ITT: we discuss the merits of our favorite hand to hand weapons and thrown weapons
A personal favorite: the sledgehammer
>good at removing walls and doors between your enemy
>good at creating massive amounts of internal damage with even a meh swing
ugh, someone who speaks my language
you're going to hate my answer but
a silk tie, a good length of chord, a higher quality genuine leather belt, or (of course) a towel
I mean granted, they arent knives, but its true, they are really fucking useful. both violent and helpful
>It's light in the hand
>It's got a lot of reach
>It can stab people really easily
>It's got great hand protection
It's not something I'd want to carry around on foot all the time though. 42 inches of steel will bang into everything
I choose this.
>short and relatively concealable if you hold it under your arm against your body, or you could put in backpack
>hits hard as fuck, and will fukt even the strongest of skulls in 2 hits
>doesn't need to be sharp and rust free to work properly - also extremely low maintenance in general
>can be used with 1 or 2 hands
>have 5 points of contact with different uses (main spike for neck, hammer for skull, side spikes for skull and they won't get stuck, stabbing point for eyes or throat etc)
>even if a dude is in medieval plate or modern Type IV armor - he is done
a drunk nig with a shitty hammer can do this:
I meant to post this hammer, not the german one
Also yeah, warhammers are amazing. I'd prefer a lucerne though.
i carry one of these in my truck because its short enough to swing out the window if i need to
mine has a square head on it though.
what about home defense? hallways n shit?
Op here, no not specifically, especially if you read my remove wall portion of my post
Literally any weapon you would use that is for either melee or throwing(no grenades/Molotov's)
Conduit bender. On the end of a 3" steel pipe, you're swinging a 10+ pound sledgehammer, AND you can bend any pesky conduits.
I steadfastly believe that no weapon would be as viscerally enjoyable to use as this.
>Perfect melee weapon. Pic related
Can smash or stab,
Decent weight packs a punch,
Lighter weight allows faster follow-up strikes than most blunt impact weapons.
And (I guess, if you need to) you can use it for mundane purposes that don't involve smashing bone into smaller pieces of bone.
You couldn't ask for something more unwieldy.
Well how else was Anon supposed to show that he's a hip dude who's way down with board culture?
Both as a useful tool and a reliable weapon, the crowbar is an obvious choice...that being said, keep it within reason, 2-2.5 feet, hex or bar stock, with some grip tape, and you are set for all that ails you
I want what the Siphai is using
Are these worth getting for $30? Or are they for autists only?
might as well make ur own toy that does just as much damage
I feel like a lot of those "European Martial Arts" people take the German fighting manuals a little too literally. I somehow doubt they spent 100% of their time bonking each other in the head with their hilt instead of fucking stabbing them. It's like watching someone pick up a rapier and try to fence by bashing with the grip.
No, half swording is when you need a to stab through plate badly but dont have one of those squared daggers. Dont know what they are called but its shaped like how a raiper blade is, not wide and thin but almost semetrically thin
Here's an experiment, hit something at full force with this or a piece or rebar.
Result: All that fucking force goes right back into your hands because you're holding onto a solid bar. For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. Holding onto a sword or mace grip is purposely bigger and padded/adorned with a buffer material so it spreads out and reduces the felt "recoil".
I bet you fags have never gotten your hands dirty in your life and think "oh lol this feels pretty solid in my hands goddamn I love Half-Life 2."
>tfw when no rondel dagger to stab dindus with class
It hurts, /k/.
see what you want is for you to have a knife and for them to not have a knife. thats the ticket right there.
for real though yall are all talking about some dnd bullshit, if we're talking about an actual real life situation a pocket knife is about as good as it gets for hand to hand shit. a pocket knife or a brick, maybe.
I love my brickonnastick and she loves me back
One of these. Short enough to take in your car or truck, or next your bed, or in a backpack. Weighted with a steel rod or cap at the end.
If I had to choose something "exotic," it would be a pair of tomahawks.
There's a learning curve to throwing them properly. Easier to learn than most throwing weapons, for me at least, but the average slob isn't going to be able to pick one up and go full tilt Mohican without some practice. If they're staying in your hand, they'll give you more reach than a knife, and if done right, can even block a blow.
They're practical in day to day use, to boot. It's not totally outlandish to see one of these poking out of someone's gear while on the trail or out innaforest, so in that respect, you can feign ignorance when trying to pass as someone who isn't looking to start some shit.
They're fun as fuck, and they look mean as shit.
This for self defense because I fenced saber for 3 years
These for executing enemies because there is something satisfying about a blunt object causing massive internal damage
can't argue with the interal dmg part, but swing it a couple times and you're winded and off balance, not to mention its strictly a 2 handed weapon and not agile at all
>inb4 im duke nukem
My main grip with this gif is that it's suppose to picture armored fighting but only one person is armored, so... why the hell is he using half-swording ? It completely messes up distances, it's kinda ok as a demonstration, but you would be nowhere this agile with a whole suit of armor, so it's misleading at that point.
And it's obvious that the redshirt can be much less cautious than the armored dude.
So in fine, it's no sparring and it would be absurd as sparring. It's a bad situated demo because they both use the same technics even though it's ridiculous for the armored guy. I don't even know what it is suppose to show or demonstrate.
It's like they want to show that a good fencer without any sort of armor could defeat ok an armored person, which is ridiculously optimistic and pretty stupid in it's own right, armor is a fantastic advantage and the gif is completely misleading in tht regard.
I have one and it's fucking good. Get it.
No one can argue the utility of the sabre hilt. but tell me:
Is it comfy?
>mfw batons are illegal in New York but swords aren't
>Longer reach doesn't make blows "deadlier" in themselves, though reach is indeed good.
>the japanese sword also have a two-hand grip that allows lunges and one-handed uses
>"Mordshlag" is made with the pommel, not the crossguard
>Japanese swords had fullers too
>Half-swording isn't for "piercing armor" but for going into gaps with better precision, the longsword can't beat plate armor dead-on, just like any other sword really
>Japanese had some good steel, they had few of it though and certainly their forges were less "potent" than the euro ones. Good steel was always findable mind you
>You seem under the impression that every japanese sword was a work of art, this is completely untrue, there were a lot of cheap swords, just like in europe and just like in Japan, some euros swords were really just showing pieces. The japanese sword too is a tool, at least those used in war. There was a lot of bullshit said about it by the japanese themselves in the Edo era, but we don't need to believe in it. Most katana were a rugged piece of weaponry that was treated like any other weapon.
>historically better means nothing since the two weapons never met
Other than that, it looks video-gamey "deadly attacks", "maximum lethality", etc...
>the implication that European swords were not often extensively decorated.
I put to that effect.
>some euros swords were really just showing pieces
I'm not enough of a grammar nazi for correcting spelling errors, but I'm weeb enough to say this is just silly katana bashing that is very poorly informed. Sure, there were a lot of issue with the nihonto and sure, the "longsword" is superior in many way but 1) the guys that used them never fought so... 2) we live in a day were swords will never be used so...
There is way more common things to look into each practices and weapons, way beyond silly uninformed bashing, I can't understand why we're still at that unproductive point.
It's not like we'll be using our "deadly sword skillz" any time soon, so why bother which is best...
If you attach a chaim to the handle, you have extra range and if needed extra power.
Imagine someone puts a knife out of his pocket and you swing that thinf in an 2 meter radius around you....
Rapier by a large margin. I'm 6'7, and my wingspan is like 6'11. With a 36" blade I'd be good against anybody without a polearm (with practice, of course). A dagger would probably be useful for parrying.
Have fun, hammerfags.
>real light and super concealable
good luck blocking though, just be quick on your feet I guess