Pat Mac interview on In Range TV
That guy is fucking awesome. I really like how he said "I'm just a civilian now" he seems to have completely avoided the Larry V. and other fucktards blunder of insisting he's THE final word because of his experiences. Seems like an incredibly wise guy.
This is where the quote on the wall is from BTW. Before someone asks.
Also, more Pat MacNamara video.
>Does your range drill include pushing trucks?
>ian interviewing him
dys gun b gewd
It's worth the time, he's cool as fuck.
No shit, he's like a way more intense version of a Jedi.
You seen his military career? Fucking spied on the KGB, did all kinds of operator shit during the Cold War, supported CIA operations behind the Iron Curtain, and THEN he joined Delta.
Heh, no shit
>Gonna do this rifle to pistol transition
>*Starts walking to shooting position
>Actually, let's make it harder
>Speed climbs a 30' free hanging rope and pushes a fucking full sized truck off the range
>Runs the rifle-pistol drill
I like how Karl was looking up to him like a kid.
I guess we know why he;s not as fat as when InRange started.
He says more than that, you just didn't listen.
Seriously? I need to see that if you can find it. I'd love to see some of his work.
>InB4 he stands a HVT in front of a canvas, blasts him with black paint to create a silhouette, then plugs him in the skull with a .45 to create a death image complete with bullet hole and blood spray.
>stands a HVT in front of a canvas, blasts him with black paint to create a silhouette, then plugs him in the skull with a .45 to create a death image complete with bullet hole and blood spray.
That would be metal as fuck.
Has a damn good fitness program too. Really pushes the PT. Which i like because it reallyouts the wannabe's.
Dude is a fucking beast at almost 50yo.
I would guess he's 49 or 50
>joined the military at 18 (maybe)
>did 22 years and retired in '05
>add 10 years
Dude's a fucking monster for his age regardless.
And yet he's the coolest guy and seems to be genuinely supportive of people that are working to improve. Even if they're on the shitty side of physical.
You seen his SENTINEL stuff?
>Oh sweet! I want to try some of
>Workout I can't physically do
>Another I can't physically do
>Some shit I don't have the upper body for
Well... fuck. Guess I'll go do some push-ups.
>watching his mannerisms and listening to his voice
>those horrifying grunt screams when he runs hard
>that special forces resume
I think if this guy came up to me and said "I wanna fuck you in the ass", the toughest thing I'd be able to say back would be "for how long"
I hope I can keep that kind of fitness into my late 40s. Im in my mid 30s and while I still row, rock climb, and cross country a lot, every year it seems a little harder and takes a little more effort to better myself.
Pat MacNamara... Truly an inspiration.
Until he pukes, clearly
Pat is one of the strangest, most inspiring, and most terrifying people in the military/gun world, and I really hope I can do a class with him some day.
Ive been doing 400 crunches, 400 pushups and 100 pullups nearly every day since high school.
easy peasy, I'm not ripped by any measure, but have been wearing the same sized jeans for the past 30 years.
Haven't been able to run since '97 due to car accident though.
Just find a quick and dirty regimen and hold onto it like grim death.
>Until he pukes
I can't do that. I'm a stocky 6'4". I don't mean fat, I mean I'm not lanky and have a thick core. I'm probably around 12-13% right now (after the holidays). I usually dip into the single digits in the summer time. HGH would be too much and too obvious. Looking at other things though. Already have 3 kids, so I'm not worried about that.
There are levels, m8. Start off with some progressive bodyweight training and work your way up into more intense stuff. If you have arms, you can do a fucking wall pushup and work your way up.
I was in a military bus accident a few years ago, mri showed no hard damamge, but back still goes completely out every few months (soft tissue damage idk?) I was also in some pretty big ass physical brawls, like hundreds of people. I can't afford chiropractor, and dealing with the VA sickens me so I haven't followed through with care.
I'm explain that to ask this, can i get into heavy working out again you think without fucking myself more? I'd avoid days I was really hurting, I just don't want to add to my long term problems.
>inb4 goto a doctor
Nigga, I am poor af, and my local VA really can't be assed to see anyone that ain't dying.
Comparing this guy to Larry Vickers is pretty wild. I mean they're both about the same age, did the same kind of shit, and Pat MacNamara is in far better shape, has a better mindset, and isn't a shilling old fart.
You've got this. I believe in you, /k/omrade.
SAVE THE BITCH TEARS AND GET TRAINING, MOTHERFUCKER. IF ARTHUR CAN DO IT, SO CAN YOU
>I'll do that.
That's what I want to fucking hear, brother. You may not be able to do everything you used to, but you can always do something. Don't let any bullshit get you down.
Holy shit, I think that was the same incident that I got caught up in
>bus makes illegal turn
I got a bad neck sprain but the insurance and lawsuit from the gov paid for everything. I'm pain free and still have a nice investment from the lawsuit from the shitty gov bus driver. Fucker just pulled right out in front of me
Was your bus a white navy bus driven by and filled with soldiers? If I remember right, the accident happened because some fuckhead dropped his binos out the humvee, then pulled over. Then the bus behind him (practicing our convoy SOP of course) pulls over too, my bus didn't notice until almost crashing into the first bus. Veers off into incoming traffic on two wheels, past pulled over bus and humvee, back into correct lane still on two wheels, then does this all again then finally flips the bitch on its side at 60 mph.
At least we'd just done our roll over training.
Congratulations on figuring it out homie.
Training dream list:
-Instructor Zero...for many reasons
Absolutely. He has some off the wall training that really seems like it would fuck with your sense of comfort and normalcy, which would be good to change it up. Beyond that he's a very fast and accurate shooter. Beyond that his personality, energy and awesome fantasy version of English is all a selling point for me.
I was actually just trying to troll you but I guess I did a bad job. Seriously though, look into your tricare benefits if you can get them. I work in medical insurance and tricare covers vets well for shit like physical therapy and pain management. The VA is a shitstorm though
Back home in Florida...
idk, I looked into benefits once, but it was a real labyrinth of bureaucratic stuff I don't understand. I can still sorta work so I do what I can just not what I used to do. I'm sure I'll die in my 40s from the chemical exposures anyway, so I've been saying fuck it. After we got back from astan my fiance and I broke it off and I became a miserable drunk for like 2 years, I think I squandered my chance at tricare and any benefits.
Not a dime from the government since I ets'd. At least I can say that.
But you're probably right, I should do something before I fall apart. I can start on that power yoga stuff soon though, so that's cool.
Get. Tricare. Standard. $150 annual deductible then you pay 20% on medical expenses. It'll at least get your sorry ass into physical therapy
fix yourself. the gov will not go out of their way for you, you have to get that shit done
I fuckin' died! Who woulda thunk it? If Pat McNamara showed up to a birding event I was assisting with it would be the most surreal shit on Earth.
Most people who bird-watch are all older retired white suburbanites who treat it as a social event and light exercise. It would be hilarious to see him next to all these little old ladies and their husbands. He would stick out like a sore thumb, and it would be great.
I don't know, I guess I'm just surprised one of his hobbies overlaps with mine, and even though he could obviously tear the top half a man's face off with his bare hands he still feels the need to preface his hobby in a way as if he's anticipating people would think him less badass for engaging in it.
The crazy thing is, he brings the same intensity to birdwatching as he does to everything else. I remember in one of his interviews he talks about stalking a certain bird for 3 days just to get a perfect still photograph of it.
>-Instructor Zero...for many reasons
I can just imagine Pat wearing casual clothing, taking pictures of birds and muttering shit like get you some under his breath when he does
The silly thing is, Ruby-Crowned Kinglets aren't even an uncommon bird. They are totally adorable though. The smallest birds that I work with on a regular basis, 'til they depart for the north once it gets warm again anyway.
This time of year I can go innawoods and generally ferret one out in a few minutes, so to be innawoods for days to get the perfect shot of one is pretty intense and crazy in a way I can totally get behind.
>GETEWSUM license plate
They do. Shorter guys tend to struggle like big guys in selection. Shorter guys tend to have the napoleon complex, and it gets them injured and wash out on medical. Big guys burn too many calories and subsequently lose steam sooner than others. It gets to them psychologically worse than others.
Dead average 5'11 to 6'1 guys are the most likely to pass.
>Shorter guys tend to have the napoleon complex
>Manlet here, I can keep my ego in check but ruckmarching with tall guys still fucking sucks. That's just life. You cover off or you wash out.
Woops, didn't mean to greentext that second line. Running with tall guys sucks too, I guess. A-at least I'm good at grappling. ;_;
Since we're bringing /fit/ stuff into this, I'm 20 and trying to get in shape by the Summer since I gained some weight around the holidays. I'm resuming Stronglifts, but what are some basic HIIT workouts/routines that I could do?
>maximum elevation on a treadmill
I don't see why not. Go high and go hard and you should achieve the same results, /k/omrade
Why is MacNamara's girlfriend arguing on the comments?
Hey, he's breddy gud.
Vickers is pretty fucked up on the skeletal front, and it seems like he sort've lost his way after he got out. Didn't know what to do with himself. He's hanging with MacNamara for the first time since they were both in, and I think Larry just needed an adjustment and some help. He seems to be improving.
This dude is fucking hilarious
Well, judging from her last name, she's probably his wife now. Also, if it's the video I think it is, i think a guy studying psych commented that Pat sounded like a classic case of a psychopath, and things just went from there.
Pat is in the old school Delta recruiting video. See if you can find him
I... don't have either on my Playlist.
>Fuck it I need to do Mt climbers anyway.
Does anybody here do their own HIIT stuff? Was looking into crossfucked but that shit looks like an injury factory.
>I... don't have either on my Playlist.
I added them to my playlist and had girls with 80's hair running up to me trying to suck me off while I was running!!! Seriously great 80's songs that are awesome need to be on everyone's playlist just because when you are about to die its funny to have 4 dudes dressed like <picture related> trying to be hard, singing at you.
Crossfit can be fine, most of their gyms are good, the price is kinda stupid. Really most of the hate is from olympic lifters(and they have real concerns that are valid) I would look into combat oriented HIIT training or get some workout DVD's that are HIIT oriented to get you started. You can search amazon and read some reviews to find what you like.
You can download Pat Macs workout here
The more important question is why everyone was conflating psychopathy and psychosis.
This works really fucking well. I come from a flatass podunk bayou with no hills, so when I was training myself up to hike the Appalachian trail with it's mountains and shit somebody suggested I run stairs.
I went to a highschool football stadium and just ran up and down the steps of the stadium's bleachers. It worked muscles I didn't even know I had.
I have Kickstart My Heart substituted for Wild Side.
>I have Kickstart My Heart substituted for Wild Side.
Lol, its hilarious you think that matters for shit. He could out work you in any conceavable endeavor. He could beat the shit out of you in the parking lot, ruck all right while you recovered, and do it again the next morning, and he's fifty fucking years old.
>mfw doing this in formation
Like dominoes yo, with broken bones.
Strengthen your core, and your back. Whatever core exercises you can do, do them. If you cant do soem of them, the ones you CAN do will pick up the slack. Eventually, start trying to do back exercises, like deadlifts, squats and good mornings.
At first, just do bodyweight squats, bodyweight deadlifts ( just do the motions). Learn to TIGHTEN THE FUCK OUT OF YOUR CORE while you lift. Engage your abs, back and ass muscles while you lift.
Your core muscles are nature's weightlifting belt. Get the muscles so that when you flex the core, it stabilizes everything else ( namely your spine, discs, etc).
Once your core is better start deadlifts, good mornings,etc. Start with like literally 5 lbs, and move up 5lbs a week. Do lots of reps with light weight, and perfect form. ENGAGE THE CORE while doing so.
If you are anything like me ( multi disc herniation and sciatica), then you will go from not being able to lift 45lbs off the ground to deadlifting 395lbs like I just did tonight. Took me about two years now, no shit.
Oh, swimming helps massively too.
>went to middle school in Korea
>one form of 'calistics' was to run shoulder to shoulder up and down steps
>everyone had to do it in unison
>if anyone broke formation the teacher would lower a pole like a tollgate and
Looking back it was probably to toughen up kids for conscription, which isn't Russia tier bad but still pretty shit from what I've heard.
This is like my worst fear times 10. Very leery of other people, on the road, at the range, just so much stupid all the time.
Hate being punished for other people, was amplified by the military.
I'd have gone nuts if I was in that school.
>Hate being punished for other people
This shit drives me nuts
>Do everything right
>Schmuckatelli fucks up in a way you could not have foreseen or prevented
>But don't kick him in the ribs until he pisses blood! That would be wrong.
The intensity in wildlife photographers is something I understand but could never internalize, had a chemistry teacher who went out in the field for 3 days longer than he counted for becasue he was on the track of a Mexican grey wolf.
You should look up guys who build blinds with beds and living conditions who spend weeks at a time trying to get photos of wildlife like Bence Mate. It's kinda addicting when you're trying to get that one good shot of an often moving animal who could possibly bolt if they see you.
Howe, Avery, McNamara, Miculek and Hodnett could turn just about anyone into a world class shooter/gunfighter given the time, effort and a base level of competence from the trainee. Literally about the most well rounded list for most people's needs possible. Two established, veteran top shelf literal operators who can give you invaluable lessons in how to stay alive in a gunfight or related shitty situations.
A police/general shooting veteran who can also provide useful tips on staying alive, but brings some of the most competent pistol instruction available. The dude's ability to transfer knowledge is unmatched.
An awesome older man and one of the most seasoned competitive shooters in the world. Gotta go fast.
A top shelf long range and precision instructor. Like Avery in his ability to transfer knowledge quickly and effectively.
Zero. Guaranteed fun and guaranteed to learn something, but not in the same class as any of the above
So they should be smaller to do the test to see if they can cut being super soldiers, but then change their bodies dramatically after when they are super soldiers?
Why not just let them eat more during selection? I am genuinely curious. I'm looking at it this way, if they are supposed to be able so live off fewer calories for a length of time, then those guys who go huge after they are SOF will be defeating that purpose.
You aren't understanding me holy fuck.
If they are allowed to become huge af and require ALOT more calories day-to-day after selection, why not let them meet the caloric needs during selection too, if they are giants?
It would make sense to limit SOF people who only need X calories day to day during selection if they were expected to hold that standard AFTER too. But since they don't... why?
For one, it detracts from the selection process. The whole point of selection is that you aren't shit until you pass, so if the cadre has to provide extra food for big guys or reduce ruck weights for little guys, that kind of defeats the point. Plus it's supposed to provide a serious challenge, one that you don't know if you can pass, so if you feel like you're getting any concessions from the cadre that undermines the purpose.
It also provides a bit of a gut check for people. By providing standard physical challenges across the board (caloric intake, ruck weight, distances run, etc.) you learn more about your own weaknesses and strengths.
Once you prove you have what it takes, people trust you to make your own decisions about your weight, within reason. It's rare that people become 350lb man mountains, unless they're 7'1" or something. At 5'11" 205lbs Pat Mac is fairly representative. Mike Pannone (former Marine Force Recon and later Delta operator) was 5'8" and 200lbs while on the job, but has said that he probably should have stayed lighter, around 180lbs.
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Why can't you save Instagram pictures?
Why is /k/ all of a sudden all about Ian, ForgottenWeapons and InRange?
I mean they're cool and all but every time they post something it's posted here. Sometimes even in multiple threads.
What mage FW so popular here? I remember few years back when they had like 10k subs max. Now it's all over the place.
The problem with the guy who is studying psych is he's not licensed and every psych 101 student goes around campus after the semesters over analyzing people off a few seconds of interactions and half-assed observations. The fact that he's saying psychopath means he doesn't know what the fuck hes talking about or that his community college hasn't updated their textbooks in a while.
However, there were the books "On Killing" and "On Combat" that tried to draw a conclusion that service members in those units tend to have a bit of antisocial personality disorder, but just enough that they can still function with minimal impact from post traumatic stress related issues. I'm not too sure on the credibility of the author because he was playing the hot topic at the time of vidya causing kids to go kill people. That and he kept on referring to himself as an airborne ranger, instead of the proper airborne (qualified) ranger (tabbed).
I've got similar shit like that - xrays show nothing and va doesn't want to MRI because of prices. Even get loss of feeling in my toes after what feels like shocks down the back of my legs. Have to appeal the VA, tho I fear I'm gonna lose.
Listen to >>28561706
I feared deadlifts after the injury because I didn't know if I would end up even more fucked up, but I just started small and built up. I feel like I got initially injured from having a weak core, so i rarely trained on it and just did the other muscle groups.
My back doesn't go out as frequently (although it still happens) and it helps you with other lifts.
Find a VA orthopedist and if the person behind the phone or desk gapes like a gormless moron because they couldn't find one in a dictionary look for support groups that will help you. VA has probaly killed more niggas than the Taliban but if you can work the game you have a good chance.
Holy shit. I was prepared for some corny bullshit out of a steroid-addled punch-drunk hasbeen or a wannabe...
I don't think I've ever even heard of anybody half as bad-ass as this mother fucker. This guy is fucking intense. Except maybe Vinning.
Anyone know why Pat Mac has a piece of cloth tucked in the front of his belt in a lot of his videos? I feel like I have seen this on videos of competition shooters as well but can't figure out what it does.
Interviewer Tyler Grey was also in Delta and is in a documentary with another guy about ptsd and recovering from injury.
>tfw finger isn't long enough for that
pro social psychopaths anon.
look up James Fallon. Some interesting shit that could explain a lot if correct.
In response to anons comment on spec ops guys having antisocial personality disorders. Fallon mentions at the end of the first video you are likely to see these kinds of traits in spec ops guys.
Seeing as he's the leading neuroscientist working in this area, it seems he would be an authority on the subject....
But Fallon didn't even do that. He just pointed out it could be an explanation for their behavior/traits at the end of one of his talks. Like I said, it could explain a lot if correct. He isn't a shrink either, he does neuroscience based psychiatry, i.e. PET scans. That's how he found out he had the brain of a psychopath, and to find out if oper8ors do too would require taking PET scans of them as well.
I just don't even have a reaction image for how fucking stupid that shit you just said is.
Around here, we call people that pew raw bullshit like that "Sigmund Frauds"
Went to a class of his late last year in FL. Holy god is he an EXCELLENT instructor. Very to the point and still despite his extensive accomplishments is down to earth. I really recommend his courses. I won a little compettition thing he put on and he gave me hand written certificate of "victory" and a T shirt. Great guy.
Holy fuck, dude's got some good genes.
Could be a fucking book/manga character:
>hur durr army at 18
>hur durr green beret
>durrrr own business & fine wife
like holy fuck.
You must not be familiar with how IG works. Anyone can search hashtags that are in public pictures. Some hashtags like #proud or #greatjob are fairly common. Some like #aliastraining or #certificateofvictory are not. Do yourself a favor and just post the picture only next time Dave.
Not him, but just google the words that are there in parenthesis, like so:
"achieves the #TMACS #patmac #certificateofvictory at the #vehicle #taps #training class which is happening right now. This is" "first(non military) class. We're very #proud of him. #greatjob #aliastraining"
That is a VERY specific example. You don't need anywhere near that much to find you. Anything that is public on the internet (so most things, especially social media) is readily available to anyone that can use a search engine.
Also, you can narrow it down by the website. For example, we know you're on instagram, so you can just put that in there.
Besides these things, other key features like the picture can be cropped and searched for with reverse image search. The amount of likes, time it was uploaded, and profile picture can all help narrow it down.
If you want to be 100% secure, don't post, don't use the internet, and most certainly, do not give out personal information.
Well not really too worried about it, names Dave G and yeah I work for Gun gallery. Anyway my full review of the class is up on Gun Gallery's instragram or FB. I just more or less hoped ya'll would have the tact and courtesy not to dig too deep. Then again this is a place of dragon dildos and such.
>neckbeards and autists who have anime pillows and have sex with guns
Thank you for your service Dave. I'll say hi if I ever visit your neck of the woods. Don't worry, I don't think any /k/ommandos will call up your work and ask for Battletoads.
I am outright stating it. I think anyone who makes it through any Tier 1 selection and training is in the top 10% genetically, this guy definitely in the 1% considering his performance at his.
U wut m8.
Gonna need to see some of dat art.
Fruity rudy is incomplete without Haley's tight pants..
He spergs out on his facebook so much he was told to tone it down.
>Michael Moore says he doesn't like American Sniper so Travis spergs and says he wishes a sniper had killed Michael Moore's father
>Someone asks why a class is LEO only so Travis spergs and says civilians just don't need to know certain things and how dare you question me
I posted >>28596698
I created another post >>28596750
to follow up on my original post, replying directly to >>28596687
which appeared after I had posted and to >>28596547
who asked the question I was answering.
He quite clearly used the technique he described because he mentions the name of the poster >>28596547
Which is Dave.
I'm not sure why it would be so difficult for you to find that out, although you're examining it from different perspective.
100% effort will do jack shit for you if your body can't handle BUD/S/Indoc/RASP/whatever.
That's my main argument. As far as willpower - I have no idea where the fuck it comes from, and no one has been able to give a solid answer. Studies do show that if you believe you have it, you do, and if you don't, you don't, at least to some degree.
However, I think willpower is vastly overrated. Willpower can't do jackshit for someone who is medically disqualified.
That would actually be pretty damn cool of you. If he's an asshole to non mil students that info needs to be documented and put out there.
You are mixing major physical issues with genetic predisposition to success.
Let me rephrase - most people who are somewhat fit and healthy will grind the shit out of their joints while trying to be SOF.
Anyway, I don't think there is much else to say on the topic. We both made our point, and it's an argument that's been covered a thousand times.
I know guys like Larry Vickers, they're high maintenance athletes who gobble ungodly amounts of calories everyday to keep up with their caloric demands and avoid bouts of hipoglicemia in the field. Thing is, once they retire, they have a hard time readjusting their diet and end up getting fat.
Bullshit, my failure to perform is entirely my failt on a mental level. It was a decision.
And my current progress in fitness and shooting sports is also entirely due to personal choice, not genetics.
> is entirely my fault
Agreed. Because you are nothing more than the product of you genes. They make you who you are. You cannot outrun them. You cannot outwit them. You and your faulty genetic code are forever tied and will be unleashed on whatever children you and your woman create.
It really is a fascinating question (I know I sound like a fag saying that). You definitely aren't JUST a product of your genes - you cannot argue that environment is a factor. Though, you can argue that you have as little control over your environment as you do over your genes.
The problem is that while believing that "it's all environment/genes" is logical, it's not utilitarian. It's very likely to make you lazy while feeling smug about it. It's good to acknowledge the science (or the common sense), but still ignore the fact.
I believe in hard determinism (whether it's due to fate or chance) and thus don't think anyone is at fault for their actions in the ultimate sense, but I think people should be held responsible for their actions out of pragmatism.
I like [spoiler]Sam Harris's ideas[/spoiler] on the topic.
Bullshit. You choose if you eat the doughnuts or the orange, you choose to drive or bike to work.
Plenty of fat bodies have up and decided to do it right and got rigged, plenty of good men turned into serial killers
I think people are open systems and capable of change. I just think the totality of one's life is determined by the laws of physics and that consciousness is an emergent property of the universe. It's strange to think about and not necessarily a pleasant idea, but it's what I think is the truth.
But I think pragmatically, it's better to ignore that idea before it turns into fatalism and you become unproductive and unhappy.
And what I'm saying is
>I could get fat
>Or get into better shape
>Or jump off a roof
And I can make that decision at any time, sure there is shit outside my control like a freak earthquake killing me or something but I'm not going to be a marathon runner just because fate determined it, same as I'm not going to be a lard ass just because it was prophecy.
Mfw this 19 year old faggot read the philosophy section on Wikipedia and is now posturing on /k/