Full-automification

>>28569256
Son, you're 8 ways of retarded.

>>28569256
This is a good thread

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>>28569299
;_;

>>28569256
Neat concept. Possibly??

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>>28569256
Just make it use a clockwork spring.

>>28569371
Thanks! I'm obsessed with this now, someone with the skills and money to waste should try this with some italian cheapo replica.

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>>28569396
It works well with black powder, unlike a gas system design.

>>28569396
HA! Brilliant! A wind up revolver :D

right so since I'm lazy and retarded I'll assume the cylinder gap closes on this revolver
so when it fires, the gas from the ignition should be enough to push that piston at the top back that transfers the energy to cock the hammer all the way back, under the lazy and retarded clause I'll also just assume that cocking the hammer also rotates the cylinder but the hammer has to make it all the way back before firing.

I dunno but I have a strange feeling this wouldn't work.

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>>28569410
Don't have a picture but they also made a carbine version that was select fire and possibly held more than 6 shots.

>>28569399
dont be obsessed with a terrible idea anon, there is already semi automatic pistols that do this, for the same price and no effort.
it wouldnt be automatic
it wouldnt be worth it

>>28569434
The hammer spring would have to be modified as the hammer would have the extra mass of the gas piston and rods/linkage. Of course the arming of the hammer also rotates the cylinder as with all revolvers.

>>28569478
I'm obsessed with many things sometimes with several all at once...sometimes enough in fact i'll actually make them myself. (110 bar HPA bolt action 20mm shotgun, ball mill, 800lb capacity hand truck etc. diy projects.)
Actual firearms are beyond me legislatively and tooling wise, as I no longer have access to machining equipment.

>>28569256
Might as well make it gas operated. While you're at it make it magazine fed too.

I know there's a guy out there who's done exactly this. I saw pictures too, he made a gas operated SAA.
Of course now I can't find it, but I did find something similar:
https://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=446857

>>28569635
Nope. That one used the gas to eject only, he even says he still has to cock it each time to fire.

>>28569256
If this actually functioned it would be illegal as it would make the gun full auto. It would essentially fan the hammer for you

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>>28569687
Legal schmegal! Don't tell no one bub! Don't be a snitchy bitch.

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>>28569256
>Full-Auto
No Anon, it would not be full auto.
>Semi-Auto
I guess it would, i don't know how much gas is lost from the cylinder gap and if it would have enough but i can only assume it could.

You could make it aim Colt SAA Style with the sights on the top of the first arm and they line up when the hammer is back. But your sight height over bore would be ludicrous.

4/10 anon, there was an attempt

>>28569685
I didn't say that was what op was asking for, I fucking said similar

>>28569256
I don't get it. what's the point? this wouldn't make it full auto. it would still require you to pull the trigger every time, accomplishing literally nothing. except I guess it would be a nice SA trigger every time instead of DA?

>>28569766
Actually if you held the trigger down there's no reason it wouldn't keep firing, just like fanning but the has system fans for you.

>>28569766
I assume he means that if the trigger is held down, the gas will have enough power to rotate the cylinder and push back the hammer, which would automatically release due to the depressed trigger.

>>28569256
Yep, gas pressure (Or lack thereof) is your biggest problem. You would need a length of barrel going past the gas block, but the biggest issue might be the revolver gap.

>>28569947
you could use a system like the 1895 nagant revolver to solve that.

>>28569932
fanning is a great way to fuck up your revolver

>>28569947
Maybe just increase the piston diameter, lowering back pressure. Maybe even make it coaxial with the barrel, cylinder sleeve resembling a silencer.

>>28570004
this seems like an awful lot of work for no reason.

>>28570025
Not really.

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>>28569755
>bub

>>28570025
I think this might be fudd lore.

>>28570876
>>28570174
why not actually do research before posting? yes, fanning is bad for a gun. it's a great way to fuck up timing. You can modify a gun to be better for it if you so desire.

>>28569687
Yes. I can see the mechanism that pulls the trigger.

Here you go. Just apply it to your single action.

http://www.standard.net/Entertainment/2016/01/12/Browning-s-Flapper-the-holy-grail-of-machine-guns

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Sean Connery for size. This is an automatic revolver.

You'd probably need ridiculously strong springs in it.

And it probably wouldn't work if you held the trigger down.

>>28573438
penis is bad gun is good

>>28569256
You have never fired a revolver.... Have you.

Untill you reset the trigger the hammer nor the cylinder will advance

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>>28569256
Jim March did this with his FrankenRuger experiment. The last time I saw an update it used a gas tube to cycle the cylinder, recock the hammer and eject the fired case. Once he had the ejection system working he fitted a magazine to reload the empty chambers as the cylinder indexed past.

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>>28573636
Not true of the old Colt actions upon many SAA clones, including the Blackhawk, are based. These did not have rebounding hammers, so pulling back the hammer with the trigger held will index the cylinder to the next chamber.

>>28573636

you've obviously never fired a single action revolver.

>>28569687
But if it's not a firearm (antique), how would it be a machine gun?

>>28573726

>Once he had the ejection system working he fitted a magazine to reload the empty chambers as the cylinder indexed past.

Any pics of that?

>>28573726
>>28573772
Hells yeah, first thing I thought of when I saw OP's post.
Here's the vidya:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4XtVldNbO4

He also gives NRA funded talks to schoolkids in CA, so he's doubling down on God's work.

>>28570082
Its fun making things complicated, even though machine guns already exist

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>>28573438
Forgot to answer OP's question. In most countries where full auto is controlled it specifically includes "any mechanism that produces automatic firing".

>>28573769

I'm sure they would claim that it's no longer antique once you do that to it. Or they would claim that the "machine gun" definition does not make that exception.

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>>28573814
That's the one! I remembered the details incorrectly, it's not self-cocking but it is self-loading and self-ejecting by means of a gas system. End result is a nifty 14-shot 9mm revolver. Not practical but a darned neat bit of engineering.

>>28573814

Thanks! Too bad there is no good way to side load the cylinder for a more reasonable magazine.

>>28573944
>>28573814
How was it converted to 9mm, btw? Do they make cylinders for that?

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>>28573959
He stated his cylinder was a custom deal from Bowen. I found his discussion of the project if you're interested in the specifics -

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=510250

>>28569598
pics of the shotgun?

Even if the cylinder gap didn't take too much has out for the thing work, pushing the hammer back doesn't rotate the cylinder. You'd still have to pull the trigger to bring another round around. Might as well get a double action dude...

>>28573853
Antique machine guns actually aren't exempted, but as far as I know that's only applied to cartridge guns. I'm not sure if a full auto caplock revolver would be illegal.

>>28570929

That's why you sell your fanning gun before it gets too fanned out

>>28575088

It wouldn't, in the same way that full auto blank guns are legal

>>28574503
I'll try to find some....the main piston valve is pretty worn out. Something to do with the enormous acceleration forces it was subjected to when firing. I never got it to work as smoothly as I intended originally as the machine shop i did most of the parts closed down and i didn't want to spend the money to outsource the modifications. It ended up being a mule for my experimentations with different storage volumes, pressures and different valving. So its quite ugly.

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>>28569441

Their rifle was a bit different (unless they also built carbines off the pistols, which they may have). But yes, similar mechanism and essentially Ye Olde Full Auto.

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>>28569256
Yeah that's a thing OP.

>>28578013
Cunt.

>>28578042

Good morning.

OP here found this about modified auto-cocking DA revolvers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB3B4kYpi2Y

>>28578762
AAAAND THIS, case closed, just ruin an old SA revolver or one made of shitty materials and it turns into a full auto....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9Z0d2eYJoQ