>Made of melted Hot Wheels
If you can't manage to put together another $150-$200 for a decent handgun then you're too poor to be buying any handgun in the first place.
>be 22 yo girl
>work as a waitress paying way through school
>don't have much in the way of mo ey thanks to books, class, and rent etc...
>can't afford to take a chl either but fuck it I'll buy a pistol and purse carry
>see hi point for 120
>I can afford it
>15 yo on 4chan don't buy and save up instead
>decide to wait until next week
>get raped on wait at bus stop
>wow I wish I had that shitty hi point
I would literally rather have the HiPoint than the Sccy. They aren't even bad fucking guns, they're just cheap and look like shit so a bunch of neckbeards made a meme out of them without even having any experience with the gun.
>people need to make a certain amount to exercise a basic human right
I got one for $100 off facebook. It's never failed to sling lead but it just feels like shit and it really is low capacity for the size
My LCP holds the same number of rounds and I can put it in my shirt pocket
I'm not saying I want them to not be able to have a gun.
I'm just saying that if you can't exercise the responsibility to save up $100 then maybe guns aren't for you.
Hell, I got my Ruger P95 from a dindu on facebook for $200
>Everyone says the HI-Point is the worst gun ever made
>Known and proven to shoot reliably and accurately
>Looks and feels like shit
>Its shit because its not "$500" gun
>Or "$300" gun
>No one compares it to other reliable, accurate $100 guns
OH YEAH BECAUSE THERE AREN'T ANY
We get it, you've never been poor, had bills, or worked in your life and money is an easy thing to waste.
I've never even owned a hi point, I dropped $800 on my first handgun, I'm just not a fucking idiot who doesn't know what a budget is. No one gives a fuck if the bullet they took in the lung came from a pretty gun or not.
It is your basic human right to have a firearm. Not to have a free gun. But A gun. Not a nice gun. But a gun. If you are to poor to buy a gun then get a shitty one. That is the price of living in the land of the free. Commies who cannot afford a gun can go to Canada. There you can have the state protect you.
I always hear the meme that hi points are ugly but reliable.
But when I look up reviews they seem to be absolute trash that jam more often than not.
I guess the customer service is supposed to be decent but still wouldn't ever want one
The only reason to buy a hi point is if you absolutely need a gun that second and can't possibly afford another $50-100 for something better, but you're going to replace it as soon as you have the money to.
Back in my college days I talked a smart a** guy in my dorm into buying a Hi-Point handgun as his first gun. His buddies bought Beretta's. Ha ha. He looked like a fool when they went shooting. But those buddies of his were arrogant pr*cks and later became cops. Go figure.
Maybe I have brain problems now, but I think I WANT a hi-point. I already got revolvers, and semis, not to mention my rifles and shotguns.
It just sorta feels like this is our own american makarov. Shitty looking, heavy for the size, but reliable and abundant.
Lead me toward what you will, /k/.
You realize that everyone had 21 YEARS to save up some money to buy anything better than a hipoint, right?
There is literally no excuse for having a shitty budget.
Where do you even go to buy hi-points? I've not so much as seen one to finger fuck it. I usually only goto lgs, not big box places, but never remember seeing one at a gander mountain either.
If you can just barely afford a Hi Point, you aren't going to be able to afford a decent holster for it or ammunition to practice with. You'd be much better off with pepper spray and saving your money than carrying a weapon that you can barely use.
you cant gaurantee or warranty the reliabil function of a used gun like that though.
you rolled the dive with your $100 and got lucky.
further that deal isnt going to be broadly available or be able to be planned for the average buyer. It was a one time thing slecific to you.
If you're suggesting that "average joe gunbuyer" purchasing a gun out of an urgent perceived need for self defense and on a limited budget, should browse gun forums/classifieds looking for a pistol in a non standardized caliber, which has been rearsenaled for an out of country manufacturer, that has no modern cartridge loadings and few holster options, with magazines thay are hard to find/replace, is somehow better than a modern calibered, warranty covered, new from the factory gun, then you're an idiot
You know what the HYPOTHETICAL situation meant to imply.
Do you ALSO really think they meant wait until you can afford the high end pistol with almost no ammo or holster?
Have you ever looked at how much ammo and range fees cost? If you can't afford the slightly higher one time cost of purchasing a decent quality pistol over a shit pistol then there's no way you'd be able to afford the repeating costs of ammo and range fees to train with a Hi Point. A police trade in Glock will only cost $150-$250 more than a Hi Point and various other decent quality less expensive pistols will only cost $100-$150 more than a Hi Point, while 750-1,000 rounds of 9mm ammunition depending on whether you buy locally or in bulk online and a 1 year membership at a range near me or 5 trips to another range where you can pay per visit is about $300.
>be little timmy, 5 years old
>be told to start saving money now or else i'll grow up to own a hi-point and then i'll be a faggot to internet strangers
>don't want this outcome
>get job at the child labor factory
>mauled in a machine
>phew, at least I never owned a hi point
Just because you should doesn't always mean you could. I guarantee you'd never understand this truly, and no amount of "bullshit! I blah blah this, and blah blah that" can change that fact.
How safe is it to shoot hi-points with +P rounds? The site says rated for +P, but it's a blowback. Maks are blowback and I was lead to believe that was the reason they were designed for weak x18.
From what I've seen, the jams are from mags. They seem to be really picky about getting broken in, sort of. Like only partially load the mags for the first few times. Sounds like fudd lore, but it did make a difference. They're fugly, but I was surprised by how well they shoot.
They're taller and significantly thicker than a Glock 19 making the gun hard to conceal and have problems with magazines leaving the factory with their feed lips out of spec (the main cause of reliability problems with Hi Points), along with the magazines being weaker and more easily damaged. I've also heard of problems with the firing pins in the carbines, which have similar internals to the pistols, bending if you put a lot of rounds through the gun.
>and aftermarket ones?
NEVER get after market magazines for Hi Point guns, seriously they are all shit. Your best bet is to not use any magazines that the gun tends to jam when using. You could then take those magazines and try bending the feed lips until the gun functions reliably.
Is this stupid?
>have $2k AR with optics and fairly tacticool
>sweet looking AK with nice furniture and is pretty sex too
>lots of quality mags for each
>old and beautiful bolt actions everywhere
>only pistols are glock and hi-point
I just don't see why you need a expensive pistol, its job is just "OH SHID, I DERPED WHEN I SHOULDA HERPED, I BETTER DRAW MY BACK UP!" The only thing that matters to me in a pistol is 50m reasonably accuracy, actually pistol sized, and reliability.
Big money should go into your big guns, or maybe I'm just stupid.
Somewhat a sound idea, but what if you draw said backup, and it doesn't do it's job? Be it, reliability, or capacity, or whatever?
Don't completely cheap out on a sidearm, but don't splerg on it either.
But I never claimed this. In fact, I agree with this. If you literally cannot afford better, buy a Hi-Point by all means. Any gun is better than no gun. But there is no other good reason to buy one.
I think there was a miscommunication. See I was expecting some sort of small rant how someone "went through those tough times, and even then could still pull together the cash for something better". Because let's face it, some people have no common sense or street smarts to pull in extra cash for luxuries let alone necessities.
I think it's safe for me to speak for most people here and say that pistols are generally bought as carry guns, competition guns, or range toys, not backups to a rifle. And the people who do buy pistols as backups are only ever going to use it in their wannabe operator range drills.
What does $2k buy you in a carry pistol? Especially if you do not care about looks. A much cheaper pistol is still accurate at the ranges you'd feel safe actually shooting it in an emergency. And reliability isn't an issue of cash either.
Also,competition/toy versions of ANYTHING are in their own categories because what makes the "good" is extremely specific and/or completely subjective.
I think /k/ would be all over the hi-point if it were either less ugly or more ugly. It's just in this uncomfortable medium where it looks like overly cheap shit. Even if it is cheap shit it's pretty accurate and reliable. Kind of like a Mak, only a Mak got the ugly factor just about perfect.
I use them to have hidden in every room of my house, so I'm not caught off guard.
One hidden in the living room
One hidden in the bathroom (in easy reach from both the shower AND toilet)
One hidden in the garage
One hidden in the kitchen
The other two main rooms have the bulk of my other guns.
It's easy, you just save 35 bucks from each paycheck, and 4 paychecks later, you have 140 dollars, more than enough to buy a used HP C9 at your local monthly gun show, plus some 9mm.
Never get caught off guard again! I figure I won't need an extra mag for each pistol, because the goal is to fight my way to either my room or the computer room, where the rest of my more powerful guns are.
Hi points are literally throwaway guns niggers use. They fail on them because they don't know the first thing about firearm maintenance. Best bet, if you want a hi point, is to practice with it a few times, oil the fuck out of moving parts, slap it in your purse/pocket and forget it exists until you need it. Best part is that it doesn't matter if it's taken for evidence in a self defense scenario and gets held up in the legal system for 4 years because it's a gun that costs less than $200. It's literally the easiest gun to replace because you shouldn't give a shit about replacing it. That's the point. They work, but they aren't competition guns. You probably won't be over 10 years from whomever you're shooting anyway, so you don't need it to be a high class precision firearm.
>a gun is a gun.
I'll take things poorfags say for $200
>if it goes bang, its a gun and does its job
it doesn't reliably go bang, and it doesn't go bang many times before you need to switch mags, which for the fuckhuge size of it, is retarded.
>middle of the night
>boom, boom, crash!
>anon was in the garage working on some project
>picks up his trusty C9 near him, sees the perps, and begins firing
>perps are not deterred and begin to fire back from near the front of the house
>anon moves towards the kitchen from the garage, still firing
>*click*, picks up new C9 in a flash and keeps firing
>perps are becoming shaken by now, how the fuck does he keep firing?
>anon leaps from the kitchen to the back of his couch in the living room,
>*click*, the perps hear, and one breaks from cover to rush anon
>picking up his new C9 from behind the couch, anon lays a few rounds in the advancing perp
>with his dying thoughts, he believes anon's humble hi-point c9 was a font of infinite bullets
>other perp is beginning to lose his composure, but is still firing
>anon moves towards his room and disappears behind the wall
>this is my chance, figures the final perp, he's backed into a corner
>anon bursts from his room, dual C9's blazing, with dozens more tucked into his waistband and various holsters strapped to his body
>like some sort of new age pirate, he fires round after round, dropping guns as they empty and replacing them with fresh hi point power
>final perp has shit and pissed himself at this point as he becomes riddled by a wave of rounds fired by low cost high reliability all American weaponry
>Right to bare arms should not be means-tested
>Government subsidized guns for the disadvantaged
>Send everyone getting USDA food assistance as part of the WIC program a surplus M-16
I unironicly love this idea. Gettos would literally be war zones.