>implying anyone uses IRC
#MEG on Freenode
If you're on mobile look up AndroIRC for the app. Any questions, ask in the thread to get you set up.
For Ranger info, obviously.
All around SOF website. Great info and run by former/active members of every SOF unit. Mentor program. Also has forums for international SOF.
For all Army SF info.
For Navy Corpsman info.
This is an all-inclusive thread for MARSOC/Force Recon stuff. Good site for Marines info too.
For Coast Guard info. Good site, lots of vets able to answer questions.
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Ask questions, answer questions, bitch about Air Force recruiters, accuse each other of stolen valor. Just keep it contained to this general you cocks.
High school - 1:1 male:female
Military - 5:1
If you weren't appealing enough to get your dick wet in high school, you probably aren't appealing enough to attract your peers in the military.
White trash of the crazy flavor, frequent flyer at the medical clinic, and pregnant by her 4th month out of AIT. She actually got moved to another station because she was basically disrupting her whole section with drama.
>Have to get permission to own guns from banana niggers
>Shit for gun stores
If you like it in Hawaii you should stay there so your stupidity can't fuck up other states
How fucked am I?
Basic to BOLC option
-Ship to Benning
>Basic to BOLC option
You're not a 35A, anon, you're an 09S. Halfway through OCS you'll get branched into what the fuck ever. MI is the third hardest branch to get out of OCS after finance and aviation.
I would start researching 42B, 74A, 88A, and 92A to see which one you like best.
Underage incoming 35G reporting.
Two anons kept mentioning the dangers of underage drinking. Are you talking about at AIT or right now at home? Hypothetically how could they possibly find out during my TS clearance background check?
>You're not a 35A, anon, you're an 09S. Halfway through OCS you'll get branched into what the fuck ever. MI is the third hardest branch to get out of OCS after finance and aviation.
I guess things are different for the regular Army. I'm going NYARNG
Apparently they had 3 MI slots open that needed to be filled. I've selected one of those vacancies for myself.
Basically I looked at a spreadsheet and picked the three I wanted. The others were also awesome, essentially Human Resources.
If I fail out of OCS, I'm contracted for all 35 series MOS's. No 35P's were open though, a shame really. I pick up languages easily and already speak German fluently.
I'm mostly afraid of being 8 years older than other recruits at basic. Christ, how much more shit do you get for being older than 25?
Oh, yeah, carry on then.
Just be prepared for OCS to be full retard. It's not hard. There's no training, it's just stupidity and hazing. Endure it for 12 weeks and it's over.
>I'm mostly afraid of being 8 years older than other recruits at basic. Christ, how much more shit do you get for being older than 25?
It's NBD. I was 26 in basic, there were up to 41 year olds in there with me. Same in OCS.
How fucked is that guy in the last thread with a 11xop40 with a 15min/2mile time?
I assume with 2 months BCT and more in AIT he could get that down to 13? If he takes it seriously thats more than a few months of good conditioning
Goddamn. All the other people at my ASVAB test and MEPS were straight out oh high school, or still in it.
Letterman jackets and so on. All the Marine hopefuls at the ASVAB test were dressed a bit "urban."
i was 23 when i went through.
i wanted to kill each and every motherfucker in basic because they were such retards by default because they were young.
shit was cancer.
have fun trying not to strangle every person you see there.
if youre already doing it in the civilian world the army wont teach you anything you dont already know
learn something else and become well rounded
honest the best mos for civilian application is 68a if you can get it
i dont have a degree, got my 68a and now am making 60k a year starting in an entry level position
thats a lot better than a college degree can get you nowadays
It's not as bad as he says, but its pretty bad. Most of the people in your platoon will be 18 year olds fresh out of high school. After a month or so, you get pretty tired of the "Yah, Imma go Airborne Ranger Special Delta Forces Green/Crimson Beret". But if you do fail out and get a choice of MOS, definitely go 35 series. I hear 35Q is pretty highspeed.
Being on nightshift doesn't leave me with a lot of time to browse threads. I spend most of my time in class, sleeping, or at the gym.
I don't think he means there's anything wrong with it. He probably just means its nice to have a change of subject every once in a while.
Anyone else going to basic at fort jackson in a few days?
no disrespect to the guys that are legit, but to the shitposters who have never ran a day in their life, saw a movie or played a game. it gets old.
last thread there was a guy saying he ships early Feb and runs like a 16 min 2 mile or some shit, and he's going 18x opt 40...
He's 11x opt40, he'll make it through boot, and if he makes it through boot at the 18-21 APFT he'll make it through Basic Airborne Course (assuming he doesn't quit), and if he doesn't make it through RASP he'll just go to 82nd or 173rd as an 11B or C.
>How is that any different than what he just said?
That's not really getting fucked anon.
Yeah, combat arms (other than SF and SOF) during peace time (though we still have deployments going on) is more likely to be shit.
But it's not the same as getting stuck being a laundry specialist or a fucking cook.
i wish him the best, seriously. i just hope he understands what he just signed up for
that's true, its passing. like someone said last thread though, he shouldn't be shooting for minimum requirements
>They will try to convince you not to but it's your choice?
Your packet will get lost, you'll get some "1 on 1 counseling", if you put in a packet you'll get shit on with constant 24 hour duty shifts, if you're an NCO you might get a bad NCOER because you're putting your responsibilities as an NCO to the side to go to SFAS or RASP.
I have calves of steel. With prolonged workouts the rest of my body turns to steel too, but I'm a lazy bastard and don't work out anything but my legs, inadvertently at that.
Will this help me in the military?
>That's fucking retarded, is there any way around it?
At least for SFAS packets your CoC can't technically say no (if I remember correctly, may have changed). If you put the packet in they have to send it.
>Working under people that would do that sounds like hell.
People are petty. Including people in the Army.
But from their perspective they're also losing someone who has responsibilities (an NCO, trainer for a weapons system, team leader, or whatever), or they're losing a good junior enlisted (if you're not a shit bag).
I wonder if they would see it that way if they got a letter saying "So we don't have to train a replacement, you will never be promoted, ever"
Train a fucking replacement and let the guy try out for SOF
I thought 16 minute 2 mile was acceptable
How old are you?
>I wonder if they would see it that way if they got a letter saying "So we don't have to train a replacement, you will never be promoted, ever"
That's not the same thing. You're confusing some bureaucratic decision not to promote someone with an individual deciding to potentially hinder their own team by leaving a personnel gap.
From their perspective you are potentially leaving a capability or training gap, which in real life could cause the death of one or more people you actually work with, because you selfishly want to be one of those cool commando high speed types from the vidya.
>What's the average day of an intel Marine like?
>Go to PT
>Go to work
>Don't actually do any intel, just agree with the highest ranking Muuuuhhhrrreeeeen present
>Jerk off to how Hooah you are, post photos on Facebook of you in your bathroom mirror wearing full battle rattle.
15:54 is 60 on the APFT scale, and your minimum.
If you can run that already you'll get better. And when you get to your unit they'll make you run if you suck at it.
It's exactly the same thing.
>Good soldier is wasted in grunt role
>Wants to contribute to the army in a better position
>Leaves a spot to be filled
>Officer wants to move up in rank because rank is all that matters
>Leaves a lower position to be filled
Really there is more sense if denying the officer a promotion
I did a class with an OSI instructor, he didn't have very nice things to say about Marines that attended the courses he taught.
>Really there is more sense if denying the officer a promotion
There really isn't. The officer corps is designed for officers to move through different roles, from platoon time to company XO to company time to staff (if you make your 10 year HYT).
The enlisted ranks are not designed for that.
>>Good soldier is wasted in grunt role
>>Wants to contribute to the army in a better position
The army is just as capable of training someone else to do that job as they are of training someone to replace you.
The difference is that while they are training someone to replace you your job goes undone.
You're not some special snowflake protagonist of your own story who gets the support of his CoC because he wants to go play commando.
I agree with you anon that if someone wants to go to SFAS their peers and leadership should set them up for success.
But the fact that you can't see it from their perspective just shows how autistic you are.
>which in real life could cause the death of one or more people you actually work with
What? No, are you fucking retarded? What the fuck is wrong with your dumb ass, where are you getting this bullshit from?
>Can you retry RASP or Selection if you wash out of op40/18x?
If you are removed from training for failing lanes/evolutions, you may re-attempt at a later date - which will also be influenced by what was documented during your initial attempt.
If you are medically removed from training, you may either recycle or attempt at a later date.
If you VW, you will not be given the time of day, let alone wasting another slot.
There are people who have failed after multiple attempts, who later made the grade. A friend of mine had to attempt SFAS three times before he got his long tab.
You are a fucking idiot.
>There is never a pool of replacements, if someone goes to selection his job is just empty like he vanished without telling anyone
>Officers should move up and out but enlisted are tools to be kept where they belong
>Wanting to progress and advance is selfish
>But an officer committing fucking crimes to hold you back so he doesn't have to work is totally cool
Let me guess, you're in DEP.
Again, I agree with you anon. If a soldier wants to go to SFAS their peers and leadership should set them up for success.
But that's just not the real world sometimes.
>And someone in a non deployed unit advancing does not equate going fucking AWOL in a combat zone you cock sucker.
Did I say that?
I'm sorry to step on your dreams family.
Not everyone is out to help you, and their reasons may be justified (to themselves at least).
Damn that would suck, doing everything to standard and knowing you have to do it all over again (I assume not repeating isn't a choice you could make at that point, you know you can do it it's just going to be a two round fight)
>Were the Marines ill mannered or just stupid? Stories?
It's just a doctrine thing.
In intel work it's not a good idea for everyone to just blindly defer to the highest ranking person in the room because that person may be a complete moron.
Muuhhhhrrreeeens don't see it that way, and in the courses he taught that had Marine students they tended to blindly agree with the highest ranking person in the room.
You implied it, or at least that the command will see it that way. Your reasoning is BS, if an officer is fucking a soldier with shady shit like punishing them for even trying and destroying paperwork that asshole is NOT doing it for noble goals.
Anyone know much about PJ selection? There's a lot of info out there on the 18 series but I can't find much about PJ. I'm know what my PT goals are before I enlist, anything specific I should be preparing for mentally? Books to read?
0% - Any type of eye surgery that creates a corneal flap disqualifies you. I had PRK done.
Pretty much, in most cases they'll bring you before a board or have select cadre speak to you about it. I'd say that the majority of those people will take those points into consideration and try again at a later date.
A friend of mine who took the long walk, went to selection (passed), and they told him no thanks. He came back, deployed, still did his job above standard as if nothing ever happened. He was contacted a few months after returning from deployment and left for OTC.
>You implied it
No, you inferred it.
And then turned it into a straw man and beat it up.
>Your reasoning is BS
1. it's not my reasoning, I'm not your CO shitting all over your operator dreams here kiddo.
2. It really isn't. If they were to deploy tomorrow and you stepped out to pursue your commando dreams and that left a capability gap, that might actually get someone killed.
3. They just really don't want to lose a soldier with enough experience, maturity, and training to get selected.
>if an officer is fucking a soldier with shady shit like punishing them for even trying and destroying paperwork that asshole is NOT doing it for noble goals.
It's not about your value judgment, it's about their perception.
It's the same reason people can't understand why crazy Christian fundies shoot up abortion clinics.
So you're equating trying to understand an officer pretty much attacking an enlisted man via his career to seeing the reasoning behind a mass shooter? Sounds about right.
>My career is important because I'm an officer, you're just a cog and must never be allowed to advance because of hypotheticals I'm using to justify my irrational devaluing of enlisted soldiers.
Oh, they actually tell you why you weren't selected so you know what to work on? That's way better than I expected.
Sounds like your friend is the kind of guy for the job. Is his performance after returning to his unit the main contributing factor in the callback?
It's fantastic, for me anyways. I had it done long before I went to the 75th - so I think I can comment on it pretty well.
I had astigmatism beforehand; night vision wasn't effected at all, but I would get slight star bursts/halos.
Only downside was recovery - which fucking sucked. Bad. I have a very high tolerance for pain, but fuck it was bad. Eyesight took a while to return as well, which honestly is fucking terrifying.
No, I'm saying you're committing a fundamental attribution error you fucking mongoloid.
And you're conflating two separate arguments you made.
At this point you need to just stay away from MEPS because you're too dumb to ever be in the military.
>Oh, they actually tell you why you weren't selected so you know what to work on? That's way better than I expected.
As long as you're a candidate that did very well/has very redeeming qualities.
>Sounds like your friend is the kind of guy for the job. Is his performance after returning to his unit the main contributing factor in the callback?
No idea, didn't tell him. Nothing about selection is standard for them, and no standards are ever put in print or passed along. Even for 99% guys in the unit.
>get YOU session date within a month
>go to YOU session
>recruiters are down to earth
>my ideal job is priority
>go away and hand in school reports
>recruiter contacts me and tells me he's booked me in next week for additional testing because they need applicants for this job quickly
Not even shin splints can make me unhappy now
>rather than a big guy who can lift heavy things
Go to the gym Anon.
I work with a lot of CAG guys, most of them fall into two categories, fitness wise; gym rats (whether it's crossfit/powerlifting/etc) or super endurance freaks (ultramarathons/ironmans/etc).
They want someone with intelligence, a high level of trainability, mental fortitude, and is also a physical freak of nature.
I'm not saying you need to be ripped like Arnie, but it's time to lose the perception that the ideal SOF body is skinnyfat - which is something this board loves to regurgitate.
If you can pay for it on your own/with insurance without it financially burdening you? Sure why not.
If not? Be aware that in the Army, preference will always given to SOF personnel first. Then you will have a wait list of other people who signed up long before you were. But it will be 100% free.
Did anyone actually say anything to the contrary? I want to go 18x (No not to be a door kicker, I'm more interested in the traditional force multiplication training/liason role they played) but I'm not talking to a recruiter until I can get a perfect APFT score.
>Did anyone actually say anything to the contrary?
Many people. Hence the filename.
Also, best of luck with the 18X route. SF is a tough gig. And a lot of it takes a large amount of patience.
Doesn't hurt to get with a recruiter beforehand though. If you haven't check out ProfessionalSoldiers and find a mentor. If you have a NGSF team local, it might also pay off to try and talk to a SF recruiter.
Holy shit. Do people still join the military?
Wow, that hasn't been cool since like 2005.
Well, good luck with those kike wars I guess.
>joining Obama's gay lesbian dindu army
>calling /pol/ a cuck
get a load of this guy
To be fair, a military coup is probably the best way to deal with the Jewish problem. I just hope these motherfuckers know what they're actually getting themselves into.
Ok, fair enough.
As you were soldiers.
I'll fuck off now.
As if that gives your post merit or something?
I'm 99% sure vinning falls under the "Cardio freak of nature" option of the two you gave.
>SF is a tough gig. And a lot of it takes a large amount of patience.
From what I understand the pipeline is something like two or three years? It's worth it in my opinion, can never be too well trained.
And thanks for the advice, I'll go poke around. I know I'm at minimum a year out from enlistment because I'm still working on getting 15 credits to validate my GED in addition to other obligations. I'm in it for the long game though.
>find a mentor
My boss is a former 18b, but he got out a long time ago. Mostly been talking to him.
>Sorry for long delayed reply, I was walking home from work.
Not true. RASP can be graduated from anyone in decent shape. Have never been to SFAS so I can't say anything there.
Important to note that Ricky's in RRC, which grabs the freaks of nature from batt or a small amount from elsewhere in the Army that have also attended RSLC and have a tab.
Kids today are pussies, internet made them soft.
I regularly work kids half my age into the ground.
I'm a civ construction worker, the biggest pussy I ever met was a marine who kept crying about cuts and his hands hurting.
fellow aussie detected
wait till assessment day.
medical examination, psychological evaluation and a job interview
i wish you good luck son, and may god have mercy on your soul
Does the 75th still deploy?
What is quality of life like?
Most importantly, if I did become a Ranger, would I have the same tactical sweeping operations like regular 11brooms, or would I actually do shit?
From what I've gathered in these threads, anyone with the right mindset can pass RASP and shit.
Most of all, is it fun?
Shit boys. We are at MEPS and getting ready to head to lackland. See you guys in 2 months.
Yes they deploy
They aren't broomers
Instead of busy work they train or do PT
If you get in you're a fucking cherry until you either see combat or get your Tab.
Making it through RASP is cool
Making it through RASP and Ranger School means you're squared away, know your shit, and know how to suck it up
It's fun when you're not a cherry anymore
Fatass here, lost 30lbs. in the last four months, but I've still got about 30 more to go (currently 210lbs, 5'11"). Is there any point in talking to a recruiter right now when I'm at least a few months away from being of acceptable weight to join?
The military is not the club of personal advancement, it's the club of you have a responsibility to everyone else to do your job and mission readiness of the unit is more important than letting a guy try out for SF/go to RASP
>they aren't broomers
Yeah all those privates that prove themselves through rasp are magically not new fucks and don't have to clean the company.....
Ranger bat isn't as special as people think. It's a higher budget higher tempo infantry unit. It's still full of all the gay shit the army has to offer.
I'm going to be getting a TS/SCI clearance, and I've heard that presents some fantastic opportunities for employment outside of the military. But does anyone know any specifics? What kind of stuff would I want to learn to make myself more appealing to those kind of companies? Is it just the FBI / alphabet soup agencies? If I've got a clearance, what could I get that would supplement it the most? A CS degree? How do you keep a clearance once you're out of the military?
congrats anon, what job?
>ideal SOF body is skinnyfat
surely nobody thinks that? lmao
>yeah actually I have the ideal bodytype for SF, I just didn't want to roid like the rest of them do though, they're too big
looks like it
They can still help you this early and they will likely try to motivate you to keep losing weight and/or work out with you if they think you're serious.
Nonsense. If you're serious about flying helicopters you should do a WOFT packet as a civilian.
Civvies have a higher acceptance rate going right into being pilot warrants than enlisted have.
Government agencies and government contractors are a big one. Even a low end IT helpdesk job can be a 70,000/yr contracting gig if you have to work with TS systems so they can't outsource it to India.
You need to supplement with a degree though. CS is a great choice, but most STEM is favored.
Not him, but I personally went from 270 to 190 mostly just by starving myself. I wasn't consistent at all with exercise, but aimed for a 1500 calorie diet.
Once I hit 190, I started exercising a lot more regularly and eating better. The more cardio I did, the more I could eat like I used to. Now I'm 183, eating 2.5k calories or so. I've still got a ways to go but it worked for me.
>how did you lose weight?
Roughly a 1000 cal deficit, as you said.
For the first three months, I didn't do any exercise at all, but a month ago I started C25K and that has been progressing smoothly.
Also, and this might be bullshit, but I've been told that as your weight increases it exponentially increases the amount of force that is put on your knees. If you're significantly overweight, like more than 40 pounds, you might want to wait to lose some weight first before you start running.
>If you're significantly overweight, like more than 40 pounds, you might want to wait to lose some weight first before you start running.
Sounds wise. I live next to a lake, I should probably take up swimming for cardio.
Did you experience any skin flab?
Reading threads like this hurt, for one i'm not American. The second thing being that we have mandatory service in my country, however during version of the "MEPS" all i got was that service was possible. Probably my eyesight and fucking up our version of the asvab contributed to that.
Sucks that you want to serve but can't.
*Sometimes* the military issues a government non-diplomatic passport that is used for official duties that require such a document. If you want to vacation or travel for personal reasons you need a personal passport. Hell, my unit sometimes did spins in Germany and such where personal passports were required as there wasn't enough time to create and issue gov passports.
Fucking hell, MEPS lost my transcripts from college so now I have to wait until I go to lackland apparently in order to sign an e3 contract. What the fuck man.
>not having a copy in your hands
Consider this a lesson you should obey for the rest of your time in the military. Always have copies of your paperwork and always carry relevant copies with you to any admin shit.
I did. I was the last one done at meps and didn't even get a chance to sign a contract my first time here. It's quite bullshit because now I have to sit in wait until Friday or Saturday to have an official e3 graduation contract. They lost my transcripts here too so it's bullshit. I'm quite mad, because I had 50 credit hours and I'll be damned if I get stuck on an e1 for 20 weeks and then get my e3
Thanks. I'm just stressed because my dad is losing his shit about it etc but I won't blog here.
Today will be a good(ish) day until I get to lackland at about 9 or 10. Then a slightly annoying version of hell will have come. I say that because I've seen and heard how bad mcrd has it in San Diego.
my dad and stepdad would lose their shit about any injustice the military bestows unto me as well. dad was 30 years Naval Intel, stepdad was 25 years SF medic. between the 2 of them, i know what to expect and what not to put up with. such a blessing
Yep. Both my parents were in I think 8 years and know how the system work(ed)s and its just frustrating to have him calling and complaining and yelling at me to fix it here when I can't.
Such is life. I best get used to the yelling because it starts tonight.
Maybe I can break my 4chan "addiction"
Is there any benefit to joining the military with some higher education, but no actual degree?
I was a fuck-up and lost my financial aid, and then subsequently dropped out because I couldn't afford to continue. I think when I left I had gotten around 70 credit hours.
Yeah they said they don't give a fuck because we have a 4 hour wait between final oath and the bus ride to the airport.
>But does anyone know any specifics?
It depends on
1 what your MOS is
2 what you're looking to do when you get out
Also you have about 2 years from the time you leave any position where a TS/SCI is required to get back into a position where a TS/SCI is required or your clearance will be considered "lapsed".
The difference between having an "active" and a "lapsed" clearance is that a new SF86 is required if it's "lapsed". Which means it's more time consuming for your clearance to be turned back on.
The reason this happens is that you only have a clearance so long as you are in a slot that requires that clearance. So when you leave a job/slot/position and no longer require it it's "turned off". Your clearance doesn't follow you. However if you've had a TS/SCI before it's easier to get it back which is why companies that have positions which require it head hunt for cleared people. They prefer if it's "active" because it means less time and money to get cleared again because you don't require the full investigation.
>surely nobody thinks that? lmao
I personally didn't hear it much from people who had never been in, but I heard that type of thing from guys who were already in for awhile (not SOF or SF) or NCOs (not SOF or SF).
I imagine a lot of it is confirmation bias from them doing the terrible APFT focused (cross country with some push ups and sit ups) PT for the last ten years.
I'm going in as a 35F in the Army. This is pretty interesting, would it not be a big deal to have your clearance lapse? If it is, then I guess I'll have to see if I can pursue internships or anything like that while I'm going to college.
>would it not be a big deal to have your clearance lapse?
If it's "lapsed" that just means you need to do a new SF86 and an investigation. But if you were already able to get a TS/SCI, didn't lose your clearance for something stupid or criminal, and didn't do something stupid (rack up tons of debt and become delinquent) or criminal between the time you left and the time you do a new SF86, you'll likely be fine.
If you want to keep doing 35F stuff after you get out, you'll need at least a 2 year degree. Before I got out DoD put out a new hiring requirement for intel contractors saying that minimum civilian education was an Associate's or equivalent.
I knew more than one person who was contracting at CENTCOM in Tampa who were told to start school within the next six months or they were going to be let go.
Neat, thank you very much. I was planning on going to college when I finished regardless, so it's good to know that it won't really hurt my opportunities to have my clearance lapse.
I want to clarify a bit about the DoD contracting requirements.
A lot of people that I've talked to don't know how contract hiring works.
Most people think you get hired by, for example, Xe, KBR, Dyncorp, Triple Canopy etc. and then you just go do static security, WPS contracts, drive trucks, cook food, do intel stuff (a few smaller companies do intel contracting as well as some of the larger companies).
When you're hired, the State Department, Department of Defense, or whoever is putting out the contract requirement, makes the final determination on hiring.
So a company very well may want you because of your experience/resume, but you may not get hired because an HR person at DoD/DoS didn't like your resume, you didn't meet certain requirements (civilian education), or what have you. I actually ran into this problem.
I was ETSing, and in contact with a contracting company that offered me $155k to go to Afghanistan after seeing my resume and doing a phone interview (I was deployed at the time). I was also recommended by someone the recruiter knew (an NCO that I worked with). But I didn't have a degree, so that was what was holding me back.
By the time I finished my AA my clearance was going to lapse soon so I just decided to stay in school and finish my Bachelor's.
As the time to my flight (408 cst) ticks down, I'm actually getting a slight bit nervous. Sure I've watched videos and read stories of BMT, but you can't encapsulate an experience like that on a video or in writing. Can't wait to have a few cool stories or something when I get to Monterey though.
Did anyone else gets slightly more nervous as your flight time got closer? I was fine up until an hour or so ago, then when my family left I realized this was the real shit now
Done a little bit of research and it seems that the Army only has a handful of MOS's with no vision requirement. Would another branch have better options for someone who is red/green colorblind?
Any colorblind enlisted in here?
I think there is a bit of confusion going on here with terms. As I understand it red/green discriminate basically means "partially colorblind", or red/green colorblind. Infantry and artillery are open to those individuals without a waiver (which I'm pretty sure you can't get in this case, seeing as it's a lifetime incurable condition). So there are other MOSs and even combat ones open to those individuals, but I think it would be best if I got a more recent eye exam that could test for potentionally disqualifying eye conditions and all that shit.
I talked to a navy recruiter and he really tried to push me to do nuclear, but I remember reading some terrible things about it on /k/. I also can't remember if they said that it was only subs that are bad or if carriers are bad too. Can anyone substantiate those claims?
I guess I remembered wrong but I was pretty sure infantry and artillery are closed to r/g colorblind because red/green being stop/bad and good to go signals is kind of important.
If you want to be a nuke you will like it but if you just get pushed in you will probably hate it. Training is long and stressful hours, and once you reach your ship/sub you get more long and stressful hours while you study for qualifications. After you're qualed up it relaxes some but you're still the first on and last off and work near the reactor in the bottom of the ship.
CTN is probably the best job in the Navy, but it's one of the worst if you want to be stationed all over the world. CTNs work for the USA from the USA.
Take 2 weeks of leave and see Japan.
meg I need your help.
Today I was given my monthly non-promo counseling. No big deal, that's been standard for the last 11 months or so. However today there was an extra line on the counseling. I am going to be barred from reenlisting if I don't go to a promotion board.
Now I'm not butthurt, and I ETS in about 11 months. But is there anything I need to be wary of in order to protect myself? Is being barred inherently a negative thing? Or should I just keep on keeping on until I separate?
Going to France in a month to join FFL
Tell me how much i'm fucked, /k/ucks
Not going to affect your bennies if that is what you're worried about. Commanders can bar you pretty much whenever they feel like it, it is just that most don't bother.
If it's feasible, I'd just go to the board and get promoted though. Looks better on your civvy resume if nothing else.
>Going to France in a month to join FFL
>Tell me how much i'm fucked, /k/ucks
There was an anon a couple of threads ago who was in. He did not recommend it.
Also, they only take about 10% of applicants.
You're not fucked at all, since you're probably not going to make it.
It's generally not something you just get up on a whim and decide to do.
That being said the aptitude tests are easy enough if you have half a brain, I've seen more people fail the eye tests more than anything else.
If you like flying, it's a good job.
>Is that because they have really high standards, or because most applicants are either fucking retarded or out of shape?
They have very high standards. The Legion is limited to something like 7,000 guys and cannot grow in size without the permission of the French department of defense. There's only a limited number of slots open at any given time and applicants come from all over the world.
Last stop before basic. Dallas fort Worth does have a really nice airport.
Unless things have changed, recruiters will usually print you out a shitty little "DEP card" that will let you shop at military facilities and use some military benefits before you go to training and get your CAC.
Both will most likely reject you outright for any prescription, your only hope might be Reaper pilot, get the eyetest done.
Navy has the more varied career, better for rotary, generally you are a naval officer first pilot second blah blah.
Airforce has more stability, being on a base for lengthy times usually.
no they'll train you
if you get a TS from it then im sure itll help finding a good job in an alphabet club.
oh you said germany right? i take back the part about it not being some hajji shithole then. any government relations in germoney or turkey?
>my mother is white.
then its not a big deal just be open about it and mention you want to renounce your Turkish citizenship.
>Can't wait to have a few cool stories or something
Unless it's something that would be funny outside of basic, don't tell stories about anything. No one wants to hear it.
Like if you were ordered to wash the HMMWV before the kill hat went to turn it in at the motor pool, and it turned out that was no roof over the cab and you soaked the seats, and he had to sit in it the entire 45 minute drive and got swamp ass all day and then smoked you for it after declaring loudly what you did, don't tell it.
A good rule of thumb is, if you find yourself starting a sentence with "when I was at basic" just stop yourself.
do it faggot you dont have the balls
Why are people so eager to say that enlisted doesn't pay well. When you factor in benefits, food, housing, GI Bill, you're making much more than 1500/month evenn as an E-1
Depends. Med School? Not it won't cover it fully. A Masters or a short PhD? Then yeah.
>When you factor in benefits, food, housing, GI Bill, you're making much more than 1500/month evenn as an E-1
Yeah, you get a lot of allowances you wouldn't in the real world, but people wouldn't count things like the Ch33 for some reason.
you have friends and you socialize when you have the chance to.
your family is solid as hell, comfy
you work hard, and you're mature as fuck, got everything sorted.
when asked "would you pull the trigger" say a squeaky clean answer like "only within the confines of the ROE" or "only if me or my collegues are in danger"
squeaky clean answers, unless you get a cunt of a psyche evaluator.
memorise everything about the your chosen job
>how long you're at kapooka
>what you may learn there
>how long you're at skills school (i.e. Singleton for Rifleman)
>what equipment you may or may not use
>the core principles of the ADF
>dont be a fuckwit
research stuff, but tell them you were hanging out with your friends the whole time when you arent working.
never ever ever mention alcohol or try to be funny in any way.
theres a word for what officers incur, you gotta pay back service years if you want them to pay for a masters or something while youre in.
enlisted i think its just under the GI bill but i dunno
You dumb motherfucker
heard you washed out hard and ended up like 13f
Have no idea what happened to that guy. Spent the last 117 days in RTC though, failed the PFA by 12 seconds, Legal told me that when I re-enlist I'll be able to get ASMO'd into a Senior Division so I only have to do the PFA and Battlestations since I completed everything else.
If anyone has any questions about U.S Navy boot camp feel free to ask me anything, in regards to whatever it may be, THU, FIT/RCU, training, whatever.
>glad to see /meg/ is still around after four months of being gone
13Fox is currently in the process of being chaptered out because he lied about taking meds at MEPS and then complained to his DS that doing PT in the cold was making him depressed.
shame about the PFA, but maybe this'll give you time to properly prepare and get that cardio up
If you are the NYARNG guy, I'm pretty sure that guard are technically "in" from the time they sign rather than the time that they ship. You should be able to get some flavor of ID card.
sounds like some of the guys I met while in SEPS.
Thank you though friend. Hope you've been well.
Easy as fucking shit. It's summer camp.
if you're talking about mentally hard, yeah P-Days suck, and the worst part for a lot of people is being isolated from our loved ones.
Physically hard? Not that bad. the RDC's are restricted to drop you based on a small piece of paper called an Orange Card, they can only make you do 50 reps of each exercise on the OC, and in between each exercise you get a two-minute resting break.
It also depends on which Ship(Barracks) you're in, the Male-only ships are the show ships, and are held to the highest standards for boot camp, which means you will get dropped a lot more and be woken up at 0400 more frequently than the other ships.
Ship 06(USS Constitution) and Ship 14(USS Arizona) are the show ships, all of the other ships are male/female ships and have much more lenient RDC's. It's completely random if you're a male, doesn't matter on what rate you got either unless you're spec warfare/spec ops, then you'll be going to Ship 04.
Anyhow, if you go to the show ships, watch out for Chief Yoo and Chief Creed. They'll both fuck your shit up.
>Thank you though friend. Hope you've been well.
ADF bumped me back on the psyche eval because they thought:
A) i wasnt mature enough, i.e. didnt have a licence, and moved out by 18.
B) i wasnt "socially adaptable" enough to embrace the mateship of the Australian Army
So ive got a 12 month block on my application and im going to use that time to get into even better shape than last time.
I still lurk these threads religiously, and even OP'd a couple of times.
Learn something new every thread
same shit happened to my rack mate in FIT, on thanksgiving day we all sat around with chief and just talked during holiday routine, he refused to participate so chief sent him to REU, and they said he had a hard time adapting to new environments as well as "socially adaptable". Got sepped the next day with an RE-4.
Did Cryptobro ever come back?
Also got to wait a few months until I can start up again with the recruiters, but they told me the moment I can pass a mock PFA with them is the moment they'll send me back up to MEPS.
Do you fucking love studying and a grueling, stressful course of instruction that leads to shitty hours and hard work in exchange for reenlistment bonuses and rank?
If so, Nuke is for you. Otherwise, fuck off.
If you want to fly cargo planes or something, AF. If you want a chance at flying a coolguy aircraft like a fighter or a helicopter, Navy. Also, if you're vision isn't good enough to be a pilot, the Navy has Naval Flight Officers, and the AF has their equivalent (Flight Systems Officer I think?) who are aircrew and work on board aircraft but don't fly it. They operate the radar on radar planes and are the back seat in 2-seat fighters, etc.