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>implying anyone uses IRC
#MEG on Freenode
If you're on mobile look up AndroIRC for the app. Any questions, ask in the thread to get you set up.
For Ranger info, obviously.
All around SOF website. Great info and run by former/active members of every SOF unit. Mentor program. Also has forums for international SOF.
For all Army SF info.
For Navy Corpsman info.
This is an all-inclusive thread for MARSOC/Force Recon stuff. Good site for Marines info too.
For Coast Guard info. Good site, lots of vets able to answer questions.
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Which branch are you enlisting/enlisted/considering?
Ask questions, answer questions, bitch about Air Force recruiters. Just keep it contained to this general
It's really hard to answer that question, because there's lots of different SOF units and there are some differences between them.
For example, if you're in a special mission unit, you don't really play by Army rules at all, and your performance evaluations are classified. Those types of units do their promotion boards in house, completely separate from normal Army promotions, and I don't know what their promotion rates are like.
More "normal" SOF units play by Army rules... for enlisted it's easy promotions up to around SFC, then pretty average above that. Officers, from what I've seen, are about the same as in other branches.
If you're actual 18 series SF, you're going to stay in SF units unless you get a really unusual job. For SF support, it's just a duty assignment for you, and the next time you PCS, it's probably going to be to a conventional unit.
For non-18s, you don't want to stay at SF units too long. Promotion boards want you to have a wide variety of assignments and units, and you need some "real Army" in there with the cool stuff, or else you won't be competitive.
TL;DR Not very different
SF, CA, and Psyops, and technically Ranger Regiment are all SOF. Officers can apply for the first three at 1LT. Regiment is difficult to get into as an officer and requires, frankly, luck. Then there's various flavors of support units, and then a whole bunch of "you don't really exist" special mission units.
For most of these units, officers do the same things they do in other places: plan and lead. Only really unusual types of officers break out of that purpose.
So they're cool with CID but not MP's? Even though you ned to have been an MP to be CID...
Would one still need to earn his detective's badge by being a beat cop for however long?
How does one avoid the small pox vaccine when they have eczema and are joining the Army as a 68W?
I asked this on the last thread with no reply, but that was my fault since the thread was already past the bump limit.
Is it possible to get a PDQ due to ADHD overturned? To elaborate, I wasn't invited to go through MEPS, and was trying to enlist in the AF (in case that made a difference). This happened back in summer of '14 and I've read the rules have softened since then.
As a side note, I experience no negative symptoms because of it and have not in almost a decade.
What is considered too crude a tattoo?
Ive got a tattoo of a cartoon pig puking on my upper arm, would that be a problem?
I had a minor surgery a month ago, but "full recovery" takes three months, I can still do all physical activities and lift or run every day just have a slight amount of swelling.
Should I meet with a recruiter now and just tell him I cant do MEPS for another 2 months? Or just wait till Im all squared away?
I really want to get this process in motion
just wait, two months is literally nothing
probably fine, see a recruiter
I believe they mostly care about racist/sexist tattoos. nude pinup girls, nazi symbolism etc
military brat? if yes then get a waiver, if not then lie. don't give them your insurance info
I leave for Lackland in 5 days.
Man, reality is really starting to kick in. Six years of enlistment is a long time. Sure it'll pay off my little bit of student loans and give me a very solid and secure future, but 6 years, dang its a long time.
Thinking on it, 6 years ago I was in 10th grade, and I guess that felt not too long ago.
Also, didn't win the lottery. Oh well
whats a good ideal jogging distance to help get in /fit/ military shape?
>Running in 45 degree (Celsius, you ameriniggers) in jeans and a t shirt with comfy joggers
>not the funnest thing in the world
learn how to march NOW. Learn what cadence and face movements are right now, and perfect it so that you don't fuck up in front of a drill instructor. Bring a roll of quarters. Wear blue pants and white shirt with athletic shoes and a leather belt. Don't volunteer for anything.
Average intelligence levels - 107 GT score
Decent socializer; though most military people in social requiring jobs are good at being military social, not real world social. So just don't be awkward.
Pass the course and pipeline. Active you have to wait 2 years of service before you can apply.
Mostly do embassy, pamphlets and speakers. If in a tactical compant they often work alongside an ODA to fill in gaps for their mission, such as working with locals.
If you have to stop while jogging, you need to work on it. Basic really brings you up to speed but I recommend being able to max the PT test of whatever branch you're planning on beforehand.
Just took ASVAB with the US Navy. AFQT score: 99th percentile. Yay me, I guess.
Not actually sure what rate I want yet. I can't be a nuke because I'm too old, and I don't have perfect color vision. So I suppose maybe cryptologic of some kind. What rate should I be, /k/?
The best thing to do with a 99 in the Navy is turn around, walk out, and go to the Air Force recruiter ;P.
If you get a 75 or higher all branches will generally drool over your smartcock. I got a 77 and the Marines wanted my dick but the air force had better shit.
just do basic math on khan academy
t. 93 without any education beyond 4th grade
1N3 here, this is what I tell all 1A8s and 1N3s. Basic aint shit, easy as fuck after like week 2, its just a rhythm, same shit day in and out. But DLI was hard as fuck. Dont worry about basic worry about DLI, and dont fuck around in Monterrey too much, its a nice place but you will be spending most of your time locked up in your room studying.
my recruiter is really pushing crypto linguist instead of the job i want. should i? i keep hearing how difficult the school is, and i don't want to fail and become a general airman or whatever.
The recruiters push you towards this because generally there is a sign on bonus, and when you get this they actually get a percent of it. I know many people that say they regret doing it, and would have rather gone mechanic or something they liked. Me on the other hand, even though I hated the classes, they pay you a shit load of money to get nearly an associates degree in a language(even though it might not be the language of your choice). Plus I really liked the Monterrey area of DLI, you gotta find a hobby or something to look forward to while your there or I dont know how you can survive.
Also I forgot to add that if you do fail out of DLI, you might get lucky and they will give you a big list of jobs and they let you choose a couple that you would prefer. I had a friend that was still able to stay in the Intel field after he failed there, but then again I have heard of people getting services or secfo after failing.
Well depending on your DLAB scores, gives you different options in languages. Also the time you are shipped out at basic. They let you choose the languages you would prefer before getting to DLI, but that only helps so much.
That bonus seems about right too, its about what I got, except after tax and all that jazz its only around 9-10k.
>SF, CA, and Psyops, and technically Ranger Regiment are all SOF
>technically Ranger Regiment are all SOF
Yeah faggot, CA and PSYOP are definitely more SOF than the 75th.
Go eat a fuckin bullet you POG piece of shit.
can one take DLAB before deciding? i think I'd be pretty good at it from everything i've read and heard about it. a language like Russian or Chinese would be cool, but the idea of listening to Arabic transmissions/ being a translater in the desert seems like 6 years of hell.
fuck it, like i said, too many ifs. I'm just going to stick to my guns, even if i wont get a bonus.
thanks for answering my questions, sir
Yeah you take the DLAB at MEPS, tell your recruiter that you will take the DLAB but you still dont want to be a linguist, your just curious about your results. And you will never be in a desert (as a 1N3), as a linguist you get only 3 duty stations (maybe 4), Fort Gordon in Georgia, Fort Meade in Maryland, or Hawaii(only if you get Chinese), and if your real lucky with Korean you might go to Korea. And you will never be a translator per se, there are natives for that job.
Kind of funny before I took the job, i said the same thing about Arabic, I wanted any language other than sand language. And they stick me in Persian-Farsi.
so you're working with signal analysis? i was under the impression they are attached to a unit somewhere in the shit. hmm this changes things. someone in a previous thread mentioned "if you get French, you're not going to Paris, you're going to Haiti or Africa." maybe its an Army thing
Yeah we work with a whole bunch of people, basically all the 1NX's to provide intel. Cant really get into it. We even work with civilians, and all other branches. We are just there to listen, and read things. The mission you could be placed on is dependent what unit your sent to. Could be doing real cool shit, or you could listen to static for 8 hours a day, which isnt as fun as it sounds. And you wont ever get French, that's kind of strange.
The languages you get in the AF(that i know of) are: Modern Standard Arabic, Iraqi, Levantine Arabic, Urdu, Pashto, Persian Farsi, Hebrew, Chinese, Korean, Russian, Spanish. If you want to explore the world, get deployed, etc 1N3 is the wrong job. Generally you get station at Meade or Gordon then stay there for the rest of your contract. We dont get anywhere near the enemy, not even remotely. 1A8's on the other hand, they occasionally get to.
Because that is generally a one way ticket to fuck your shit up. I'll give a couple examples:
>Volunteer as dorm chief
>10 minutes later getting lit up because the flight isnt out of the dorm in under .05 of a second
>volunteer as an element leader
>get ripped into because no one knows how to march properly
Literally anything you volunteer for can and generally will get you yelled at.
Hey, /k/, visiting from /out/. I've been thinking of joining the military (USA is my country). I'm a college educated 22 year old male. I'm currently making enough money to get by, but life is unfulfilling. Make increasing amounts of money to buy nicer things until I die?
I've been thinking that with the Navy or Army I'll be able to travel and I know that I will be more disciplined of a person. I just wanted to know if you guys had any relevant experience that you would share.
Never change, fuckboy.
I have an interview with an Air Force officer soon for an ROTC scholarship.
Can anyone give me any advice? What should I do/not do?
I'm generally well mannered, I'm just not keen to any military specific dos and donts besides chain of command etc.
Also, I know that I've 'never' smoked pot and it's gonna stay like that, but are they gonna believe that I've never drank? Wouldn't it be better to say I had some beer with a family member for my birthday?
>are they gonna believe that I've never drank
Nope, but you're both just gunna pretend
Dont fucking admit to anything they cannot prove, I dont know why people are so eager to confess to shit
I'm thinking about enlisting.
Are these usually good questions to ask a recruiter?
I really don't know what questions I should be asking. Also is it hard to go in as an officer if you are a college graduate?
Any 25B's here?
What kind of certifications could I get that would help me get a really good job in the civ world once I get out?
>Want to enlist
>Want to wait until I have a job before I meet with a recruiter so I dont have to tell them Im a 22 year old who has been NEET for almost a year
I-Im really smart guys I swear
There is no ideal distance. You should be running for time, not for distance. Depending on how good of a runner you are you might want to start with couch to 5k, once you can do that start doing speed work (intervals). It seems counterintuitive, but run either for duration, or for speed, don't try to mix them. You can run quite slow and as long as you're not walking you will be getting aerobic benefit from the exercise. Intervals are both an anaerobic workout and practice in running faster. As you get better at running slow, you will find it easier and then you see your speed start to improve.
Is this true? I took an online practice ASVAB without ever studying and got a 78. Confident I can get a 95+ with studying.
to THE base or to basic? If you think you want to have your desktop at basic, the military is probably not for you. At THE base, after you finish your training? Yes, you can have whatever you want.
It's a nice bonus but 14k is not worth doing 4 years of something you don't know if you'll like.
>"If you cant get yourself a job in the cilian world, what makes you think you will last in the military kid"
>There are plenty of people with advanced degrees who used to have good jobs that can't find one now
Lol womens studies isnt a good degree
SHouldda gone STEM you entitled millennial libcuck
of course most of the people with advanced degrees are in shit like history but nonspecific STEM degrees like chem and bio are vulnerable too
When did you confuse "people" with "I"? I'm doing a double STEM major with a good job market
Except in modern society where the sole purpose of getting higher education IS to get a better paying job than you otherwise would of had.
You don't spend (Your parents) hard earned money or get into deep debt based solely off educations sake, it's an investment into your future, no one fucking cares if you're really well versed into a particular obscure field, people only care when it's applicable to jobs.
It's retards like you that ruined it for the rest of us, ya know.
>no one fucking cares if you're really well versed into a particular obscure field
/lit/ literally worships me because I speak greek and latin decently, Im trying to learn Russian now, but its shit
>senior year high school for ROTC interview
>interviewer asks me what my favorite drink is
>"haha, you are not 21"
>"yes but i've been to europe twice and went to mexico last summer"
he seemed to enjoy that. in your case, dotn lie, just tell him your parents let you try some, if he pushes it.
ended up turning him down cuz they wanted me to be electrical engineer or chemical and really didnt care for that. yet here I am in similar sit as >>28541925
flirted with air guard for a while and got 97 asvab without really studying
got 2 pilot ratings now and set to graduate in spring. how much does the dick drooling help me get flight slot? just waltz in to recruiter and ask him where the speedy planes at?
missed my boat ditching that ROTC scholarship, but didnt realize how shit civ life is until I interned this summer.
Am I just asking to be fucked over to even be slightly interested to go into the Marine Reserves to be in a somewhat computer-related MOS? Would the air force, army, or navy reserves more better suited for me?
The army will pay for your tests, but they won't be job related for you at all. The military contracts programmers, there isn't a programmer mos.
Military pays for most tests the first time. They reimbursed my GRE.
What? SOF isn't a dick measurement, it means that you have an unconventional role in combat. Regiment can and has conducted conventional operations in the past. They can fulfill both roles, which makes them rather unique. It's not a bad or good thing.
>technically Ranger Regiment [is] SOF
No, they are SOF. Now piss off back to POGland shitbird.
I've seen you post a lot of stupid shit on here, you should stick to your fucking lane cool guy.
I've decided pilot is the military career for me.
Which branch will give me the best chance of flying a fighter? I know the answer is probably Air Force, but I really don't want the answer to be Air Force.
When some soft skill bitch starts talking a bunch of fucking nonsense about shit he knows nothing about, anyone in combat arms is going to call him out. Welcome to real life.
Is there really that much competition for pilot?
I want to be a Naval Aviator in the Marines.
I mean I assumed there was going to be competition, but I figured if I gave it my all I'd make it.
>In my experience
Which is none; you being a desk riding bitch, lol.
So I want to get into AF security forces for free college.
What's a day in the life of a SF?
What do you "do"?
How often are you eligible for a pay grade increase?
Is it the maximum chair forcing it looks like on the surface, or do you do more than just stand at a checkpoint/at a gate?
What do you even do when you're deployed?
Not SF but have some answers. For the most part, it is either watching a flight line or checking IDs, but there are occasional exercises and they'll do mock runway incursions where you'll practice apprehending people who go on the flightline without their badge.
Pay grade increase is the same for all AF:
e1 to e2 is 6 months from joining
e2 to e3 is 10 months from e2
e3 to e4 is either 3 years from joining or 20 months from e2, whatever's first if I understand it correctly
After that you test for the NCO ranks
Deployments are basically the same as stateside except you can also do convoy duty.
So when living on base, what do you guys spend money on? I know that housing is free, food, insurance and all that, but is the pay grade still high enough to buy amenities that aren't too luxurious?
Can somebody give me a "timeline" of their enlistment process?
Like how long after you first met with the recruiter did you go to MEPS, and you picked your MOS at MEPS on the spot as soon as learning what you were able to do? After boot camp did you go right to AIT?
Im asking because I had my first meeting with an Army recruiter this week, and my friends want me to sign a lease to rent a house that would extend till September of next year
There is literally no reason to learn anything besides reporting statements rank, airmen's creed and core values and chain of command. Chain of command will change when you are there and you will fuck up drill it just happens
>I ruined it for you by getting a better education than you
Portuguese is a fun language if you want a more interesting one, I speak it and German at a moderate level
Remember guys, if you join the military you might turn out like this guy. Some recruiter should put a stop to this, isn't there a regulation about being a cunt while associating yourself with the military?
Yeah, at the base you can have your desktop, tv, consoles, whatever.
What is attractive about SecFor? I always hear that it's about the shittiest most boring job in the military. Is that just a meme?
If you're not retarded you can enjoy plenty of amenities and nice things since all your largest expenses are taken care of. Most people however blow their entire paychecks on food and alcohol.
Security Forces have different jobs, not just ID check. some are k9, some are like MPs, some guard top secret aircraft, RAVENs, some are like CID or detectives
but in reality its the weapon
I've heard NROTC marine option is the most selective of the bunch.
What should I do during my next two years of college to give myself a better chance to get a commision with marine option?
>Enlisting for 68W this March, should I go option 40?
If you get one, sure. Why not?
If you make it, great. You get to go to SOCM. If not, then you still stand a better chance than not of being assigned to an infantry unit because you had to go through Jump School to get to RASP.
Just put in my applications for my shore duty billets. I've got six months left on my submarine.
Any other submariners here?
Anyone else, ask me anything.
seriously what''s the food situation? I just read some stuff about how it's better to get a food allowance than get the meal plan at DFAC but there's no appliances allowed on base. and if you do go on the meal plan you get like 1 choice of meat
>enlisting right before WW3 goes into full swing
Let the IDF die for Israel, stay home and protect your friend, family and countrymen.
Yeah, getting $350/mo extra untaxed money to buy food is better than being able to go eat at the dining facility three times a day during specified hours. Buying and cooking your own food gives you more financial, nutritional, and time control.
The catch? You usually don't get to choose. If you're single and low ranking, you aren't getting food money (BAS).
Seriously the dining facilities aren't that bad. I eat there often, even though it costs me money to eat there.
I think it's just a status thing. I've had junior enlisted say shit like 'only poor people in the DFAC' and 'only poor people live on base.'
Privates will pay shitloads of money to have a filthy ghetto apartment off post that they share with 20 other privates, even though they still have to maintain their barracks room on post.
Officers automatically get BAS and are ineligible for meal cards (except during training). You can eat in the DFAC for ridiculously cheap. I think it's $2.50 for breakfast, $4 for lunch and $5 for dinner.
srs? fucking noice
what about on boats and shit do they gotta pay there
how awful was nuke school and life on the sub? i was a stem major and found my classes easy and sometimes wonder if i couldve gone there, nuclear shit sounds interesting too
>why does BAS provide more to enlisted than to officers?
Well you see... officers get paid more. So they pay out of their own pocket and eat really well.
Us enlisted pukes get paid less, and if we don't get a little extra money for food, we'll die.
>they pay out of their own pocket
i don't know when i'm going yet. I'm trying to decide a codeword to find /k/ommandos.
>call everyone opr8r
>nobody gets it
>back to shitposting on /meg/
>want to be political commentator
>talk about foreign affairs and US foreign policy
Is it a good idea to go Army right after college and try to go SF for dat real world experience? Or should I just not bother joining? I don't even know what to do yet.
>really wanna be operator
>but really want to be able to talk about the things I saw/know when debating foreign policy
Chair force maintainer here. As a drone system operator you will be sitting in a shitty container all shift being an officer's bitch and doing what he tells you and you will probably have to wait a while to ship. Cyber security might be interesting. Juts pass the TS and you're good. Imho you should shoot for special mission aviation or boom operator and just cross train at your three year mark. Do something cool while you're in while it might not be useful in the civilian world.
so enlisted fly the thing for 12 hours until its time to fuck shit up, then they have to hand it over to the fucking officer when the good part happens? that fucking sucks
Nice, my shop is pretty useless because our aircraft are relatively newer nothing really breks. Plus nothing flys out on mids really. Sometimes we just end up helping out the crew cheifs with inspections.
>As a drone system operator you will be sitting in a shitty container all shift being an officer's bitch and doing what he tells you and you will probably have to wait a while to ship
I dont mind sitting in a chair staring at a screen all damn day.
Ive got terrible hand eye coordination I can hardly line up my shoes let alone a refueling boom.
>Special mission aviation
So basically door gun repair guy?
>Do something cool while you're in while it might not be useful in the civilian world.
This strikes me as terrible career advice
Not really, the pilot flys it and the enlisted just controls the sensors like the camera and shit. Pilot flys and pulls trigger. Seriously though, think about going 1A0X1 or 1A9X1 and do something cool for a while.
But it's not because there's something called cross training where you can change your AFSC to a useful task that can help you out in the civilian world. It's just what me and some others in my squadron wish we did.
>Thinking about joining up to be a 68W, can anybody here give me some advice?
Are you willing to be a Health Care Specialist in, say, a hospital setting? That's where the bulk of 68W jobs are.
68W's get sent everywhere and there is no rhyme or reason as to who gets sent to infantry units.
Also, let's say you're in unit that was just in combat. Combat is done. A wounded enemy is lying on the ground in front of you. He's disarmed. It's within your ability to patch him up and get him stabilized. Do you do so? if you say "yes" without hesitation, then you have the correct mindset for a 68W. If you say "no", no one can blame you, but you should not be a 68W.
I don't know any drone pilots but they aren't a fan of reenlisting once their contract is up. I think the AF is actually going to start, or maybe we did alrady but taking pilots from 16s and shit and putting them on a "tour" as drone pilots
I've heard so many bad things about it, are the memes true?
Or is it a good plane?
I don't want to be flying a plane I have no faith in.
(and yes, I know there's a pretty low chance I'll become a fighter pilot)
no shit, this is what my recruiter said (keep in mind he worked on planes for six years before recruiter)
>dude, have you heard of the f35?
>yeah, that new jet, right?
>dude, bro, dude..talk about BAD ASS. these thing, you know, the motors, they PIVOT! shit! i mean.. uhh, what are they called? uhhh..engines..THRUSTERS!
>oh yeah? cool man.
>yeah bro, BAD ASS RIGHT?
his erection was visible through his desk
so just like the movie.
>dammit sir, i want to be in a PLANE again
>Are you willing to be a Health Care Specialist in, say, a hospital setting? That's where the bulk of 68W jobs are.
>68W's get sent everywhere and there is no rhyme or reason as to who gets sent to infantry units.
>Also, let's say you're in unit that was just in combat. Combat is done. A wounded enemy is lying on the ground in front of you. He's disarmed. It's within your ability to patch him up and get him stabilized. Do you do so? if you say "yes" without hesitation, then you have the correct mindset for a 68W. If you say "no", no one can blame you, but you should not be a 68W.
We'll obviously you patch him up, he may have vital info you can use to kill more Hajis.
And just get an op 40 of you want to be in a combat unit
>And just get an op 40 of you want to be in a combat unit
That just gets you a tryout. If you are part of the vast majority of guys who fail RASP, you don't automatically go to a combat unit. You go to wherever the Army needs a 68W.
According to my Army friend, they claim to do urinalysis randomly but he's only ever seen the shitheads of a division get tested and he's never had to piss. Can anybody confirm this? I don't plan on blazing it every week or even every month, but it would be nice to have a toke during a holiday on leave every now and then.
Does anyone know the best branch/MOS/rating to explore the world? I was primarily thinking hospital corpsman as the route I'd love to go, but scored 96 on the ASVAB and am being pushed heavily towards nuke or cryptolinguist.
Also how common is it for recruiters to go to you in other to fill out paperwork for MEPS? My recruiters drove 20 minutes to my apartment at 6:30 to get me to finish paperwork since my schedule during the day makes it hard to go to the recruiting office. It gave me the impression they really want me to join up. Especially as a nuke which they made themselves very clear about.
just max out your apft score. don't worry about rucking, you'll get training in basic but try going backpacking if at all possible. there are exercises to help prepare you for the rucking- the /fit/ guy around here normally has knowledge about this (i'm pretty sure it's weighted lunges and deadlifts primarily). essentially if you're running every other day (at least two miles, try running like 10 miles once a month) and doing pushups/situps every other day you'll be fucking gravy. Maybe get a jump start on land navigation and shit but even that is questionable. The rangers aren't terribly elite- so long as you're fit and have the mindset that pain is temporary you should be able to make it.
>august 2015 talked to recruiter for the first time
>september I went to meps
>got my job a week after meps because I was the last person to get done at meps and they closed before I could get a contract
>Leaving for basic tuesday
I'm 20 years old with a high school diploma, and I got a 86 on the ASVAB.
how do I become one of those guys that gets to jump out of a plane with a dog while shooting at ragheads?
I don't want to be an MP
What's it like man?
Everyone on here will hiss and spit at the thought of being just regular infantry (you'll drink yourself to death, hang yourself etc etc)
Why don't you just give your own input into what your life is like?
Is infantry really that miserable? Is airborne really for ranger/11x dropouts?
Again, holidays only. Holidays on leave. I haven't enlisted yet and am currently a month and a half pot-free. I don't have a crippling addiction. It was just a question.
That's a terrible fucking argument
Just because standard of living has improved that doesn't mean you can't have war. 1910 was probably the highest standard of living for the vast majority of people worldwide, that doesn't mean politics won't lead to the bloodiest war in history.
War won't happen because the superpowers have put in a ridiculous amount of effort to make it not happen. There are so many safety nets that most quarrels have been limited to proxy wars since before you were born and nothing will change short of some Islamic country nuking something
Is it possible to switch from drop out of the DEP and enlist in another branch? My recruiter wasn't exactly honest with what I could get in my contract and I'm in good standing with a recruiter from another branch. 91 AFQT if that means anything in this situation.
Are you saying they will encourage people to be nuke officers? I was interested but I don't have time to do the extra cal-based physics and extra semester of calculus that they want and still graduate in 4 years (double major). Does that mean there's a good chance of getting that waived and getting rushed along like they do with regular nukes?
Because officers make significantly more money I guess. Officers also have to pay several thousand dollars out of pocket for dress uniforms at OCS, not sure if they do if they come from ROTC but probably
You would get better experience by studying international affairs or something and trying to get an internship abroad
They are, and someone already has them, don't remember which branch.
It's a pretty good plane, not as good as the hype but an effective machine, but the project was managed by a troop of macaques and that's why it cost 9001 trillion dollars. Some autists wanted every plane to be THE SAME so they had to redesign the conventional and carrier models in order to be more congruent with the STOVL model.
Correct advice. 68W is not about being an operator medic, it's about saving as many lives as possible even if it's the enemy. It's better to think of it as being a nurse who gets attached to infantry, not infantry with medical supplies.
pretty sure the military contracts all their programming
Lunges with or without weights, deadlift, and squats are all really good for rucking. Deadlift and squats in particular because they train you to support weight, whereas lunges are just leg strength. Everything this guy says is pretty much right. Make sure you are doing planks and armhaulers/supermans for core strength as well as situps- you need to practice situps for the tests but they're not a great core exercise.
what do loadmasters do?
>tfw no parachuting attack dog units
MPs are the only ones with dogs, sorry. Not sure where you heard about parachuting assault K9 units.
It is enlisted. Do you think a job primarily about shooting guns out of a door translates into a civilian job?
Officers also have to pay several thousand dollars out of pocket for dress uniforms at OCS
Just worry about getting into the military first.
But he's right, if you're a veteran, get out and use the GI Bill, and get hired into a federal agency, your peers will be kids who went straight high school==>college==>Federal service.
Will I have to wait a gorillion years to get this job if I try and enlist?
How long is the combined total training?
What's your quality of life like?
What's your favorite ice cream flavor?
I'm fine with repeating a few steps. I'll have to do everything from the physical onward, right? Do you think I could get to boot by july if I drop out and go to the new recruiter Monday?
That's for Army. All the info is public. It's probably public for all branches, but I don't know how to find it.
You do not enlist as an officer. Contact an OCS/OTS recruiter. If you can't find one, contact your nearest enlisted recruiter and explain to them the situations. If they aren't assholes they will point you to the right direction, at least they did for me.
Directly from a recruiter.
Google USAREC Form 601-210.11
It isn't working on my machine though for some reason. I think you need some stupid army specific pdf viewer.
Anyways, once you get your shit back after you have submitted your package, you get results back about those were selected like the avg gpa and shit.
Talked to army recruiter in October, pushed back first meps visit until December (they wanted me to go like next week after talking to them first time), had to go back 2 times because eyesight and waiver. Leave late February
Okay. I got that part wrong. That form is just an evaluation form showing what they look for. At least a snap shot of it. I misunderstood my recruiter. Anyways, I got the average 3.1 gpa thing from a recruiter, So you will just have to take my word for it senpai.
how do I become a k-9 handler?
I love dogs and have always wanted to serve and have a job or career involving them so it sounds like a good combination.
Yes, I am willing to put up with dog fucker jokes.
Can any chairforce men give me the rundown on the following jobs?
I really want to fly and be deployed and shit, so if anyone can give me more info, or suggest other coolguy flying jobs, that'd be great.
To be honest I don't think of any the branches have very high gpa.
A lot of the people doing OCS/OTS are doing it as a backup thing, since most people who really want to be officers did ROTC.
I never heard that and I leave Tuesday
I hope that isn't true. It can't be I mean you get 30 days of leave a year and I'm sure you can squeeze that in somewhere while at the DLI so long as you study while on leave.
I just really want to be a pilot in the Marine Corps.
I was asking because I don't want to spend the next four years of my life preparing for something I potentially didn't have a shot at.
No need to insult, I was legitimately asking
But since you want to be a faggot, my recruiter told me the exact opposite!
See how that statement doesn't mean shit?
i can never tell the inflection here
but since youre going to be a faggot theres no reason why my recruiter wouldve pushed a pilot slot on me unless they needed pilots in no? faggot
this guy >>28559352 is not me (the one you're replying to) but he is right that the Navy is looking for more pilots. Most of the AF pilot slots are taken by people from the academy and ROTC with few leftover, whereas many Navy academy and ROTC students go into SWO leaving many more available aviation spots.