/meg/ - Military Enlistment General

>>28498284
As former cav, that is cringe inducing.

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>cav
>not transexual

pick one lad

Quick question.
I've already been through MEPS, took the ASVAB, already signed my contract with the Corps, etc.
But just how much poon will I get as a Marine?
I'm joining because it's something I've always wanted to do, the women are secondary to me, but is there a chance I'll do my 4+ years active duty and come out a virgin?

>>28498305
Anything related to cav is cringe inducing.
*tips Stetson*

>>28498323
Considering you're a marine, you'll be the poon.

>>28498323

that's literally 100% up to you.

If you dress like a retard and act retarded when you're off post the only poon you'll be getting will be disgusting, if any.

If you dress and act like a normal human you'll be good to go. Train hard and you'll have a nice body too, that'll make it even easier.

Unless you're a manlet then you're FUKT, aesthetics or not

>>28498305
there's no way that's a real promo, is there?

>>28498326
Stetsons are sweet as hell you fucking yankee

>>28498305
>>28498326

Were you cav scout, though? That makes all the difference in the world.

>>28498323
You will go to and be stationed at places where the female to male ratio is drastically worse than anyplace you've ever lived up until this point.

You're thinking 'well yeah but I'll be a Marine and bitches love Marines.' Sure thing, but that really only works places where there aren't a shitload of Marines. You will also be the lowest ranking, least desireable Marine in almost any situation during your first enlistment unless all your friends are ugly.

Bottom line: Military service will not solve your virginity.

>>28498377
Nope, just making fun of the fedoras of the military world.

>>28498271
>lol of course not. Ranger Medic is one of the most overrecruited positions in the whole Army.
srsly? I'd assume that a very small section of 68w are both upper 200s PT and smart enough for SOCM and willing to do the job

>>28498377
Yes, any promotional ads or gimmicks by recruiters on 19D are lies.

>>28498417
Nope. 68W Option 40s are handed out like leaflets at a rally.

It's special snowflake syndrome: it's not enough to just be a Ranger. No, you have to be a special Ranger. And since all the other Team Fortress jobs are largely fictional, people gravitate toward medic.

>>28498377
>>28498428
As a former Cav Scout, I'd like to know who is actually promoting this nonsense.

My unit had Stetsons and spurs...which WE NEVER WORE.

We did our jobs. All this >hurr cav scout nonsense was un-heard of while I was in. My guess it's all pre-enlistee kids enjoying the inter-branch and inter-service rivalries before earning the right to any of that banter.

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>>28498459
Your gay.

>>28498438
That's dumb, why tf would anyone want to be a medic if they're not interested in saving lives?
> tfw I'm a special snowflake
> tfw when I just wanna save lives in the suck

>>28498549
They want to save lives.

The Army needs people to check blood pressure in waiting rooms of clinics and give flu shots.

They don't want to do that.

They join "to save lives" with their opt 40.

They drop their opt 40 in AIT or fail rasp.

They end up checking blood pressure and giving flu shots.

>>28498568

Do people really dump their Opt 40's and 18x's in basic that often? Why do people join to do high speed shit and then immediately drop the contract?

>>28498568
AIT couldn't possibly be so bad to drop the option 40? I assume that PT would be easy af even if you're a weenie i mean why get an op 40 and drop it at all. If you take that contract you should stick it out until they fail you not until you fail yourself wtf

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>>28498583

Special snowflake syndrome. It's not enough to be just a regular grunt anymore.
People now need to be like the super duper high speed soldiers in video games and movies.

I'm still here bitching. I just think it's so fucked that the commander and 1st sgt are holding my chapter process till graduation. Is that even legal, that's like 2 months away

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>>28498583
>>28498606

>>28498658
dude shut up

>>28498658
Chapters are entirely at the commander's discretion. He's probably waiting until you're a final PT failure so that he can discharge you for that rather than for your depression.

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>>28498808

>>28498808
Have to cut run by 30secs to pass. I'll probably fail it on Tuesday. I'm trying light antidepressants as given by doctor for 10 days and if that doesn't work then he's recommending I get chaptered to commander. But they are fucked up and will start the chaptering when our class graduates in 2 months. Then he days it will take more months to finish it. That's why I'm wondering if u should get super comfy here with all my vidya for the long run. Ill probably just be doing some CQ and chilling.

>>28498658
> legal
> you signed a contract
> lying about depression to get out of said contract

Holy shit man, stop being such a bitch

>>28498882
I'm not lying my mom has depression and her father is bipolar.

>>28498658
Kill yourself.

>>28498913
I'm reconsidering joining simply because I might work with someone as worthless as you. Eat a fist load of pills.

>>28498913
Depression isn't real you useless fucker. Go read some self help or something.

>>28498913
Why the hell did you just waste everyones time enlisting?

Thank God I'm out.

>>28499026
My friends peer pressured me to join and I rushed through the process without giving it enough thought

>>28499047
>>28498913

There's absolutely no way in hell this is real? I leave for OSUT soon. Please tell me this isn't real.

>>28499047
You just cost the DOD like 30 grand at a time when they're struggling with cutbacks.

You should seriously consider acting on your depressive impulses and ending your life.

>>28498323
The pussy that's contingent on you being a marine is low tier pussy. It might be new and exciting to the thots back in your home town, but there's no bimbo in military towns that's excited by war stories.

>>28499055
Of course it's real. The military is a big, dumb, slow animal that isn't hard to fuck around in/with.
One of my buddies got into Intelligence despite his checkered past with drugs. I was 19D (OP pic related) and we had OSUT at Knox. So many people went AWOL from basic. Another one of my buddies (a medic) got out because he jacked a Master Sergent up against a wall and threatened to "wear his skin like Buffalo Bill" because he made a crack about my buddy's dead partner.
The military is full of tards. ESPECIALLY during peacetime.

>>28498747
True enough.

>>28499078
That's why I'm surprised they would try to hold me here for months wearing money feeding me etc when they could just speed through getting me it saving money that there are losing.

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>>28499115
I feel as though suicide would be beneficial for you and a lot of people around you.

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Another thread derailed by 13Faggot

>>28499115
probably have to fire everyone who talked to you at MEPS and your recruiter. they're probably retooling enlistment SOP to make it harder for normal people who actually want to be there so they don't have another you happen. thanks a lot dickbag, enjoy social security in your mom's basement.

>tfw on day shift for the first time in 6 months
Fucking sucks man, also anyone with questions about joining Air Force feel free to ask

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>>28499607

>>28499613
kek i made that mistake one too many times

>>28499603
why wont my faggot af recruiter give me an intel slot? why is he pushing fucking security forces or eod so hard? why does he say "oh you want ts/sci? crypto linguistics bro"

>>28499639
Because if you take SF, EOD, or linguist you'll most likely leave sooner, way more slots for those than most other things. Not sure if they still get bonuses for people doing those but it can make them look better to leadership. Just gotta wait it out, hope they don't kick you out of DEP after a few months

>>28498747
I would hate having to be a gangster, but gangster shit sounds tight

>>28499672
linguist is currently at $14k, but its not about that. i just dont want those jobs, even if the bonus was $30k. some kid was on here Friday (day after my recruiter says "sorry bruh, no slots") and said he got the job i wanted that day, ships out next month. wtf

>>28499766
Different recruiting stations get different slots available. Recruiting HQ sends what they need to all the different recruiting stations and it's up to the stations to fill whatever they're given. Some get intel, most just get what is needed most which is all security forces, spec ops, and maintenance

>>28499793
i have my asvab scheduled tomorrow. if i go in there and fucking crush it, would that sway him towards the job i want?

if not, I'm flipping him the bird and taking my scores next door to army and getting my job

>>28499812
It can help sway them, if you crush it there's a better chance they'll let you wait each month to see what comes down instead of them pressuring you into taking something shitty but there's no guarantee. And if something from the list they'll have you make comes up you have to take it no matter what. So might be better to go to the Army, they'll probably be better about giving what you want just have fun dealing with more retards and shitty living conditions

>>28499848
right on thanks man, might be worth the wait.

>>28498284
Do ranger recruiters look for rasp volunteers at 68w ait? There's some old in for from 2012 that says they do but idk if it's still current.

>>28499893
It really is, just be smart about making your list. Make intel your 1, put down as many medical as they'll let you because those never come up, don't put down the shitty maintenance cause they'll probably make you put at least 1 on there

>>28498417
Ricky has said that they always need medics because if you fail socm you get rfs'd and the amount of things they learn after is immense too. I'm just hoping they have rasp recruiters at 68w ait

So do DS's go through rehearsals on how to be so eloquent or do they just bullshit on the fly?

>>28499908
what if i put geoint, space ops, whats another one that they never fill? i'm not interested in anything else really, and i know if i put linguist on there i'm shipping that day..

>>28499948
they watch full metal jacket together every friday night

>naked

>>28499950
I know my recruiter let me put 2 medical jobs down, there's also photographer and journalism never get picked, technical applications specialist (9s100) is cool and never gets picked, bioenvironmental engineering, fire protection can take a while. Geoint is really cool, my mom taught at one of the schools for her last 2 years and the main HQ is an incredible building

How much do ASVABS count for? What kind of job should I gun for with a 98?

>>28499934
>>28499934
Isnt that the opposite of what that guy said? That they don't really need any more medics?

RFS is getting kicked out right? And you mean that have to learn a lot after SOCM? Ive heard SOCM is harder than RASP, which is daunting but really exciting too

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>>28498284
Hey guys, I live in British Columbia, Canada and I'd like to form a secession movement for Cascadia, balkanization of America and all that shit tbqh. I'd like to join the military to gain some knowledge and experience in guerrilla warfare, maybe some warfare tactics. Obviously I would have to study most of these things on my own but I believe that the military can help discipline me and teach some necessary ideas. My original life plan was to either get into HVAC(R) or work at a lube shop for a few years until I can get to a BMW dealership or whatever, what branch should I into mates? Sorry if this is dumb, pls help.

Any officers here (specifically us navy)? What are some things that often lead to career suicide?

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>>28500151
I'd like to expand a bit. I'm 19, hapa (someone told me this would make a big difference since most of Canada's military is exclusively white).

>>28500075
Which branch?

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>>28500178
Also any other Cascadia (PNW) fags in here?

>>28500151
>>28500178
>>28500191
If you were just trying to do 4 and out maybe just try Air Force maintenance, just don't be a crew chief. Also I'm from WA

>>28500063
ha, all great ideas. i was the one that posted the % to book last thread. as you can see, most of the jobs you just posted are 0% or .1%.
yes either IN1X1 with you guys or 35G or 12Y with army, that's the goal. space ops seems pretty based also

>>28500210
Wait should I just be a Refrigeration and Mechanical Systems Technician then?

>>28500177
DUI and not being able to keep your dick in your pants are #1 and #2.

>>28500190
Chair Force

>>28500217
There's always a way to game the system, just gotta know how. and if you really can get 9s100, do it. They do cool shit.

>>28500236
HVAC is a decent job in the Air Force if you can get it

>>28500247
Go for intel, linguist, 9s100. Most of the high ASVAB shit is cool

>>28500247
Don't know much about AF. Intelligence/cryptology is always a good option if you qualify. It's an interesting field with lots of possibilities for duty stations. Or if you decide to get out, it can be an incredibly easy transition to civ doing close to same thing (if wanted), or something else.

But fuck that, go JTAC/TACP

The marines want to pay me 6k to go through their officer school whether I enlist or not.

Are they that desperate for the next generation of butterbars or is the experience really that shitty?

What should I expect of it, if I decide to go for it?

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>>28500262
Is HVAC hard to get as a job? What would you suggest as a fallback position? I have no idea what to into.

>>28500190
Not him but I also scored high(95). I wanna see the world, do high speed shit while I'm still young. I'm no athelete but I've got at least a year or more to get fit.

>>28500313
Which branch?

>>28500293
From what I've heard HVAC and other CE jobs aren't aren't hard to get, other good maintenance options are sheet metal and NDI, but those may not come up. They are the best maintenance jobs though

>>28500327
I wish I knew enough about the branches to really make that decision. The one with the least bullshit.

>>28500286
Officer Candidate School is hard as fuck, but if you make it through you'll be treated like royalty among Marines. Everyone who's enlisted will hate you, because you'll be so unattached to the reality of things and make decisions for people you don't interact with.

The pay is good too

It's worth it imo

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Well, I ship out to lackland in 9 days. It's weird how 4 months of DEP just flew by
Linguist life incoming.

>>28500262
9s100 seems cool, I'll put that down too i guess. geo or signals or space, then 9s100 and sere as backups. my recruiter will think i have autism or something

>>28500364
Bullshit is in every branch, the Air Force is in a horrible place right now

>>28500375
Have fun in Cali, you'll probably get Pashto

>>28500388
Your recruiter will probably ignore you for a while, my recruiter only payed attention to me because I told her I'd do maintenance and to just let me know if anything decent drops

>>28500286
the marines get paid 6k for officer school? shouldve applied there but fuck i wouldve been pummeled

>>28500364
They all have huge amounts of bullshit. You just gotta buckle down and deal with it.

"High speed" can mean so many things. 35M, SWCC, Intel/cryptology, JTAC...

>>28500177
What about staying in one location for 2+ consecutive duty stations? Different command, same zip

>>28500328
Cool, what branch and position would you recommend if I want to get a proper military experience, how is it being an infantryman?

>>28500456
Not much to say on infantry as I'm Air Force maintenance, from my cousin who's army infantry unless you're deployed life is kind of bullshit. But it'll definitely be more military like

>>28500437
>>28500437
>They all have huge amounts of bullshit. You just gotta buckle down and deal with it.
>"High speed" can mean so many things. 35M, SWCC, Intel/cryptology, JTAC...
My main interest is in medicine. I wanna learn cool guy shit. Really I want to learn as much as possible, everything.

How is Navy OCS compared to boot camp? Seriously considering getting a commission (was active duty for 6 years, been out for 4 now)

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>>28500472
I just want to get some experience and knowledge under my belt so I can lead a revolution and civil war for Cascadian independence (ultimately the destruction of the union).

PS: pls no report.

>want to go SF
>whats a good prep MOS to enlist as to make me as ready as possible for the testing?
I know EVERYONE wants to be SF and people are sick of hearing that, but google didn't help.

>>28500515
It's all good I support Cascadia. You probably wouldn't get revolution leading experience just being infantry, so try and get something you'll have time to get a degree with and then lead a glorious revolution

>>28498284
>That fucking picture.

Yup, that cringy bullshit is exactly the thing Cav Scouts would make. Nobody but Cav thinks Cav is actually cool. Cav Scouts are what happens when science tries to create a dumber version of infantry.

>>28500494
I guess it depends, but I would recommend Navy. It's one thing to be a battlefield medic - I can't imagine much more of a more fulfilling and educational foray into medicine at a young age - but the Navy offers much more than that. We have two ships whose whole mission is medicine. They deploy overseas to countries like Indonesia and Malaysia, and respond to domestic disasters (major hurricanes).

>>28500431
my army recruiter started ignoring me after it started to become clear that i wasn't going to be an easy 11b sign up. so i went to af to see what they had going on. dude wanted to meet immediately, gave me practice asvab, was very impressed with score (lol), said "ok with a score like that, we can bang out ASVAB and MEPS like right now, fast track".
after all that, i told him i wanted intel and the whole mood shifted. he thought he'd get an easy security forces or general technician book. so i played along withhis linguist spiel, scheduled ASVAB (tomorrow morning) and was on the phone with army recruiter almost the same second i left the AF office.
now that i met with another branch, i've got her attention again, she informs me that they DO have Intel available, when can i sign the papers? i told her i'm going to take the test, give him another chance, and if he tries to play games and not get me what i want, we'll talk

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>>28500530
Cool thanks for the help.

>>28499613
Kek

>>28500571
I'm unfamiliar with the Army process, I'm pretty sure you can sign any job at any time with them whereas Air Force is the get jobs once a month and then call anybody it matches up with. Pretty sure Army could leave sooner, but yeah as soon as they know you're looking at other branches they'll play ball more. Hell I talked to a marine recruiter once because I was a half hour early to meet mine and they were basically willing to give me anything

>>28500534
So what super-cool unit do you belong to? Not Cav, just asking?

Hey /meg/, I want to stop being such a disorganized pussy. I managed to get /fit/, but the rest of my life is still a shambles. I thought, 'Why not join the military'?

The only thing is, all my friends- army, airforce, marines- have made it sound like it's 5% cool guy stuff, 35% truly useless bullshit, and 60% waiting (probably in formation, in the rain). They've all told me unequivocally it's a waste of time, even at an officer level.

I've heard SO is the place to go for not wasting time and being a cool guy. Let's be real though, I'm posting on 4chan, what chance do I have at SO?

Anyway, I want to work hard, study hard, and get paid/trained to do cool shit. I don't want to be treated as useless cannon fodder. Are there any options I should be looking at? Is my perception of the military wrong?

>>28500627
i just want AF for the education stuff, but in reality 35G is IN1X1 is IS3910 is 12Y, doesn't matter

>>28500648
I have a meh college degree too if that helps.

>>28500628
11B that went 89D.

Here's a good rule of thumb about the military: Any soldier who describes his MOS as "basically 'x'" where 'x' is a different MOS is ashamed of his job. You meet tons of Cav who describe themselves as "basically infantry". That means they are riding on the coattails of the job the want be/think they are.

>>28500648
Air Force spec ops have something like a 5% pass rate, and if you fail you get put in a shittier job than normal. Air Force has a lot of bullshit but if you play your cards right you can get a decent job with enough downtime to do school or something

>>28500652
I say go for it then, just get everything documented and read everything in a contract. Had a guy in my squadron that didn't know there was a 4 year guard/reserve requirement if he only did 4 years active, and he's already been in for 2

>>28500684
wow, yes I'll definitely read the fine print, thanks for the advice man

>>28500684
is there a 4 year reserve requirement for officers if you only do 4 years active duty?

>>28500063
journalism never gets picked?

>https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8E0E30DC47CC8C9C

Holy shit, this looks fun as fuck, I wish I could pay money and do this for the summer.

>>28500731
Unsure of officer requirements, I just know enlisted is 8 year minimum in some form

>>28500748
I know it's rare, I never met anyone in it. Most PA guys I've seen are NCOs

>>28500748
always full, i think is what he means

>>28500662
>hurr Cav meme

I have literally never once heard anyone in Cav describe their job as "basically like" anything, least of all infantry.
Someone really should tell the infantry guys that Cav has zero interest in being infantry.

But while we're talking about soldiers describing their jobs as "basically like" how many dopey-ass 11brooms go around believing that they are just a few courses away from being Rangers?

>>28500116
I'm just going off ricky and my own research. Medics seem to be hard to come by because it's such a long pipeline, then follow on training. No training ever stops even after the school. You're always learning. Based in the havok journal article on socm by a ranger, it's less physically challanging but it's immensely more academically challanging. It's also 9 months long I believe.

I'm just trying to find out if the ranger recruiters come to 68w ait so I can volunteer. I will need med waivers so no option 40 for me

>>28500789
Yeah that, there's never any slots

>>28500813
The infantry shitting on Cav meme is the same as the infantry shitting on everything else meme.

Put quite simply, the infantry has an enormous inferiority complex. Everything they do and say is designed to keep convincing each other that they aren't just infantry because they were literally too stupid for any other job in the Army and too wimpy to be a Marine.

>>28500524
>professionalsoldiers.com

>>28500662
You mean line medics aren't basically 11bs with more stuff to carry????

>>28500938
You mean an 18B isn't just an 11B who takes an extra two years to complete training??

>>28500834
How academically challening? STEM major has been fairly easy so far and thats even with my not so great sreudy habits. And less physically challenging?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Ly1F59wxQ
Is this really what the marines are like?
Just a ton of meat heads screaming at you while you stand around?
Why do all these recruits look like manlets too?

Just did the aptitude test for the adf. Finished all the questions and apparently did really well so ive got all these officer choices for all three branches. I was considering infantry or naval officer but after talking to the recruiter, the recommended fitness level required for army officer is going to be hard since im a 160cm manlet. She recommends a beep test of 12.5+. So basically going to go with maritime warfare officer since the fitness levels are more obtainable. I have no real idea what the role actual involves other then running watch of a ship. Is this basically means first mate in laymans term? Thanks.

>>28500951
Nah, 18b is the god of thunder in a green uniform

>>28500979
so basically infantry

>>28499047
Are you the same dude that said: PT in the morning makes me depressed?

>>28498323
Haha hahahaha haha lol rofl kek. Please, please tell me this is bait.

>>28501001
Yes. I have to do it here when its 20 degrees

>>28500965
lol
How do they not burst out laughing knowing Sgt Meathead cant actually do anything?

>>28501014
This has to be some kind of incredibly complex troll.

>>28500959
Dude Google havok journal socm. It's taught at the paramedic level and it's a 9 month course. Paramedics school is normally 2 years

>>28500999
Oh, sorry, I meant

>No, 18b isn't mentally retarded

That make more sense? I can use smaller words if you'd like

>>28500965
>>28501018
>that drill sargent whos voice is cracking
>"SCR-eee EAMM IT! SCREAM IT!"
Thank god I got above a 5 on my ASVAB

>>28500374
So what would I do if I don't want all the enlisted to hate me forever?

>>28501080
Plan ahead before training and don't do unnecessary things.

Also realize that the lower enlisted can't see the whole plan, but have to obey the orders anyway; so they're going to have high time preference thanks to the environment.

>>28500965
>Why do all these recruits look like manlets too?

The marines primarily recruit overcompensating manlets and other such people insecure in their manhood.

>>28501071
>not getting the joke

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1/3 AF % to book

>>28501136
Sorry, you never can tell in these threads. 11b are everywhere, like tiny dumb ants.

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>>28501181
2/3

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>>28501198

>>28500273
What is jtac/tacp? What do they do? What happens if you wash out of that?

What are some sick jobs in the National Guard /k/?

>>28501393

Not him, but JTAC/TACP are the guys who go out with the regular infantry and military patrols and call in airstrikes. They are basically the air force's regular infantry and they are embedded with other services.

>>28501393
If you wash out have in POL (gas attendants) or Hydraulics (my job that isn't bad if you get a good plane for it)

>>28501437
i thought that's CCT

>>28501478

CCT is that but attached to other SOF plus they do solo operations.

Basically CCT/STO is JTAC/ALO +.

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>>28499613
>unbloused

FUCK OUTTA HERE

>>28501495
my dad is SF, he's pushing me to go CCT if i don't go intel. i'm all "you're not my dad! you just fuck my mom!"

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>>28500151
You sound suspiciously like me.

>>28501517

I was and still am tempted to take one of two routes:

>Intel, wait until captain, get specialized training in HUMINT/SIGINT, then cross over into STO
>Go straight in as an STO and try for the Intel training if I can get into JSOC so that I can shoot for an Activity posting.

>>28501548
>hard way: the career path

>>28501044
Looks like it's 404'd but I understand your point. Further research has lead me to believe SOCM is now a 6mo school, equal to what paramedics do in 2 years. Hard but not impossible.

>>28501037
Isn't 13fox the guy who was on here a couple months ago that wouldn't shut the fuck up about going to basic, I was in Europe for a couple months so I missed out on the story

I have a pretty low GPA, 3.2, due to my first year in college. If I went OCS does that factor into my area of specialty? I don't want to get stuck doing some shitty officer job no one wants. I plan on maxing the PT by the time I graduate, if that factors in.

>>28501618
he couldn't wait, if it's the same kid

>>28501629
And now they are chaptering him out? Lol did the drill sergeants make him do too many push-ups?

>>28501704
he's tired of doing pt in the cold, it makes him sad.

but I'm sure he's still here, he'll pop in to let you know that it's genetic and that its not his fault, its his COs and parents and friends' fault

>>28501537
What should I do pham?

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>>28501732
Oh shit, i remember that kid

Jesus, some fucking dumbshits, i swear.
I would fucking love every second of being in basic, not get sad because >muh PT in the cold

is the irc dead?

>>28501839
The IRC is always dead

>>28501810
HVAC is great money. Lube shops are complete horse shit because I work at one. You won't learn jack shit about cars there, only how to Jew.

>>28501891
>only how to Jew.
I dunno man maybe I'd learn how to Jew until I managed to Jew my way into a nice dealership.

http://www.forces.ca/en/job/refrigerationandmechanicalsystemstechnician-56

Really thinking about it though.

>>28501595
Fuck dude that broke it down step by step. It was a good resource. If you haven't already read lest we forget by leo jenkins. It's his take on the early GWOT as a ranger medic. I thought it went from 6 months to 9. I could be wrong though. Good luck bro.

>>28501933
Go with the HVAC and you won't regret it

I want to get out as much as you fucks want me out. But if they do chapter me they don't start the paperwork till our class graduates which is absolutely fucking stupid.

>>28502093
heyyyoooo riiiiivah

>>28502093
Just kill yourself or go AWOL, not like you matter.

>>28501936
I'll check it out, thanks m8, y-you too

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>13Fox

>>28501627
GPA is huge in terms of competing for jobs. Get your shit together, anon.

>>28502237
I know man, I screwed up my year, failed classes, fucked around. My discipline GPA is like a 3.8, but overall it's a 3.2

;_;

>>28502093
Just attempt to kill yourself.

Make out with a rifle and they'll get you out in a week.

I said attempt, not actually do.

But you might as well, you useless meatbag

>>28502093
get into a fight, you're gone

>>28502093
>>28502311
>This
Who's the person denying your paperwork? Punch them in the face.

>>28502353
>i wonder if i can still shitpost from Levinworth?

>>28502353
They aren't denying my paperwork. First Sergeant told me they don't start working on it until our class graduates. And we just started a week ago so that'll be in 2 ish months. Then he said it takes a couple more months to finish it. This is the only battery that does this. He said it's to make people not quit even though I'm a special legitimate case with doctors recommendation to be discharged I'm still gunna get fucked over by this stupid policy.

>>28502380
They're gonna take away his phone anyway for being a pussy.

>PT in the cold with no phone
>Prison

Same difference as far as he's concerned

>>28502398
Punch him in the face.
Or kill yourself.
Ir go AWOL.

Nothings keeping you there pussy. You're just asking permission like a bitch.

>>28502093
why dont you go practice your PT instead of bitching here? why dont you make an attempt to better yourself? nothing beats depression like a sense of achievement

but keep using it as an excuse to never try, keep bitching on the internet, i just hope when you're on your deathbed or finally ready to stick your head in that noose , in those last moments of consciousness that you realize how much of a bitch you were in your life and just maybe you could have done something about it, but its too late

>>28502454
*tips snapback*
Just b urself man :)

>>28502460
Put a trip on 13F, so we know it's you when you make shitty posts.

Thanks
-/meg/

>>28502454
I don't think he is capable of that state of mind.

He set himself up for failure because he's a suburban white kid who thought the Army was like Cod

>>28502460
dude you're in no position whatsoever to make fun of anyone. go cry some more and stay off 4chan, its not doing you any favors. did you think everyone in here would be sympathetic? what did you expect? you fucked up, deal with it

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>>28498391

>>28502485
do this 13F, so we can filter you and stop giving you attention

>>28502460
> lying about depression at MEPS
>birches out and tries to get chaptered for depression

Just stick an m14 in your mouth like pvt pyle

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Will having a higher ASVAB or DLAB score effect your chances of getting a waiver?

I broke my collarbone 4 years ago and when it healed it left a small lump where it broke. My shoulder works fine, but it seems like some of the MEPS disqualifies are pretty arbitrary.

It sucks because my life dreams are getting crushed by something that wont effect my ability to do the job in any way

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How hard is the Marine OCS selection process? What are the things that they look the most on the application? Do they take consideration about your major/GPA/resume/academic things like that?

also
>5 letters of recommendation

>>28502485
>>28502500

Not me tards

>>28502649
>major/GPA/resume/academic
yeah, a GPA <2.5 is required iirc

>>28502613
Yes and no. You're more likely to get a waiver if you're applying for a hard-to-fill job. If you're just another meat popsicle coming through the door, you're less likely to get waived.

>>28502500
>>28502664
i stand by my statement you crybaby faggot

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>>28498284
>GED scores in top 2% of nation
>ASVAB 90
>MFW not finishing senior year HS means I need to go to college to enlist in the NG

Seriously? I gotta get 15 credits in fucking basket weaving to enlist?

>>28502569
I didn't lie i only had it a little before but wasn't formally diagnosed. I didn't lie but my recruiter told me not to say anything about it. It just grew throughout basic and grew to where at this point where I'm very depressed. Enough at least for a doctor to recognize it and think I too should be sent home.

>>28502707
yep

>>28499324
he only posted once, angry spergs derailed it replying to him

>>28502707
Yes, even the National Guard has higher standards than the GED. Which is really saying something.

>>28502707
>GED scores in top 2% of nation
No, your GED scores are in the top 2% of people who've taken the GED.
C'mon mate, take a stats class, a bio class, some sort of art class, a language, and a PT class.

Boom 15 easy hours, done.

>>28500661
you can be an officer with a degree in Professional Shitting in Buckets if your gpa is decent and you can run fast

>>28502737
>>28502822

FUCK!!!

Okay, I can make this a positive. I can take Russian, and some outdoor survival classes, a land nav class, and make the rest up in trauma technician and fluff courses.
>Alaska has cool college classes.

Then I can try to operate cheeki breeki on Ivan with SOF

>>28502865
>GED % scores are calculated by graduating HS seniors as well as GED recipients

>>28502906
Turns out I'm the idiot.

>>28502922
No you're not, you just lacked some info man.

Whatever, I'll use it as a reason to take some cool classes.

>>28502889
>Trauma medic
>Land nav
>Outdoor survival
>Russian

What kind of fucking college do you live near?! Fucking westpoint?

>>28502707
literally one semester, faggot

>>28503054
I was thinking the same thing, if I had those options I wouldn't be taking fucking PChem and diff eqs

>>28502889
Why be so concerned? It's the fucking National Guard man, the most operating you do will be operating the radio in your HMMWV when you convoy to your annual training.

>>28503054

I took outdoor survival in high school and land nav in middle and elementary school. I also learned how to do basic ciphers, take finger prints, take bacteria cultures of dirt on the bottom of shoes to compare with crime scene debris, and various other skills that I had half forgotten until various threads reminded me of these facts.

>>28503071
diff eq is easy though

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>>28503078
Just pissed off I gotta pay for classes because I don't have my "You got hit over the head by the public school system" paper.
I have met HS graduates that couldn't read beyond a 6th grade level, what the hell?

>>28503054
>ALASKA
We do cool shit, not bullshit.

>>28503117
>MFW middle school PE mid terms were a thing
>MFW handed three matches "get a knee high fire in one you get an A, two a B, three a C, no fire and you fail my class"
>MFW finals was building a shelter on the beach and laying inside while that sadist dumped two 5gal buckets of water on us.
>Stay dry, it was pass/fail

Middle school was rad as fuck.

>>28500662
So you went from 11broom to garbageman with a beepstick? hokay bud, big step up.

Are there a lot of liberals in the military?I only notice conservatives in my area joining.

>>28503343
nah senpai liberals are pussies, look at 13f

Assuming I actually go through with becoming an officer, and I manage to get Infantry, what's ranger school like for officers? What does a ranger officer do that regular infantry officers don't?

>>28503451
I believe all infantry officers must attend Ranger School

I ship for Benning tomorrow, anyone else get completely freaked the fuck out the night before they leave?

>>28503493
Really? I thought ranger school was super difficult and most people flunk out, how would that work with commissioned officers?

>>28503526
Two different schools. Both called Ranger.

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Who /DQedAtMEPS/ but still lurks to dream here?

>>28503526
You recycle until you quit or pass. If you don't earn your tab, you will be considered a shitbag forever, you will be put on battalion staff and will not get a platoon or company until you pass ranger school. Basically, it's career ending for an infantry officer to be tabless, regardless of the reason that you did not make it.

>>28503962
It's the same school you cunt.

>>28503526
Ranger School is required to be an infantry officer.

Every infantry officer has a tab.

Only a small percentage of platoon sergeants and above have a Ranger tab.

That should answer your question on how hard it is for officers. I'll give you a hint:

>they get the easy peasy treatment

>>28504066
what for?

>mfw can't sleep
Well another 12 hour maintenance shift on no sleep, nothing better be fucking broke tomorrow

Will enlisting/joining/ocs any branch make me more mature or disciplined?

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>>28504155
Ingrown toenail on the most lateral phalange of my left foot

>>28504270
Isn't that something you can just fix

>>28504185

no

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>>28498284
>19D
>doing anything but full-time janitor work in garrison

go national guard kiddos. active duty is not honorable, you'll leave with at least 2 fucked up joints, and you get the benefits regardless. leadership is the worst it's been for a decade, and you will be subject an obscene amount of incomprehensible stupidity regardless of what you do in the military, and mainly, it's peacetime, so if you enlist you better be enlisting for that cushy desk or technical job that will land you $120k/yr when you get back to the civilian world.

>>28504148
Well I can't say that I'm not relieved by that, but still, it wouldn't feel right to me to lead good men who had to work harder for something than I did.

>>28504148
Most guys that go through school are e-4s and 0-1s

>>28500524
11b and go to regiment

>inb4 hurr durr im to smart for infantry

Has anyone or does anyone know a person who got shitcanned for or was otherwise discovered omitting medical shit?

I'm too sore for 27.... I have to fight over VA claims... I'm an alcoholic... Can't hear...

The price I paid for an education in a field that is getting fucked (oil).

>>28504484
Depends what it is. You can get away with minor shit like broken bones but if you have Crohn's forget it.

>>28504526
thank you for your service :^)

>>28504420
>11b and go to regiment
So, are you Infantry or retarded?

>It's okay to answer with a simple 'yes'

>>28504612
Are you retarded? 11b does go to regiment. It is called being attached to a cav unit.

>>28504639
I meant for suggesting rock washing as an actual choice.

David Bowie just passed away

>>28502719
Have you read the book starship troopers? Do so. Stick with it to the end you fucking pussy. March your ass to the top of that proverbial hill. Dropping out now will only make your depression worse. You picked it, signed the contract and committed yourself. See it to the fucking end you jackass.and maybe after you graduate you will get a sense of accomplishedment.

>>28504697
Rest In Peace
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7Bd3iJSFyE

>>28504697
Well shit, this day is off to a shitty start

>>28504697
Can we ask death to take Selena Gomez instead?

>>28498355
Tfw 5'6, sigh, I'll just shoot up my school instead and become immortal, also
>dying for israel

>>28504537
It's nothing they could figure out without checking records

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>Look up how much the credits I need will cost so I can go Guard with my GED
>MFW it will be $10,000 minimum

This shit is gonna cost ten fucking grand!?

What the blueberry shit?

>>28504934
what? just go to community college or take online classes... should cost a few grand at most

>>28504934
One semester at your local CC should not cost 10k you fuckin knob

>>28504270
now im scared, you got DQ'd for an ingrown toenail? i had one in my teenage years that i had to get removed from a doctor and haven't had one since, will that get me DQ'd?

>>28504964
>>28504958
I'm retarded, that's non-resident tuition. The only cost they advertise ($649/credit for the lowest academic level classes)

Looking for resident cost now.

>>28505015
>>28504987
>>28504964
Okay, should cost me $2,700

Fuck that had me going.

>>28505032
Seriously m8 it should even cost you that much. Engineering major for 15 credits at a top 20 engie school cost me 5k.

You should be able to do it for about 1k

>>28505060
Alaska is expensive man. I'll keep looking around though.

Question, does anybody know if I come into the Army speaking a second language they would let me continue that language as a linguist? Or would they be
>You went to college for Russian? Sweet, go learn durka

Because my step father is Russian and I could keep proficient speaking with family.

>>28500976
You're seriously considering spending years training then many more years having to work a job you have no idea about and may hate just because you can't be fucked to reach a mediocre level of fitness?

Further proof that unlocking all jobs on the aptitude test requires you to just not be a fucking retard

what do infantry officers do in combat? Do they fight or do they concern themselves completely with situational concerns like tactics?

>>28505241
Should do both.

>>28505250
Nice, that's what I was hoping I'd hear.

I just watched Generation Kill and I decided I want to be what they are. What are they? Recon marines? How do I do this (particularly as an officer)? Thanks.

>>28505446
the mos is something like 4317 it stands for water technician operative. dont pay attention to it though because they need the mos to be pretty much unknown tell a recruiter about that mos number to get into it

>>28505478
Also, for NROTC (marines) is there a chance I won't get accepted to the program or something? Once I'm there I'm confident I can prove I deserve to be there but if I can't even get in right off the bat I'm fuckiroonied. This especially worries me because I'll be going to UC Davis and there's a LOT of people in the Bay Area.

>>28505517
he's lying to you by the way

>>28505446
Walk into your local recruitment office and demand to see a recruiter

When you enter his office you walk right up to him. Maintain eye contact. You put your left hand out. He will put his right hand out. Maintain eye contact. You grab his hand with your left hand. Take your pinky finger and begin rubbing the underside of his hand with it. Maintain eye contact. Thank him for his time and hand him the form with your name on it. Turn around and leave.

Congratulations, you will receive a letter with a date to enlist within a month

>>28505612
Holy crap that would be funny as hell.

>>28505648
Have you ever considered that maybe reddit would be better for you?

>>28505733
Have you considered I'm talking about the recruiters reaction?

What's wrong with security forces?

>>28505796
Have fun staring at a flight line or checking IDs for a minimum of 8 years. After that you might get to be a bike cop on base

Hypothetically, can you join US armed forces even if you are not a citizen?
Does your army have anything like FFL?

So with the Army there's a chance as an Officer that you will be put in reserves? Is this true? That's bullshit

>>28503280
>Just pissed off I gotta pay for classes because I don't have my "You got hit over the head by the public school system" paper.
>I have met HS graduates that couldn't read beyond a 6th grade level, what the hell?

Welcome to the military, where what you can actually do doesn't matter as much as what certificates you can print out.

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>>28498391
>>28498323

Recruiters are actually right about the dress blues thing. I'd give my left nut to go to fleet week NYC again jesus fucking christ.

>19

>cops buying me drinks

>some rich motherfucker let me ride in his limo and took me and my libo buddies to dinner at some fancy ass place

>get a blowie in a bar bathroom and nut all over her face and she goes and gets another drink at the bar with said nut on her face

>finger pop a bitch at the bar

>finger pop another bitch at a bar

>bang a D list singer who made the charts in canada 10 years ago or some shit

>eat a dank ass ham sandwich on the ship

>some army SF dude buys us all drinks and tells us about how to opr8 operationally and engages in mad bantz.

>fight a canadian sailor

>have a dank ass milkshake on the ship

>watch your friend wrestle a crackhead in china town

holy fuck what more could you want in life?

>>28501073
Is it really that low for marines?

>>28506011
>fleet week in Ft Lauderdale
>get hit on by a gay dude
>not even an attractive gay dude
Total bust

>>28500965
>Navy ocs DS are marines
just end my life

Any CVRNE Army Bros here? How can I get a good placement in This? I don't want to be a gas mask passer-outer

>>28506113
CBRNe*

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>so do you have any friends?
I'm not passing this psych exam

taking ASVAB in about an hour, wish me luck meggers

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>>28506326
good luck friend

>>28506326
luck

>>28506149
I'll be your friend senpai, we've known each other for 10 years.

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What are my chances of actually going to jail if I lie about having mild lactose intolerance at MEPS(milk gives me really bad farts) and smoking week in the past
I figured it was no big deal, but on some army forum I posted on the people were fucking grilling me about it saying it would come back to bite me in the ass

>>28506149
>tfw Army's mental health screening at boot camp
>"Do you currently or have you in the past wanted to kill yourself"
>"Do you currently have a plan to kill yourself"
Who the fuck gets tripped up on these questions? Are there actually retards who answer this honestly

i leave for bootcamp tomorrow morning. (USCG)

leaving for the MEPS hotel today.

thanks for all your efforts, /meg/ - may you live long and prosper

>>28504420
>regiment "stepping stone" for sf meme
What is this 1995? Most rangers stay in batt. In fact more rangers go to delta than go to SF.

at what point do you take your oath? MEPS? before you ship to basic? at basic?

>>28507181
On top of this I was told yesterday that there's more former Rangers in CaG than former SF. This surprised me.

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>>28504283
So where can one go to learn some discipline and maturity? I feel that I am sorely lacking in those respects.

No matter what I do to improve said attributes and be more stoic.... I keep slipping up.

If the military can't drive discipline and maturity into me... what can

>>28507536
get a job

>>28505226
thnks mr skeltal

>>28507397
At MEPS when you're going to be in DEP or leave that day

I want to join the air force. Pls no bully.

>>28502719
I know everyone's shitting on you here dude, but you have to keep your head up and finish this shit. You have no choice anyway.

If you complain and sit on your ass you will regret it for the rest of your life.

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everyone knows that 11b is the way to go in the army all the other "combat" mos's want to be us

>>28507998
why does everyone want to be infantry? Is this a meme or a real thing?

>>28508017
post-enlistment rationalization mostly

>>28507998

whats the point of even being regular infantry and not SOF? it seems to me like regular infantry is just a consolation prize for SOF washouts or a place to go where you want to be an operator but know you won't make the cut for SF or rangers or whatever.

>>28507794
So join the air force faggot.

>>28507794
I'm leaving for lackland next Tuesday. Do it

>>28508038
that's like saying you cant own your own business then why work for one at all

>>28507794
looks like you're asking to get bullied by saying pls no bully

>>28508038
Yeah I'll never understand someone that WANTS to be just 11x.
Okay you want infantry, so you most likely want combat, so why don't you apply yourself and at the minimum become a Ranger?
That way you can a lot more training, PT, and seeing combat and a lot less sweeping rocks, painting rocks, and mopping rocks

>>28508017
"Everyone wants to be infantry" is a thing among enlisted in the Marines more than the Army.

But really, it's more broadly explained as "all non-combat MOS want to be combat MOS".

I know plenty of guys who fuel trucks or load bombs on planes or pave runways who wish they were combat engineers or something, but I don't know a single tanker who wishes he could trade his tank for marching. No one in the artillery wishes his M777 howitzer was an M4 carbine.

Even Cav Scouts don't want to be infantry. When Cav Scouts say they're "basically like infantry" THEY'RE COMPLAINING. They are being used as infantry in a lot of places but they'd much rather be doing the high-speed reconnaissance they're meant to be doing.

>>28508120
great explanation man

>>28508087
>Yeah I'll never understand someone that WANTS to be just 11x.

Marketing. Following the Vietnam War and through the long Cold War, morale in infantry units was low. They were thought-of, and they thought of themselves as a relic of the old way of fighting wars.

Guys who had cool, high-tech jobs like fighter pilots got much more press and even those instances where a soldier on foot was needed were covered by Special Forces or Rangers.
In a peacetime Army, being in the infantry meant you were incapable of doing literally anything else.

The Armed Forces, thus, made a concerted effort to boost the infantry's morale. Then, of course, the recent wars' non-traditional, non-battlefield-oriented nature meant that the infantry had to do a lot of actual fighting, instead of just spamming the battlefield with bodies and herding the enemy so your artillery could obliterate them.

New Thread

>>28508324
>>28508324
>>28508324

>>28503343
It's about the same as the general population, probably varies by job though. Probably more conservatives in the infantry/mechanical stuff, more liberals in things like intel and in the AF. Probably basically 50/50 or 55/45 or something in higher tier jobs like sof and people trend more toward the center as you go from easy dumb grunt shit to more advanced/technical/important jobs.

>>28503526
Ranger school and RASP are not the same thing. Ranger school is not significantly harder than any other special Army school. RASP is the hard one, because it is selection, not a school.

>>28504185
Will it? no. Can it? yes. It's up to you to make yourself more mature and disciplined. It's like "get more mature or I will put this cactus in your ass". The cactus will not make you more mature, but you will figure out a fucking way to get more mature real fast.

>>28504934
Why don't you try getting them from a community college instead of fucking University of Cash Grab then you fucking table

>>28505084
They don't give a single shit what language you speak, unless you're fluent in a middle eastern language, in which case you won't pass the security clearance to become a linguist anyway. They will assign you whatever language they want you to learn.

>>28505241
O-1s do sometimes give direct orders from the rear, but any officer of importance being in a combat zone hasn't happened since Vietnam. NCOs are the ones that fight and give tactical orders. COs are strategic level. The other anon is incorrect.

>>28505861
You can join if you have a green card but it is harder than joining as a citizen. We have no program for foreigners like the FFL.

>>28505897
Only if you're in ROTC and you fuck up. With OCS you know exactly what you are going in for.

>>28506090
Really? fuck me.

>>28506078
>ft lauderdale

theres the problem

>>28501073
you do know that the minimum marine ASVAB requirement is higher than the army right?

>>28508087
>muh mop rocks

after 4 years in the marines in a battalion full of ssgts fresh off the drill field I have never once had to do anything like you listed. Usually that shit is for people who can't show up on time or lose something.

REEEEEEEEE
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/01/07/marine-corps-ordered-make-boot-camp-coed-remove-man-from-titles.html?ESRC=dod_160108.nl

>>28506011
>>28506078
How's fleet week in Miami? That's where I'm from.

>>28510589
hello my miami friend

>>28506959
why would you lie about that? its not like milk will kill you? i dont think theyll DQ you for getting farts when you drink milk

Ask a guy who got DQed for a shy bladder anything?

>>28507560
Got one

>>28511399
Why are you not in the new thread, and what the fuck is that?