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I'm looking to get a good "all-around" rifle for deer, long range shooting, possibly wild hog, and anything else you'd want a big dangerous black rifle for.

What's the most economical choice for a beginner? I've narrowed it down to a DSA FAL, ar10, and CETME sporter. That's in decreasing price point.

Which of these platforms is the best performer for the price? Anything I need to look for when buying one of these? Any other viable candidates I forgot?
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Oh yeah, and which ar10 builds or manufacturers are the best?
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>>28534265
If you get a well built CETME they'll be just as good as the G3. The CETME only differes in terms of the sights and magazines. Other than that it's just a Spaniard G3. But technically speaking the G3 is a CETME clone.

A lot of gun youtubers and magazines have given the new Century Arms C308 good reviews, but /k/ still believes in the Century meme, so I would take what most of the guys say about the C308 on here with a grain of salt. Handle one for yourself and see if you like it.
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>>28534265
>Which of these platforms is the best performer for the price?

A .308AR is going to be the most accurate.
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>>28534316
Can confirm, my friend has the C308 and C93 rifles and they both run like clockwork, but some models do have bolt headspace issues.
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Just FYI; the CETME barrel is not free-floated like a G3A3/HK91/PTR91. You don't have quite the same potential for accuracy there.
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What's your budget OP?
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>>28534277

Build your own AR-10.
Get the pieces you want.
Save money.
Enjoy firearm.
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>>28534265
Get .308 Verp.
Literally a .308 AK, damn sexy in standard configuration, as spoopy and tacticool as you want with aftermarket crap.

I got a Sporter model myself just 6 months ago, and I love it.
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>people ever trying to justify spending money on a cetme
>ever considering a cetme ever
>buying a .308 sporter
>cheaping out on a fucking rifle that shoots .308 in semi auto

You're shooting yourself in the foot if you ever buy one of those things. Just save up and fork the extra $200 and get something nice like a ptr91 or build your own ar10. They're better built and much more accurate than a shit cetme can ever hope to be.

If you seriously cannot fathom or see the benefits of buying either of those rifles over a cetme, you're fucking lost and honestly shouldn't ever consider touching anything other than a budget ar15. I'll speak for the majority of people especially poorfags on this board.

SAVE UP. STOP BEING SO SUSPECTABLE TO INSTANT GRATIFICATION AND SAVE UP FOR NICE THINGS.
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>>28534265
Take a look at the new version of the PTR91 with the paddle may release. Its about 400 shekels more than a C308 about 200 shekels less than a DSA FAL
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>>28534376
See what I was talking about, OP? The PTR guys are coming outta the wood work.
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>>28534373
>nice like a ptr91
>nice
>ptr91

Stop fucking compromising.
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>>28534378
I don't even own a ptr91. Just an observation from someone who has a functioning brain and only buys not shit guns.

But whatever floats your boat. I understand realizing how shitty your cetme is will only make you sad, considering it has literally no resale value and for all the right reasons.

And way to go deleting your comment fagboii
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>>28534376
>>28534378
I was gonna say ptr or spend more and get DSA FAL or save up and get a real fucking one or even better get a tax stamp and get a full auto FN FAL.
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>>28534265
C308 Sporter owner here

They're really hit or miss. Mine ran great out of the box the first time I took it to the range and then the bolt-gap shat on me after that. Sent it in to get it fixed (they're fixed by PTR believe it or not) and it runs great. Not a very accurate shooter by any means, but it's still a fun rifle to use.
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>>28534265
>Implying FAL isnt the only option
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>>28534404
I deleted that comment because he wasn't shilling the PTR.

Maybe everyones sick and tired about hearing the PTR when someone just wants a CETME? Ever think of that? You don't have to interject the PTR into every fucking roller-delayed thread.
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>>28534413
DSA used to be nice
Used to
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>>28534465
I don't know much about DSA actually, there FAL isn't good? And how are the PTR and cetme ones?
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>>28534504
Both the PTR and CETME are good. It really just comes down to personal preference. The CETME will also be a better value if cash is a problem.
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>>28534434
>You don't have to interject the PTR into every fucking roller-delayed thread.

OP specifically asked for a good "all-around" rifle. And the ptr91 fits the bill much better than the cetme. Just fucking deal with it.

Give me one, ONE good reason to buy a cetme over a ptr91. And no, I won't take your retort seriously if you actually unironically mention the cost on a platform that shoots 50 cent bullets for every pull of a trigger.

I'll wait.
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>>28534504
DSA's fine. FALfags just lost their shit when they switched from using forged receivers to cast receivers, which doesn't fucking matter in the current year.
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>>28534524
PTR bullies can fuck off, give us Century owners a safe space, will ya?
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>>28534537
>give us Century owners a safe space, will ya?
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>>28534342
About $1500 top end. Would like to be <$1200
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>>28534578
Change that to "properly functioning Century guns will come to you, but only if you post thank mr century man in this thread"

It would be better.
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>>28534537
>PTR bullies

made me laugh harder than I should've.
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>>28534537
>give us Century owners a safe space, will ya?

I think there's a place for that. If you really do want a circlejerk of your inferior guns, you can go to pic related.

There's really nothing that bad about century's other guns like wasrs but when you're trying to skimp on a few hundred dollars on a .308, you deserve all the mockery you will get.

Oh and here's the URL for the website incase you didn't know www.reddit.com
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>>28534593
You can build a pretty good .308 AR for $1500.
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>>28534535
It mattered when their barrels went to shit.
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>>28534611
>implying there aren't Century circlejerks on here
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>>28534265
Op here. Shills or not, I think I'm gonna look into the ptr 91. Thanks guys!
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>>28534670
Solid choice.
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>>28534670
Now the choice of look, which does a FAL look better in, black, Belgium green or wood stock, grip and rail?
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Anyone have the DSA Voyager line FAL's?
How are those?
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>>28534741
Depends on your aesthetics
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>>28534373
>SUSPECTABLE

Do you mean susceptible?
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>>28534324
>A .308AR is going to be the most accurate
[citation heavily needed]
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>>28534389
not that guy but why in the fuck would you ever even consider buying a piece of shit CETME when PTR exists?
You are literally setting yourself up for failure and disappointment at that point.
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>>28534578
I still can't believe that somewhere in the world, that guy exists.
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>>28534265
AR-10
no G3
roller delayed blowback a shit
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>>28534265
>Any other viable candidates I forgot?
The one that isn't ancient shit.
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>>28534401

Are those adjustable stocks legal or would I need to get a tax stamp for one? That's the only reason why I haven't bought a PTR yet.
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>>28534917
>the only one with a free floating barrel
>the only one with custom barrel options available
>the only one with a match trigger available
>the only one with a fully adjustable stock available
>the lightest recoil
>the least harsh recoil impulse
>the only one that doesn't smash scopes to splinters
So like are you just pretending to be retarded or what? $10,000 PSG1/MSG90s struggle to beat 2 MOA on a great day, and FALs are minute of cantaloupe if you can manage to get five shots off without turning the scope glass to glitter.
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>>28536520
>tax stamp
Nigga what? Unless your state is extremely cucked, ATF stock length requirements apply with the stock fully extended. Underfolding AK stocks are legal for this reason.
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>>28534277
If a lightweight rifle that doesn't murder your shoulder is a priority, DPMS G2 Recon. It's less than $1500 and is ~80% parts interchangeable with an AR15.

If accuracy is your main concern, build one yourself.

If money is no concern, Noveske.
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>>28534316
>If you get a well built CETME
This is kind of the tricky part, no?

Anyway, OP, if you're not particularly tied to roller-delayed blowback and glorious stamped-steel Kraut space magic, you can probably do better on a given budget by building an AR-10 from parts.
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>>28534265
If you want to spend the money get an original HK91 or if you want to go a little chipper for one go with a PTR-91. Otherwise I'd say a sig or colt ar-10
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>>28536549
>implying you need better than 2 MOA for 0-300yd hunting.
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>>28536596
That being said, I would still say AR10/DPMS GII variant because they are lighter and more modular.

Also, trigger doesn't make the gun more accurate, it makes YOU more accurate, so trigger is always related.
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>>28534324

My dick.....
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>>28534917
>almost all commercially available complete .308AR's come with a 1MOA guarantee
>nearly half of them guarantee 3/4 MOA
Can your CETME/G3/FAL/Hakim/whatever else consistently shoot 3 shots into a <1" group with run of the mill M80 ball? Didn't think so.
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>>28536635
>1 MOA guarantee
>M80 Ball

Who the fuck is guaranteeing that with their .308 ARs? The fucking military standard out of fixed-bench breechloading test barrels is 1.6 MOA.
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>>28534593
Sorry for the late reply, I just got a new PTR FR from Atlantic. Has the bull barrel (IraqVeteran8888 did a video on it recently, very very accurate) and a rail already on it. Finish is amazing and they now all come standard with paddles (a $200 smith job typically) and ar10 threading for muzzle devices. You have a good budget so don't sell yourself short. Nothing really that bad about the Cetme sporter from what I have seen but you are getting so much more with a new PTR.
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>>28534316
>Century meme
>"IF you get a well built cetme"
Case not proven?
>>28534338
>" some models do have bolt headspace issue"

These are the words of proponents mind you.
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