Whats best in the 4 inch "compact" range? Give ups and downs and why you would carry it.
I'd go with the PPQ, it has a really nice trigger and a super short reset.
PPQ and VP9 feel pretty much the same to me. Though I prefer the PPQs mag release.
Sig P320 feels more or less like any other sig in the hand but doesn't have that DA/SA trigger, and it has a higher bore axis over the PPQ and VP9
Theyre all really nice but if just one of them was offered to me, I'd grab the PPQ
>has never shot a vp9
>has probably said that they don't work in the rain
>people still ignoring the sheer number of GOTY and acclaims
>Paying attention to or taking advise from that bearded dicksuck and his "military arms channel"
>poorfags still hating quality
>still jealous of the first company to make a polymer pistol
>still mad jelly of the fist company to make a striker fired pistol
>probably owns a glock
>probably has put less than 10k rds through handguns in his entire lift
>Whats best in the 4 inch "compact" range?
Of the ones you listed, the Glock 19 is the best. It's the smallest, lightest, the most proven, and has the same capacity as the others you listed which are much larger.
Of all possible options, I am very partial to the HK USP Compact LEM. It's almost the same in height and length, and just a hair thicker and a couple ounces heavier. It is hammer-fired and shoots better, IMO, than any of the striker-fired pistols on the market. The LEM trigger is superior to a Glock trigger in crispness, with none of the disadvantages of hammer-fired firing systems. It has a light take-up, heavier "wall" breaking point, and short reset.
It does some things right. If you just need a carry gun and you will never be shooting it recreationally, it might be enough for you, but I would not personally spend my money on one. There have been many reports of them breaking after only a few hundred rounds fired through them, and I've seen enough youtube videos of them malfunctioning to doubt their reliability.
so looking for a first handgun and i like the look and feel of the canik tp9v2 my lgs has one for 325 and it comes with a lot of goodies for the price.
Which would be a better carry/pocket gun: a LCR or S&W model 36 or colt police detective?
>5 sig threads going on at once
$325 isn't a bad price, I've seen them go online for that much and that's before shipping and FFL fees. From the reviews I've seen it's a good gun as long as you don't mind supporting Turkey. Also realize it's a full-size so concealing it might be difficult, but 18+1 is nice to have.
>even acknowledging the 320 as anywhere near the 22- series
I own one. They're really not that great aside from the grip. Mine's been somewhat reliable when clean and fed strong ammo, but I wouldn't use it for self defense.
PPQ m1 if you must PPQ. Only gripe I had was the PPQ was all plastic even the sights. Frame rails and all. Sure you could get a steel guide rod for it but you would have an extremely ergonomic glawk.
Was outbid on this and got 10 minutes left, should I rebid and try too get it or pass on it: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=536819012
I have around 800 through my VP9 with no issues. If I could change anything it would be stronger springs but I like them weak because its a good range gun for beginners.
This, I love mine.
I know what compact means in the gun world. The Glock 19 and P320 Compact are considered "compact". They have full-fingered grips with 15 round capacities. The PPQ and VP9 have longer grips the same length as something like a Glock 17 or 1911. They are not compact.
I have a 4" FNS with a full+ 17rnd grip and it's no "compact" either.