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>if you are still watching it, you are nerd and need a life
Why Ian so mean? Is it because he became very rich?
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>>28530248
i'm watching this right now. does he say that at the end?
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>>28530255
Yep.
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>>28530290
he literally lives in a hole in the ground so who is he calling a nolife
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>>28530309
>not living in a hole in the wall
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>>28530248

That guy's such an autist.
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wew does this have something to do with madakfucbois? dat mudtestdoe
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>>28530309
That he built himself on his own dime

He literally built his life from the ground up
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>>28530388
i was joking, i am jelly of him.
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What's wrong with being a nerd?
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>>28530248
I don't watch Forgotten Weapons anymore, it's too mainstream now (you know when something has reached dangerous levels of uncool when /k/ is talking about it).

I've moved on to more obscure and better things.
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>>28530496
being a nerd
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Pls no bully
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>>28530593
Get a life, nerd.
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>>28530248
>Making a thread about this

Looks like he was right.
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>It's very tight
>I don't want to force it
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>>28530556
>being a hipster
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He took down the video and reuploaded it without the joke.

People were probably complaining.
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>>28530556
Unknown cat?
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>>28531233

>he didn't get the joke
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>>28531345
>This video is private
It's still there, I guess.
Anyway that's quite stupid. Was someone actually offended?
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>>28531423
I thought that video broke after he said that more than anything desu.
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>>28531423
A friend of mine jokingly posted "okay :'(", maybe Ian took him seriously.
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>>28531345
>>28531423
What was the joke?
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>>28531480
/k/ is the joke.
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>>28531480
See OP. He was joking about the lenght of his video.
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>>28531484
>>28531498
Hah, I had it running in the background yesterday while at work and totally missed it.
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>>28530309

>not living in a hole in the ground
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>>28530556
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I thought Ian was my friend tho
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>>28530388
Except that part, where, you know, he never actually worked a day in his life after college, and had that paid for by his parents.
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I don't get it. What did he say?
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>>28533370
He made a video that shit all over the "muh AK runs in ANY condition! muh reliability!" meme

AK fags still in full damage control mode
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>>28530556
>I'm too cool. I watch other things.
>but I won't specify
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>>28533398

Did he take it down?
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>>28533326

> he never actually worked a day in his life after college, and had that paid for by his parents.

No.

Here's his linkedin. He sold solar panels for a living while he was building the qwonset.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/ian-mccollum-b171102b

On one of his old channel videos he also talks about bar tending after college to pay off loans.
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>>28533398
AR fags have been in damage control since its creation
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>>28530248
>>if you are still watching it, you are nerd and need a life
>if you are still watching it

wtf are you talking about

watching what?
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>>28531379
I always wondered if he visit /k/
So I asked him and he said no he doesn't have time to be on here
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>>28530248
He hurts us because he loves us
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>>28530248
oh vey vey vey
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>>28530309
He lives in a quonset hut, about as /k/ as you can get
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ITT: booty blasted cucks crying about their slavSHIT getting BTFO
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>>28533542
There's a screencap of him saying something along the lines of "me and /k/ don't have much in common"
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When are Ian and Karl getting married?
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>>28534752
soon
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>>28530248
I like how he abuse tested a single AR and a single AK and then determined that everyone was wrong, the AR is way more reliable, and he is always right.

I get it, you can't be wrong on your own show, but come on now, enough hot smoke up my ass. It's widely acknowledged and accepted that the AK is very reliable when dirty, and inductive reasoning doesn't change that.
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>>28533461
so he worked 2 years installing solar panels...
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>>28535151
In the Phoenix valley that's a serious job. Pretty much any manual labor job in summer is.
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>>28534948
>In other news the world is flat
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Kalashnakunts on suicide watch.
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>>28530248
Ian and Karl are fucking biased faggots but I respect them for swindling so much out of their viewer base
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>>28535245
Shut up salty sandnigger fanboy cunt
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>>28534948
>muh 1 sample size test is enough to come to the conclusion that x is clearly better than y
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>>28535245

another quality post by this faggot, this is the one that got you filtered
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>>28530248
He never says this, he say "If you're still watching, I appreciate it."


Don't fall for the troll, /k/ids
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>>28531423
I don't care what Ian tells me, and I didn't get to see the video before it was taken down. I don't know how he said it, but the way I said it. Was it clear that he was joking around, or was he legitimately making fun of people who watch his videos?

I can take a joke, but it's dumb to insult your viewers if you are an online personality, especially an online personality who specializes in inquire and rare things that kind of attract a certain type of people anyways.

Again, I didn't see the video so I can't tell if this is people getting butthurt over nothing or if Ian's popularity got to his head. If I had to guess, it's probably the former.
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>>28534000

Was going to post this. Trips don't lie.
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>>28535267
I don't have a problem with inductive reasoning, but when you're contradicting 50 years of battle-tested experience, you're going to need a more convincing argument than what he presented.
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>>28534948
>It's widely acknowledged and accepted that the AK is very reliable when dirty
That doesn't mean it's true. At one point it was widely accepted that the world was flat.

For the record, the AK isn't known for being very reliable when dirty. It's known for being so stupidly simple and rugged, that you could bury one for two decades, dig it up, clean it out, and shoot it without a problem. The key word there is "clean".

I've seen plenty of videos showing the same results as Ian's. I've also seen a couple videos showing the opposite. Choose to believe what you want, but don't discard a video because it doesn't meet your expectations.
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>>28535354
> it was widely accepted that the world was flat\
It wasn't, almost everyone in antiquity knew about the spherical earth, just the size and existence of other landmasses was the question.
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>>28535389
Poor example, but the argument is still true. Throughout history, many things have been accepted as absolute truth, then later proven wrong.
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>>28535401
Yeah, I agree with you, just being a comma fucker.

I would be interested if the whole 'tapco trigger' debate has merit.
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>>28535354
I discredited the video when he drew broad conclusions from independent testing in his backyard. Everyone knows the AR had problems with dirt, likewise everyone knows the AK never suffered the same performance issues in actual battle conditions. Have AK's jammed? Yes. Have they jammed in battle? Yes. But never in the numbers the AR did.

I don't consider Ian or Karl dumping wet clay into receivers to be anything other than entertainment.
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>>28535260
>>28535270
>Ian and Karl buttmad
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>>28535435
>Everyone knows the AR had problems with dirt, likewise everyone knows the AK never suffered the same performance issues in actual battle conditions
Holy shit, please be trolling.
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>>28535435
>>28535354
ITT AK fags still butt hurt
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>>28535464
No, I'm dead fucking serious and you can't show otherwise or else you would. With a primary source from a battle.
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>>28535499
>doesn't post sources
>talks about citing battles as scientific tests
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>>28535435

The AR's problems were mostly due to the Army deliberately fucking things up because they were mad at McNamara for making them use a rifle they didn't pick (Curtis Lemay picked it).

People line to pretend the design changed significantly at some point in the last 50 years which is why it's good now but want then, but it hasn't. It was always a good rifle.

I think it's fair to say that a good portion of the AR reputation (and the AK reputation) can be chalked up to commie disinfo and propaganda.
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>>28535457
I honestly didn't mind you until now.
But tell me, why don't you like them?
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>>28535513
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, friend. It's widely accepted that the AK is more reliable in dirty conditions. If you come along as say it's not, then the onus is on you to show it isn't.
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>>28535464
>>28535524
In terms of documentation the AR has had more problems even discounting the rocky first couple years it still has a history of problems ie the issues during desert storm before word got out to under lube becasue grease or oil attracted grit.

>>2853599
>It's widely accepted that the AK
Unless you read Russian or Arabic it would be kind of hard to find primary sources of reliability for the AK platform. You made the assertion that the 'AK never suffered the same performance issues in actual battle conditions' so backing it up would be nice. I could cite various condition in which the AR has failed and instances where it worked fine
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>>28535499
An anon who was in Iraq recently chimed in during one of the arguments related to Ian's most recent mud test. He claimed that while over there, he came across a great many deal of AKs that were not functional. He said it was fairly common to see them converted into a nigger-rigged straight pull version because of issues cycling.

I've talked to many veterans from Iraq, and none of them ever talk about their weapons jamming. I've made it a point to ask a few who were in active combat about this, and they always tell me their weapons performed just fine.

>>28535531
>Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence
Okay, find me sources where it shows without a shadow of a doubt that the AK is more reliable than the AR in dirty conditions. You're making quite an extraordinary claim.
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>>28535531
Widely accepted by who? People who've seen action movies?

The initial claim is that the AK is a more reliable weapon. That is what requires the proof.
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>>28535530
>has double income from videos and begs for more funding
>makes shitty tests and then claim they are somehow valid
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>>28535599
The extraordinary claim is that the AR is more reliable than the AK. Not the other way around.

It's universally recognized that the AK handles dirt and grime better. If the AR had that reputation then we wouldn't be having this conversation.
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>>28535643
woah there, that's some serious projection

what problem do you have with Ian the gun nerd's youtube videos?
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AK fags still on suicide watch?
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>>28535642
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. It's not extraordinary for the AR to jam in dirty conditions.
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>>28535401
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgk8UdV7GQ0
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>>28535657
Sometimes, ya' gotta know when to walk away from stupid, and that's exactly what I'm going to do now.

If trolling, 10/10 job. If you're genuinely that stupid, holy shit.
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>>28530309
Sauce?
In what kind of home?
I´m genuinly interested.
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>>28535658
>projection
Who am I exploiting with my videos? What tests have I ran? Do you understand what projection is? I never said anything about Ian's YouTube videos. Why so defensive Ian?
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>>28535457
I still think muslimbro is pretty based.
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>>28535670
>>28535657
There's nothing extraordinary about an AR-15 functioning in adverse conditions. It's the military rifle of the best equipped military in the world.
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>>28530248
Is Ian still dating that one girl from his really early videos, or did he leave her for his raifu/Karl?

>>28534932
I noticed that when watching that video, what exactly is Karl doing?
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>>28535667
ya its getting pretty bad.
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>>28535763
Not even that anon, but way to be a fucking dismissive faggot.
>'you made a point and I don't have a retort, so I'm going to pretend you're a retard and validate myself.'
He has a fucking point. AK's have always been considered the most reliable.
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>>28530248

Who gives a fuck what this sperg thinks?
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>>28535829
Now you fucking did it. Here comes the shit storm
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>>28535178
under rated post
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>>28535832
Ian forgot to take off his hearing protection and was kind of shouting so Karl took it out. Shit was a cute as hell moment.
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>>28536159
Is Ian really gay?
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>>28533492
Too slow. He reupload the video without that joke. I wonder if someone saved original.
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>>28533461
the dude's fucking a ME. I'm doing ME. omg we have so much in common
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>>28535311
It was obviously a joke. He laugh after, then stare at camera for couple seconds (like "it wasn't actually a joke" grim stare), then said he actually appreciate it.
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>>28535151
He bartended for years. Stop making shit up just because he proved aks aren't perfect.
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So for all of you who are wondering why based god Ian is getting so much random hate now:

He made a video with Karl mud testing an ak and ar15. Both of them commented that because the AK is more of an open design that mud will probably get in there and it would stop running. Since the ar15 is completely closed they both predicted it would run fine.

They ran the tests and the ak did better than most guns but the ar15 completely passed the test with flying colors.

They said at the end of the video to take it for what it is and that the test was no means indicative of actual battlefield conditions.

Now they are both being accused of being biased for their predictions (which aren't always right, they both predicted the RDB would pass and it failed horribly), or rigging the test, or being jews or w/e /pol/ shit people can think of.

tl;dr butthurt retarded faggots
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>people are still being fags about ARs and AKs
>not accepting they're both great guns
it's like you guys hate firearms or something.
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>>28538106
This /thread
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>the small arms in use by both major powers on the planet are very reliable
>this is somehow something to fight over
hooray people make guns that don't break all the time and shoot 30 caliber clips per second.
fucking deal with it and pick the one you think is sexy.
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>>28538106
I've literally never seen butthurt on this level
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>>28538164
>AK
>great gun
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I like how he bent the model 10b shotguns arm brace flat when he cleared a round by but stroking it on the ground.
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>>28530556

What is more obscure and better than FW?
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>>28533492
You can't post a link to what you are talking about when making a thread about something because if you are OP you are a fag and an incompetent moron who makes shitty threads without links or explanations to the topic.
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>>28535657
>It's universally recognized
ie just a meme
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>>28533326
He worked 6 years as a bartender.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUIPfkxZaO8
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>>28534932
:3
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>>28531345
You don't have to take down a video to change the length you can edit on YouTube
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>>28536736
Yes
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>>28534948
Whoag take it easy there, Damage /K/ontrol..
>fucking ak cuck
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>>28533398
>Ian makes a video where an AK jams and an AR does not under specific conditions with 1 of each firearm

>/ARG/ makes 50 threads screaming about how slavshit is garbage self justifying their purchases
>ak owners try to calmly explain that this "test" does not change 70 years of combat proven reliability nor all the videos on youtube showing the AK being reliable under adverse conditions
>/arg/ fags spam BTFO DAMAGE CONTROOOOOOOOOOOL and suck the manlet mexicans tits.


Seems about right.
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>Anime is dumb
>if you are still watching it you are a nerd and need a life
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>>28533475
lmao arfag confirming its fucking true
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>>28538200
Pretty much this. Except based god Ian.

Fuck his auctioneer videos i need more gun range shit to appease my video needs. Not this "THIS IS FOR SALE AT ALS GOOD TIME HUNTING BARN FOR ONLY 1,900 DOLLARS OVER GOING RATE!"
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>>28541556
But there are plenty range shit channels. I want more weird guns.
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>>28530248
The first AR I ever built, I put the hammer spring in backwards. It actually ran pretty good with the occasional light strike. I'm sure literally any debris in the fcg would have made it light strike every time.

Nnow, if some random faggot like me could tuck up a Lego build, I think we should entertain the possibility that a different random faggot could subtly fuck up a significantly more difficult build. There are a ton of things novice builders can do that will make any AK that works pretty well and might not appear in perfect conditions, but will cause it to be less reliable.

Were the receiver rails too tight to allow for the bcg to move freely? Some people squeeze the receiver either accidentally when pressing rivets or intentionally for more consistent bolt lockup.

Was the selector stop properly fitted the the new receiver? This will set mag height and too high or low will make it harder for the rifle to feed. A lot of new builders don't know how to properly do this and how important it is.

Did the builder use a pre drilled receiver? Trying to force the rivets through the receiver/trunnion holes and then crushing them can pull the trunnion out of alignment with the receiver and make it harder to feed and return to battery.

Was the piston replaced? If so, does it maintain the proper 6mm gap from the front of the piston to the bottom of the gas block chamber? Was it properly riveted to allow the slop needed to reliably enter the gas block?

What fcg was used?

Is this the original barrel? Did the builder have to drill a gas port, and if so, did they drill it undersized?

I would love to see them repeat this test with a factory built AK with a halfway decent reputation. I've made too many small mistakes building aks to trust the reliability of a rifle from an unknown and potentially untrained builder.
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>>28541680
>go innabackyard with new AK built to exactly what you would consider in spec
>dunk it innamud
>shoot
>post results
There you go, Russian lots are litteraly 'must know at least a dozen shady people named Boris' tier hard to get but using a quality bulgarian set would get the same results.

I don't quite understand the fanboyism on either side but I think the reason no one so far has refutes the results (which they themselves said that is indicative of not much) is because anyone with actual expertise in AK construction knows that it isn't indestructible and has flaws that allow for certain failures under certain conditions.
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>>28535772
he build a like pueblo house thing in desert.
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>>28541556
then just watch a different channel or better yet go out and shoot guns yourself because i don't enjoy watching other people shooting, that's what's fucking boring
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>>28541964
>Russian lots are litteraly 'must know at least a dozen shady people named Boris' tier hard to get but using a quality bulgarian set would get the same results

https://rguns.net/shop/russian-1968-izhmash-akm-parts-kit/

https://rguns.net/shop/russian-izhmash-ak74-5-45x39-parts-kit/

I did not have a problem with the origin of the parts as G kits are usually fairly decent as they were demilled military rifles, and the only problems I've heard from any romanian kits are eroded gas blocks which is extremely rare in the G kits.

The fact that you think that russian parts are that difficult to find, or that you seem to think that the parts kit origin is more important than the builder makes me think that you don't know anything about building AKs.

I was questioning whether this was an actual competent build, which would make this a fairly valid test and a good learning experience for people like me who love AKs, or if it's a bubba-tier monstrosity which looks halfway decent and runs only because it had never seen any harsh conditions prior to this test.

As I said in my last post, there is a lot of stuff that homebuilders can fuck up that factories generally don't because they have the right gauges and tooling to easily check any critical area on the rifle as well as original blueprints and assembly documents, instead of $5 harbor freight calipers and a vague recollection of what bubba told him at the last gun show.

http://www.arizonaresponsesystems.com/notes/notes-tools/tools-ak-ddr/page-tools-ak-ddr.shtml

Just a small sample of what a military armorer would have access to for inspection. Factories would have more and better tools.. I've spent close to $1000 for all of the tooling I use to build AKs and I can't even come close to the level of quality or specialization of even a field armorers kit.
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>>28542903
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make other than the AK is more involved with maintenance than and AR? That if everything lines up just right that it will pass the test? Name a factory AK that is halfway decent to you.
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>>28541556
The majority of things he looks at are rather rare or prototypes, if there's less than 20 surviving copies in the world to go around going rate is whatever the seller sets it as and whatever the buyer is willing to buy at.
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