What is you favorite weapon for bear hunting /k/ ?
Also, What's your ideal sidearm?
I killed a bear with a Marlin .30-30. It was threatening my dog in West Virginia. I hit it in the neck then heart shot it cuz I didn't know if it was dead. Dropped in 1 though. Living the Fudd dream
Don't they have a fuck ton of worms?
If you are the literal fudd I am picturing living in the 100 acre woods and a bear walks up on your house and tries to break in to get food by all means shoot the thing.
However this thread is not about environmental homeostasis. Someone going out of there way to track and kill a large bear just for the pedestal is actually causing the "impact" you are talking about. Literally seeking and trophy hunting a bear is degenerate as hell.
If the game department says there are too many bears tearing shit up and sells you the license cheap, and you bid fair to get a free rug and a couple hundred pounds of free meat, you shoot them.
Yeah, can't say I agree with killing that animal, it's kind of cowardly in my opinion. I just posted it because the bear itself is a fucking monster.
Yup, shot by a doctor up in Alaska I believe.
you can also shoot beers if they are interfering with agriculture, i took out one last year trying to knock over my beehives. sold the pelt for a 600 bucks and got a glock 23 and ate like a king for a week.
Alright, so we'll go with Kodiak bears specifically.
We have multiple settlements on Kodiak Island so there is a chance of them coming into contact with humans outside of hunting. Plus we have the local ecosystem that we want to take care of. So I guess we need to keep the bear numbers at a safe and sustainable level. Which "trophy" hunting helps to do. Then the money for "trophy" hunting goes straight towards conservation.
We need to keep animal levels at a sustainable level and hunting is essential to this.
I was mostly berating people that, for example, travel to a different state with the intentions to simply to outbid a license, shoot a bear with a fucking AR, and then skin it and head for the taxidermist.
If any animal is interfering with your lively hood, by all means shoot it and use it.
If you are shooting a bear in response to your game deps requests and are going to harvest the animal entirely, go for it.
>where my food comes from
ahahahah Elmure please. We are not all inbred hicks eating bear in the fucking woods.
>I just posted it because the bear itself is a fucking monster.
It's just a camera trick. The guy is probably sitting a couple meters behind the bear, making it look much larger than it is.
Never believe any hunting or fishing picture unless the thing is sitting on a scale or has a tape measure laid on top of it.
That looks to be a Kodiak bear and they are the largest breed in the world IIRC. Polar bears might be about the same size or a bit bigger, but Kodiaks are massive. There most likely wasn't any movie magic to make it look bigger.
"meat comes from the store!"
Older animals (which are the ones most people try to kill) don't breed as much as younger ones. So killing them does help. As for the meat, like I said it's arguable. Personally I don't agree with it. I'd rather have some meat in my fridge so I can save money on food.
well, i'm just saying, there are more ethical options than just leaving it. one of which is donating it to Hunters Feed the Hungry, its a much better idea than just letting it go to waste or donating actual money.
> Henry long colt
why would i want to go with the inferior ammo?
it wasn't very big, maybe like 40 pounds of meat, off season too. by the size is couldn't have been more than 2 or 3 years old.
The state of Minnesota destroyed like 20 tons of donated venison because the OMG LEAD POISONING environazis got on their tits.
Be very very careful who you donate your meat too.
For hunting black bear: Winchester Model 70 Super Grade in .338-06
For hunting brown/grizzly bears: Winchester Model 70 Safari Express in .375 H&H Mag OR .358 Norma Mag.
For bear defense: Mossberg 590A1 model #51668, 12ga., loaded with Brenneke Magnum Crush slugs (666grs of lead traveling at 1604fps)
For bear defense if I can only carry a pistol: Ruger Super Redhawk in .480 Ruger.
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Yeah. Honestly I agree with you. Fill my freezer with meat and then donate anything else.
>Kodiak Bears arn't a thing!!!!
Look at the taxonomy section. It's recognized as the only sub-species of brown bear. So they are a thing. Dumb fuck.
Huh, well the more you know I guess. I don't live in Alaska so I didn't know that.
Walk into any gunstore in america and you will see at least two of those, if not all three.
The .338-06 is a snowflake wildcat. The .300 winmag will persist until the 2100s
>Huh, well the more you know I guess. I don't live in Alaska so I didn
The fish and game don't play around at all up here. If you fuck up they can take your animal and any and all equipment used to harvest said animal. Including truck/boat/snow machine/guns etc. never have I seen stricter game regs and penalties.
My dad was buddies with one of my high school friends' dad, who was a state trooper. Since the kid and I hung out a lot, our parents all knew each other.
My dad was out hunting, I don't recall the season, when state trooper came across my dad's truck when he was out patrolling hunting spots. He sat and waited for my dad to return, and when he did, he checked his license, his gun, and some other shit. Basically the full run down.
Even if they know you, and your kids are like best friends, they don't screw around.
I actually agree with you, but honestly who the fuck are you to tell people "oh doing this with these motivations is okay but doing the same thing with slightly different motivations is totally wrong". People will do what they want, if there's a legitimate problem with bear poaching, then yeah lets prosecute them. If out-of-staters want to pay exorbitant prices for hunting licenses that's a good thing for the local conservation efforts too. Stop thinking so parochially and see the big picture.
Fur and bones. Meat quality varies by area. Fish fed bears are nasty. Game and berry fed bears are better.
It is bad. Don't waste.
>Doesn't know how any type of hunting actually works.
>Doesn't want a bear rug.
>Bitches love bear rugs
So as far as hunting goes. You want something you can reach out and touch it with. I would use a 300WM or 338WM. 45-70 and 12ga slugs are great but don't expect any real accuracy past 200yds. Those are better suited if your watching a bait station or just hiking. As a side arm I would use a buddy with a 45-70 and I'd have a .357 or larger caliber revolver.
you're fucking retarded if you don't think the pictures are hunter's tricks. Do you not see how he is clearly sitting several yards behind the bear in the other picture? or how the arm of the bear in the other picture is kept out of frame? besides from that obvious trick, you can clearly see with any depth perception whatsoever that the hand is much closer to the camera than the face.
>mfw this nigger will literally cry himself to sleep tonight because MUH BEARS.
The sad thing is, retarded mall ninjas like this retard make up the majority of /k/ posters.
He literally had no idea that .338-06 was a real round and then tries damage control by screaming fudd.
If more people on /k/ actually went out and used their firearms, rather than sit online and jerk off over made up self defense/tactical scenarios, /k/ would be a better place.
>almost everyone on here lives 100s of miles from the nearest brown bear
>what sidearm for hunting
>for hunting black bears
>for hunting in the mountains period
>all this shit understanding of bear behaviour
People are happy to buy $1000, 4lb unshootable revolvers in fear of an animal they'll never even see, but a few $20 books on bear behaviour and bear hunting requires too much effort, I guess.
Majority of Alaskans carry a .44 Magnum for bear defense.
I personally think it's too light, but studies have shown bear attacks are successfully thwarted by handguns more often than long guns. something like 96% success vs 90%.
>Not even arguing against it other than meming...
For fucks sake you inbred, hunted mammals doesn't even make 10% of black bears diet. majority of it comes from nuts, grass and berries while their vast majority of theri ''carnivorous'' diet comes from insects and fish.
40% of all moose calves killed by black bears
>Osborne, T. O., Paragi, T. F., Bodkin, J. L., Loranger, A. J., Johnson, W. N. 1991. Extent, Cause, and Timing of Moose Calf Mortality in Western Interior Alaska. Alces 27:24-30.
6 - 30% of caribou calves and up to 5% of adults may be killed by black bears.
>Ballard, W. B. 1994. Effects of Black Bear Predation on Caribou. Alces 30:25-35.
Grizzly and black bears accounted for approximately 55–60% of all deaths (including both predation and non-predation) for tagged elk calves during their first 30 days of life.
>Barber, S. M., D. L. Mech, and P. J. White. 2005. Yellowstone elk calf mortality following wolf restoration: Bears remain top summer predators. Yellowstone Science 13:37–44.
Black bears appear to have greater reproductive
rates and survival when neonate ungulates are available as prey.
>C. C., SCHWARTZ, AND A. W FRANZMANN. 1991. Interrelationship of black bears to moose and forest succession in the northern coniferous forest. Wildlife Monographs 113.
Black bears were responsible for 541 livestock kills in Alberta from 1974-79, 90% of these were cattle.
Louise P. Horstman and John R. Gunson. (Spring, 1982) Black Bear Predation on Livestock in Alberta. Wildlife Society Bulletin (1973-2006) Vol. 10, No. 1, pp. 34-39.
49% of white-tailed fawn mortalities in this study were by black bears.
Kyran E. Kunkel, L. David Mech. (1994) Wolf and bear predation on white-tailed deer fawns in northeastern Minnesota. Canadian Journal of Zoology, 72(9): 1557-1565, 10.1139/z94-207
Serious predation by interior Alaskan black bears upon the nests of some waterfowl has been recorded
>Hatler, David F. (1967) Some aspects in the ecology of the black bear (Ursus Americanus) in interior Alaska. Thesis (M.S.) University of Alaska Fairbanks.
Black bears kill 8% of spawning female salmon.
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Black bears fuck up beehives in Massachusettes.
>Sandra A. Jonker, James A. Parkhurst, Rebecca Field and Todd K. Fuller. (1998) Black Bear Depredation on Agricultural Commodities in Massachusetts. Wildlife Society Bulletin (1973-2006) Vol. 26, No. 2, pp. 318-324
Predation by black bears accounted for 66% of the total mortality of elk calves by predators in Idaho.
>SCHLEGEL, M.W. 1986. Movements and population dynamics of the Lochsa elk herd. Factors affecting calf survival in the Lochsa elk herd. Federal Aid in Wildlife Restoration, Job Completion Report, Project W-160-R, Subproject 38. Idaho Department of Fish and Game, Boise, Idaho, USA.
because you don't know how to math.
An individual black bear's diet is 85% vegetation.
Since there are a lot of black bears, even 15% of their diet can add up to a whole lot of other shit