why is America so backwards in terms that it hasn't adopted

>>28540167
Why doesn't Russia use a bullup if they're so great?

>>28540167
Theres already a Tavor thread.

Bullpups are being discussed.

SA80 a shit.

>>28540167
>reliable beauty. L85a3.
Heh.

>>28540167
Logistics is what it comes down to. It'd be too different from what we have now that our army wouldn't bother trying to replace muh M4.

>>28540173
because unlike americans the Russians can make a reliable non-bullpup weapon.

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These a good rifle? Also say if I can only get one battle rifle, should I get something like one of these or something like a FAL? Which should I get?

>>28540173
Because they have Ak 12s and Ak 107s

>>28540189
implying every other army with a bullpup service rifle didn't face the same issue, are americans just too incompetent?

>>28540167

Isn't the L85 universally hated?

>>28540167

Because they actually fight wars.

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Fixed that for you

>>28540218
thats sexy af

>>28540218

I like it.

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>>28540218
I want it.

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>>28540167
L85 is ugly

Enhanced Austeyr EF-88 / F90 is superior weapon.

>>28540295
Ugly as sin

The rail is too high. Why is the rail/optic so high?

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>>28540167
>in bed
>hear a noise
>jump to attention
>time2operM8.dll
>call police to get my spoon safe code
>open safe
>pull out tactical spoon head
>run to other safe
>repeat
>take out tactical spoon handle
>thread together
>call police
>"Anon Anonson, Number 1 XYZ street, Date of birth XX/YY/ZZ, requesting permission to use disapproval force to convince home invader that my daughter is not worth raping
>request denied
>fuck the law
>go downstairs
>muslim is raping my daughter
>charge with spoon held high
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>get tackled by anti racist enforcement officer
>"OI OI u cheeky wanker u never called the bobbies to get permishun 2 use reasonbel furce on that paki, ur off to the fockin slamma"
>spoon gets confiscated
>license to carry dangerous weapon revoked
>they take my bike wheel as well
>sentenced to life in prison
>get out in 4 days
>go home
>BBC took my TV
>go upstairs to bed
>machmoud is in it, pumping my wife
>mfw she's not wearing her hijab
>Looks like it's the couch again for me

>>28540321
>operM8
Chuckled heartily.

>>28540167
Because bullpup is stupid
Good on paper, horrible in the real world

>>28540321
holy fucking shit that's funny dude

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>>28540218

>>28540167
They almost did in the early 90s. After testing several models, they didn't see the performance increase they were looking for and decided that swapping wasn't worth the cost.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVRyY5QH9Lo

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>>28540356
>we could have had the G11 mass-produced

>>28540167
Guns cost money

>>28540321
Why have so many great empires and nations fallen?

>>28540218
What a shoddy shoop that is.

>>28540195
You won't be getting an sa80 variation. L85 or otherwise.

>>28540321
>>they take my bike wheel as well
Zozzle'd

>>28540356
Funny how flechettes were researched for years but never a single weapon made it to testing / production.

>>28540167
Stoner perfected versatility, bullpups are going backwards, in terms of versability.

Cause bullpups are gay

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>>28540179
>SA80 a shit.
>>28540208
>Isn't the L85 universally hated?
>>28540295
>L85 is ugly

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>>28540167

>>28540167

The L85 is shit.

The politics behind a military adopting a new weapon for standard US military issue are crap.

The M-16 is better. The M-4 is better. Why would we switch from better to worse, then pay to retrain soldiers?

When an American company makes a fully metal bullpup with only plastic grips where it's non-structural, maybe it'll be something worth considering. Until then, nope.

Bullpups are cool and all, and it's nice to have a large barrel in a small package, but they're not necessary.

>>28540208
A1 yes. Problems sorted out on A2 and they are using A3 now. Most soldiers like it and tge only complaints are that it's heavy and can only be used left handed

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>>28540295
Best bullpup coming through.

>>28540311
Because it's compact and that's where your eye aligns.

>>28540813
There's no such thing as an A3, you div. The new rails and foregrip just replace the plastic handguard, I've done it myself. The actual rifle is exactly the same.

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m4 works better as a club thus it is better. checkm8 bullbutt fags

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>>28540779
At least post the full version.

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The bullpup America needs.

>>28540371
>Implying the average American soldier could've been able to maintain German space magic in the field.

>>28540167
>reliable
>a3
That thing is great until you pick it up
Its great until you wobble it
And it shoots like a fucking sniper rifle... then you have to clean it
And break all your fingers in the process.
>trying to clean the monkeys arsehole

Can we have our FNs back please

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>>28540321

>>28540167
Think of the left handed people asshole. I already have a hard enough time as it is.

>>28540356
Considering how many billions of dollars have been wasted over the decades in programs like ACR and the like without any tangible result, the cost argument ist pretty hilarious.

>>28540208
It's back heavy, which is fairly uncomfortable. It's almost an alien thing to hold.

You go from holding nothing, to holding an L85, and you'll immediately think to yourself "I want to get off of this ride."

>>28540218
If only.

UK is replacing it with LMT

L85 is HK's best modern rifle.

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>>28540218
that's probably the worst shit i've seen

Literally anyone who responds to that positively is a nogunz faggot.

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>>28542815
Problem is it just moved the magwell and ejection port up without dealing with the bulky-ass stock/receiver properly.
Here's what it should look like.

>>28540809
Poor Elle

>>28542216
No they're not.

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>>28540167
>America is backwards
>the bullpup you posted is a piece of shit

why are non-Americans this delusional?

>>28540167
That is the most disgusting thing I have ever seen OP. You should be ashamed of yourself for liking that shitty armament.

>>28540173
Russia have several bullpups in servicebut all of them remained niche weapons.

http://world.guns.ru/assault/rus/ots-14-groza-e.html
http://world.guns.ru/assault/rus/a-91m-e.html
http://world.guns.ru/assault/rus/ash-12_7-assault-rifle-e.html

>>28540173
The Groza exists.

>>28541151
I came in my pantaloons a little

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>>28542855
You just want to hug her and tell her everything's going to be alright.

>>28542879
I..don't even know if this is parody any more

>>28540205

The United States military is large than the entire EU forces combined. Figure out how much it will cost to re-equip the US military (army, marines, navy, air force, and coast guard to include reserves and national guards for all branches) with a different rifle and ask yourself if the questionable improvement over the M16/M4 is worth that cost.

>>28540205
Americans are busy picking up the slack for all you ungrateful cunts.

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Gee, I wonder why?

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https://youtu.be/hXQk6_dg_c4

>>28543095
>how much it will cost to re-equip the US military
about tree fiddy

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>>28540321

>>28541807

>You go from holding nothing, to holding an L85, and you'll immediately think to yourself "I want to get off of this ride."

This made me laugh.

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>>28542879
People shouldn't be able to say what's on their minds or do what they want if its mean.

I guess

>>28543041
I know, right?