>lol don't care we only do progressive decisions now so fuck your case we won't see it
they probably will, but they aren't laughing about it, they aren't seeing the cases in case they only do progressive decisions that would be set in stone.
Not gonna happen. The constitution was discarded long ago, we are ruled by unelected bureaucrats whose will send a militarized police force to no-knock you in the middle of the night if you dont obey.
uhhh, different anon here but MRAPs and full auto-AR's definitely make the police militarized. (yeah, a lot of them rock full-auto lowers for no reason, especially SWAT teams)
Its more of an attitude though, modern cops view themselves more as a military force than as a civilian who is out to keep the peace.
>striking down anything unconstituional
gee whizz, how did Obama pass an exec order on guns...
>hopeful idiots are watching this like it's going to do anything to stop the government from slowly legislating our gun rights away
I'll let you in on a little secret: The federal government is not your friend. They do not want you to have or do anything they can't control. They also do not care what you think, so this whole "they won't do X it'll make them look bad!" rhetoric is nonsense. If you challenge their self-imposed authority in court (which I must remind you is *their* court) they will prolong the case until you get tired and give up or die of old age, Alternatively, someone will find drag marks leading to your body on the side of the road in an apparent "suicide". If you're totally unlucky they'll claim you were diddling kids and send SEAL Team wannabes to your house to murder your family and claim you shot one of their officers after they find your stash of explosives and drugs that you didn't even know you had.
Are you implying the police and swat shouldn't have armored cars when in locations where heavily armed locales exist?
MRAP is nothing more than a giant armored SUV. Thats really not militarized any more than the preper down the street who owns a deuce.
When they start getting AT4s and Bradleys we can say they're militarized and not just equipped for the job.
>a vehicle meant to withstand IEDs is the same as an unarmored open back vehicle meant to transport supplies and troops
>be me in 2005
>be inna Iraqistan
>be on patrol in M1114 HMMWV
>have issued M16A4 with 3 round burst
>be me now
>be civilian in Ft. Livingroom
>see cops with MRAPS and M4s with full auto lowers
>realize cops have better gear than I had for an actual war.
>mfw I have no face
what are they gunna do m8 that faggot gates thought 50 billion dollars worth of the things was a good idea and cut just about every other important program. but now that we don't need them why let them rust in the graveyards
Ohh big and scary tracked vehicle.
Top one is a mobile command post, Bottom one is most likely a retired medical track, Possibly a mortar track. Yea those are surly going to do some massive damage... f they run over something. Certainly not like those rednecks who own Patton or chieftain tanks.
Are you implying they should just carry their one magazine and maybe a spare in their pocket?
Using ACUs is a bit much, they should at least just wear whatever swat uniform the department approved. But lets be serious, a shitty digital pattern still breaks the silhouette in case of an active shooter (Texas tower shooting anyone?)
>heavily armed locales
yeah, because RPG's and IED's are a real problem in America. "Heavily Armed" would be RPG's, crew-served weapons, and lots of explosives. Jamal with an AR is not "heavily armed.
>MRAP is nothing more than a giant armored SUV
literally not true at all. An MRAP is a fuckhuge war vehicle designed to roll through anything short of a tank round. It is designed to have crew-served weapons mounted on it, and is bad taste for a police department to roll around in. what>>28591785 said is true, police are literally rolling in better gear than I have RIGHT NOW, except they dont have the training required to actually use it, so we have no-knock raids on the wrong houses, idiots with EOTech's backwards, backwards mags, ect. (people being shot for bad reasons)
The equipment really isnt the issue though, its just a symptom of the larger problem, which is the ATTITUDE of most officers. They view themselves ar better than, and outside of society in general. Officer McFatass seriously thinks that he puts his life in danger every day, and that he is the same as a soldier
pic related is a classic example of when cops think they are soldiers
>hurr durr you must have been an mrap mechanic to complain
please tell me more about how I need to be a Michelin stared chef to criticize the purchase of 20,000+ vehicles who's only purpose is to explode intentionally,cost fuck tons to maintain, and are now rendered useless now that need has disappeared.
Your complaints and opinions are just that, complaints and opinions, not facts, no matter how hard you want them to be. Keep laying them on me and I'm going to keep telling you why your complaints and opinions mean absolutely jack shit.
>"Heavily Armed" would be RPG's, crew-served weapons, and lots of explosives.
Explosives are easily made at home. Socker sand niggers didn't go into C4 mart and get supplies for IEDs.
Crew served weapons? Bitch we can legally own .50 bmg rifles, M2 parts kits are still out there, some full auto rental stores have one to rent. There was a small amount of MK19s parts kit that came from korea. There are a ton of RPG parts kit floating around you literally fill one or two demileld holes, and get a new firing pin for. RPG grenades arn't rocket science to make, and its /only/ $200 tax to legally own.
>MRAP IS SO NOT AN SUV
Lets decode your liberal fear mongering sentence.
>An MRAP is a fuckhuge war vehicle designed to roll through anything short of a tank round
An MRAP is a mine resistance ambush protected troop transport never designed with tanks in mind, nor as any type of frontline vehicle.
>It is designed to have crew-served weapons mounted on it
It is designed to have a m249 or maybe a m240 as protection in a hostile environment with additional support vehicles in a convoy.
Most do not mount an M2 as there is only room for one person in the turret.
>police are literally rolling in better gear than I have RIGHT NOW
Because police are not poor fags. M4s are arguably worse than an a4 for specific circumstances. (Go look at M4 temperature problems)
Impressive what police force justified an M2? Theres not enough pixels to really see any details.
Care to stop projecting and accept that when you don't know what you're talking about is a good time to not act like you do? Because at this point all you've just been doing is proving that you know nothing.
this is an example of the mentality im talking about
>someone COULD make an IED so that means we are under attack!
>An MRAP is a mine resistance ambush protected troop transport never designed with tanks in mind, nor as any type of frontline vehicle.
wait, so MRAPs aren't frontline vehicles? let me just call TRADOC and inform them of that. I said anything SHORT of a tank round nigger, stop twisting my words. I know damn well what an MRAP is, you don't
>Most do not mount an M2 as there is only room for one person in the turret.
U w0t m8? the m2 is a crew-served weapon yes, but when its mounted there is only one operator. You think every m2 has two guys on it? Like we are sticking two guys in the turret of an m1114? Also, a 240 is a crew served weapon, and we only mount a 249 if there are absolutely no other crew serves around.
Also way to sidestep the menality and tactics of police and just talk about equipment, which is just a symptom of the larger issue
>putting you entitled retards in your place when you open your stupid mouths.
That's entitled shitlorde to you. Also I fail see how you did anything other than make an ass of yourself.
>using kevlar is BAAAAD!
>ignore my own bdus and plant carrier pls
>calls someone a fucktard
>makes no sense
>a vehicle used by swat teams soley to protect its occupants is bad
>view themselves more as a military force than as a civilian who is out to keep the peace
>let me make baseless statements about a group of people I know nothing about and have no connection with! That's not arrogant at all!
You think I giva a shit what they look like? I don't care if the dude arresting me has an M4 or a squirt gun. You shouldn't either, as long as you also think people who try to ban ars for looking scary are wrong too.
I cns agree with the people who say "no knock raids are overused" or something like that. That's fine. But right now you're just making "I don't like it because it's SCAWWEY" statements
>>striking down anything unconstituional
It's almost like they didn't recently declare the 2A and individual right and strike down all the country's local handgun bans and storage requirements
>declaring the 2A an individual right
How young are you? Do you know know how long we've been fighting the serious idea that the 2A only guarantees guns to the military and organized militias? This has been a serious problem for decades and was one of the antis most common arguments for why their bullshit laws were constitutional. Finally saying, "Everyone can own a gun regardless of militia membership" and also "you can't ban handguns or make people lock their guns up at home" were large victories, not small. Not to mention all the liberals flipping their shit and crying their eyes out when SCOTUS decided these things. That was a victory in itself.
Police have civic duties since they obey and are funded by the people (lol). They're pissing away our taxpayer dollars on unnecessary gear. I'm sure everyone can agree this is bad.
Its funny how the further this case gets the more naysayers start posting. You might as well support this wholeheartedly because if it doesn't happen you might be more pissed to the point of getting more involved. Being a negative cuck about it doesn't do anything good for anyone.
There were a hell of a lot of naysayers in the beginning, but also a lot of machinegun owners (and people defending them) saying they would rather just have more machineguns than have a collection.
Lately I'm not so sure that's true, but eh. I don't have high hopes for this case, but it'd be a hell of a win.
>It's almost like they didn't recently declare the 2A and individual right and strike down all the country's local handgun bans and storage requirements
And then subsequently decided to not hear a case involving Chicago's AWB.
And now every gun grabber that is a little bit politically aware is being told that the SCOTUS has swung their way and they should push for AWBs at the local and state level.
All courts lost their legitimacy when they started basing rulings on case study as opposed to actual laws or the constitution.
Now if some pig fucker judge can pass a sentence, or some president gets away with illegal shit, everyone can do it because future courts just look at the rulings of previous decisions.
>implying SCOTUS has any legitimacy left after upholding obamacare any creating gay marriage law
You are a special kind of stupid.
>be super fudd
>buy machinegun for $10k
>now worth $25k
>It's worth that much because of the hughes amendment which passed to be added to the FOPA under questionable circumstances
>Once it's established that it's unconstitutional it will be it's "real" price of probably $2k
>fight against the second amendment so my guns keep their value
>wonder why a bunch of keyboard warriors are so mad.
Seriously there are <500k machineguns in the civilian registry, and they're really willing to fight the second amendment to hang onto their artificially inflated value. These people can get fucked.
You don't even have to mutilate your penis. Just shave and put on a dress. I can't wait for the first crossdressing serial rapist to start targeting womyn in Manhattan or San Francisco. Maybe then they will wake up.
Haha! Who the fuck am I kidding? They will bury that story so fast, no one is likely to ever know it happened.
We should start flooding the ATF with Form 1's under trusts.
If everyone on /k/ did it and they rejected it, these rejections could be added to the lawsuit and further the argument of equal treatment.
that's how all common law courts operate and how all federal and most state courts operate and have always operated
only areas under French influence use civil law as opposed to common law