F15c v Pak Fa
Who would win?
American things are always worse than their competitors, so the PAK wins.
The PAK FA is a prototype. It's not combat-capable.
>>28528784
weak b8
1000 marines armed with 1000 sticks
>>28528773
A trillion ants.
1970s 4th Gen fighter vs 2020 (hopefully) LRIP 4.75 gen Fighter who would win?
You tell me original poster of this fine thread
>>28528773
The Sun made of lava you retard.
>>28528935
why is an autist calling others retard?
sun is made of air in your head
>>28528784
Good thing nothing can compete with America to begin with B^)
>>28528773
Definitely the PAK-FA. The T-50 might not be up to par with the newest US tech, but it's good enough to beat an aircraft from the 1970s.
>>28528773
Considering there will be 100 F-15s to every "PAK FA", the F-15s.
>>28528773
load up a F-15C with APG-63v3 and an 8-pack of AIM-120-D and it stands better than even money chance.
>>28528773
An F-16 shot down Russia's most advanced aircraft. An F-15 would do even better.
>>28529284
>Su-24
>Developed in the 1960s
>Russia's most advanced aircraft
>>28529306
>Su-24
>not russias most advanced deployable aircraft
how many pak-fa's does russia have now that that last one caught on fire?
>>28529306
That's what /k/ really believes, bro.
>>28529306
>f-16
>Introduction 17 August 1978
>su-24
>Introduction 1974
whats the issue senpai?
>>28529317
>>28529364
Never heard of the Su-30, Su-33, Su-34 or Su-35?
>>28529364
f-16's first flight was 1974 so thy are even closer
>>28529375
Su-24's first flight was 1967
>>28529372
not really considering only one of those is a strike fighter like the su 24 and all but one(su-34 excluded because lol less than 100) have less then 50 built.
>>28529398
All of those aircraft can and do carry A2G munitions and both Su-30s, Su-34s and Su-35s have been deployed to Syria.
>>28529420
>l-look guys w-we sent half a dozen of our best aircraft available.
>t-the're totally operational
>>28529448
Relevance? >>28529284 said that the Su-24 was Russia's most advanced aircraft, when even Su-27s are more advanced.
>>28529460
>su-27
>advanced
shit nigger thing barely has a flight computer
inb4 muh superior wing design/does clean loopdieloops at airshows clean
>>28528773
F-15 since the PAK-FA isn't operational.
>>28529472
And? The Su-27 has been upgraded over the decades like the F-15.
Fact is, a 1990s era Block 50 F-16C (an agile multirole fighter) shot down a 1980s era Su-24M (a tactical bomber).
If slavs started talking about how a MiG-29 shot down Americas "most advanced aircraft", when it had just shot down an F-111, they'd be smacked down
>>28529537
>MiG-29 shot down Americas "most advanced aircraft", when it had just shot down an F-111
good thing this has never happened :^)
>>28529558
It was worse actually. Got shot down by Russia's cheapest AA.
>>28529567
care to site that only thing post vietnam I'm aware of is the one in libya and noone knows what happened to that one exactly
>>28528773
>x plane Vs. x plane
the answer is always SU-47
>>28528773
>Worked up fighter with functional, intigrated weapons and a pilot with tons of stick time.
>Prototype with inappropriate engines and no integration testing done, flown by a pilot with fuck all flight hours.
>>28529586
The anwser is to sit in hanger and rust unloved. atlast I have realized this is only real truth of war.
>>28529558
>>28529567
>Shot down by a potato cannon.
>>28528773
>F-15 c
>posts pic of f-15E
F-15E beats all.
IIRC F-15 has the best combat record of any aircraft deployed in combat ever.
>>28529596
>TFW the projected modern unit cost of the SU-47 is cheaper then the F-35
>>28529604
not likely considering they would have to completely retool. and russia would only be willing to buy like 30 of them
>>28529606
>>28529604
Remember that the PAK-FA's projected unit cost was $50m, but is now looking to be about $100m, if not more.
>>28529606
Oh, well Russia could maybe afford 20 paper weight replicas.
>american SU-47-like stealth fighter when?
>>28529618
thats ignoring the engine change later on and the fact that russian engines have half the life of their american counterparts from the get go all them shekels
>>28529618
>Counting price on a Russian planes in dollars
Look at this retard.
>>28529637
Its 10 mil units of wadka, and 12 mil unitis of turnips
PAK-FA obviously, because by the time it enters service all F-15 airframes will be rotten and unable to take off. The PAK-FA would just fly over the aircraft boneyard and bomb it with dumb iron bombs. Eventually on the third pass it'd get a clear hit.
>>28529284
Is this bait? The SU-24 is a tactical bomber, not a fighter, you fucking clown.
>>28529637
Wat is exchange rate?
>>28529648
2050 intro date confirmed
>>28529651
mig-21 is tactical bomber too lmao XD
>>28529652
2 dollars per 11 bottles of vodka
>>28529604
Maybe if you don't include the cost of replacing the wingroots once every couple of days.
>>28529674
Wings dont grow roots silly
>>28529618
Every Russian aircraft's cost in USD is crashing right now because the ruble floats on the gas price and it's $80 a barrel.
>>28529716
Gas doesnt usualy come in barrels, liquids usualy do.
>>28529652
Right now? It's No.
You can't exchange rubles for dollars. To do so is borgious treason.
F-15 is my favorite plane, but the PAK FA would win
>>28529729
Yes, the iron curtain rises
>>28529652
like 4 times what it was 3 years ago so like 80 to 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoQPbnDYggk
>>28529757
was meant for >>28529745
>>28529765
Oh man, rember when the simpsons was good? Good times.
>>28529728
I want to hit you with a 2x4.