Should weapons training be a part of the school mandatory curriculum, at least at a state level?
I feel like a lot of the stigma behind guns would go away if people were taught at an early age about guns.
>I feel like a lot of the stigma behind guns would go away if people were taught at an early age about guns.
If gun handling and safety was taught in a respectful and unbiased manner, sure. but we both know it wouldn't be.
Although if they gave out 50 round packs of .22lr like they do for condoms that would be rad.
I think just showing a couple Eddie Eagle videos would be sufficient considering most kids would be exposed to firearms under the supervision of an adult.
Not liberal, just thinking pragmatically.
Millenials and everyone after them are a lost cause as a whole in terms of instilling personal responsibility and basic common sense. We should be focusing instead on stopping their mass shootings when they happen since prevention used on them will not work since they cannot be trusted.
They are impulsive by nature. The only way to stop an action done out of impulse is right when it happens since there is no way to predict when the impulse will strike.
I'd say you should be at least 16 before courses, if it's legal for you to drive a care you can be entrusted to at the least be instructed over firearms imo
I figure it should be such as sex ed where you take a week just learning over how they work and proper safety around them.
During the 11th grade towards the end of the school year kids could be given a crash course on firearms and the dangers they pose, but as well how safe they can be. The next year in the 12th grade children would be given a much more in depth look into weaponry. With the difference between ammo types, weaponry, laws per state on guns.
All courses should have a well qualified instructor though that has quite a lot of experience with firearms. Most easily said would be getting cops from the local PD to come in and teach about them
High school Freshmen, so 14-16, as an elective alternative to Gym/PE/Weights. There are so many kids that look to get out of Gym class and this would the absolute perfect alternative.
I think it would be great for kids to be taught proper handling and safety of firearms in school.
Being taught how to shoot though is a different matter. I honestly wouldn't be comfortable with letting most children fire guns without 1-on-1 supervision, and there wouldn't be enough time and/or supervisors for that in most schools. Hell, when I was in high school we didn't even get to drive in driver's ed. because the school didn't have enough instructors to let all the students get hands-on experience in a timely manner.
Each mass shooting takes out more than one person whereas most homicides only result in one death (or 2 if suicide).
Not to mention that they have made a generational sport out of shooting up public places. They are overgrown eternal children who are long overdue for getting their toys taken away until they can show that they are responsible enough to use them.
Because I don't want to die because some millenial shit is unable to get a drugged up slut from his generation to sleep with him.
Birth year limits for owning guns? Where should we set it?
>Born on or after 1976: Turn em in, kiddies. Playtime is over.
I like it.
I don't know where you crawled out of, but it's time to stop posting.
What is going on in those years where there is a spike of victims but no corresponding (or a significantly lesser) spike of fatalities?
Were EMTs just really on their game in those years?
See, I'd like to, but...nah, i was gonna say "they might shoot other people" but then again, the fuckers will all be armed.
But eventually someone will bitch about kids doing "dangerous shit" and it'll stop again...I'd still love to see it though.
You want the same people teaching sex ed to kids to teach them about guns?
Honestly it sounds like a good idea that just wouldn't work. Blue states would have teachers drive home that guns are bad etc etc just like how some states teach abstinence only sex ed.
Thinking about it politically those classes would be kicked out by all the liberal soccer moms not letting their children learn about "evil killin machines"
Also imo already got too many kids finding every which way to get out of PE.
I think my earlier idea >>28524828
Would be much more sensible and at the least have more success in more liberal areas. Also having the cops rather than any instructor no matter how good they are teach kids would help with more of a feeling of safety for your children.
Also gotta think about paying teachers for those courses and trying to get qualified people to hire for such a thing quite difficult and cost expensive
Millennial here (I'm 18 so I guess that makes me one,) unfortunately I doubt that will ever happen. It's not going to work.
From what I've observed, most kids/young adults today are coddled through high school and college and aren't taught much about the real world or self-defense. As soon as I started living on my own and having a few scary encounters, self-defense became one of my higher priorities. Most people my age probably don't experience the world outside their college campus.
Yes, but they'd probably have one of those forms that the parent has to sign to give their consent. As a result, the people who need to learn it the most are prevented from doing so because their parents are fucking idiots.
I've toyed with the idea in my head:
>lots of vets, lots of instructors with war on terror winding down
>school shootings and mass shootings on rise anyway! would mark public safer, or feel so.
>phys ed adds boxing.
>at 16, start basic .22 rifle education, basics of pistol operation
>field trip to shooting range! everyone gets box of 50 rounds. Not much but enough to get basic "I can work a safety without ND'ing" familiarity
Gun ownership will die with my generation. It will be a dignified end that a fundamental right for responsible adults deserves.
You did this to yourself, millenial. Go ahead, blame your parents or some abstract group like you always do. Your generation had a choice to take responsibility and pull yourselves up regardless of what "shitty" background you had and you all overwhelmingly failed.
>cops, gun safety.
My police department has to annually patch, on average, 5 holes in either the HQ or the cars because the cops are fucking idiots. On guy did a fucking desk pop with a 12gauge because he didn't realize it was loaded. Another one nearly ventilated a township worker who was taking out their trash and was even wearing the DPW shirt.
So no, I don't think the idiots who can't follow firearm safety themselves should teach it.
This is a fucking classic though.
Did you even read the post?
They had a choice to pull themselves up or wallow in impotent self pity. They chose the self indulgent easier option and unfortunately everyone else has to be dragged down with them.
My town shit like that doesn't happen, even have family on the force. Makes sense though but someone would have to teach it. I just can't see people agreeing to sink more of the schools money into a course that people could see a completely unnecesary
Yeah, those damn boomers wasted everything, with their drugs and free love and rock and roll.
Liberals be damned. He asked how I would implement it, not if it would be successful. The sooner kids learn about guns the better, they'll be less apprehensive and develop respect for them.
Curriculum would consist of 2 separate classes over 2 years. First class would consist of;
-education of the function and history of modern firearms and their mechanisms, and
-familiarization with basic firearms safety and casual shooting. Starting with BB Guns working into .22 LR rifles and pistols by the end of the school year.
Second year class would consist of;
-Shooting techniques with full-power rifles and shotguns of all actions, and handguns
-Maybe even a CC license course (where applicable)
Like most good things, it came to an end in the 60's.
I just feel like, besides the obvious government gun-grabbers, most people of the frightened liberal persuasion are merely uninformed and brainwashed over the reality of firearms.
The best way to beat the anti-gun groups is though education.
I think it should be covered at about the time sex ed is taught. Just basic safety. No shooting, just common sense and responsibility. Try to plant the seed. Maybe less kids will grow up lacking respect for weapons, being afraid of weapons, or god forbid, both.
If the social acceptance rose, it would be nice to see marksmanship return at a post secondary level, or as a more widely available 3rd party extra curricular available to younger people. 4H, YMCA, etc.
>uninformed and brainwashed over the reality of firearms.
This is the truth about every liberal view. They do not care about statistics or reality, they only care about how they 'feel.'
>The best way to beat the anti-gun groups is though education.
This, it is impossible to change someones mind once they are set on their beliefs. Their children, however, can still be molded.
It, like most things, can be used for both good and evil. But, lets be real here, its never going away. So we might as well use it to our advantage, the same way the liberals do.
desu I was raised in a liberal household, and I grew up relatively anti-gun. But I've grown to be better informed, (especially after moving to Chicago) and while I still think there needs to be some standards, for the most part I feel like society would improve as a whole if the majority of people recognized the utility and safeguard that guns are.
I would love to have a chance to learn how to use a gun one day, even though I can't really own or afford a handgun.
>wants to deny people their second amendment rights based on age
Thanks for posting something so blatantly fucking retarded. Your opinion has been disregarded. Please hang yourself at the nearest possible opportunity.
What it's supposed to look like it's saying is that because of more lax gun laws, more people have died from guns.
When in reality, there have been far FEWER shootings BUT shooters have been going after major population centers because it more solidifies their presence in history.
Nobody cares about the gangbannger that clapps a few foos. Everybody remembers the motherfucker who walked into a grade school and started clearing rooms. And the more "victims" the more longer their popularity lasts which is the key element seeing as there are more mass shooters that want to live out in infamy than those who are striking back at perceived wrongs.
as an elective, sure. but i'd much rather electives like personal finance, home ec and wood shop reinstated first, since they actually teach things every kid is gonna need to know.
whether you like it or not, learning how to use a gun isn't exactly a crucial skill for growing up.
I should think optional at the very least. Occasionally when I'm feeling bold I'll advocate that. Helps that here (Canada) accidental injuries/deaths far outweigh intentional ones.