>implying anyone uses IRC
#MEG on Freenode
If you're on mobile look up AndroIRC for the app. Any questions, ask in the thread to get you set up.
For Ranger info, obviously.
All around SOF website. Great info and run by former/active members of every SOF unit. Mentor program. Also has forums for international SOF.
For all Army SF info.
For Navy Corpsman info.
This is an all-inclusive thread for MARSOC/Force Recon stuff. Good site for Marines info too.
For Coast Guard info. Good site, lots of vets able to answer questions.
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Which branch are you enlisting/enlisted/considering?
Ask questions, answer questions, bitch about Air Force recruiters, accuse each other of stolen valor. Just keep it contained to this general you cocks.
From previous thread: Anyone know much about PJ selection? There's a lot of info out there on the 18 series but I can't find much about PJ. I'm know what my PT goals are before I enlist, anything specific I should be preparing for mentally? Books to read? Mental skills to develop like land nav?
I want to join the muhreens to shoot sandpeople and enjoy the thrill of almost becoming a wounded warriors member for life.
I want to shoot things innadesert, but it's peacetime and realistically I'm going to go to some boring college for some boring job in the lame medical field wasting my life away at the range.
Help me decide my future fellow degenerates
Thats the thing though, im actually pretty adaptable.
they thought i wouldnt be good at making friends, but for fucks sake, i was chatting to half the room of recruits for the Assessment day.
talking about farming and just day to day livestock keeping.
Why bitch about the AF recruiters? Army is 1 call per week except holidays. Muhreen added me on fb. Navy showed up randomly at my door on two different Saturdays. National Guard frequently sends mail. AF called me only once and told me he would not continue contact me unless I asked him to.
Anything I should know about increasing my chances of having a 0331 MOS in the marines?
I understand you'll need a GT score of atleast 80, but I'm not sure about the specifics.
Should I "study" anything, or just ask my recruiter and request this specifically?
I wanna into heavy weapons
and they still thought you didn't make friends? Sheeeeit. Are you gonna fight your case at least?
Up to you, but as long as it's not on record, then it never happened.
How bad does being an 18D suck? Or being an army medic in general? I've been planning on enlisting for a while, and recently I've been thinking about going medic. I've done "unofficial healthcare" in the past, and always done well, but I've never had someone's life in my hands. Obviously being a medic is fucking stressful, but is it something that's consistently regretted?
jesus, they must have thought i was some retarded frog poster
We had a pretty good Medic thread going the other day, if anyone has questions about 68W I'd be down to lay down some knowledge.
Been a Medic for 7 years, Platoon Medic with a rifle company for 2 and Co senior for 4. Working at a hospital now waiting on word from IPAP.
i remember that, i was curious about the whole PA thing. i had no idea it was a job. but is it more competitive to get in than even med school? thats what someone said there iirc
You can get an infantry contract, but that only guarantees you'll be an Infantryman.
Your MOS won't be decided until SOI ITB. You'll be approached by the 0331 instructors (as well as all weapons platoon instructors).
Hell ask for volunteers and will have a number of slots to meet his quota, or the corps quota actually.
If not enough people volunteer they'll start pulling people. Too many and he will reject people, mostly by eyeball fucking them. Our 0331 said, "I like em big, and like them dumb." His words not mine.
I don't have the particulars on how competitive it is, I do know that they put a lot of weight into your SAT scores. But you don't "need" all pre reqs to apply. They have a kind of prep program for those who haven't completed all the pre reqs. I'm pretty sure USUHS (Military Medical School) is more selective though.
I have applied twice. My first time I had a combined GPA in the science pre reqs of 3.5. I didnt get in and retook my chemistry classes and bumped my GPA up to a 3.7. That's the only place I was really lacking so I'll find out if it was enough in a couple months.
Well, that was fuckin' dumb. But most likely no, recruiters tend not to do that type of shit because they don't care about what you've done or will do. Only that they can have your signature. If ever brought up deny and say it was a joke taken wrong.
It won't hurt your chances.
From my experience they take volunteers. Then they might check their scores to make sure they are qualified enough.
Not enough people volunteered for 0351 and I was going to be voluntold I was going to be one because my GT was in the 120's, but then someone volunteered last second.
They want to allow the people who volunteer to get the slots if possible, because they're the ones that actually want to do it.
Just sound off and be very motarded when he asks for volunteers (you'll learn how to do that in boot camp).
Have fun falling out of hikes carrying that extra shit as 0311's yell "hang in there man" as SSgt. Roid Rage chases you "out of his formation!!".
>be 280ish (depends on the day, never dips below 275) on APFT
>89 on ASVAB
>want to deploy for reasons that aren't killin sandniggers
>don't want to work with dumb fucking 11b's
>recruiter says 11x is the way to go
>seriously doubt I'll pass selection because I'm 19
Would you recommend medic to an untrained someone who's had a very private practice for a while? I'm a little worried about having to actually learn medicine. I mean, I'm willing to do so, of course, but I've been doing my own version of things for some time. I'm afraid I'll accidently go Dr Nick in the field.
cut my time from several minutes to 12 seconds in the three months, I'm not complaining. FIT has a new Senior Chief who is a total cunt and doesn't like to give people an additional last try, my friend failed it by one second and she sepped him that day. It is what it is.
I went Infantry with a 96 percentile
>inb4 proofs, this was 9 years ago
There are intellectual in the Infantry. Granted, its the minority and there are plenty off dumbasses. It's just a pussy ass excuse from a pseudo-intellectual who thinks he's too smart blah blah.
Just join and if you really are smart and hotshit get meritoriously promoted, and become king of the dipshits.
I played D&D with 6 other guys in my infantry unit, including doc. Stereotypes are a bitch.
If you have never been arrested/ticketed for marijuana possession, then in the eyes of the government your pot cherry remains intact. Keep your bong hole shut about it, and you can still serve your country by painting rocks.
Bro, I am aware. I wasn't saying he should go infantry because he's a retard, just that he's probably a retard.
My asvab is in the 86th percentile, but all of my line scores are 121 or higher. I've got an erb around here somewhere. I've only met one other dudes with 120s or higher but his were 130s and higher.
hey there :^) i missed you guys.
finally left boot camp today. Graduation date was november 20th, got sepped December 14th.
Gonna be able to come back as soon as I pass a mock PFA, I'll be able to get ASMO'd in a senior div that is battlestations hold when I ship out ayy lmao
hope you've been good friend
Sorry! It's probably just me that's retarded. I've done medical work for friends and family who either can't or don't want to go to a real medical professional for a few years now. In-home nursing, wound-care, simple stuff like that. But I've never been formally trained, and I'm used to doing things as supplies and skill allow, meaning sometimes what I do is not necessarily what a doctor would do.
I'm worried that even after formal training, I might lapse into my fucky version of medicine and hurt someone. And I've never really dealt with life-threatening injury before, and the thought freaks me out, but I love what I do. I'm a good nurse (and doctor sometimes). And since I'm joining the military anyways, I thought maybe I could be a medic.
I guess I didn't really have a question, just needed to get my thoughts out in the open. But if you thoughts on it, I'd like to hear 'em.
Tl;Dr, backdoor doctor/nurse wonders if he should be a medic
I don't think I'm too smart, I think if a motherfucker is shooting at me the motherfuckers I'm relying on to help me not get shot and shoot that motherfucker better not be dumb motherfuckers.
11x (w/ opt 40 I assume) is Ranger says recruitertard
18x I thought was SF and even if I could try I wouldn't because there's no way I can stack up to those dudes
Yeah, my GT is 189
One of my best friends was an asvab waiver (I joined during the surge, I guess they did that back then). He was sharp as shit, fast tracked to promotion.
Just because a mother fucker doesn't know high school algebra doesn't mean anything really. Which is a decent portion of asvab score iirc.
I still tell him to use his GI Bill, but he says he is "too stupid for college". I tell him it's his attitude.
I just think that anons excuse is a piss poor one. Real life isn't 4chan memes. BTW I never polished any rocks... I sincerely hope they don't make army grunts do that. We did have to clean the barracks all day, but I know for a fact pogs do that + worse shit also.
>Yeah, my GT is 189
That doesn't seem right but I don't know enough about the ASVAB to dispute it.
Didn't realize I'd convinced you. Glas I did though dude. Make sure you check out armyranger.com they used to have mentorship and shit.
I have to be at the hospital in 6 hours, I'll be bac kk tomorrow fellas.
I'm not 100% on that to be totally honest but paragraph comp. and word knowledge are both 65, arithmetic reasoning 59. Should probably be a linguist but that sounds boring as fuck.
Hey brosef, another 68W Op 40. My recruiter said I could have it once I got some tattoos removed(about 6 months). Hows PT coming along? You doin any other prep? Land nav and shit, etc
You were airborne, if I remember correct? I've heard Airborne is a breeze compared to the past. No disrespect intended
>I think he likes you.
Ah fuck I'm dying
God it's not even that funny
Welcome back you fucking squid.
I'm a forma muhreen who lurks these threads, they serve a purpose for containment.
Just 1 note. During Marine week at MCRD it took a day or 2 to not start my sentence with "This recruit". An officer corrected me as he was inspecting my rifle. "Recruit, or Marine?"
You can keep your trip because it identifies you and your history with these threads. Just your name has DEP in it, and your an actual sailorfag. Food for thought, consider a name change, at least if you post outside /meg/.
Like regular OCS
it's hard as fuck and the postings you get are left over from West Point and ROTC, so top of the class gets first pick.
>tfw there's probably a total of 10 people who are regulars on /meg/ and the rest are autistic "im 190 kg and i can run 20 minute mile, can i be Marine Raider?" and "going off to MEPS, hope they dont find out about my xanax abuse"
There's a book called becoming the iceman that I see recommended a lot for PJ candidates. Swim a shitload, the main washout point is water confidence. You will be swimming a LOT and if you can hold your breath for a long time and swim well before you go will have an easier time. Also, you should be able to max out your PT before you get there because I believe the standard for graduating PJs is something insane like an 11 minute 2 mile or something.
Right now my PT is decent, def not where I want it to be. My run is crap.
I didn't even think of Land Nav. Damn I should learn some basics.
How about you? Where are you located?
Will do, danke.
Water support technician is a pretty good job. You are more likely to be deployed than actual infantry because obviously water is pretty fucking important to FOBs in the desert. It's like motor-t where they frequently end up doing infantry stuff in self defense more than the actual infantry do.
>posting that wrestler fag from that God awful movie
Vets come out of the woods to give advice, or post about our favorite MRE's.
I know what you're saying tho, "what's it like being in the infantry".
Couldn't be any more vague. Nigro I don't have time to right a book, be more specific.
Kek, I'm always the one recommending it.
It really is a great book and I learned a lot from it, not just about mediation either.
Adding to him: What you want is as much water confidence as possible,so swim and keep swimming. Look up a book called Total Immersion for Olympic techniques. Also, get used to the cold. Because the cadre will make sure you're cold all the time. I hear they spray you with cold water in the wee ours of the morning and then make you administer an IV.
Oh thanks man, I appreciate it.
Have some Katy.
Why do the spots matter so much? I would be happy just being a 2nd Lt.
>Ask recruiter about ROTC
>Says i have a better chance of getting contracted if im prior enlisted and get in better shape
>2 years later
>highest PT score was 234 during my peak at AIT
>School and Life getting in the way of working out and getting weaker at pushups for some reason
>did PT test last October
>Didnt pass tape
>Begin Paperwork at ROTC in Uni
>CPT chad sees me
>ROTC recruiter returns and tells me he thinks im out of shape
>get depressed since ive been dieting and working out
I just wanted to be a desk jockey, but i dont know if ill be able to get my PT score without going through basic/ait again...
Also im 5'6 so i guess thats also why CPT chad probably said that too.
The only regulars recently I can keep track of besides Ricky are me and that guy that spams angry pepe. I assume the 68w guy lurks but hasn't had a reason to identify himself in a while.
I talked to a recruiter for a 25 U MOS with a 20k enlistment bonus. I also am interested in the Navy but for IT or Intelligence. But they have no bonus enlistment. I've been told the Navy is better to join because quality of life and more traveling. What should I do?
go 0341 man. so much better. I was an 0341 but was a 240 gunner within the platoon. I still got to fuck with the 50 and mk 19 being in wpns company all the time. 0341 is skate as fuck and less retards. Youll have fun playing xbox in the barracks as you watch the machine gunners in the line platoons do gun drills all day.....also much less hazing.
What? I thought being a gloryhound was somewhat looked down upon.
I just wanted something stable.
>oh, nevermind, thats alright, carry on.
Hey someones gotta do the paperwork.
Nah, butterbars are looked down upon a bit more that some mototard screaming "HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH" in the strip club at the top of his lungs.
I'm not saying your fake, just wrong.
0331's machina gunz 0341 mortarnigz and 0351 assmen were all in a weapons platoon. You wouldn't of been an 0341 who was in weapons platoon while machine gunners were put in a line.
We did fold weapons into line platoons in some deployments, but it was all or none.
More likely you were an 11C instead of an 11b and are ignorant of what you're talking about when it comes to the other branch.
Very helpful. Yea I grew up in water, never really had any problems or fear, other than getting dragged into a pier or jetty thinking them to be covering in razor sharp barnacles that would literally slice me into bits. But I think that had more to do with the warning signs. I've always had a weird fascination with warning signs.
My underwater breath time is 25M(to one side of the pool) though it gets very hard toward the end.
>Kek, I'm always the one recommending it.
I knew that name looked familiar. Downloading it now. If only my kindle worked. I'll definitely check out the Total Immersion, thanks brosef
Heard of it. Thought you were ghosts because never seen one do anything.
Even when I was in the Helmand province. Anyway you hit your unit out of luck or lack of, like all of us.
My unit was good but a lot of bullshit, I always thought of writing a book, "The lance corporals guide to sk8ing: how to be lance coolie sk8er".
I did my job, but avoided the bullshit.
We had the most volitle battle-space in our battalion AO. We also cleared our battlespace in the span of 2 weeks while the line companies were doing god knows what. Though to be fair our line companies were made up of misfits that the other battalions wanted to get rid of. I've been out for a while so I dont know what the corps is doing these days. The kids with the higher GT scores will go straight to 81's over 60's when they hit the fleet. 0331's I have no idea. Maybe they have a pull up contest to see who gets into CAAT.
do you actually get psychos in your respective military forces?
guys who you think "given the chance they would probably blow up that whole village
men with seemingly no fear of enemy fire and loose interpretation of the phrase "combat aged male"
anyone have stories?
Got 85 on my asvab, going muhreens. I changed country to join military (born here though), and become sof,seriously doubting if i should do intel and a lat move to Marsoc or get recon contract (hz) and fucking blow take the shot since i got 6 months till ship to boot camp
going from grunt to raider would be more advantageous IMO. Intel really doesnt have much applicable to the raider community on the team level. Youd have more tools in your toolbox coming from a grunt background.
make sure you can run
make sure you can swim
>The kids with the higher GT scores will go straight to 81's over 60's when they hit the fleet
All of my what?
You don't have to tell me about being on enemy lines. They say "being at the tip of the spear" is a marine meme, but no other force was as far south in trashcanland as we were. Even the flyboys avoided that area.
what is so hard to understand? If you a higher GT score you'll be placed in 81's. Not only is that how my battalion did it but its how 3/2 and 1/6 did it.
My second deployment the only guys south of us were ODA. They would gas up at our PB and head down there. Maybe we were in the same area.
Whats up with 18x dudes and grooming standards? Are they allowed lax on the beard/hair simply because they're warrior diplomats and are out in the field for extended periods of time? Or just cause they're cool as fuck and not "Big Army"
81mm Mortar platoon.
I talked to a recruiter for a 25 U MOS with a 20k enlistment bonus. I also am interested in the Navy but for IT or Intelligence. But they have no bonus enlistment. I've been told the Navy is better to join because quality of life and more traveling. What should I do?
> Be me
> Been in love with submarines ever since I was a small child and got the opportunity to explore an old decommissioned one at a science exhibit.
> Never even imagine that I could ever make the cut for the armed forces because scrawny nerd.
> Start gaining weight.
> Start working out to lose weight.
> Keep working out because it's a routine you get into.
> Start seriously considering it.
> Look it up.
> All I need to do is be highly physically fit (work in progress), and know basic electronic and mechanical science to qualify, and they'll deck you out with all the training you'll need to work on a submarine.
This is kind of blowing my mind, I doubled my workout routine today after I found this out, think I'll keep it this way. Like, damn.
Oh motherfucker you are going to fucking regret being put on a submarine. I have a friend who used to be stationed on one of those fucking things, and he was constantly depressed and did nothing but get drunk off his ass on leave. Had paranoia and other constant mental issues as well. Said it was the most nerve wracking, awful experience of his life.
Alright, /k/, i'm a fucking idiot. How the fuck do I determine my GT score? Is it based off of the percentile I scored in? If that, it's just me adding up my AR, WK and PC, right?
Just want to be sure because I want an infantry MOS and want to make sure I can get one.
It's like a claustrophobia thing, right? See, the way I grew up, I'm actually way more comfortable in tight places than wide open ones.
I can imagine that you can get pretty sick of other people after a while though, no real way around that.
I am shipping out to Ft. Jackson this Sunday and I would like to know if there are any anons here who have served/are serving that can tell me what to expect at Reception, is it the same kinda mind games that were played at MEPS?
I lurk/post here every day now, and I really don't fucking know why.
Maybe I'm trying to figure out which branch/MOS is right for me.
Maybe I'm more enthralled by the "idea" of being in the military than actually being in the military.
Either way I enjoy my time here, for some reason.
From everything I've read from guys in these threads, the jobs I'm looking at are all challenging. However, they each offer a completely different lifestyle post military and that's a pretty huge decision (in my opinion) to have to make.
>I lurk/post here every day now, and I really don't fucking know why.
i just like the Banter, and it's nice helping some people out with their life choices, or telling dumbfucks that they are indeed dumbfucks
A lot of hurry up and wait. You'll be mostly taking a shit ton of vaccinations, have your blood taken out, signing a shit ton of papers, buying shit you don't need, eating and getting fat and getting a haircut or two.
Make sure you get a lot sleep before you ship out cause when you arrive you won't be sleeping for 48 hours.
So you want to join Infantry!
Good choice, but there are many different roles of infantry for your CO to choose for you to do.
Now this is where the creme of the crop of PT studs and smart dudes end up.
it's a great responsibility and only the select many are chosen to uphold this responsibility!
Remember, keep off the grass when the SgtMaj. is around.
Not as glamourous and shiny as the rock sweeping MOS but it has it's charm
Much like any other Infantry job, this job involves being "directed" (read; screamed at) by some of the meanest DS's the Military has to offer!
With hands on experience with "real world hydroponics", you'll be sweeping grass like a Ranger in no time!
>What are the requirements of completing Basic?
- A new car bought with that sweet E-1 money
- A new wife who is a former "exotic dancer" you met while on your weekend liberty
- being able to carry your fat ass bunkmate across an open parade ground with no stops
Enjoy your experience in the Armed Forces!
And remember, dont kill yourself
Well if that's the case, maybe I should drop the joke that FSTP is, and just catch up on my rest and moving my stuff. Seriously, I haven't learned a damn thing showing up; I taught myself everything I learned so far through internet and books, not through this stupid program.
Bearded SF comes and goes with where they're getting deployed. SF's primary mission is to train local forces. Local forces in all the shitholes we've invaded lately will not respect a beardless man.
>tfw got nuke drafted for service selection in October
>tfw have my interview with the admiral in March
>tfw Comp Sci major so forgot all physics and calc stuff b/c "never gonna use it"
>tfw in less than 2 years I'll be aboard a sub
just fuck my shit up.
At least I got free college out of it
this was me for about a month
>originally thinking air force
>air force recruiter sucks
>try army recruiter
>she's ghetto and stupid
>go to different army recruiter
>still post and lurk in every thread
>will probably start using a trip after basic
Here's a basic bitch question.
Is the military a good way to learn a skill to apply to a civilian career or is it pretty much to just get your college paid for? Are there any jobs that will ensure you're set up outside of the mil?
i have friends, i've even convinced a few to visit here. i'm old, so a lot of my friends have already done the mil thing. they're probably the ones saying don't do it, or explaining the difference between jobs or about basic life.
well, im just young and i like to learn what i can while im here
i lurk mostly though, but i contribute where i can
got no close friends unfortunately
You can't possibly plan for post military life until you're in it. Experiences will help you find what you want. Just decide which seems the most exciting path and start walking. There will be dozens of branches and the only bad ones involve negligent and stupid decisions and law breaking.
Which job is better:
navy nuke on a carrier/sub
navy pilot/flight officer if my eyes aren't good enough
air force pilot/flight officer or whatever they have
cryptologic technician/linguist(for chinese)
It's new , but basically it's a fancy loadmaster, far as I can recall. Take a 1N job. Or special duty. Aircrew work in general kinda sucks shit. Super low retention for a reason.
I know it's aerial gunner mixed with loadmaster and flight engineer so that sounds pretty cool. I'm taking a retrain class tomorrow and currently there's no restrictions on it.
I mean aircrew sounds awesome, how could it be bad? You're every day job is to fly. I'm not trying to be funny, what's so bad about it?
11x w/opt 40 is for Ranger batt, but to you definitely don't meet age reqs for 18x. Unless you're about to turn 20.
I've never personally seen a GT higher than 142, or heard of anything over 150.
I don't know though.
If it's something you enjoy I guess go for it.
You should realize that it's a really stupid thing you do, in my opinion.
If you work outside the scope that your BN PA allows you to work yo I will lose your credentials, and could face imprisonment depending on the circumstances.
I don't really expect you'll stop what you're doing, and the fact that you do it doesn't really speak to your discipline/self control. Join if you want, but just realize that you'll be working for a licensed provider who had to answer to an MD, if you fuck him up they will fuck you up.
Yeah they use those. If you have a degree and you're GPA is good you may want to consider applying for civilian programs, the 2 years of IPAP are fucking intense. In that time you complete your bachelor's and earn a masters. Apply for civil programs and contact an AMEDD Recruiter after you graduate. Unless you have your heart set on being a Medic first.
I dropped it all to go home and get some poon because I'm an idiot. Don't do what I did. I got sent world wide and wound up in korea. Made it to drum after that though and fucking loved it.
The both of you need to start rucking, yo uh can get a used ALICE for cheap. I live rucking. Start deadlifting too. If you're gonna make it in any Infantry battalion, especially regiment, you need to be able to Outlook everyone of your guys.
You don't need to be the strongest or the fastest, but you have to be the highest effort. I wish I would have kept the stuff I posted the other day, but when I'm not on my phone I'll give you guys some good work out guidelines.
As you said, your job is to fly everyday. 12+ hours is bad in a regular office, not to mention a cramped, dry and uncomfortable plane. Granted I'm not in a 1A, but I was going to be(1A8). Nothing but bad stories during training and from friends in it now.
Again, some of the lowest retention rates in the entire AF.
>I don't really expect you'll stop what you're doing, and the fact that you do it doesn't really speak to your discipline/self control.
Well, it's not really a self control thing. The area I live in, we only have a few doctors, and it's quite expensive. I just kinda got roped into doing it for family at a young age, then just continued (it's been five, maybe six years). I never do anything I know I can't do. I've never hurt anyone (well, more than they were hurt before), and I don't accept direct payment (usually in the form of delicious baked goods).
Thank you for your thoughts, though. I've never wanted to be a civilian nurse or doctor, ever, but I feel I may be useful as a combat medic. But like I said, I don't want to hurt anyone, and I damn well don't want to go to prison.
I'll research protocol, and take some med classes. Then I'll see how well I retain it, or if I have difficulty applying them.
I'm glad you didn't take that negatively, obviously your situation is different than my own, so the concept is pretty foreign to me. I've had tricare all my life. Never paid a cent for the doctor. So I understand we have very different experiences.
On my first deployment my Senior Medic decided he should do a chrich on a guy that didn't really need it. It's a basic skill that we all learn, but there was no reason to do it. The bird arrived shortly after he placed the ET tube apparently. He did a hack job. Wrecked this dudes Chrichoid cartilage, but the guy survived. The patient had no contraindications for a King LT. He was just unable to maintain his own airway due to hypovolemic shock. Breathing was rapid and shallow, didn't need anything but an airway and a BVM.
When the patient arrived at the BAS the PROFIS Doctor flipped the fuck out. He was put on the patient admin desk for the rest of the deployment, and was demoted and force reclassed a few months after we got back. It shook me because I went from a new SPC with 19 months of service and an experienced senior in charge of me to the Company Senior in about 8 hours. So I've been a really big stickler for doing the right thing for your patient in a given situation ever since.
The skills of the job are not difficult, correct application of those skills in a given situation is the part that a lot of medics seem to have.
Give it a go, you are probably working at a much lower level than you would be as a line medic caring for 30-40 dudes in a rifle platoon, even in garrison. Get used to seeing dudes for their drippy dicks. As an infantry medic you'll see a lot of drippy dicks in garrison.
There is 68x, but they are all shit bags in my experience. Plus you'll mostly deal with fatties who are trying to get a MEB for landscaping related PTSD before they are chaptered for being fatties.
>There is 68x, but they are all shit bags in my experience. Plus you'll mostly deal with fatties who are trying to get a MEB for landscaping related PTSD before they are chaptered for being fatties.
How about in a different field, not therapy or counseling?
Something like research, product design, training or psyops (Sorry if I used all the wrong terms)
No, no, I asked for your opinion. I'm glad you responded.
We live in a very poor part of a very expensive state. I (and the few others in my area who do this work for their respective families) am the person you go to for minor things, so you don't have to pay a $200 consultation fee, plus whatever they charge for material and labor. It's really become out of hand.
But anyways, that is awful! If I understand correctly (I'm sorry, I don't know a lot of the jargon) he totally wrecked a guy's throat when he only needed a tracheotomy? That's terrible.
See, that's exactly what's making me nervous. I have a few procedures I do, and I (almost) always do them the same way. So when new things get introduced, and there's only a few moments to decide, I'm afraid I'm going to flounder. But at the same time, I feel like, given enough practise, I could be really good at it.
And I've never had to deal with drippy dicks, miraculously, but I HAVE had to open staph sores on people's asses. Nothing like pulling on someone's anus and watching vanilla soft serve crawl out.
So if I win the Green Card lottery can I join the US Army to speed up the naturalization process? Is this a smart way to get into freedom land or am I retarded?
I want to operate. But that's not the point of this post. So we're not going to argue on Wether I can or cant make it.
I'm getting a waiver for my juvenile record.
I currently have a secret security clearance for my current job.
My recruiter said I can't enlist with 18x or option 40 because of my juvenile record and clearance tomfoolery.
He wasn't being completely clear, which brings up this suspicion
He says even though I can't enlist with 18x or option 40, but once I'm in the Army, I can drop the packet and choose to go to one of them.
I figured whatever I'll get 11x option 4 and be a PT stud to increase my odds.
>inb4 be a dirt bag on purpose to be grey man
So is my recruiter just being lazy and not want to do the work to get me 18x or an option 40 or is he right?
He's not pushing me into any other MOSs which is why I think it's legit,
But I'm also wondering if he's just fed up with all the paperwork I've caused him to do for the waiver and he just wants to slam me to MEPS and be done with it all
Not only with service pay your college, but its also networking for life.
Cop pulled you over and sees your veteran plate. He too was a marine or what have you.
If you're lucky the guy interviewing you was also prior service.
Maybe years later someone you served with started a small company and your son needs a job.
Little shit like that.
I'm pretty sure at some point PJs are required to do a 50m down and back without surfacing, just a heads up. I wish you the best of luck, I wanted to be a PJ but decided it was a pipe dream for me. Hoping to become an NFO when I finish college now.
They all have beards recently because we've been in the middle east, where every man has a beard. Any white guy with a large beard is pretty much indistinguishable if they're not just pasty.
People actually do exist who like being on a sub. Someone who has been in love with subs since childhood is probably one of those people.
I thought it was funny
AF aviation would be the cushiest, Navy aviation is still fairly cushy and you have a chance of travelling, linguist is a good job that teaches valuable skills but training is very stressful and difficult and you won't get to pick Chinese, you might be able to state it as a preference but you'll get whatever they want you to learn. Nuke is probably the worst of the 4 but has the best post-mil prospects, assuming you want to keep doing stressful nuke stuff in the civilian world.
I was a water tech, I can tell you he's right. I was hoping to get a relatively cushy job and start a plumbing business when I got out (which I did) but we were getting shot at while maintaining water systems every damn day it felt like. I didn't want to be infantry but that's practically what I got.
It's possible you could get a job as a contracted researcher or something, but you would need at least a masters.
It's a pretty decent way to go about it, but the military won't help you get into the country at all. You have to make it here on your own and then you can join.
I am, just a couple of a months away. I took the ASVAB my junior year though so I'll have to take it again anyway. And I don't think line scores can exceed 150 now that I've done some research so I must be just in the 140-150 range. What are things you would suggest becoming familiar with should I seek one of those MOS's? I've begun reading about land nav though I'm incredibly familiar with it already through hunting in a 1,000 some acre logging plot in northern Wisconsin. I work out regularly and run when it's not subzero, started with Rippetoe's SS 5x5 and moved into creating my routine, very leg oriented in anticipation of running fucking everywhere. Familiar with shooting all sorts of fudd shit and some none fudd shit. I'd like to pick up an AR15 this summer and practice the irons for better marksmanship. And I can pick a lock like a motherfucker, if that would be handy at all.
Any Feb 8th Marine San Diego shippers?
Heading out with a recon contract
>German friend just graduated college and is joining the Federal Police there
>he wants to join GSG9
How do I out-operate this man
How good are the post-mil prospects? Would it improve my prospects that much if I already have an engineering degree? I have a Chinese degree too, so if I went linguist they'd probably let me pick that. How much are the salaries for these jobs? Search results all give different answers and large ranges.
I think there is a way to get grad school paid for if you want to be a scientist for the military in return for service kinda like ROTC, I don't know anything about it though, sorry
Are all you guys looking to be US welfare queens or is a thread for anyone?
Judging by all the replies seems almost entirely american but thats not surprising
Nuke (ET especially) has good prospects for doing the same work in the civilian world, ESPECIALLY if you have a degree already, because without a degree you're still just a technician. ET has the best prospects because they're the ones that actually run the reactor and that's a big bucks job, but doing it in the civilian world is almost like not leaving the Navy, ie still stressful and long hours. You would think they would let you pick Chinese since you have a degree, but I promise they won't. They will give you whatever they feel like, regardless of whether you are a native speaker of something they want. It's pretty dumb, but what can you do. The pay for both is higher than base pay but not a huge amount. Somewhere in the range of $100-200 extra per month, and sub nukes get sub pay on top, and airborne linguists get flight duty pay. The biggest source of extra pay is the fact that both of those fields promote quickly- if you sign over 2 more years during nuke power school, you will already be a petty officer when you reach your first real assignment. Of course, if you don't do that, it can be harder to promote as a nuke because those guys take all/most of the billets.
Well the majority of people on 4chan are from the US but this thread is for anyone from any country. We get a decent number of Australians, Canadians and Brits and sometimes someone from Germany or a random eastern European country. Might be hard to get information though since most of the thread is American.
I worked with some Corpsman from 3/5 when I was stationed in korea for a CALFX. My only experience with Navy Corpsman. The two I had the most contact with were monsters. I know nothing about SARC, sorry bud.
Looks like you have everything under control. Don't bother trying to teach yourself irons. Just go to basic and let them teach you, better than having to unlearn bad habits.
Don't think anyone gives a shit if you can pick a lock though super soldier.
It's not hard, but it's not necessarily easy either. Definitely easier than marines and army boot camp, hardest thing for most people was being so isolated from their loved ones and the outside world.
Not really, no. They pick it for you at random, which is determined on what division you'll be put in during P-Days and whichever ship has an opening for a divison. You find out what ship you're going to on P-5.
If you're a male you can go to any of the ships, if female only three of them are off limits to you. If spec ops/warfare then you'll be going to the Arleigh Burke, that's where the 800 divs go.
Hey guys weigh in for me:
So I switched my papers from the Army to the Navy. I have one nut and some facial scarring that I would need to get a waiver for. So I submitted my faggot ass medical packet to the Navy doctors like a week or two before Christmas. Still haven't heard shit. My recruiter is an African dude with a really thick accent and idk if he really knows whats going on. I keep asking him about whether he's heard anything, does it usually take this long, etc. He said he doesn't know and hasn't heard anything.
Should I keep waiting for the Navy to get back to me in like 3 years time or should I call up the Army recruiter and see about switching all my paperwork? I mean I'm usually very patient but all this waiting is just pushing back my ship date and thats getting me anxious.
Is this wait time normal? Is the Army usually more forgiving and quicker about these things?
waivers take some time, took me six months to finally go to meps after trying to get three waivers, the fact that it's during the holidays isn't helping either. Keep contact with your recruiter, that's as much as you can do.
Poorfag here. I have a government-sponsored scholarship for college that pays for roughly 80% of my college tuition. However, I don't have the ability to pay for the rest of the tuition and other expenses. I already work a job and a freelance thing on the side, but it doesn't seem like it's enough. I don't want to take out any student loans, would joining the Nat'l Guard be a good option for me to help pay for college?
>I'm about to finish my bachelor in EE and been thinking about becoming an officer in the navy. Anyone got some experiences/stories or warnings?
Firstly, for money. You will probably not be a lifer. You'll be in for four to six years and then you'll get out. You will be "behind" in your earnings for the rest of your life. Don't listen to your recruiter, very few jobs actually care that you went into the service instead of the workforce. You'll be getting entry-level jobs while your age-group peers will already be working on getting their first large-scale project leads.
Secondly, the jobs you get. You, for all intents and purposes, will have no say where you are billeted. Annapolis grads (who are convinced they are some sort of aristocracy) get first dibs, then ROTC kids (who are just about the biggest cluster of fuckups imaginable) and then OCS grads.
You may get an engineering duty, but more likely than not, you will end up in the Staff Corps.
(Also, no one cares about your degree. They will put you in the Staff Corps anyway.)
Thirdly, being an officer sucks. You're not a leader. Petty officers and warrant officers are leaders. You, a commissioned officer, are a manager. You push papers. You attend meetings and stare at PowerPoints, then you make PowerPoints based on what you saw at those meetings and attend other meetings.
If you want a better military experience, enlist in a field you actually love. Enlisting with a degree is actually very common.
Otherwise, just get a real job.
What should I strive for if I want to join the Navy? Before/during/after.
Any fellow Britbongs able to advise for the Submarine Warfare Officer role?
I was looking at Surface, but they seem to be pushing strong for more submariners.
Supposedly it's a fuckton harder to get into and I've got the AIB sometime this year.
Me? No. I enlisted in the Marines. My best friend from college went to OCS. I got to do exactly what I wanted. He got to be an officer in the Navy Supply Corps. He never even went to sea. The closest he got was a Naval Air Station.
And here he was, telling me I was going to be a dumb grunt. Joke's on him, though. I not only enjoyed my time in the Marines, I was an Arty POG.
Not to be an officer.
Don't get me wrong, the military is great, but I wouldn't take a commission if you gave it to me. It takes a certain kind of person to be an officer in the military, one that is a political animal, a career-driven individual who can swim through a sea of bullshit and find a pearl.
Too many guys I know went in as officers with truly no idea what being an officer was, just that it was something that required an education. (Nor, for that matter, did they have any idea of what leadership is, assuming it's blind obedience and obeisance verging on worship.)
probably out of place here but I've already got my application well underway for the Australian Defence Force. First preference Rifleman, second preference Combat Engineer so im going in to the recruiting offices in a fortnight to do a special test for the Combat Engineer application.
Are there any other aussies on here that have had experience with the ADF?
Hey guys going to MEPs tomorrow to get my PAST lined up for April to qual to be a PJ. I want a couple options in case i fall out during the indoc assuming i can atleast make it a couple weeks in. Where would i go if i was kicked out of indoc?
Also at the end of my contract if i decided to go to the marine corps or army would being in some BS air force field hurt me from going infantry?
Not him, but they don't learn from their NCOs enough. Your basically a private with better pay and more responsibility. Thats what people think of you as a butter bar. Learn from your NCOs and listen to them because enlisted already will generally respect their authority much more than yours.
>What's the best insight to the leadership that Officers have to go through that you can give?
>Where do most of them fuck up?
I think the root of it is that OCS/ROTC/USNA do a shitty job of actually explaining what junior officers do, which is the exact same thing that E-1's are supposed to do: eyes open, mouth shut and learn.
Now, I was never disrespectful to a 2nd Lt, even one that deserved to be taken down a peg or two. (Anyone who tells you they flipped a butterbar off is straight-lying. Butterbars don't know how to lead, but they sure as shit know you're still supposed to salute them. They fucking like it. They look for it more than a Colonel does.)
In many situations, particularly once I made E-6, however, I would pull a new boot loot aside and explain, away from the younger men, of course, that the effective officer leans upon the experience of those in his command and trusts them to do their jobs. Basically, if you're in charge, you don't need to tell anyone you're in charge.
Another mistake they make is assuming their men are stupid simply because a lot of them are uneducated, or not bothering to find out if they, indeed are.
>see boot loot doing PT wearing an Indiana University t-shirt
>be University of Illinois alum
>light-heartedly boo Hoosiers
Are you a fan of the Illini, sergeant?
I sure am, LT.
Are you going to go there when you're out of the Corps? Use that GI Bill money?
No, sir, I've been accepted to a grad program that's a little closer to home.
>boot loot has stupid look on his face
W-what did you graduate with?
A B.S. in Computer Science, sir.
If six 155mm howitzers firing doesn't make your dick move, maybe artillery isn't for you.
The best part:
>Panic over the radio. Grunts are pinned and taking fire. They call us.
>We cum steel 20 miles away.
>Next radio transmission "Nice shooting, gun bunnies."
The bad part:
Your knees: shot
Your back: not as bad as your knees
YOUR HEARING: ZIERING? IAN ZIERING? FROM 90210? FUCK YOU TALKING ABOUT?
Also, Arty, as you might imagine, involves a lot of logistics, and that means a lot of bullshit busywork.
I loved it, though. I would joke, "Oh, we're basically like Scout Snipers, except our gun needs to be flown in by a C-130, takes nine guys to fire, and kills dozens of people at once."
>Yeah they use those. If you have a degree and you're GPA is good you may want to consider applying for civilian programs, the 2 years of IPAP are fucking intense. In that time you complete your bachelor's and earn a masters. Apply for civil programs and contact an AMEDD Recruiter after you graduate. Unless you have your heart set on being a Medic first.
can i laterally transfer from an officer program to whatever you just said?
Forgot to mention.
One of the worst things:
Fort Sill, OK is where Arty School is. It sucks. It's in the middle of nowhere and it's Army, so you're practically subletting.
One of the best things:
First time I got to pull the lanyard on a 155mm, I had this idiotic grin on my face.
Gunnery Sergeant asks me why I'm smiling like a fucking retard.
>Because that was the coolest thing I've ever seen, Gunnery Sergeant!
>You're fucking-a right, Corporal. Ooh rah!
That was the most motivated I've ever been. Fuck, I want to re-enlist right now.
Hey guys. So I'm thinking of enlisting in some branch of the u.s. military. Preferably combat medic like 68w or fmf corpsman.
I talked to the navy recruiter and said that he couldn't guarantee me a spot. This seems to be a lie? Ive heard to never enlist without getting a written contract STATING what job. I assume the same applies to the navy?
Also in general how would I negotiate terms with my recruiter?
With that said how long will it take between signing a contract and getting shipped out to boot
>Join the Navy they said
>Get sent to Okinawa to wash rocks because they have no actual work to do
You can't be guaranteed that.
You can be guaranteed a spot in Hospital Corps A-school.
When you pick your posting, you're basically guranteed greenside, since they're always in need and they're the minority of any class anyway.
However, that's where the guarantees end. You could be assigned to a Scout Sniper platoon or a Motor-T platoon or anything in between.
The Marines will put you where they need a Doc.
What do you mean by that? i put rifleman first due to the fact that ive been told that it provides the best base-level way into the system, and from there i can move to any job relatively easy (or so ive been told) and a few years down the line i intend on applying for Commandos as well.
>Butterbars don't know how to lead, but they sure as shit know you're still supposed to salute them. They fucking like it. They look for it more than a Colonel does.
That might be true in the Marines, but I've seen the exact opposite in the Army. New officers generally go out of their way to dodge salutes. I've actually chewed out a few for it.
>Cop pulled you over and sees your veteran plate. He too was a marine or what have you.
>Cop shows up to call, he's a Muuuhhrrrreeeeennn
>Finds out you were/are Army
>Beats the living shit out of you while screaming "stop resisting" and then throws you in booking
>After the weekend, released, charges dropped
That's kind of a broad question, some good, some bad, some really amazing, some really terrible. Just like anything else.
I've only recently been exposed to MDs in mass at my current duty station. The worst alienate the enlisted, the best go out of their way to teach.
Your best bet is to contact an AMEDD Recruiter and ask them. Sorry bub.
It was a lot better before I started dating my current wife(american) now that I think about it... There was this place in uijeongbu called the black lion bar or something by the theatre.
The bartender there had the sexiest fucking smile. We had sex for about 3 months. Big ass, titties, and the softest skin. We said about 12 words to eachother, but my katusa would help me text her. I brought the katusa to translate for me for our first date, but we agreed it was wierd so I just showed up at the bar and bought beer until closing and then we'd hit her place. Pretty dope.
I did save a lot of money because I was at KTC for 6 of the remaining 8 months. But I didn't get to see my girlfriend a whole lot because she was stationed down at camp Carroll.
Eh, not my jam. I like it in the states. Our generation Koreans are too fucking racist dude. Got in altercations all the time and KSP will fuck you up if they get called and you're there regardless of who is at fault.
Plan going to air force recruiter soon for security forces.
>7 months ago got ticket for minor in possession of alcohol
>failed to meet with my probation officer once
>issued a warrant for me
>recruiter I spoke to before said my MIP was alright
should I tell about the warrant/would it come up on a check?
In part, also, from my perspective they defer way to much to the civilian employees at the hospital. My PA when I was at my precious duty stations TRUSTED me. Taught me loads of shit that is far outside of an EMT-B scope. More so than the stuff we learn at AIT on the Whiskey (combat medic) side of the school house.
The doctors are beholden to joint commission standards for operations at the hospital, which while it isn't a bad thing means that a bunch of civilian equivalent EMT-B medics running around intubating and shit is a no fucking go. The army tried to launch an AEMT program with NREMT but no one wants to recognize it.
The military wastes a fucking shit ton of money at all the hospitals on loads of unnecessary civilian employees we have plenty of trained medical personnel.
I'm going to stop myself there because I'm ranting.
Your doctor recommended you for a chapter? Unless it is a chapter for malingering I call bullshit. That's the only chapter I know of that a provider would have any reason to recommend.
No problem yo.
You probably left already, but w/e.
Do you know anything about Forward Surgical Teams? I was lurking a thread on shadowspear where some guys were talking about Air Force SOST(Special Ops Surgical Teams) and FSTs.
Is this a kind of thing where you drop a packet or something?
Never been on one, from what I understand a FST is just like any regular assignment. Some FST are independent, the majority I would assume are at Charlie med. Charlie med is the second to last place you want to be right behind a hospital. Hope that helps.
Ausfag here, anyone know about joining the ADF, I am in year 11, I plan to join after my gap year. My estimated ATAR score wil be roughly 85. Also anyone know a good way to break the news to my parents I won't be going to uni ?
EMs are electricians and work with the electrical generation aspect of the reactor and the wiring etc. on board. ETs actually run the reactor and handle the electronic instruments associated with it.
Been in the Marines about a year now, about to finally graduate comm school in Twentynine Palms and move to my first duty station at Camp Pendleton. I'll try to answer any questions y'all might have.
aye, it's just they tend to drill you more on the "hurr durr, want to shoot a sandnigger?" questions alot more if you go rifleman.
>down the line i intend on applying for Commando's as well
focus on the here and now before you start dreaming of following Ben Roberts Smith
are there any "right" answers as far as theyre concerned? or would they just be pushing me to test my tenacity as well as sussing out my own reasons to make sure im not some kind of psycho.
There are no correct answers
>you have friends and an active social life
>your family and upbringing was good
>you are close with the family
>"id pull the trigger if me or my colleagues were in danger, or as described in the ROE (rules of engagment in case you're a SA farmer)"
>work is fine, i make little to no mistakes
>nah, im not on any pills and havent been all my life
I can answer some more questions if you want
Do people in the Army actually like Angus Campbell or is he just a meme general?
Basically, lie your arse off.
They dont have access to your medical records, so if you had ADHD as a kid, it doesnt matter as long as you keep your mouth shut about it.
also, keep any rapid weight loss you might have done to yourself
if it's over 10 kg, they ask you to maintain said weight for 6 more months before proceeding to the next stage
Australians, any experience or knowledge with the additional testing for electronic warfare operator?
Recruiter said it wasn't possible to study for it but I'm finding information online that says it may be similar to the DLAB or the MLAT tests. Would I be correct in studying these to better my chances?
I really can't fail this.
Looking at the ausmilitary forums it seems like interservice transfers are very difficult
Anyway, don't join the military for a job you may hate for years of your life to potentially move on to something else.
Think very long and hard about why you want to be an infantryman that doesn't involve killing people or just killing time until you can apply for super secret special operators
And the additional testing is a language aptitude test (possibly stuff like pic related). I'm pretty sure it's the same test the cryptos have to take.
I'm wondering if anyone has any more practice tests on this sort of thing
Well, i think it's safe to say iv'e had too much to drink tonight.
you probably wont find what help you're looking for here.
what state are you? or are you the SA guy and im getting you two confused?
>in case you're a SA farmer
i knew what ROE meant but thanks for your concern
ive got a pretty good medical record so i dont have anything to worry about there as far as i know.
ive actually heard the exact opposite, at least for rifleman, as it provides the most core army skills and training that can lead into many other professions.
>ive actually heard the exact opposite, at least for rifleman, as it provides the most core army skills and training that can lead into many other professions
Rifleman is the 'soldier' position in the army, the generic thing people think of when they think military.
You don't join the fucking infantry for 'core army skills'. Do you know who gets taught 'core army skills' in the army? EVERYONE in the army
>ive actually heard the exact opposite, at least for rifleman, as it provides the most core army skills and training that can lead into many other professions.
Then thats what you say.
substitute "killing sandniggers" with "core army skills that can lead into many other professions" and they'll eat that shit up.
>i knew what ROE meant but thanks for your concern
Sorry about that.
i live in QLD, so many many many bogan fucks i live around dont know what ROE means, so it's just habit.
>pretty good medical record
hey man ive just heard that from many people who were in the Defence Force, granted some of them are old farts and haven't been in the army for a while but i imagine thatll maintain some relevancy today. even though everyone learns all the 'core army skills' they said that rifleman has the best sideways mobility in terms of changing to a preferred job, and that theyd be happy to put people where theyre best suited if a particular job or area isnt working.
That's why i gave them Combat Engineer as my second preference. It was going to be my first preference but i couldn't help but think some of the aspects of the job veered a little bit away what i was more interested in. I will research the job a little bit more but those were some of my impressions. When i go for the test in a fortnight for the Combat Engineer preference then hopefully they'll provide some feedback then, especially if i do well on the test which I am very optimistic about.
They're our most MUHHREIN-like job in terms of mentality.
Was friends with a dude who was a Combat engineer and he swears that American EOD are shitkickers compared to "the superior training of Army combat engineers".
Boy's got spirit, ill give him that.
Sup lads, Aus Navy here, been in since August..
This thread helped me a lot when joining, so thought I'd come back and answer some questions about RS or my role (CIS) and maybe help some bros out.. So if anyone has questions, feel free to ask.
Also, thinking of moving over to subs if anyone has any advice or comments
Hey, I am looking to join the ADF, at the current momentt I am a NZ citizen, I can easily get Australian, citizenship. What service and role should I go into. I would like to have a active role, and not be some marine who cleans rocks for japs.
Also would you recomend the Australian commando's ?
Pic not related
Eh, I've seen some pretty skanky shit, but it's more morals degrading because of time away (partners back at home being cheated on), rather then just all out slut fest... Keep in mind, I'm on a training base, which seperate the girls and guys in their own seperate blocks. Once I join the rest of the fleet, it becomes mixed dorms, and I expect the slutness to pick up to a whole new level
And for that i commend you, dear sir.
May you never catch crabs from a Navy Skank
What about your nations military?
NDF got to be in fucking Lord of the Rings, man
Hey, /k/, looking for a little advice here.
My father works at this private college. I have the opportunity to go there for a full, free ride.
Since it's free, and won't put me in debt, it'd be worth to go get a degree before enlisting? Or would it really not matter whether I went before or after enlisting because it's free?
I keep revolving from really wanting to join the military to wanting to go to college and becoming stockbroker. Already told mom I'm not joining, but now I plan on joining again. I am really fucked up