Why does the 92FS get so much hate?

>>28500822
>Why do people hate this gun so much?
Do they? People keep telling me to get one

>Tried tonight
>LGS is sold out thanks to Paris, San Bern & Obama.

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>>28500822
I have a 92A1 and love it. Don't listen to the haters, its a fine gun.

>>28500822
Because it's big, even for a full-size pistol it's a handful. So some people will inevitably complain. There's really nothing wrong with the gun. Get one OP, unless you're a small-handed little bitch.

>>28500822
i dont hate it but its definitely not good, especially for the price.

>touted as a carry gun yet basically the same size as the full sized version
>heavy as fuck
>manual safety
>not great capacity especially for its size
>heavy trigger

its pretty but thats about it if youre comparing it to other guns in its class

>>28500822
Common complaints I've heard
>huge for the capacity
>grip doesn't fit smaller hands well
>da/sa trigger sucks
>slide safety

It is bigger but I think it handles well enough. The trigger is fine imo, da is long but its not like its gritty or stacks badly, a lot of people just suck at shooting handguns and blame the pistol
Slide safety is hit or miss I don't mind it too much, the anniversary edition with it on the frame looked way better though

>>28500898
OP asked about the 92FS, not the Compact

And the fullsize really isn't much heavier than every other fullsize service handgun used by western nations in the last century

>>28500898
It is pricey but I'm getting it for around 385. I work at a gunstore and people telling me its complete garbage for that price. I cant tell if my co-workers are just retarded or they have some actual point.

>>28500822
For one reason, the slide mounted manual safety/decocker is very easy to accidentally move to the down position if you're power stroking under stress and/or using gloves

>>28500822
a vocal minority composed of glock poorfags

>>28500924
For $385 it's absolutely worth it if you ask me.

>>28500952
Yeah thats what i figured. I mean i can understand not liking the look or the feel but it seems like people find reasons to hate on this gun.

>>28500955
I would second this. You really don't seem them for less unless they're beat up PD trade ins. Grab it at $385

>>28500822
There is gonna be a group of haters for ANY gun. A family member of mine carried a 92FS through out his career as a police officer. I shot that gun at the range and first off, was very accurate. The gun was comfy and no noticeable problem with trigger pull. Beretta firearms are fine and worth the price.

>>28500822
Slide safety, get a G model M9A1 and enjoy.

>>28500997
Gonna throw in a third confirmation.

Unless we see any more of the 92S come in (the one with the low down mag release) that's probably the best deal you'll find on one

>>28500983
> yeah thanks for validating my opinion while I ignore the other people telling me the truth.

I am one of the few people who doesn't mind a safety on a gun, so long as it is put in the right spot and easy to actuate.

I have one and I love it:
-Sexy
-Slide is smooth as butter
-Can carry it with hammer half cocked
-Has a decocker
-Trigger is smooth
-Reliable as hell,seriously my father has had his 92FS for twenty years and NEVER had a malfunction.He shoots it once a month and cleans it only once a year...
Only downsides are that it's big and the safety can be hard to reach

It's very big

Aside from that I have no complaints

Ill probably end up getting it, its hard to say no at that low a price. Good to hear that for the most part people think its worth the investment though all things considered.

>>28500822

Buy a TT-33 or Makarov instead.

>>28501110
Fuck no. Just ask a homeless drink to kick you in the junk instead

>>28500917
>It holds 17rd flush with modern mags
>personal opinion/problem
>personal opinion I love mine
>same as abouve

>>28501110
I dont get a discount from that from work. I only get a discount on Kimber, Remington, Beretta, and Smith and wesson.

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>>28501042
it is in the right spot, the US .mil told them to put it there same as colt's offering for the test.

>>28501204
Ya Beretta is the sexiest of the bunch.

For under 400 bucks it comes in as a decent purchase for most, I personally wouldn't unless I happened upon one around $300 or less in good shape.

A little while ago Academy was running a special on Stoeger Cougars for around $350 now I think they are back up to $380, I would strongly advise you pick up one of those instead if you happen upon a railed frame model, the only advantage a 92 will have over it is cheap mags.

It's really hard to justify a 92 when all the other wonder nines of the era (CZ75, P220/26, P88, S&W's, etc) are simply better.

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>>28501242
Yeah I mean I dont mind kimber but even with 50% off I still feel like im overpaying for their stuff

>>28500822
My personal preference. I don't care for it. Don't like the feel, and I'm not the most accurate with it. I bought what I enjoy to shoot and can carry comfortably.

Whenever people ask me what they should get I give them a recommendation based off my preference, with the caviat that it's my opinion not fact.

>>28501196
A P226 will hold 18 rounds in modern magazines flush with a slimmer grip profile, the newer CZ's are pushing 20

>>28501204
oh god your gunstore sounds like shit (minus the smith and wesson part)

>>28501229
you've never touched a slide mounted safety have you, they're absolute garbage that can and will activate when the slide gets thrown violently forwards or backwards.
like you know when the gun actually gets shot instead of masturbated on

>>28501275
>opinions

>>28501229
Slide mounted safeties are the stupidest safeties you could do. Frame mounted like the 1911 and BHP like god intended.

>>28501300
I have a 92 you dumb shit, I like the safety placement and is know different to me than a 1911 placed one.

>>28501229
The 92 is at it's heart an enlargened P38 with some design cues taken from beretta's earlier guns (some of which were also heavily inspired by the P38).
The first slide mounted safety 92 was the 92S, and it predates US mil adoption

>>28501318
It original had one but could not stay in the test with out one like colts test pistol had, the army was not looking at most pistols that did not have a slide mounted safety /decocker.

>>28501313
I mean, I was asking for opinions anyway so

>>28501334
Can you use it one handed? Have you ever used your gun under stress and worked the slide? Do you not realize that the safety doesn't even lock the trigger so you have to wait til you have that stupid bar in your sight picture to realize it has the safety on?

>>28501360
Yeah thats cool, its still fucking stupid no matter what the excuse is.

>>28501300
I've never had a 92 safety activate during firing (though I've heard of it happening - if it happens to you replace your springs).


But that motherfucker would constantly switch on/off inadvertently in the holster, which removed all hope of carrying in DA with the safety off.

These are problems I've rarely encountered in slide safety walthers and have never encountered in Makarov's mind you.

>>28501387
Yes, I know you are a dumb shit that power racks 92 slides like a retard.

>>28501409
How else do you clear malfunctions nogunz?

>>28501429
Slingshot grip like the manual tells you to fool.

>>28501429
In a 92?
You burn your hand and lose skin, hoping the friction of said burnt skin is enough

>>28501455
troll

>>28501447
congrats, you just decocked and safetied your shit, get ready for that surprise

>>28501204
Buy an M&P.

Never look back

>>28501464
How, my thumb and forefinger where below it how did it move down.

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>>28500822
I own one and love it, Really accurate, nice trigger, decent sights, hi cap double stack mags, I dig that safety. It is a little bulky but I don't think anymore than a Glock 19 (not hating on glock) but its bulkiness doesnt stop me from hammering 2 liters and gallon gugs from 30 yards away

>>28501447
That causes the same problem nogunz. You really don't shoot these guns under stress do you?

Also you can't clear a stove pipe or double feed with a sling shot.

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>>28501513
How do you even believe that.

>>28501531
Because I was trained on how to properly clear both.

>>28500890
>having child hands

>heavy
>big
>slide safety
>sexy as fuck

these are not cons

>>28501479
Thats another one im thinking about. Im between the M&P, the 92FS, and the Solo CDP from Kimber. But Ill probably end up getting all 3 eventually.

>>28500822
For a range gun its fine, big dor for carry.
If youre like me with massive hands its great to shoot. You feel like no recoil due to its size and weight. I love shooting it.

>>28501562
What are you even going on about that you should not have to change your training to the weapon platform, you would not treat a ak like an ar and wonder how the mag release works so don't treat a 92 like a glock in training.

>>28500822
-IT'S HUGE
-factory 15rd mags in a frame that should hold at a minimum 17, pistol's been around 30 years and while like 3 other companies make flush-fit 17rd mags Beretta refuses to
-factory mags don't last very well
-slide mounted safeties are objectively inferior to frame mounted safeties
-FUD about the locking block shearing, this only affected the M9 and 92F, 92FS, 92G, M9A1 and later are fine, recall happened

It's a decent target pistol but it's too large to CC and the grips are fat enough it doesn't fit people with small hands.

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Why wouldn't you get one, fuck the haters

>>28501196
>larger than pistols that fit 18-20rds flush
The only excuse is it's old

Also Beretta mags are 15rd mags. They themselves do not make a higher-cap mag

>>28501605
I was trained on the M9 you stupid cunt, stop assuming and realize that you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

>>28501606
true
they now ship with 17rd mags
false in most cases they are comparable
opinion
true

>>28501624
They do http://www.berettausa.com/en-us/beretta-92fs-magazine-9mm-17-unpackaged/1383746/

>>28501632
Why are you assuming I was not trained on it and don't know what I am talking about that my 1SG told me before qual.

>>28501676
Because you are saying things that no one teaches, or would never work.

>>28501579
Avoid the CDP, Buy a shield or a nano instead, for a full sized buy a M&P or a railed decocker only 92G-SD or just get a PX4 (I suggest you shoot them first). Also the M9A3 has a redesigned safety selector (reangled and reshaped and sprung different) and there is the potential to go decocker only on that platform in the future

>>28501196
I wasn't complaining about those, just saying common things I've heard others say

I like the 92 well enough

>>28501676
>beretta
>factory 17rd mags
This must be new within the last 3-5 months. Work at an LGS, literally all of our inventory comes with 15rd mags.

The singular M9A3 we got did have 17rd mags though but they're very clearly stamped Promag.

>>28500822
Why do faggots cry about a slide safety? Dumbest shit ever. If you are so tacticool and a wannabe operator, don't fucking use it.

>>28500952
>>28500983
>>28501042
>>28501229
>>28501300
>>28501318
>>28501351
>>28501334
>>28501387
>>28501409
>>28501429
>>28501447
>>28501464
>>28501482
Fuck both of you. I want one.

>>28501691
How does pulling back on the slide serrations with your thumb and forefinger under the safety not work?

>>28501723
I didn't tell you not to get one fagot, I told you to get the Gmodel or get it converted to G model.

>>28501727
It doesn't clear malfunctions fast or properly.

>>28501737
How does it not?

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>>28501737
>I told you to get the Gmodel or get it converted to G model.

No you didn't. No one has ever told me that.

Fuck you for suggesting it.

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>>28501760
Damn, Im gonna have to get those wood grips as well when i order it.

>>28501756
You have to pull the cartridge out you fucking nogunz. You also have to pull really hard to clear a double feed.

>>28501760
Right here you illiterate nigger.>>28501021

>>28501791
And that changes because you are now aiming it at the person to your left and decocking it?

It's not a bad gun. It's like a 1911 though, a top of the line service pistol of its time that makes an excellent range toy now.

If you plan on doing anything else with it (cc, hd, even issuing a service pistol NOW) you should have your head examined.

>>28501804
What the fuck are you talking about? You can twist your body you dumb nogunz fuck.

>>28500924
for 385 you should definitely buy it

>>28501814
Nah ill probably use it at the range and open carry it at work but open carrying at my store is more for show than anything else

>>28501817
Because every power racker I've seen points it to their non dominant hand And most of those flag the shit out of the person their.

>>28501727
in a stressful situation you are much more inclined to grab anything you can - the safety for example it's a nice bit of leverage on these.
Which means you can activate the safety and also decock the gun in a stressful situation

>>28501814
The P226 was better in every concievable way and still performs like a raped ape to this day with none of these problems, the 92 was cheaper and "good enough"

>>28501859
No you haven't sen this because you are nogunz.

>>28500822
Of all pistols I've fired this one feels most natural. Like pointing my index finger. Just point and pop. The increased size prevents manlets from taking advantage of the incredibly smooth recoil resulting from that size. Let's you groups bullets well and rapidly. Pulls apart so easily too. Invite anyone who hates on it to eat a spam can if dicks.

>>28501902
In other words, it met the requirements of the government better than its competitors

>>28501760
Then get a decocking 92G-SD - it has rails and standard night sites (may also have a threaded barrel option), plus you get a discount anyway.

>>28501908
HAHAHAHA yes I have nofriends.

>>28500822
>slide mounted safety
Don't like.
>Thick grip
Don't like.
>Ex-Army fanboys claiming it's more reliable than it actually is.
Don't like.

That's all. They're probably pretty good guns. Actually the new version looks pretty sweet.

>>28501204
Where do you work?

>>28501941
This still ignores the point that slide safeties suck because they hinder malfunction clearing.

>>28501959
No they don't if you have trained for a slide safety.

>>28501954
Cabelas, not really a gun store per say but I work in the ammo department so i ignore everything else ever. I also work at a mom and pop gun shop but I dont get discounts thru them.

>>28500822
I dunno man. I dig mine a lot, points naturally, I actually like the trigger except the travel. Really the only complaint I have is that to upgrade the front sight you need a gunsmith or a gunsmiths skills and knowledge.

>>28501972
No amount of training can fix the fact that the safety is on the serations.

>>28501718
> last 3-5 months
Nah son, I bought my 92A1 used in July 2014 and it came 3 Beretta 17's. Also, it was one of the ones built in Italy and shipped over, so it probably wasn't even close to being new when I bought it.

I'm of the opinion the military shouldn't replace the 92 with a plastic framed gun, but I'm also fairly certain nothing Beretta can put out is up to the task

>>28501606
You can get Mecgars super cheap.

>>28501982
Its above them not on them have you even held one.

Why no love for the Cougar, it's better in every way than the 92?

>>28501110
I have a Makarov too. I like both but for different purposes.

Beretta for full sized capacity carry innawoods and Makarov for EDC and concealed.

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>>28501946
I really don't like the one in the OP at all but this new one with the new grip, rail and threaded barrel seems a lot more palatable.
Still don't like slide mounted safeties.

>>28502040
No one likes its current form the px4, its not bad its just forgettable.

>>28502056
>9mm for innawoods
huh?

>>28502031
I know that, but the safety covers them, and you typically come over the top of the slide. The safety is right there in the same place that more serrations would be. It still causes problems, there is a reason the army is ditching it.

>>28502062
http://www.beretta.com/en-us/92-fs-centennial/
There you go faggot.

>>28501946
>>Ex-Army fanboys claiming it's more reliable than it actually is.

That's funny because I hear the opposite. Usually because military armorers are too lazy to actually take care of the gun. The people who use them treat them like shit because "I don't care. I don't own it. LOL"

>>28502020

I'm of the opinion the military should stop issuing pistols to non SOF personnel.

Officers and senior enlisted can drag their rifles to chow like the rest of 'em.

>>28502089
Better but why do the sights hang off the rear of the slide blocking access to the hammer? That's kind of dumb.

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>>28502086
No it doesn't, try coming from the back instead.

Local armslist has a lsiting for a 92fs for $400. Low round count, looks new, etc.

>>28502136
Because its a limited edition gun for fags with to much money.

>>28501977
Cool shit. I work at Gander (no need to apologize) so we get 3point5 deals as well. I recommend taking advantage of the Spyderco and Benchmade deals if you have them.

>>28502147
No, I will work it the way you are supposed to, from the top since it helps clear malfunctions.

>>28502194
Yeah we have those too, I still have to do the test for them they're pretty annoying but the discounts are nice.

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So.. the special edition comes in an Army style ammo can?
Remember a few posts ago where implied it was for Army fanboys... yeah.
Seriously, I don't know anybody who owns one and wasn't issued one in the army. You could say that its' a good thing but to me it's more about some grunt trying to relive glory days and hanging on to their indoctrination of whatever the army told them.

>>28502217
...and from the back doesn't?

>>28501278
Cabellas, Gander, Basspro, or Big 5 employee?

>>28502252
Oh my fucking god we have been over this. You can't clear double feeds and stove pipes with the sling shot method.

>>28502277
And that does not make any cents like not even any pennys why you believe that.

>>28502262
Cabelas yeah, I work there and at a local gun store

>>28500822
People with baby hands hate the safety. And some people hat that you can't carry them cocked and locked.

>>28502313
I've seen a broken one in the arms room once that would not decock.

>>28500822
its really nice and accurate, just kind of big and heavy for a 9mm

>>28500822
Because it is a seriously mediocre gun. Stupidly heavy for a full size 9mm. FUCK AWFUL trigger. Slide safety is prone to deactivating from hasty draw from holster = ded. Designed by greasy mobster war losing Italians. Hammer fired and not striker fired. Also it looks fucking gay.

>>28501791
>Right here you illiterate nigger

I'm not OP. I am a random 15th party. Fuck you.

>>28502303
It makes sense to people who know how to use guns.

>>28502461
Point stands, read the thread before you run your mouth.

>>28502604
>Point stands, read the thread before you run your mouth.

No. You.

>>28502377
>Slide safety is prone to deactivating from hasty draw from holster

So carry with an empty chamber? Derr.

>>28502604
How, you cant change your form to account for your current weapon you sound like a tactitard.

>>28502665
Who the fuck carries with an empty chamber?

>>28502712

Apparently people who carry Berettas since they supposedly have god-awful safety

>>28502694
Changing form would make malfunction clearing less likely to succeed. You have to practice power stroke this is the only way.

>>28502870
you are stupid

>>28501455
Fuck sake. Is everyone a literal pussy? I get hot brass in the face everytime I shoot. Everytime. Why would you care about barrel burns, while clearing a malfunction? But, what if I'm just training? That would be a good time to learn not to do that shit. But, what if it's in the middle of a gunfight? You won't fucking care.

The gun is fine. And I don't even especially like the damn things. It's fine. It works. it's fine.

>>28502888
I win you have no argument anymore.

The fact is there is only one way to clear malfunctions, and that is not with the slingshot method. Face it slide safety sucks, and you fucking suck.

>>28502956
You haven't had an argument at all. So you lost after the first response. You can clear a malfunction with any method that properly manipulates the slide and the POWER RUNK is not proper on a 92 see page 12 of the owners manual.

>>28501791
dafuq? No you don't, you clear stovepipes the same way you clear dud rounds, tap-rack-assess (not bang because we don't want to train reflex of automatically shooting every time we tap-rack), no"pulling out of the cartridge". As for double feeds, you clear those by locking the slide back, dropping the mag, and racking it again.

Neither of those require any special handling beyond "rack the slide in whichever way is comfortable to you as long as it gets the round out."

>>28503100
He is a troll don't bother unless you enjoy laughing at a retard thinking he is funny.

Fact: it's become too mainstream to hate 1911s and the 92 is the next best hugely well-known handgun that didn't already have a hate movement.
They'll be coming for Czs next

>>28503073
You can not clear a stove pipe by racking the slide unless you shack the gun around. You can not clear a double feed by sling shotting.

>>28503100
You clear stove pipes by garbing the spent round and using it like a charging handle. Other wise it will bounce around in the action.

>>28503161
Once again see page 12 of the owners manual.

I don't dislike them; rented one recently and was consistently hitting well within a 2x4 sq inch box at 15 yards. Also they are the chosen sidearm of Chow Yun-Fat, so there's that.

I don't, however, enjoy the flip-up safety. What's the reason for that? Safeties that flip down at least make sense in that all you have to do is sweep your thumb down when you draw. This one seems like you'd have to actually check because the ergonomics do not give you a good sense of whether the safety has actually been fully flipped off.

>>28503204
Had to have it to get those sweet US and french contracts.

>>28502932
>at the range
>buddy brings his ak47 with 70rd drum
>I'm shooting an ar15 that's his dad's
>both ripping off shots down range simultaneously
>standing to his right,getting straight pelted with hot brass
>wouldn't trade it for any thing in the world

>>28503183
Show me pussy. Owners manuals don't even have malfunction clearing in them.

>>28503233
I tried it would not load to 4chan something about wrong file type or corrupted file. And you are right it tells you the proper way to manipulate the slide which is nothing like what you are saying so you are a wrong faggot.

>>28503161
>You clear stove pipes by garbing the spent round and using it like a charging handle
...are you seriously suggesting that instead of tilting the gun to the side, pulling the slide back, and letting gravity do its work, you should grab on to a less-than-one-inch protrusion from the top of the slide and using the iron strength in your fingers pull the slide all the way back with the spent casing as a prybar?

>>28503204

There's a bit of a technique to that. Involves driving your thumb up as you're establishing a grip. The recess in the grip panels facilitates this.

However, I think a G configuration (decocker only) is vastly superior to the FS configuartion. An alternative is to simply carry the gun with the hammer down and the safety off.

>>28503226
But did it have to flip up? I don't mind a manual safety because plenty of guns have those. I do mind the relative ease by which it can be accidentally engaged and the relative unease to disengage it during the draw stroke.

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>92fs allow for constant battle buddy contact

>>28503337
It had to block the firing pin so up up is in the direction of the firing pin down moves it to block it.

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>>28500890
>Get one OP, unless you're a small-handed little bitch.

You should go into sales.

"So I can put you in a Ford Focus today with a nav system, leather interior, and lifetime warranty. Let's go back and do some paperwork."

"I'm actually having second thoughts. You mind if I go home, talk to my wife, and get back to you."

"Yeah, I'll just have the secretary to look out for a call from a small-handed little byotch!"

>>28503350
whatcha paintin there

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>>28503386

>>28503292
Sure you did.

>you should grab on to a less-than-one-inch protrusion

No, you grab that and the slide.

>>28503439
Why tilting it and pulling the slide works just fine for everyone I know.

This thread gave me aids and I don't care how tacticool this guy is trying to be:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAdgcxGa4eg
That is how you clear a mother fucking STOVE PIPE.

>>28503409
You know how I know the one in front is Diane Feinstein?
Because apparently no one else is allowed to have arms, that's how.

>>28503533
Thats the wrong gun.

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>>28503556

>>28503464
That is good for when you are at the range, but not while you are defending yourself.

>>28503559
TAP RACK BANG
any gun, you trolling mofo.

>>28503655
Why would you use a method that safes your gun while defending your self.

>>28503677
Except you claim it safes this one so it must be modified.

>>28503533
Thats what I said, but all the nogunz said I was wrong.

>>28503722
It is the only way to clear that malfunction. In clearing my malfunction i have caused another problem. This is due to design, therefore we are back to square one.

Slide safeties suck.

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>>28502062
>Hates FDE/Tan/Brown/ w/e
>Love the sweet heavy hotness of a 92 series
>Buys a Vertec because rails = cool factor of 9000+

>>28503755
Then you should modify the way you clear malfunctions for this safety placement.

>>28503755
>Slide safeties suck
Yeah If you have little girly hands, you little baby
HEAVY HOTTY 92s 5LYFE

>>28503722
>Why would you use a method that safes your gun while defending your self.
You don't push down on the safety. Lever up is fire position. They do this on purpose, you pull back on lever, it's actually angled up slightly from your grip and the pull will push it towards the fire position.
Your argument is invalid.
Slide mounted safety is lame, it's in a weird position and I think it is backwards operation which could be confusing under stress if you are not trained or are also trained on gun like 1911 which has lever move in opposite direction. I do not slide mounted safety but tap rack and bang will work just fine and you are wrong.

>>28503792
>>28503755
If you plan on using this gun if not stop your complaining about things that do not affect you.

>>28503792
>>28503823
>>28503797
I have large hands, which is why when I go to clear malfunctions properly I actuate the safety. You can not clear malfunctions properly and quickly with the sling shot method.

Slide safeties suck, convert your gun to a G model, and stop being a range warrior.

>>28500822
anyone who hates on the beretta 92 is a milfag who knows how horribly abused and raped army issue m9s are, neglected full of carbon for months on end without cleaning sitting in that arms room, begging first sergeant to get the joes to clean them.

it's an outstanding, full steel, 9x19 pistol. slide safety is only an issue if you are such a piece of detritus with high finger fat index, and such low finger flexibility that you cant even move your thumb in such a way as to quickly and comfortably use the safety.

that said, there are definitely equivalent or better, lighter, for cheaper, 9mm alternatives on the market. very few of which share this pistol's lifespan if well maintained.

>>28503847
No

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>>28501619
hi friend

>>28503881
>full steel
found the no guns

>>28503884
Yes

>>28503941
NO

>>28503881
The M9's I used or saw in the muhreens were usually in pretty good shape. Only shot them on 1 occasion to get qualified. First time shotting a Beretta. I thought it was great. I plan on getting a 92G someday.

>>28503969
YES

>>28503227
Nearly the same for me

>buddy brings new ar
>watch how this thing ejects
>sure thing
>28/30 straight to the face
>one to the neck
>one to the shoudler
>repeat all day
>goodtimes

>>28501606
>too large to cc

Manlet detected.

I was CCing my 92FS all day today, appendix carry sux for riding in cars and sitting general but it works.

>>28501721
Because slide safeties get inadvertently activated at precisely the time where it will get you killed, therefore you MUST train to use it. Its a shitty design when it comes time to actually use it, also. Unlike the 1911 and P35.

>>28503979
19D here, 1st cav fort hood.

we dont train, we dont shoot, we dont do shit.
we do platoon-level training til everyone is basic training level then 15 people ETS, we get 15 new fuzzies, and the cycle repeats. our m9s are absolute trash. not only poorly maintained in terms of carbon, but so horribly abused and thrown around over their (30?) year lives that tolerances of the mechanical parts is suffering. you can shake and bend our m9s. some dont even disassemble without force.

Ive been here for the first 3.1 and last 3.1 yrs of my army life, i can't speak for other units, but ours are sub-fuckin standard and i wouldnt pay more than $100 for one if i saw it on the shelf of my local gunshop.

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Disregard haters, acquire Beretta.
Post your 92's.

>>28502712
Joos.

>>28500822
It's a big gun

>>28503161
>use the spent round as a charging handle.........

For the love of God, rip your penis from your body and then jump off of a cliff, in front of a moving train, with a noose around your neck, and shoot yourself in the head. Do whatever it takes to ensure you don't accidentally reproduce. Your ancestors are ashamed of you and sincerely hope you either die or become a prison bitch.

>>28503847
God you're annoying. You have a hateboner for slide mounted safeties, we get it. Believe it or not, some people have no problem clearing malfunctions with a 92fs. But HURR DEY DO IT RONG. Alright, whatever mister range ninja.

OP, get the 92fs. It's a sweet shooter, and you won't have any trouble racking the slide if you're not a moron.

>>28500822
Own one, love it, traded in my gramps 92s for it because I just didn't like that heel slide release.

Just ordered my M9A3 to have just for shits

>>28504080
Well, not trying to be a motard, but marines are known for excessively cleaning weapons. Ive whole work days cleaning rifles. Pistols pretty much only get issued to officers and SNCOs but the armory clerks make sure they clean there shit too. Some M9s are loose but all seem to function fine.

>>28500822
op, get an original 92 with a frame safety. italians were retarded for wanting the safety on the slide.

That said, I carry a p64 and have no problems with the slide safety. It just takes getting used to considering every other gun I have has a frame safety.

>>28504670
I broke the safety on my P64. Cant find a replacement. Not a big deal. I dont plan to carry it. Hurts the webbing between thumb and index.

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Get one man great gun

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DICKS EVERYWHERE

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>>28504180
Foh' you.

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OP here, paperwork filled out, expecting my new beretta soon

>>28502074
Not everyone lives in Grizzly territory, and two legged predators are still the most dangerous kind.

>>28500822
Shitty trigger, GI mags (the cheapest) are shit, poor capacity for its size, it's fucking huge.

The capacity it's so bad for other guns of its era, but it's a dated design.

>>28511559
opinion
haven't seen any
17rds is poor capacity now ok
true

>>28500924
>>28500924

Nigger for 385 buy it to shove up your ass and make people on the Internet gay gawd dayum how was this a hard decision

Holy fuck 385 for a new prostate stimulator, poor fag jelly maker AND it shoots?!

And fucking accurate?

Seriously

92fs is the best pistol I have in my arsenal, nothing is as accurate. The only way I could see it being better is if the slide was tinifered like glocks.

>>28500822
because the Browing HP and 1911 are much better guns.

>>28511699
A gun that it replaced because it was inaccurate and jam prone is better than it now.

>>28500822
I love mine, got it cheap years ago, performs great.

>>28500822
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>>28504211
Except I am right>>28503533

>>28504259
Just hope he doesn't have to clear malfunctions.

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>>28511670

>>28500890
That G3/clone though