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Could Australia independently repel an invasion attempt by another country, say China?
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>>28584820
nah, they'd be buttfucked into oblivion.
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>>28584820
Hahahahaha
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>Chinese Military lands in the outback
>Gets eaten by spiders
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>>28584820

Probably. The Chinese Army is very large, but lacks blue water ships ESPECIALLY logistical ships. The Chinese Army might be able to make landfall, but the large size and relative barrenness of Australia would strain their logistics to the breaking point.

The USA with all its power and money could not hold Afghanistan, Australia is quite a bit larger, and would be very hard to hold.
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>>28584820
does Australia even have an army? or do they just rely on the insects and animals there to kill anyone that tries to invade?
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>>28584820
With what? Your armed citizenry?
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>>28584861
Australia's wildlife will do a better job defending than Its No Gunz piece of shit Population
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China has already bought most of Australia's mineral rights. Why the fuck would they invade?
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but australia's already been invaded by asian people
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>>28584820
olololololololololololo no

It's like Australia's women are working tirelessly to become Chinese joy division rape toys.
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>>28584892
1/3 the size of Britain's with 1/2 the funding.
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>>28584820
>chinese invade
>all forces destroyed by emu within a week
>emu take control of whole country and reinstate gun rights
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>>28584820
China has very little force projection. So yeah, probably.
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Didn't another country successfully do that back when the only things there were murderbugs and non African nigs? Seems it would be easier now, assuming nobody else got involved of course
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>>28584820

LoL
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>>28584892
>you are now aware the RAR/GRES regularly participate in joint excercises with the native fauna
>you are now made aware of the 1st Royal Golden Orb Weaver Reconnaissance Battalion
>you are now aware of the 13th Dingo Support Brigade, 31st Emu Heavy Lift Squadrons and the 333rd Kangaroo Strike Division
Aussies don't fuck around getting the fauna to work for them, M8.
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>China lands
>overpowers the Australian military
>when all hopes are lost
>in the horizon, chinese soldiers see a silhouette
>one silhouette becomes a dozen, then a few dozen more
>australians' eyes widen
>one of them grabs a chinese soldier by the lapels
>"mate, we need to get the fuck outta 'ere!"
> the chinese soldier rifle butts him away and goes back staring in confusion at the aproaching mass of shapes
>but they were too late
>their machine guns were of no use
>the last things they heard were
>SQUAK SQUAK SQUAK SQUAK
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>>28584820
Somehow I want to answer yes.

I'm surprised all the Austrians have not been killed by the land and wildlife let alone defense forces.
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>>28584820
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brisbane_Line
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>>28584820
China can't even manage to reach Australia.

At most they could supply two to three divisions

So yes.

They already had problems supplying their ships when they tried to help look for the downed Malaysian flight, and that was without anyone shooting at the five or so ships they had.
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>>28585149

This. They already own half of that shit island.
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>>28584820
Australia could. Just not the people.
Jokes aside, they probably could. It would be fucking costly and wouldn't look like a co NV entional battle. Just chinese guys starving to death or deing from dehydration due to the supply lines being cut.
Australia is austalias best defense.
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>>28585287
M8 You forgot our most important unit the Special Dropbear Regiment.
Also fuck golden orb spiders.
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>>28584820
Yes, easily.
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>>28585421
Honestly its not that bad. You just have to look out for the snakes. And the spiders. And the crocdiles. And the scorpions. And the casowaries. And the buffalo. And the sharks. And the box jellyfish. And some of the sheep. And sheilas named Shelia.
But other then that its perfectly safe.
Oh and you don't want to face down a red roo. Oh and he paralysis ticks.and ivan milat wannabes.
But other then...
Fuck forgot about the inch ants.
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>>28584867
Nobody WANTS Afghanistan, lol
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Australias defensive strategy is as follows. Allow the enemy to land. Cut his supply lines. Watch as the fuckers die of thirst. Repeat as nessesary.
Our major bases are up north and would be wiped quickly but alot of oir i.portant strategic assets and all our sf sits bellow the brisbane line. These assests are the ones most suitable to attacking logistical trains.
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>>28584820
cane toad plz go
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>>28585558
I didn't want to mention them due to OPSEC, bro. I'd be careful, the intelligence services can monitor your shit. You might get a knock on your door soon. If you keep a regular routine, I'd keep my eyes up and scanning the trees if I were you. They take this shit serious.
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>>28585603
And that is just the shit you guys know about.
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>>28585116
>>28585573
Wow, remind me never to go to australia ever.
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>>28585847
In all seriousness its not that bad. I grew up in the country and spend 8 years in the army wandering around the in the bush.
All you have to do is be smart about what you do. The only true predators you have to worry about are crocs, everything else will only attack you if you provoke them or you aren't paying attention.
As practically every mother who raised my generation would say "its more afraid of you then you are of it".
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ha
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>>28584867
Australia already has infrastructure, though. Afghanistan (outside of Kabul) doesn't and never has, really.
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>>28585847
Wolf spiders exist in Europe and the Americas too.
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Yes because China has no power projection capability
No transports, no logistics, no means of supporting an expeditionary force
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>>28586168
That's a funnel Web spider
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>>28586207
In which case, those exist pretty much everywhere in the world.
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>>28586193
They have 4 new LHD capable of carrying a marine battalion

And a bunch of small landing craft that aren't going to be going into the open sea
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>>28585169
Britain has two divisions in its army. Australia has 3 light brigades
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>>28585491
>2-3 divisions
A single brigade. Their 4 LHD can carry 500-800 men
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>>28585717
There are three reserve special forces units exactly for this, the norforce units
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>>28586321
Also a bunch of landing craft that weigh between 800-4,500 ton, that shit wouldn't leave their coast without heavy escort
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How quickly could Australia develop nukes if it wanted them really badly?
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>>28585717
>Our major bases are up north and would be wiped quickly
By what? China doesn't have bombers and any carrier strike would contend with local fighters
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>>28586364
We don't have a nuclear power industry so we couldn't
A dirty bomb could be made out of the material in the Sydney test reactor
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>>28586305
Australia has two divisions.
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>>28586399
They actually were intending up until the early 1970s to develop a limited tactical ability, that's why the F-111 was acquired and the test reactor built
The next stage was to build a plutonium power station in the ACT, to circumvent state opposition, to produce weapons grade material
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>>28586441
2nd division is the army reserve
1st division is the active army and has 3 light infantry brigades
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>>28586364
Australia has around 1/3 of the known uranium deposits, and I believe 13% of global coal reserves? The only good thing about being pretty much temperate on the coast and "no rainfall for 20 years" desert in the interior. Pretty much nobody has ever been in office that said "We think we should create nuclear weapons." but there was quite a lot of research on the side especially during some of the nuclear tests in the interior.

Besides that, the size of the bush is literally retarded. Anyone who's actually been to the outback proper (very uncommon these days with all those asian weaboos in Sydney) can tell you there are plenty of places you could set up that you won't be seen from the air.

>>28586399
There's actually like 4 different reactors within the currently operating Sydney reactor, and while the old-ass one is bricked up it could still be operational (if what they said during the tour wasn't bullshit.)
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Just had a look at Australias military personnel and equipment numbers...

60k personnel for your entire armed forces?
Airforce is a bunch of F-18s and your Navy is basically 6 diesel subs...
59 main battle tanks?

What is the point?
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>>28586244

not atrox species dude.
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>>28586462
British 1st division has 7 brigades, 3rd division has 3 mechanised brigades, and there is the independent air assault brigade
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>>28586468
>Pretty much nobody has ever been in office that said "We think we should create nuclear weapons."
Nope.avi
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction#Nuclear_weapons
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>>28586504
Air Force has AWACS and transports and tankers
Navy has frigates, guided missile frigates, soon LHD, soon air warfare destroyers
>what is the point?
The point is not ego stroking
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>>28585405
>Emus arriving to the battle of Vegemite's Deep

The chinks will have to develop some real good supply lines because a large part of Auss is inhospitable.
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>>28586468
>Not Including Alaska
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>>28585405
>Emu's sqwarking or chirping like a bird
Ugh.
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The outback is the perfect place for road mobile ICBMs, don't even need to worry about a counterforce strike because the civilian population is literally zero.
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>>28585405
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>>28584820
>Invading a country where it rains spiders sometimes.

Good luck, Jackie Chan.
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>>28585421
Don't think Austrians have anything to worry about, son.
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>>28585603
And don't forget you can't pick up sea shells or they'll kill you.

>not even kidding
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>>28586780
Fuck. I forgot the cone shells.
And the blue ringed octopus. And the stone fish. And the blue bottles.
Anyway. Its won't happen. We are too important to china by giving them degrees from our top univeristy despite the fact that all there students are rapantly cheating.
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>>28586151
Australia doesn't really have modern infasturcture outside of their urban centers. Once you get a few dozen miles into the outback it might as well be 1823. This is were a military like China's would have trouble, not invading and holding urban centers, but preventing troop movement and potential flanking in the vast swathes of land around them. Not to mention the staggering logistics of feeding and arming troops stationed in what are essentially isolated oases on a desert island the size on the United State.

That said, I would absolutely 100% pay money to see a full scale north Africa style tank battle in the Australian outback.
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>>28586364
They have uranium, but the would have to build a nuclear plant first.
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>>28586331
You're kidding yourself if you think NORFORCE are special operations....recon, yes. SF...no fucking way.
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>>28584892
When you go to war with Australia or New Zealand you have to count both their armies. Admittedly the NZDF is small but it's still something that shouldn't be ignored.
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>>28587562
Or this thing
https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dendrocnide_moroides
>Be soldier
>Inna outback
>dem military rations running right through you
>squat behind some shrubs and do your royal duty
>sees green plant
>looks like grade a soft as a butterfly premium wiping material
>grab and use
>millions of microscopic glass shards embed them selves in your hand, anus, and sphincter.
>so unbearably painful you shoot yourself with your service rifle

And that was one of the queen's men. Imagine chinese conscript 3746 see his friend off himself after wiping his ass with some sort of devil plant. Australia has built in psy-ops.
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>>28588530
Gympie bush, I hit my face with it....pure agony. The bristles are little needle like objects that open your pores to the outside environment. Strapping tape air duct tape over the wound and ripping the offending shit out.
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>>28588589
The recommended treatment is to actually use waxing strips to remove as many as possible, and then literally try and disolve the remaining bristles away with diluted acid. Even then, people still report feeling slight pain years later
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>>28588662
I don't usually carry waxing strips around with me innabush. Not a bad idea though m8.
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>>28585573

>Chinese general is successfully choked out and assassinated by an elite squadron of kangaroos
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>>28585147
This.
China already owns pretty much everything of value (apart from muh natural 'beauty' and tourism) in Australia. Invading would be redundant.
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>>28586362
>4,500 ton
>not able to go open sea

Okay senpai.
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>>28585573
Wait so did it kill it or just choke it out?
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>>28588886
Just subdued it, you see it limping off very gingerly shortly after in the full video.
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>>28584951
Thank god for the CMP
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>>28588530
Or blister bush.
>Be part of lucky 5% that is immune to blister bush.
>Walk anywhere I want with impunity.
>Friend tried to follow me.
>Within minutes his entire face was swollen up to the point that we could swear he'd gone ten rounds with both of the Klitschko brothers at once.
>Next day his face is covered in blisters and can't open up his eyes.
>End up popping an e-perb and getting him picked up by a bush ambo.
His face wept puss for weeks.
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>>28585405
what in the fuck is that
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>>28586744

But i thought Austrian was a Britian colony?
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>gooks attempt to invade
>half of their fleet is at the bottom of the ocean in 2 hours
>5 guys burger and fries turns up and mops up the rest in 6 hours
>mainland china irradiated wasteland within the day
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Simple China invades, we destroy all our dams, Chinese have nothing to drink and have to import water, and all dehydrate, also the little chinks would be scared of the outback and it would be like Americas little learning experience in the Middle East.
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There have been studies on this. A war for australia would involve exposed supply lines and an invasion force that could be seen from very far away. All capital cities are bordered by natural defenses and the army already occupies all strategic positions. Victory for the invaders is very unlikely without huge casualties and even more unlikely to completely conquer the country.
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Sans memes, no. China will be a competitor for the superpower position in 20 years time and has produced more surface combatants in the last 10 years than we ever have in recorded history.

SEA and other close countries though? Absolutely.

We're making major strives to modernize and develop our military and have the following things in the pipeline
>100 F-35As
>12 EA-18G Growlers
>8 P-8 Poseidons
>10 C-27J Spartans
>2 more for a total of 7 A330 MRTTs
>7 MQ-4C Tritons
>At least 4 MQ-9 Reapers
>2 LHDs
>3 Air Warfare Destroyers
>8 AIP Submarines

Our regional rivals have pitiful force projection capabilities and their combatants are either soviet or US hand me down shit
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>>28588458
So fucking far from SF. They are abo chocs mainly with such a low retention rate its ridiculous.
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>>28584820
I mean I could see a situation where China might be able to hold some ground on the northern coast but actually occupying the whole country is just unattainable.
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Tactical nukes would solve all these problems, no idea why the Australian government is so pussified, fuck me even the UK has nukes.
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>>28590799
Mostly because the abos cried 'muh nature links' when it was suggested it be set up in the middle of nowhere, and everyone in town don't want a reactor or anything nuclear-related near them. Although they're offering $10 million to towns that let them store nuclear waste near them now, or something along those lines
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>>28584820
the absence of strategically significant features in the Australian interior would mean that ground forces would only be limited in movement by supplies
shit would play out like a romel fantasy

all the ctties are on the coast, so if an attacker had naval superiority (see: any more than 6 boats with/without firepower) they could shell all our major cities

>citties shelled
>populous scatters across the interior
>no supplies for invaders, would have to escort all their supplies over land in convoys
>no ability to defend captured land
>naval link venerable to interception

the only other thing of note would be the geo-pollitical implications of threatening the shipping routes in SE asia


so yes, almost anyone could overpower us
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>>28584820
Every is design to kill humans in Australia including the people who live there.

Plus. Australia will never fall to Communist invasion!
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>>28586560
The point is we have no fucking standing army to speak of. NZ could probably fuck us up, if they weren't too busy fucking sheep.
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>>28584820
Yanks wouldn't let their spy bases at pine gap and geraldton go under. Where else would they pilot drones and dissect aliens?
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>>28584820
Why would someone invade Australia, there's nothing there.
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>>28593096
Logistics? Repopulation because China is inhabitable?
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>>28585147
Lebensraum & women
>>28586562
They would simply take the Australians logistics network.
>>28586375
'australian'-chinese turn up up and mortar fuck out the base/runway
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>>28590982
>populous scatters across the interior

congrats, you just ethnically cleansed yor country for the invader.
>>28591163
Diego Garcia
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>>28586462
1st div is 7 infantry brigades 3rd div is 3 armoured infantry brigades (challenger, warrior ifv) there is also an independent air assult brigade. 1st div is mostly professional soldiers just with a much larger amount of reserves than previously.

The navy also provides an infantry brigade. Artillary, int, helicopters etc are in seperate brigades and attached as necessary.

'Reactive' army focuses on conventonal heavy duty war fighting, adaptive on counter insurgency (mostly made up of light inf it can retooled for conventional war with enough notice)

Commando brigade and air assult brigade are very rapid reaction. (Though light inf brigades from adaptive force also rotate into being very high rediness).

Special forces belong to the Directorite of special forces ( UKSF ) which is outside army ORBAT
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where do i sign up?
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>>28588398
Have you ever been to the fucking out back Or heard of the fucking Bruce highway you dumb cunt
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>>28593227
>Lebensraum & women
They already are doing that...
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>>28584820
Well if the Brotherhood of Nod can do it than I'm sure China could.
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>>28593446
>bunch of Bruces in the land down undah
>build a highway for blokes like Bruce to cross the country to see their mate Bruce
>take the Bruce highway
Your country is a massive fucking punchline, you can't make this shit up.
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>>28593446
The bruce highway doesn't go through any of the outback, maybe skirts it for a few hundred miles, but it's not a highway through the outback you troglodyte.
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>>28590758
They literally disappear on patrol sometimes.
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>>28585573
Oh shit senpai
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You cannot invade the mainland Australia. There would be a boomerang behind every kangaroo.
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>>28584820

>implying Americucks wouldn't come to the rescue
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>>28584820
No. They couldn't.
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>>28590341
Don't mind this swoop cunt. He was trying to make a joke about Emu's attacking, but he doesn't know Emu's don't sqwark like birds.
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>>28595928
>he's never heard of the name 'Bruce' before
Ugh. Leave your mom's basement once and a while, champion.
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>>28585603

I've always called them 'cunt ants'. Those fuckin cunt ants tho, they're not like regular ants, they fucking see you, they look you right in the eye and say, "i'm gunna crawl up your leg and fuck you up, cunt.' I wish I was joking.
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>>28589130
>Australia, where the animals are more manly than the men

You fuckers killed the manliest man that your country ever produced. What do you have now?
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>>28593139
>China is uninhabitable
>So lets repopulate in Australia
Not the smartest idea they had.
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