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do the american soilders use captured weapons?

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do the american soilders use captured weapons?
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>>28521238
Yeah, for OPFOR training exercises. It wouldn't be the best idea to try to establish a supply chain for a bunch of captured weapons unlesd you're in dire straits or will be planning on using local factories during ocupation.
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>>28521238

0/10 bait. That' not a captured RPG-7 that's a US made RPG-7 clone.
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Only to learn to know how to use them.

There are various medal of honor and navy cross citations with our guys picking up combatant firearms because they ran out of ammo or their gun broke or some shit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Chontosh
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I imagine (because I don't have military experience) that you'd want to familiarize your soldiers with the enemy's weapons as well as their own.
Captured though? Not likely. Probably bought them from the ruskies of another country that had them.
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/r/ that one marine clearing rooms with a ppsh
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>>28521264
He probably just googled "US military RPG" or "US military foreign weapons" on google image, you gigantic faggot.
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>>28521238
Sometimes, at least until your team leader gets a stick up his ass
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>>28521238
Only if it's a last resort kind of thing. If you have no more ammo for your own weapon then yeah, enemy weapons will work, but there are a few problems
1: access. If you're shooting guys from over here and they're all falling over there, then you probably can't reach their weapons. If they've overrun your spot then their weapons are close enough to grab, but you're probably past the point of caring what you're using at that point
2: more practically, it's a bad idea to use an enemy wepaon because battlefields are loud, chaotic places where people are working off a minimum of workable information. If you suddenly start firing at an enemy with an AK from the back of your group your teammates won't know "Oh it's Anon with his captured AK", they're just going to think "There's an AK popping off a few feet behind me". This problem is amplified in cities and jungles where you can't see more than a few feet
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>>28521238
There was a unit in the SC National Guard that, while in Afghanistan, was doing a practice shoot with the LN's. One of the guys shot an RPG that detonated immediately and ended up getting seriously fucked up. I can't remember if he died though.
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>>28521238
I've heard of this happening in say Vietnam, but that's a bit more understandable. One reason a lot of guys didn't, even though the AK was more reliable at that time was that the sound of an AK firing was a good indicator of where the enemy was, so you risked friendly fire by using one.
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>>28521322
>your teammates won't know "Oh it's Anon with his captured AK", they're just going to think "There's an AK popping off a few feet behind me"

The battlefield is loud enough that you won't even know the difference between 7.62x39 and 5.56
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>>28521331
From what I understand, it was mostly just units like MAC-V SOG using things like AKs and RPDs in Vietnam.
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>>28521337
Some guys would pick them up because the early ARs with the issued ammo were shit. Chives discusses it in The Gun. But mostly, yeah. It makes sense for SOG especially when you consider some of the guys in there were still using grease guns and even Garands. One motherfucker even used a bow exclusively.
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>>28521335
That is not true at all. The AK and AR have different firing sounds, and SF guys in Vietnam would use AK's to fuck with the enemy. They eventually stopped because friendlies were also tricked. It's about the full auto rhythm than just a single shot
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>>28521335
>The battlefield is loud enough that you won't even know the difference between 7.62x39 and 5.56
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>>28521326
RPG grenades are old and as such they are dangerously unreliable even for Russians and we all know Russian standards on what is considered "safe".
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>>28521335
Well that's not true according to combat veterans, but sure, why not?
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I wish they'd bring back spoils of war. There are so many ww2 weapons that are still used by sandniggers that i'd die to bring back.
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>>28521274
got it
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Every time I deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, my units inherited a ton of captured weapons.

Most of the time the weapons just sat in the arms room. Though a few times we had ammo, magazines, and cool officers. So we took AKs, SVDs, Tariq pistols, and a few PPSH43s out to the range and did some plinking.

No matter how well I tried to reason. They would not let me replace my M16a4 with a SVD. Even when I was just doing tower guard duty. They understood why and even saw the logic in it. They just said it couldn't be done.

Bringing a SVD or a Tariq pistol back also couldn't be done. Even though they are perfectly legal to own.
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>>28521331
>>28521348
I think at this point the "traded my 16 for an AK because reliability" story has been snuffed as rumor. Makes much more sense that they would use them to help mask themselves. M16 fire and 5.56 casings are a pretty good indication that Americans are/have been in the area. AKs help cover your tracks, would be easier to source ammo for on raids in a desperate situation, AND have the nice side effect of being more reliable and having larger mags. I'm absolutely sure they liked the AK more for reliability, but it seems like a stretch as the deciding factor of whether or not to keep a current gun
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>>28521387

You should have thrown some of those pistols in your weapons case. Thats how people smuggle shit back.
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>>28521264
The Eotech alone cost more than the whole launcher.

>>28521335
Have you ever fired a gun before?
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>>28521238
Not if it can be helped. You're (collectively) unfamiliar with the manual of arms, you may be mistaken for an enemy yourself, and the third round down the magazine might well have plastic "propellant".
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>>28521396
Probably, but the example I'm bringing up is an interview with a veteran in an academic text, so I know it did probably happen even if it wasn't common.
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>>28521404
potential federal buttrape for weapons smuggling over a Tariq?
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>>28521409
Or worse. Saw a thing on another thread here with a captured Kalash mag rigged to explode after the first few rounds. Clever shit.
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>>28521348
>Some guys would pick them up because the early ARs with the issued ammo were shit.

ARs were issued ammunition with wrong kind of powder since the military wanted to cut costs. Rifles issued didn't have the chromed parts designed by Stoner because? ..Guessed it? Cutting costs. The military even believed that "the space age toygun" was so advanced it didn't need maintenance so the troops weren't issued with any tools or instructions on that either.. This is where all the myths of ARs being absolute shit originate from. Cost cutting and ignorant believe in absolute superiority of American engineering.

I'm an AK man myself but AR is not the shit rifle people try to make it out to be. But in Vietnam it was totally the useless piece of scrapmetal and plastic the modern day AK guys try to make it out to be and even more.
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>>28521335

Really? because in real life it will surprise you.
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>>28521238

I read a book once set during the Seige of Leningrad. The main characters survive the entire time, then one of them gets shot right on the last 10 pages because he was carrying a captured MP40 and a Soviet sniper shoots him without hesitation.
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>>28521387
There are regs for bringing back captured items, according to the DOD

Basically you can take unit patches and shit like that, but not a whole lot else.

And (unless I'm mistaken) in order to import any firearm you need an FFL. It's also worth noting, that while it is legal to own an SVD, they are not legal to import. At least if they're russian or chinese
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US army infantry here
everytime i am deployed i ditch my m16 and get an ak because of reability issues
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>>28521409
>>28521417
Oh wait that's what you meant. Nvm. I am retarded.

>>28521419

I know all this, but I'm not speaking from my ass here. I'm basing this from interviews with vets. I have a degree in history. I'm not saying the reputation was 100 percent deserved, but I'm not saying it 100 percent wasn't either. The first thing they teach you in history is that nothing is ever 100 percent.
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>>28521404
Armor was really good. She had a OCD Nazi record keeping system. She would give you anything you asked and could build up a M16 from a stripped lower. Yet nothing in her arms room was going to go missing and you got nothing you were not authorized.

Meet a C-5 crewman while I was in Germany. He had a dozen Tariqs. He had a source and ever time his plane left Baghdad to fly back to Germany. He threw a pistol or something else into a hidey hole in the plane.
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>>28521413

Hey it works.
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I remember a buddy of mine in the CF taking a foreign weapons course where they brought a variety of different guns used by other NATO countries so that in case of emergency, we can use weapons from our allies. One thing he told me about the whole that stood out of all the weapons he used from countries like France, Germany, and even the new AK-15 from Russia was that fucking Tavor trigger. He kept going on about how bad it was, said it felt like a sponge. Then he went out and bought a Type 97 for varmit because the guy at the store recommended it.
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>>28521438
>The first thing they teach you in history is that nothing is ever 100 percent.

I know but this being internet I'm obviously exaggerating here. I also have degree in history.
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>>28521458
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>>28521387
someone should do a study on whether the army could make money selling these guns to companies that would import and sell them to the civilian market. I'm sure if 922r wasnt a thing this would already be the case.
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>>28521335

this guy is full of shit. im sure somebody else said so too but i didnt read the rest of the thread.
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>>28521452
>and even the new AK-15 from Russia

Bullshit
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>>28521335
>he's never fired a gun before
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>>28521437
Yeah the ar jammed a\every time I got a single grain of dirt in it.
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>>28521452

Your "Buddy" is feeding you bullshit. The "New AK-15" that is just a photoshopped image of a AK-74M?
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>>28521238
PMCs on mission may or may not have had things stashed in their tents/trailers that may or may not have been totally allowable
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>>28521496
>>28521540
Maybe that Saiga 107?
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>>28521483
>someone should do a study on whether the army could make money selling these guns to companies that would import and sell them to the civilian market.

I can make a hypothesis for that study right here right now:

I'd be a total fucking PR nightmare whenever the army went since they'd be directly profiteering from wars now. The profits made from this would be so low that it wouldn't be worth extra work every god damn time they did something since the liberals would just accuse them being the gun grabbing procurement department of NRA and other domestic babykillers..
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>>28521404
yeah but what is the point of having a rare weapon if it isnt legally transferable because it was smuggled into the country, and it has no financial value attached to it?
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>>28521542
>tfw you were not deployed in time to get in on the wild days of war trophies in Iraq.
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>>28521558

A Rare as fuck rifle still undergoing trails was delivered to Canada for some senpai fire course. Seems legit guys.
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>>28521562
only the NFA items would be worthless to anyone but you.

the semi auto stuff would fetch a nice price at a gun show. all original , good condition, russian made SVDs with no import marks, would fetch a really good price.
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>>28521562

You're a dumb dumb son. Smuggled shit is legal to sell as long as it isn't an SBR/AOW or select fire weapon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSFfhS4pKHg
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>>28521335
I love how some people just seem so assured of silly opinions,
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>>28521591
but if it was brought back from a foreign country, wouldn't it have all foreign parts, thus not being 922r complaint?

I know, I know
>worrying about 922r
but wouldnt guns being sold as vet bring-backs alert the ATF?
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>>28521566
>tfw you never got to rat fuck one of Saddam's palaces
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>>28521238
>RPG-7
>Lightweight
>Cheap
>Wide variety of ammunition capable of engaging a wide variety of targets
>So user friendly a child can use it effectively
>Proven reliability

Remind me why we don't use them ourselves?
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>>28521637

>worrying about 922r

You answered your own question son. The ATF is not conducting 100% inspections on every firearm sold. Dummy.
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>>28521374

Smart. I imagine a PPSH-41 in good condition and with a full drum mag would be an improvement over the issued M16 for room-to-room fighting.

>taking captured weapons home with you is illegal

Those assholes just had to take away one of the fun aspects of war.
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>>28521283
What the fuck do you know about denying the enemy transportation son?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pALhIxLe5_o
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>>28521678
>Remind me why we don't use them ourselves?
We do, or at least we make them. I dont think police are going to buying them
http://www.airtronic-usa.com/products/airtronic-rpg-7-usa/
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>>28521238

As others have said, you learn how to use enemy weapons in case battle dictates you need to use them. Got to finger fuck an mp-40 was nice.

As for just coming across a weapon without it being in a firefight you don't use them. sometimes the hajjis boobytrapped them to explode or injure the person that fires it.

Also Ak-47 variants are basically the only ones used by the sand people, that's really all you gotta know. Maybe rpgs.
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>>28521920
More likely exports
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>>28521834
That's actually terrible.
Spoils of war are half the fun. Look at the USCGC Eagle.
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>>28521900

I fucking love that show
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>>28521331
Macv-sog used enemy weapons and even civilian weapons during the whole "denial ability" thing
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>>28521374
But why?
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>>28521387
>Officers actually understanding logic
>Still refuse it because it's out of their hands

That has to hurt, Anon.
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>>28521335
Not every firefight or battlefield is like Saving Private Damon sweet desu.
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>>28521335
>I get my firearms knowledge from COD: the post
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>>28523141
>70 rounds of 7.62x25 in 4.7 seconds
why not?
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>>28521335
I hope this is bait. Guns are loud, yes, but very distinctive.
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>>28521443
>Be civil engineering, work closely with an EOD shop.
>KC-135 had come in from the sandbox on rotation.
>Everyone is off, crew/maintainers are doing their checks etc etc.
>Wild RGD-5 appears!
>Rolls out of the fucking airplane, hits the ground, rolls against the landing gear and sists.
>Maintainer screams 'grenade!'
>Everyone fucking flees.
>EOD shows up, everything is frozen because we have a potentially live grenade under a Tanker.
>Takes five minutes to clear.
>OSI detains and buttrapes the entire aircrew and the passengers they were bringing over.
>Uncover an entire weapon smugling ring through a single boomer.

Don't trust aircrew yo.
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>>28524512
I should say it took five minutes to pick up the grenade and years for EOD to clear the whole fucking plane.
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>>28524078
i always wonder if a Slav got lucky in ww2 and just magdumped a PPSH into a group of Germans in cqc.

and not died like 4 seconds afterwards, of course
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>>28524808
>capture of berlin
yeah I'd think so
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>>28524808
In WW2 our troops did plenty of weapon capturing.. again we had crappy rifles and almost no machineguns and smgs so a PPSH a mg42 or a DT were huge improvements
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>>28525052
Forgot to specify the italian military. well fighting with carcanos against DT-37, SVTs and PPSH is harsh
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>>28521637
I mean, if a veteran or someone else brought one back, it wouldn't be on record. So it's not like it could be traced to you, especially if it was sold to someone else. This is why it's so pointless for them to push for further restriction on gun owners in order to stop criminals and gain more control on the flow of "illegal" firearms.

So long as it's not illegal for civilians to own, I wouldn't think that there's not much they could do at that point unless they could prove that YOU brought it into the country.

Owning the thing isn't illegal. Smuggling it in is.
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>>28525074
i was literally about to expose my autism and rant about how great the m1 was
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>>28524808
One hell of a SBS
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>>28521335
>>The battlefield is loud enough that you won't even know the difference between 7.62x39 and 5.56
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>>28521335
Infantryman here. You're right. While guns are distinctive, when you have rounds cracking over your head you won't know what is what.
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>>28521335
For one the AR/M16 5.56 rd has a distinct ring to it.

The full auto of an M16 is more like sixteenth notes compared to the gallop or triplet sounding AK full auto.
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>>28525547
>Infantryman here. You're right.
kek okay
>Infantryman
>knowing shit
pick one
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>>28525560
You my good sir are a musi/k/al mother fucker
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when i was at group I shot an RPG from Al-Nasiriyah
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>>28521274
Here's another
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>>28526195
where the fuck did he find a working one?
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>>28526338
mad soviet surplus from the russo afghan war and mad chechens fighters yo
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>>28526447
>Chechnya was a thing

oh yea...
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>>28521437
That's what create a class is for. You don't have to start with an M16 retard.
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>>28524512
Cock suckers. My milita depends on shit like that making it here.
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>>28521283
Shut up Dettmer, No I wasn't going to let you carry the fucking RPD the whole deployment you ass.
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>>28521900

How did Sgt. Kocher get away with threatening his superior officer directly to his face?

I mean, props to him, captain America was a retard, but why didn't he just report what happened to godfather so he could get Kocher shitcanned?
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>>28528822

I think Cpt. America knew he was kind of a retard himself, and Godfather definitely knew he was a retard.

Also, I found Cpt. America amusing, for as much of a retard he was, he was at least looking out for his and his men well being.

Encino man though, was just a retard. That piece of shit pissed me off so much, I hope you militarybros don't have to deal with many encinomans in your line of work.
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>>28521335
blowing you brains out when?
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>>28525201
I want to know why she's not practicing proper trigger discipline.
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>>28528759
This is the thanks I get for bayonetting and saving you from that Jihadi, jesus Eric.
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>>28521335
Wanna know how I know you've never been in a firefight?
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>>28521238
One of my old bosses who was SF and training Iraqis always kept a captured AK under his cot as a back up.
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>>28521419
tl;dr: early ARs with the issued ammo were shit
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>>28521335
Gunny highway would like a word son.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIv_RrgCfWs
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>>28521238
in the blackwater najaf videos you see some marines using AK pattern rifles.
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>>28521374
one hellva shotgun
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>>28521483
Eh, no.

Transport, security and control is so fucking expensive that the US blows up stockpiles of it's own small arms rather then try to transport them. Part of the absurdity of the program to transfer surplus DOD equipment to police forces is that it pretty much always ended up costing more then it would have to directly give the police the money to buy something on the open market.
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>>28529607
Practicing Anti-Aircraft techniques.
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>>28521238
>for training, so they can train friendly hajis
>out of novelty
>they ran out of ammo
>because their shit was damaged
>to save calling for bullets bandages and beans
>to save their own weapons from damage
>rarely to disguise their presence

but I mean, for the amount spent on them why would they really need junk they found in the sandbox?
the risk of booby trapped weapons caches, poorly maintained gear, being mistaken for enemy combatants
the cost of their gear alone is worth more than ali baba's whole village, and the cost of the US supply chain is unfathomable
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>>28521335

Bubba, is that you? How is hunting with that .22?
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>remove hajid
>grab weapons, ammo and equipment
>rig it all into a impromptu contraption connected to a single trigger in your spare time
>slap it onto a vehicle
?????
>profit
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>>28521408
You think you can get a full refund for the launcher?
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>>28521419
Wasn't there a video of the Russians testing the two rifles side by side? They used a then-modern AK and a Vietnam era M16.
Boy, that was a treat to watch.
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>>28530959
They wouldn't dare admit the AR-15/M4's superiority.

What would the liberal media think when the world sees how #BTFO the AK gets?
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>>28523848
>Tfw even the guns in cod have different sounds
>Tfw he even fucked up on that too
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>>28521331

My grandfather was in Vietnam. Some of the MP's were gung-ho about getting weapons away from people, some weren't.

He had two AK's in burlap in his bunk and gave them to a guy when he left. He also had a very old Colt revolver that was given to him the day he arrived and he passed it on to someone else the day he left, because he didn't have enough time to get the Provo to approve him taking it home.

They also had a Winchester shotgun with Navy property markings (he was 101st Army) that was found by a river. Figure someone on a Navy patrol boat dropped it or it fell off. Nevertheless, they put it to good use.

Enlisted usually weren't issued pistols and they'd pick one up if they could get one. And a lot of the infantry guys would pick up an extra shotgun or have one shipped from home to carry out on jungle patrols.

But even in Vietnam because of the GCA 1968 what you could take home and all was different.

My great-grand uncle brought home a ton of shit in WW2 because he was in the supply department, including a couple of Title 2's he registered in the 1968 Amnesty (had to take a bank loan out to get the registration money). But that was a different era.
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>>28521562

Tariq's do pop up on Gunbroker here and there. Not one on there at the moment but I think they usually hit $2-4k when they come up.
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>Be in Ammunition Company
>Do demilitarization of enemy equipment
>Most random shit comes through, both old as guns and blinged shit
>Watch Warrants dick around with them because no one is going to tell Chief no
>Pretty sure one stole a gold-plated AK
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Just imagine this scenario
>Squad is ordered to capture a house
>Kills enemy combatants that live in house
>Captures 2 PKM and 1 SVD and various other slav shit.
>Squad is then ordered to set up support position to cover the advance of some other squad
In this situation any smart person would give the PKM and SVD to the guys that only has m4's. Why the fuck not? The weapons and ammo is all ready there and you just have to pick them up.
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Pretty sure its illegal.
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>>28521335
Have you ever shot on a crowded firing line or anything?
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>>28530163
where those live rounds the tree branch fell off
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>>28521409
>sabotage enemy weaps
This is common as fuck. The RSAS/Recces did this exclusively against the blacks, explosive packed round into the third or fourth round. Devastating shit. One of their TPs was to put a modified AT mine under the bodies of the dead. Took a while for the blacks to start using toggle rope to pull bodies.
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>>28533781

Could be booby trapped, broken, or just old and shit.

People like you are the exact reason that booby trapped weapons exist in the first place. I could leave an AK and a stockpile of booby trapped ammo laying around and you'd end up with no hands and an AK bolt shaped hole in your face because you thought it'd be a good idea to use it.
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>>28521374
ywn clear out rooms in full tactical gear while wielding a ww2 era submachine gun
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>>28534757
>Could be booby trapped, broken, or just old and shit.
I was talking about a situation where you kill the guys yourself and take their guns and then setting up a defensive position.
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>>28535009
Well if you kill them then obviously their guns are great
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>>28521435
Not him, but what if you torched the receiver and sent the rifle back as a parts kit?
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>>28526666
Carl Stoddard pls.

You already have enough smuggled tanks and attack helicopters.
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>>28533781
>In this situation any smart person would give the PKM and SVD to the guys that only has m4's. Why the fuck not? The weapons and
ammo is all ready there and you just have to pick them up.

In what world do you live in where it is a "smart" idea to field unfamiliar equipment to personnel who have no training at all on how to operate. It's like telling someone they have to start writing with their other hand. no one in the US military is trained on AK's or SVD's. How do you clear a jam, how do you reload a mag, how do you charge the weapon, how do you use the sights, what's the bullet drop like, etc. etc. All these things you would have to learn on the fly will take precious seconds that will get you killed. And then there are Enemy grenades. you never EVER use enemy grenades, because you don't know if they've rigged the fuses to detonate the second you release the spoon.
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>>28521335
What do you know about the battlefield? Can love bloom on it
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>>28535960
In a static position using the support weapons makes sense because you would just switch back to the m4 if you jam or move. Not like you need to know bullet drop on a GPMG anyways because you'll just watch impacts and walk it in. Same thing with the SVD just use Kentucky windage, very common for DMRs.
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>>28521920
>14 lb's

Holy shit that's it?
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>Not bringing Grand PaPaSha on one last romp removing kebab with a sight whose cost could have bought a whole company's worth of the weapon its mounted on back in the day
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>>28535960
>rigged the fuses to detonate the second you release the spoon.
Any idea how to do that? I've read about booby traps that use grenades on a tripwire. The tripwire part is easy but how do soldiers get rid of the time fuse?
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>>28536894
What did they put on that old girl and how did they even do it?
Why?
Are they literally incapable of firing a weapon just with iron sights?
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>>28537005
You can see pretty clearly it's an eotech and one of those VFG flashlight things. They used zipties or something similar to attach them.

I remember reading about this years ago. It was done for fun. They could shoot the captured stuff on a range for "weapons familiarity", so they did.
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>>28537005
Looks like a rail attached with zipties and the equipement on the rails
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>>28536894
ITS BEAUTIFUL MAN, BEAUTIFUL!
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>>28536383
Again spending time learning where the hold is on your sights on an unfamiliar weapon wasting very valuable, precious seconds that can get you killed. Instead of using your own weapon with sights you have trained on for dozens/hundreds of man hours practicing. Instinctive second nature trumps guessing on the fly every time.
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>>28521483
The military's job is to serve the interests of the us, not fuck around picking up guns everywhere. That would be a public relations nightmare, more unwanted hate the military already gets often and besides, it would be fucking nothing for the amount of negativity and risk that comes with such things. Plus it would just fuck with the process of conducting anything out in the field.

However, it would be pretty cool if the military would let people bring back rifles and buy them with the proceeds going towards helping wounded veterans and their families but the VA sucks dick so no. No fun, not ever.
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>>28521452
Nothing about your post makes any sense.
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>>28533781
>Why the fuck not?

You have a rifle you're familiar with, know the zero and holdovers with perfectly good ammo you personally loaded from a lake city box. The government was nice enough to give you a very expensive and nice set of aimpoint m68's, an elcan or even a fucking trijicon acog.

But fuck that shit, let's use a really rusted up 7.62x54r rifle that we know nothing about because /k/ said they were awesome and they go for $15,000 on gunbroker so they have to be the best!

>he can't hit targets out to 800 meters with a good rifle and optic
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>>28536977
>Any idea how to do that?

Replace the time delay fuse with a blasting cap

>I've read about booby traps that use grenades on a tripwire. The tripwire part is easy but how do soldiers get rid of the time fuse?

With those booby traps they don't they just tie a trip wire to a grenade pin and anybody dumb enough to snag the wire has 3-5 seconds to get the fuck out of Dodge.
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>>28537005
>Are they literally incapable of firing a weapon just with iron sights?

It is standing military order that all personnel shoot with optics.
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>>28537120
>Looks like a rail attached with zipties and the equipement on the rails

The rails are not attached with zipties.
The equipment attached to the rails are secured with zipties so the equipment doesn't fall off without you noticing.
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>>28521374
>B-B-B-BUT /K/ TOLD ME SMGS WERE OBSOLETE AND THAT THE AR 15 WAS THE BEST SMG/SBR/SNIPERRIFLE/DMR/SPR EVER MADE!!!!
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>>28521350
Its not how loud it is its more the rate of fire I noticed, and I could tell the difference in iraq. you get so used to the sounds of your weapons theirs just sound wrong.
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>>28537300
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST SO MANY SVDs
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>>28533781
What ever happened to the rule of never using non issued ammo?
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>>28537691
I don't see zip ties on the actual equipment
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>>28539766
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>>28525074
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