What are the most complicated gun internals?

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The G11.

>>28492759
KRAUT SPACE MAGIC

>>28492759
Anything that starts with "germany"

>>28492765
/thread

>>28492765
>>28492759
clearly all germans are just clock makers, its the only logical reason for how that could be maintain in the field.

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>>28492810
Can Germans solve a problem without overengineering everything?

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>>28492765

>>28492765
>>28492831
/thread

>>28492824
>cylinder gap causes bang
>let's just enclose the whole cylinder!
how the fuck is this over-engineering? it's literally just two rounded doors on hinges. it merely looks odd.

>>28492759
>>28492800
>>28492810
Anything German.
Some designs are simple, but most are over engineered and difficult to work on.

Lugers are a major bitch to strip down. Love them, but incredibly complicated mechanical designs. I spent about 3 hours the first night I got mine disassembling to clean. I havent shot it again since... mostly because I dont feel like going through all that, and all the parts are serial number stamped... even the tiniest pins, so dont want to risk anything breaking

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>>28493519
forgot pic

>>28492831
Wut in the fuck

>>28492831
sorry for being a newfriend to /k/
But what is that sweet thang called?

>>28493559
H&K G11

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or Italian

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>>28493519
>Love them, but incredibly complicated mechanical designs.
That's the kraut engineering mentality for you. My Colt-Sauer (read: rebadged Sauer Model 90) has about 190 parts, but functions beautifully even after I've dropped it in the dirt in the desert. Never failed me. But I don't relish the idea of stripping the fucker.

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>>28493574
ty m8, have a rare pepe

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>>28492810
have you seen their fucking engines?

>>28493604

Oh god, DOHC engines are a fucking nightmare in general.

>>28493631
>driving single overhead cam
>ever
ishygddt

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>>28493634
>not driving glorious pushrod engine

>>28493634

Fuck...

I didn't mean DOHC...

It's been a long time and I forgot the terminology...

What are those called....

Fuck.

My memory is garbage. My brain is garbage.

>>28493604
They are not that bad to work on.

I've rebuilt two of them for buddies S4's, and I am currently in the planning phases of putting an RS6 bi-turbo mill into an A4 shell I have laying around.

>>28493654
You can have it.

I have owned 2 ls1 cars, an ls2 GTO, and have to say I don't think I will spring for another pushrod V8, unless its a truck. After having some BMW N54/ N55 action in my life, I won't be going back.

>>28493493
its crazy and weird and I like it!

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>>28493674
Funny
My brother is running 900+ hp in an LS1, and I seriously doubt any existing BMW v8 could handle that.

>tfw when dirty 305 peasant race
a-at least it's a manual

>>28493661
u wot m8

>>28493594
Go back to reddit

>>28493594
i don't understand why you would try being funny when you're a newfag
you're 100% sure to fail

>>28493594
you're not off to a good start m9

1>>28493687
Poor Old Nigger Thought It was A Cadilac.

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>>28493591
How complicated can a fucking bolt gun be?

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>Bitches don't know about the Gewher 41 (M)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehLg3n9_ruM

>>28493604
Only some monster would put the timing chains on the back side of a motor and expect the wear bars not to wear out and result in the necessity of pulling a motor to do the timing chains.

>>28494738
Trust me

Anything can be complicated hell even a fucking ball point pen can be complicated if it was invented by a german!

>>28496361

As a watchmaker im used to complicated mechanism but holy shit.
190 parts for a fucking bolt gun ?
Usually the moremoving parts a mechanism has the less reliable is.

>>28493594
Get the fuck out of here with this frog posting shit and go back to reddit.

>>28493591

>190

Compared to a Mosin that has what...like 8?

Source

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>>28492831
>even the clips are space fuckery

>>28497413
>clip
I see a speed loader and a magazine

>>28497485
Speed loaders are clips.

>>28493591
>Sauer Model 90
>>28494738
>>28496903


Im just over here like, why didn't they just copy a mauser?

>>28493594
back to reddit

>>28493661
Chain drive, really only looks complex because the timing belt is replaced with a timing chain, hence the name of the picture. It is a DOHC motor though...

>>28497535
ve are not ze chinese, ve haf moved past zhat! You see, Amerikaner, there vas a problem. So ve engineered it away. vis the Sauer Modell 90, there vere 182 problems. so ve made 182 solutions to problems the damn russians just simply ignored.

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>>28492831
>Chamber the first round by winding it up.

Gets me every time.

>>28492759
korobav shit must be pretty whack 4 a slav

>>28494749
yeah i was gonna post this one.

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this

>>28493493
because the russians made an even simpler design in 1895 with the Nagant M1895

>>28497501
A speedloader is a device that you use to load a magazine faster than yiu would by hand (or a clip, which us NOT the same as a magazine)

>>28499730
That's literally what a clip is.

>>28492824
No. That's a good part of why we beat them in WWII. Their technology was generally superior, operationally, but it took such massive effort to produce compared to our designs. Ours were designed to be good-enough, and easy to mass produce. So we cold field literally five times the number of weapons per man hour, and we had more people working in our factories.

120-150 hours for an mg34 vs <23 for a garand.


ww2nation.com/firing-ww2-weapons-and-more-during-a-visit-to-the-dcc/


www.alternatewars.com/WW2/US_Production_Costs.htm

You could find better sources if you were looking out up on a desktop instead of a phone.

>>28499854
Also, that indicates we're truely fucked if we go to war with China, unless we can get our ability to run factories back up FAST.

>>28499870
Ford factories can't make tanks anymore. The technology has advanced too much.

>>28499927
They can make light trucks with roll cages though.

>>28496903
moving parts =/= parts

Someone post that picture of the AN-94 without its dustcover.

>>28492810
>how that could be maintain in the field
They couldn't.

>>28493535
As a certed Rolex tech I don't even want to fuck with that.

>>28493588
Oh... Holy fuck.

>>28496670
Lol. Cool another watchmaker. If only all money was as easy as Rolex.
Its kind of funny though first time I did a VQ37 rebuild I had to go back over everything it seemed a little too easy.

Timing chains aren't bad everything just has to be indexed proper and you can't take shortcuts.

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>>28493604

JESUS FUCK

I'll stick to my pre-cuck Swedish engineering, thanks.

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>>28499946
Warthogs when?!

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>>28499629


Not a gun, but fucking this.

The Kommandogeraet was the original Kraut Space magic.

>>28500671
What the fuck is this, an engine or a clock?

>>28500719
It's the BMW801 engines automatic governor that insures the best performance at any given altitude.

>>28500577

Fucking this. I want.

>>28500742

What this /k/amerad said.

Basically all those little manual adjustments a pilot had to do when flying contemporary aircraft were automatized in the Fw 190.

It truly was a marvelous aircraft, unlike the 109.

>>28500785
109's are better looking though, look better than the damn spitfires as well.
But I seem to be one of the few who thinks that.

>>28500867

I can see where the thought comes from.

The stencil aesthetic of Kraut designs always had been oddly compelling.

>>28493591
My gramps has one in .300 Winchester mag. If I inherit it I'm thinking about converting it to a lower caliber, but otherwise it was pure sex.

>>28494693
Pontiwac?

>>28493588
beat me to it

complicated internals aside i got to shoot the 60DS (perks of knowing people that work at NRA HQ range) and it is pretty fuckin awesome

could never see myself carrying any version of the rhino but it would make a badass HD or range toy revolver

>>28499854
1 tiger is worth 4 shermans, but the Americans always had 5.

>>28492800
Ask a German what time it is, and he'll tell you how to build a clock.

>>28493588

That really isn't that complicated. Go check out any normal revolver and it isn't much different...

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>>28493604
Dumping that into pic related would be better than sex.

>>28503179
Dude
Got anymore of those webms?
I have a MIGHTY need

>>28503201
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vDLN-nexok

go from there anon.

you're welcome

>>28500742
>>28499629
Radial/other piston engines above 300 hp are complicated as fuck in general.

Why do you think turbine engines so quickly replaced high power piston engines once they were ready.
A pure jet engine with roughly equal power of a piston engine is going to be several times simpler because it practically has just 1 moving part.

The radial of a Corsair had 52 individual spark plugs, if one of them failed you had to check them all.
Jet turbines like the turboprop and turbofan have made aviation so much simpler.

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>>28500867
Only the 109K is sexy. I need the clear canopy plus retracted rear wheel.

>>28503179
What the fuck are those teeth made of?

>>28493674
I dont think youve ever owned an LS car.

Also the BMW engine you refer to makes the same power as an ls1 with tech thats 10+ years newer and turbo to boot. What a fail.

>ITT: People who have never taken anything apart and are overreacting

>>28492759
German stuff. They're the dwarven masters of our time

>>28499808
a car transports people
oh thats literally a plane because it transports people too !!!!!11!
>fucking mongoloids

>>28504742
High Carbon Steel most likely

>>28492824
german engineers don't do redesign. a design doesn't work properly ? add shit until it does.

>>28504742
My dick when I'm at your mum's house. :^)

>>28492765
>turn the clock
>time to rock

that gun gets my dick hard in so many wierd ways my cock looks like a fucking Escher painting

>>28494749
that was just to fill some stupid unrealistic requirements though

>>28501134
You mannlet fuck

>>28504922
If we assign "car" as "stripper clip" and "airplane" as "boxed speed loader", both are still "vehicles" - "clips".