to bring the P225 back for the sake of having a P225, I really don't quite understand it's place in Sig's line up now.

Plus I have no use for rails on my P239 and don't see the need for them on a P225.

>>28624291

the 938s alloy frame wears significantly faster than your average Sig.

After about 200 rounds with liberal use of grease my frame rails are already showing shiny aluminum.

>>28624634
Elaborate.

>>28624675
Barrel length does not determine accuracy so long as the bullet is stabilized when it exits.

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>>28624657
>mfw read up on how sig is going to remake p225's
>mfw see the ad for it months later
>>28624675
>Elaborate.

Do your own fucking homework

>>28624701
Not him, but if you're going to tell someone their wrong you should really say why.

>>28623208
already have a P238

>>28624664
I've put mine through about a thousand, yes, the aluminium is showing. However, how does this affect the shootability? You're aiming down the slide/barrel combo tightly held onto the frame by a spring, it will not jiggle, and your sight line is not affected.

Just asking. I have the same concern - not planning to baby it, and wondering how long it'll live, and what to do with it then.

>>28624635
You sound like little fucking bitching faggot.

>>28624485

Ok, take two 9mm rounds and one pistol.

Take one of the rounds and shoot it in ballistics gel.

Take the other and remove the bullet, dump the powder on a piece of paper, and grind the brass down 2 millimetres. Put the powder back in, put the bullet back, and recrimp.

Shoot that into ballistics gel.

The performance will be INDISTINGUISHABLE.

>>28624797

0/10

try harder, nigger

>>28623208
>carrying anything over 380 in a pocket carry pistol
Literal autism

>>28624788

I guess once the anodizing is worn through on sigs the frame rails turn to shit and start wearing out fast to the point of cracking.

SIG is overpriced dog shit.

Literally the Audi of the gun world.

>>28623208
>SA carry gun
>safety on a carry gun

If it was SA/DA or DAO, I'd own one.

>>28624991
I own Sigs and Audi. Am I a dumb?

>>28625008

i'd consider suicide

>>28624644
HAHAHA I forgot about this! The kahr guy is rev moons kid. So weird.

>>28625008
Yes. You should've driven a BMW.

>>28625042
BMWs are for VP9 buyers.

>>28625008
>paying an extra $10,000 for a VW with a different logo

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>>28625042
Luckily I do.

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>>28623208
Way to fucking tony. I was all over one until I saw it in person. Its like the size of a cereal box toy. I wanted to love it but I could hold the thing comfortably and shooting it was worse. Pic related is my "pocket" gun. I wish more companies made single stack compacts that were just slightly bigger
Id love a single stack glock 19

>>28624942
Well, I'm sure I'll have this gun long enough, at a rate of 200+ rounds a week, to observe and report back. Stay tuned.

>>28625004

I seriously don't know why Sig hasn't tried to make one in SA/DA or at least DAO instead of their worthless Legion shit and even more P320 versions.

I mean Kimber has the Solo striker system. Just remove the faggot safety and your halfway there. Not to mention the Colt Pocket Nine despite its horrendous trigger.

>>28625055
Correct. All of mine work like a charm.

>>28625101

just keep it well greased and I'm sure you can push at least a couple thousand out of it.

>>28625055
This. I'd take Audi over BMW.

I want an A3 Quattro so badly.

>>28625128
Until they hit 100k
then it's back to the shop for ridiculous overpriced part of the month

>>28625072
"The only right bimmer is a fiver. Everything else is either too small, or too big".

Surprisingly, this stays true even as the general sizes grow - F30 is probably bigger than E28.

Keep the size up, anon. Nice mountains, too.

>>28625115
It wouldn't be too hard. I'd love a DAO. It works great with my LCP.

>>28625093

well the PPS M2 with a 7 round magazine is about as close as you're going to get.

>>28623389
Dude, honestly I don't care what coloration it is. If they're actually selling P938s for 400 bucks you need to buy one RIGHT FUCKING NOW. I have a P238 and love it. I've wanted a 938 since they came out, you know why I haven't bought one yet? Because they're fucking expensive. I can't find those shits for less than 700 dollars. If I walked into a gun store and saw them selling 938s for 400 bucks I'd literally buy every single one.They may as well be giving you the gun for free and then handing you 200 dollars on top of that. Who gives a fuck if it's rainbow.

[spoiler]My P238 is in rainbow[/spoiler]

>>28625160
Holy shit this.

>>28625160
That's why you don't take them to the shop. Three things:

1. http://www.realoem.com/bmw/
2. BMW TIS.
3. Profit!

>>28625008
>owns Colts with a different rollmark and a VW with leather


lmao

>>28623208
I have a shield, the best striker ccw in the world. If I wanted a hammer I probably would get a Sig tho.

>>28623348
I want one of those rainbow ones bad.
Do they sell online to an FFL transfer?

>>28625168
A6 3.0 Supercharged is my daily, the 135i is my weekend car.

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>>28623208
I already bought a p320. S-S-Sorry

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>>28625195
>working on anything important on a BMW without a bay and full shop tools
end my life fám

>>28625145
They drive like shit but are comfy. Lexus actually splits the difference between bmw's ride and audi's comfort pretty nicely.

>>28624675
Barrel length increases mechanical accuracy due to barrel harmonics. In practice, though, shorter barrel usually = shorter sight radius, so the shooter's ability to shoot accurately is diminished. Thus leading to the wide-spread misconception that short barrels are inaccurate,

>>28623208
I have one and really enjoy it, for a ccw pistol it shoots very nicely, even +P ammo isn't unpleasant.

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>>28623376
Is there no end to your state's faggotry?

>>28625179
yeah im looking into getting one. stiil I think about mailing glock my idea all the time, I don't even care if I get credit for it

>>28625322
Oh! E39, the love of my life.

So far, the only BMW tool I had to actually buy was the oversized ball joint extractor for front suspension. Had the car for... probably more years than the average /k/ age is.

>>28623208
Because I have Bassist Hands, and that gun is too goddamn tiny.

>>28625456
Are you awkward and creepy like the average bassist?

>>28625415

do it.

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>>28625527
Even if I said no, you wouldn't believe me. You also wouldn't believe how good panties smell after soccer practice.

>>28623208
Because manual safeties are gay.

>>28625415
Because they haven't already thought of and rejected the idea.

>>28625589
Na man it's cool with me. Rock on creepy guy that always watches everyone like he wants to rape/invitethemtoteatime

>>28623348
The only thing I dislike on that pistol is the grips. That shit looks ass against the iridescent coating. Shoulda been matte black, or the same finish as the slide and levers. I love Sig pistols, but for fuck's sake, they need to fire the guy that comes up with their aesthetics.

Except for equinox. That shit is gorgeous.

>>28625727
It is, indeed. If not for TruGlo front sight, I'd have gone with it.

>>28625414
Easier to own a gun in Canada than in California.

>>28624300
Here in OR, it never left...

Have one in my pocket now

>>28625608
took them how many fucking years to come out with the 43? I don't see the harm in given them some needed kicks in the ass

>>28624462
Whatever helps you sleep at night.

>>28623208
I'd love to pick one up, though its a bit pricy for what it is.

Anyone have one of the .380 browning 1911s? They seem cool but Idk if I've seen one in the wild

>>28623208
Looks fucking retarded. That grip is atrocious. How fat it is, and has no curves. What are ergonomics? Unbalanced as shit. Awkward as fuck to hold. Could not engage safety without adjusting grip. Trigger sucks and is inconsisent, sear is probably cheap bullshit stamped garbage...Too expensive for being a turd.

Fix these things and I'll think about buying one. I like the size of it, And the low bore axis. Make it look nicer and maybe give me a polymer framed version that is light as shit. Actually, just copy the colt mustang XSP but make it 9mm. kthxbai

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>>28624090

Slightly off topic, but still in the realm of carry handguns, I have the mk25 (I bought it because I really like the look to it and not for any performance gains, same reason I will be getting the sig elite with rosewood grips and I have a Buckmark with rosewood..it's really nice looking to me) But I also have a old Star PD 45 that shoots flawlessly and is really accurate. Would either of them work for concealed carry? I don't have my permit yet but want to get it soon. The PD is smaller than the mk25 and .45 not 9mm. I use it as a glove box gun since that's legal without a permit where I live and it's already beat up a good bit. Should I look into a compact size for every day carry, you think? Since most of you do carry it would be good to hear real life stuff. Thanks

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Already have one.

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Had to send mine to sig because the mags would drop automatically while firing causing FTF all the damn time. It's a great pistol but it has its problems. I occasionally would get FTEs with shittier ammo also. It's accurate as hell- shoots like it's a bigger gun and it has really nice sights. Would recommend but test thoroughly before carrying.

>>28623208
>Best ccw in the world
>That trigger
Try again OP

>>28623208
shit trigger in a $700 gun is unacceptable

>>28629642
Those factory night sights are one of the reasons I bought mine.

>>28628809
Typical idiot who is too poor to own a p938, or anything pricier than a Bersa Thunder.

I own a p938, it has never ftf, the trigger is good with a clean break around 5lbs, and it is accurate as fuck, shoots like a full size. Fits my hand like a glove, and even my girlfriend says it's a pleasure to shoot.

She used to get upset as a nogunz when she would pick up a Shield, LCP, Taurus etc and I'd call it a piece of shit.
Now that she's hasgunz, she understands why I was a bit impatient with her and scoffed at garbage.

She wants a p938 now and a Baby Eagle.

>>28629732
Nothing wrong with the Bersa Thunder. I carried one for years before I replaced it with my P238. I wouldn't say that the Thunder is an ideal CCW but it isn't the worst option out there.

>>28629776
My post isn't about calling the Bersa shit, it's about the fags that can barely afford a $250 gun calling superior weapons shit because they're poor.

Grady's in Anderson was selling p938s for $550 earlier this month, which is a steal.
I paid $525 for my Etreme. Worth every penny.

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>>28629244
I say this all the time but I carry a Glock 30SF. One day my brother-in-law let me try his Glock 21SF for giggles and grins and it concealed just the same. There was hardly any difference. Then I tried a Glock 41 and a Beretta PX4 Storm .45 full-size. They all conceal great. I promise I don't have any attachment to .45, they all just happened to be .45.

So now I am shopping for a full-size carry gun. Some people are just hell bent that they absolutely cannot carry a full-size gun. It's like a mentally imposed limit. My advice would be to give the one you like better a try. Yeah Mk25 is big but how much bigger is it than a full-size Glock? So that's my take. Follow your dreemz, man. Don't listen to the people who say you NEED a mouse gun. They are all tightly-clothed fuccbois.

Also see: https://youtu.be/47QEgTSGnbA

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Because I already have this one^

not really that good, thinking of buying a Glock

>>28629732
>Typical idiot who is too poor to own a p938
Typical inability to comprehend what was said. He said "Too expensive for being a turd". He did not say "Can not afford this expensive turd". Sounds like he doesn't want to sink money into something he thinks sucks. And you got butt mad because he pointed out issues with a gun you own, when this is a thread designed specifically to point out reasons not to own one. So you are a typical faggot who takes it personally when someone says something negative about a product you like or own. I wonder what happens when someone says something bad about you? lol. People with tiny dicks make me laugh.

>>28623208
Mom CCs a Sig p238, really nice gun

>>28623208
I'm not 21 yet

>>28629924
much appreciated

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>>28629924
Also in addition to the thanks for the info, >>28630450

I'm 6' 4 and 225 pounds and wear 34 inch waist jeans/pants so probably a lot like that guy except slightly different build just a little so it would probably work out just as well. I will just try and see.

>>28629999
>into something he thinks sucks
There's the rub.

The difference between poorfags and richfags is that poorfags *think* something, and richfags say "hmm, let me see if shit they're saying is true", buy the thing, test the thing, and make their own conclusion. Then yes, they may agree, having first fucking hand experience with it and not guessing.

Also note, fiddling with something for five minutes, or even firing a couple of hundred rounds through the rental, doesn't count. You have to have prolonged, sustained experience with anything to be eligible to judge it.

STFU, buy one, and come back enlightened.

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Because the shield and glock 19 exists.

>>28626523
At least you don't have to register long guns in Canada

>>28629732
>I own a p938, it has never ftf, the trigger is good with a clean break around 5lbs

Well now I know this is bullshit since the trigger pull is rated for 7.5-8lbs. I like the P938, the trigger is heavy but very crisp, but you sound like a shilling cocksucker.

>>28631084
Is it that important? I too wish that the trigger was lighter - but once in a while, my finger jerks spontaneously - and the shot is fired prematurely.

It all depends on how well you're trained. People shoot just fine with much heavier DAO.

>>28631131
Not really, the trigger is short and crisp so the weight doesn't matter as much. I'm just pointing out that anon is lying out his ass if he says the trigger breaks at 5lbs like a normal 1911.

>>28631131
the point is that the other guy is an idiot.

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>>28623232
What you should know for it being a first handgun is you are supposed to carry 1911 style handguns cocked & locked. (One in the chamber, with the hammer cocked back). It intimidates alot of first time gun operators.

>>28631512
Condition 3 is also an option. Until you get used to the fact that the safety doesn't release by itself. Or get shot for not being fast enough to rack the slide.

I hate safeties on carry guns, and it's too "nice" to get scuffed up every day. I like my carry gun to be like a beater car, usable yet reliable and something you don't mind getting banged up.

>>28631593

It's an option, but it's a stupid option.

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>>28631593

refer to

>>28631627

>>28631757

Fuck off faget. I carry my P938 without one in the chamber, with no magazine inserted, and locked inside a hard case. I also have the ammunition unloaded from the mag and the mag and loose ammo locked up separately as well. At least until I get used to the fact that the safety doesn't release by itself.

>>28623208
My EDC is a P238, but on my last range trip I had light primer strikes every single time I pulled the trigger. Scared me shitless because I'd been carrying what was more or less a small paperweight for weeks since my last time shooting.

I'm 99% sure it's because I overlubed it, I stripped the thing down and found the firing pin channel full of gunk. Cleaned it thoroughly, haven't had the chance to test it again yet. It's almost definitely my fault, but I don't know how much I trust it after that scare.

So yeah, word of warning to all the P938 owners. Fucking detail strip and clean out your firing pin channel now and then.

>>28631974
>So yeah, word of warning to all the P938 owners. Fucking detail strip and clean out your firing pin channel now and then.

No you retard. Next time don't overlube it like a tard. You actually lubed the firing pin, didn't you?

>>28632088
I actually didn't, but I'm sure some dripped in there and gummed up. I was scrubbing the fuck out of the chamber with more CLP than needed, and then wiped out the excess afterward.

Whatever, live and learn.

>>28631151
Shoot more, nogunz gun-renting faggot.
I bet your safety lever is still stiff too.
>what is tuning your gun for performance
I bet you've never even done a complete takedown...

>>28624102
>Because I have a P228.

grail

>>28624174
@ what distance?

>>28631593

>not carrying cocked and locked

GET THE FUCK OUT

SHIT ADVICE

SHIT POSTER

>>28623349
>>28623315

If they made a p239 with just a 2 finger grip I would be all over that, even if it did only have 6 rounds. But I don't see much point in carrying a p239 when it's overall height is greater than Glock 19 and grip is almost as thick. I'll take the 15 rounds over 8.

>>28623622

How so, I am also looking a p2000, does something make it hard to conceal?

>>28632657
15ft. Yeah, I know, not much. Just started shooting not a month ago, though.

>>28623208
>Why don't you have one?

Because they haven't made a Legion edition of it yet

>>28632953
looking good, stick with it Anon

>>28632953
why did you get a sub-compact for your first pistol?

>>28633044
Because of the primary purpose of it being a CC gun. Old fudds that have gone through Vietnam and Iraq said this: "you need to learn to shoot the gun you carry". 938 is a good compromise.

I shot a few other guns as well before buying it, and gotta tell that this one feels very good to shoot in comparison to bigger ones - I didn't expect it to be this comfortable. Grows on me as I keep training, too.

I'm a tiny manlet and needed something smaller. I have a P238.

>>28635175
Nothing wrong with P238. Even more pleasant to shoot.

>>28623348
>$400 on sale. NIB
$400... Maybe from the back of Leroy's van after the local gun shop was robbed.

>>28627524
I held one at academy the other day. Super light and slim. But goddam it was expensive. Seems like a fun niche gun at 350ish dollars. But the browning logo almost doubles the price apparently

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>>28624174
Mirin' game brah.

>>28623389
>was never able to sell them
If it was manufactured pre-2003, don't buy it! Sig worked out the issues with the 938s FTF early 2003.

>>28623811
So cheaper companies shit. Okay cheapo

>>28623900
>>28623943

Kek

>>28623961
You were too cheap on the carry gun that is meant to protect your life... unless that piece of shit kahr is just a range toy.

>>28624294
Para ordnance is legit as fuck. They have features that people go out ofnthwir way to look for in 1911s, the reason peope look for older para models is because those features were standard and with time they learned to put them on their higher end models. A la awesome feedramp. Implying a company that makes 1911s and nothing but 1911s is bad. Implying a company that actually improved/innovated on the 1911 design is bad.

>>28624298
So .40 is the same as 10mm, you fucktarded jackass go away you probably carry a makarov and are about to defend 9x18 next.

>>28624485
Thank you.

>>28624516
Compared to what other 1911s, ruger which is new shit, or "springfield armory"

>>28624607
That sounds all wrong tf nigga check your sources before you make a fool out of yourself with real people.

>>28623208
I cant afford one

>>28623208
When "what if" Colt and Sig has bastard child and creates this awesome hardware.

>>28623208
Im not 21.

>>28637648
Save up the money. Surely you know how to save money.

>>28637697
Not sure about where you live but you only have to be 21 by federal law to purchase from a dealer. Missouri it is 18 to buy a handgun from a private sale. You only have to be 19 to get your concealed carry here. Some states want you to be 21 because some states are just shitty with their gun laws.

>>28624594
It's too late though - they cornered the singlestack market and everything else is 2nd place (except, of course, the objectively superior P938)

You're a glockfag, right? hell you have to use this argument all the time to defend it

>>28624635
only people who have ever bitched about the P938 have bought the SAS version

The fuck could be so wrong with that thing?

>>28636622
Bakit nakek ka? Mayroon bang nakakatawa sa iyo? Bastos kang tao talaga.

>>28624664
you haven't shot a lot of guns, have you?

>>28623208
>p938

i dont want to have to flick off a safety to shoot.

if you're in a george zimmerman situation, you need to be able to pull and just shoot with no extra steps

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>>28638476

>>28623208
I'll buy a Sig when I can afford a 550 and a nice scope.

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SUCK MY TIIIIITS

>>28636835
Compared to the average price of handguns in general

>>28638476
The safety is in such a place that you can rest your thumb on it when shooting, you wouldn't get a slide bite. So, draw, flick off, shoot in one movement.

>>28638580
10/10 would carry

>>28623208
I have a Glock 43 with custom kydex holster that I bought a month ago for less than half of what a P938 costs.

It just didnt fit my hands, or moreso it didnt fit my long fucking fingers so if felt awkward to hold.

Otherwise, I just hate the small capacity.

>>28624298
No, you fucking wouldn't

The volume of the case has an effect on how the powder burns. That empty space is there for a reason.

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>>28624298
I mean, if you want to nearly double max recommended load.. do share your experiences. I used to load very hot (maybe 130% max listed load on a few calibers) but backed off when I started seeing damage to my guns. I'd share my data if I knew some bastard now short some fingers wouldn't sue me.