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Which branch are you enlisting/enlisted/considering?
What kind of shitting accomodation can you expect per branche/specialization?
Any tips for the lie detector at basic?
Just finished army MEPS and lied about weed and I also neglected to mention that I have committed a felony(have shoplifted) although I never got caught for it, they said at basic they would cross check all our answers with a polygraph
Should I just fess up? or stick to it?
>they said at basic they would cross check all our answers with a polygraph
Anyone shipping to lackland on the 19th with me?
Nothing is official just yet but my recruiter (Army) estimates that I'm going to basic Feb 29th.
Going for a phys Tuesday
Wrap up some other shit for my waiver
Secure the contract, go back to MEPS
Then wait for my date
these are the % to book figures for Air Force that i was talking about last thread
this is the physical test for RASP, EOD etc etc that i was talking about last thread
I hate any academics and having to pay rent and shit, just wish I could work and get free housing with my bros
Is the military right for me? Also what military jobs do you recommend?
I got a 75 on the asvab they offered in high school but I really hate any studying advanced shit so I dont think I would make the cut for complicated stuff
if they frac in your state, they're hiring. look into water transfer or flowback, or an actual frac company like haliburton or universal well services or schlumberger. some water transfer companies are HWR or SolidOak or RockWater. PPS is a flowback company. have fun
Asked in a previous thread.
I want a 68W contract but my recruiter said that getting an op40 is unlikely but I can easily get an Airborne always needs whiskeys and I could get an option 4.
How likely am I to be able to drop a packet for RASP once I get past AIT?
>choosing the be enlisted
Why? Enjoy that $33,000 a year retirement.
Yesterday my recruiter showed me the jobs that were currently available.
Showed me 11x option 40
And showed me 68w
I figure if theres current slots for 11x option 40 why wouldn't there be for 68w with the option?
>I want a 68W contract but my recruiter said that getting an op40 is unlikely but I can easily get an Airborne always needs whiskeys and I could get an option 4.
This will not guarantee you a spot in an Airborne company. All it does is guarantee you a spot in Jump School. You get your badge, but little else. You may still be assigned to hospital duty if the Army needs you there. Option 40 is not the same as Option 4.
>How likely am I to be able to drop a packet for RASP once I get past AIT
This is quite common, but you still have to get lucky and hope someone washes out of his spot and no one higher up on the priority tree wants yours.
Bottom line: as cool as being a line medic is, actually getting that position requires luck as much as anything else.
>tfw passed 6 year mark last month in army
>This will not guarantee you a spot in an Airborne company. All it does is guarantee you a spot in Jump School. You get your badge, but little else. You may still be assigned to hospital duty if the Army needs you there. Option 40 is not the same as Option 4.
Why would they do that? What's the point in giving someone their wings and then sending them to a non-airborne unit? Isn't that a giant waste of money?
shit sounds alright to me
looked it up and google and these guys are bitching about sweeping and shit and going to their room to play video games
sounds like they are living the life to me
I knew some retard who "waaah I can't lie" and when he tried to join the navy he told them about when he "cut" himself in middle school with fucking staples. They didn't let him in and made him come back to meps to talk to a therapist. And he actually went.
Been like 4 years and he still mopes about it.
68W ignore that nigger
>Why would they do that? What's the point in giving someone their wings and then sending them to a non-airborne unit? Isn't that a giant waste of money?
Needs of the Army. Sending you to Jump School means that they now have someone who can be put in an Airborne unit if need be. Of course, that doesn't mean they have the openings.
There's a lot of that in the Army: getting qualified for skills that you will never, ever use and littering your uniform with ever more useless badges.
>Has anyone here been in the Legion? What's it like? How do you get in?
I was in the LE from 2008-13. It fucking sucked. Don't do it.
Everything they sell you about the romance of the Legion is a lie.
Unless you literally have no other options, do not join the Legion.
Getting in is simplicity itself: you fly to France, go to a Legion recruiting center, of which there are many all around France, and hand them your passport. If you pass the physical tryouts, you're stuck for five years. If they don't want you, they hand you a couple of Euros for your trouble and ask you never to come back.
Unlike the US military, where they take basically anyone, the Legion only takes ~10% of people who apply. So they give you a couple of mental tests, which basically just test if can you do basic math and solve simple logic puzzles and a bunch of physical tests: the beep test, push ups, sit ups, pull ups, climb a rope.
If you're not a complete moron, if you're not a fat fuck, if you pass a drug screen and the most cursory background check and if the legion has a quota to fill, you are in.
When I finished intruction and got sent to my regiment, the 1ere REC, I thought I had finished the hard part. Instruction at Castelnaudary is defined by abuses suffered at the hands of sadistic coporals. That's tradition, I was OK with that. Once I was a Legionnaire, not just a recruit, and started working at my regiment, it got worse. The caporal-chefs are corrupt and incompetent, and nearly every caporal is part of this little mafia.
At that point, I honestly considered deserting. (Every Legionnaire has considered deserting multiple times.)
As strange as it sounds, being deployed. All soldiers hate peacetime, Legionnaires even more because the Legion (rightfully, in many cases) treats us all like criminals. All of the freedoms that normal French soldiers get, we were denied.
Going to war, however, was like waking up that first morning when you've got over a cold. All of a sudden you can breathe. At war, we had no more busywork, we were doing our jobs. It felt like being in the Legion had meaning, rather than just willingly being in jail for five years.
1. It's a shitty rifle.
2. I was in the REC. My AMX-10 had a 105mm gun. That was far more interesting.
3. You think they actually let us have our rifles? A Legionnaire with a rifle makes every caporal and sergeant incredibly nervous. They limit the amount of time we are armed as much as possible.
>so garrison life in the FFL is basically hell?
Pretty much. To be fair, you are "technically" allowed to leave every night provided you've completed your work, you get back in time for morning roll call, and you pass the inspection of the the guy on guard duty.
If that guy doesn't like you, though, don't plan on going out. He'll tell you to go back and iron your shirt or polish your boots or go shave or whatever. You have to bribe the guy, in short.
Also, you have to go out in your uniform. It makes you a magnet for stupid tourists, who want to take pictures with you as if you're the guys in front of Buckingham Palace. There was a simple rule: if you're a tourist, fuck off; if you're a tourist with kids, fuck off...stay in school, kids; if you're a pretty girl, take as many pictures as you like, sweetheart, you want to wear my kepi? Hey, there's a bar down the street, how about a few drinks...
One thing that uniform is good for is pulling tail. Wearing it instantly lets every girl in town know you're a bad boy.
Of course, there are plenty of bars that forbid Legionnaires to enter, what with our predilection for starting fights for no good reason. ("I wanted to get into a fight" is not a good reason to the police or the guys in the PM.)
Hey guys, Ive been doing a little bit of research about the Army. I looked at the Army website, and I made list of jobs that interested me.
I was hoping anybody who had any experience with these jobs could give me some info or opinions on them. I know its a mixed bag, but I'm really not sure what I want.
Right now my total PT score is 238 and getting better every week
The ASVAB I took online gave me an "87", but I dont think that was even an official practice test.
These two I was considering because I want to get the "real army experience"
>15T Black hawk mechanic
>15U Chinook mechanic
Do these require actual mechanical knowledge going in? I'm good at figuring mechanical things out, but have no professional experience working on engines.
>35F Intel Analyst
>35P Cryptologic Linguist
I speak decent Spanish and Portuguese, and very poor Russian
Tell me about the jobs posted above
Don't do these. We are entering a peacetime phase and if you go in with these jobs, you will be sweeping grass, anything to keep you occupied.
No, these do not require prior knowledge. They will teach you everything you need to know. These are actually great jobs, since you get to fly with them as crew chief.
None of the languages you mentioned are in high demand, though if you know that many languages, you probably pick up new ones more quickly than some stumpfucker who lived in an English-only-this-is-Murrica state. These are good jobs if you do well on the DLAB.
They don't give a shit. Just be honest.
There's a guy that watches you piss for your drug test.
Slip him 50 bucks and he'll piss in the cup for you.
You can pretty much smoke your entire career
Sweet another infantry bro, just to let you know though in my basic training we had a majority of people being 11C including me which meant that all the xrays would be Charlie's too.
Tell your recruiter. They can test you before you go and make sure you're clean, some offer ways to cleanse your shit cause they're desperate for numbers.
I dunno though now I know during wartime they did that.
I'm scheduled to take the DLAB next thursday. What sort of questions are on it? Do I actually have to study for it, or is it just basic stuff?
I'm also doing my MEPS physical the day before, what should I prepare for?
>What are the upsides to being a Legionnaire?
The French "green card" equivalent is nice and the prime reason for joining for a lot of the guys from third world countries.
The best is when you're out and you talk to some US veterans, usually some guys who were deployed and saw no combat. You wait until the question comes, because they always ask, in that smug way like "I served and you didn't" way.
>"So, did you serve?"
And you mention you were in the Foreign Legion.
Their eyes go wide, like you just told them you went to Hell just to see what the big deal was.
As an ex-Legionnaire, anyone who knows you were in the Legion knows to pay you proper respect, and you can trash anyone who doesn't.
>like you just told them you went to Hell just to see what the big deal was.
To be fair that's pretty much the description you just gave us.
Do they at least let you train a lot since you're jailed on post for five years?
>Combat training, not PT
>Be an NCO
Yeah, be broke as fuck. When you retire live in a trailer park town like the two in pic related.
Going in as AECF in the Navy with a pending Nuke Waiver. How tough is it to go from Enlisted to Officer? My recruiters an FC and he says he's actually waiting to see if he's eligible to apply, because he wants to he a helicopter pilot, and I was wondering how rare it is to become a pilot (specifically going from a non-aviation field to being a pilot). I also realize that if I do go Nuke I'd have little to no chance of leaving the nuclear field, but Nuclear Officer sounds good too.
>Do they at least let you train a lot since you're jailed on post for five years?
There is that. We do a fair amount of training. Different regiments do different things.
We practice tank maneuvers while the engineering regiments practice defusing mines while the infantry regiments practice...uh...marching.
I happened to be fluent in French, but that has no bearing on whether or not you can be accepted.
They want someone who can run for days and has no conscience. If you don't speak French, that's OK, they'll teach you.
Since you're in France, the total immersion in the language will ensure you learn it quickly. Plus, the corporals will beat the fuck out of you if they catch you speaking anything other than French.
So it's a penal unit?
How realistic of a goal is this? My old boss was a NG 18B during the 80's and it sounds like a dream job. Only man who could really talk weapons with me.
You remember that quote from "Full Metal Jacket"?
>the Marines does not want robots. The Marines wants killers.
The Legion is the opposite. They want robots. Men who will follow orders without ever questioning their morality and/or legality.
If they are sadists or sociopaths when they're not at war, well hey, that's the price you have to pay.
I'm not kidding. They had us so conditioned to follow orders I would have burned an orphanage to the ground if ordered. When I got out and really considered what I'd done and what I was willing to do, I felt really bad.
Sort of. The French government founded the Legion in the 19th century to collect and dispose of all sorts of undesirables. Since their founding they've been used as a cat's paw for the French. Any place that it's not politically expedient to send French troops, they send the Legion.
In a large battle, the Legion always makes the first charge; in retreat, the Legion always is the rearguard. They've taken some horrific casualties over the years, but the French don't care, because they are Legionnaires, not French.
>how the fuck did you end up there?
I was supremely bored with life. I was working an entry-level job in a field I hated. I was sick of my friends, family and girlfriend. I thought about the Marines, but I wanted to see if I could make it in the hardest, most fucked-up army on earth.
Now that I'm out, I can say I sort of miss it, but not really. Going to war was, not to put too much of a shine on it, great. Everything was always in-focus. Not being at war was fucking shit, boredom and being subject to the petty whims of sadists who would be in jail in their home countries.
I'm working now, basically in the same job that I left. I just took a vacation from being me for five years.
When I'm sitting in stupid-ass meetings at work, I really do think about going back.
Yeah, I came back with some. The pay isn't that bad. It's still within the French minimum wage, after all. Some Americans I met in Afghanistan were surprised at how much we made. But shit costs a lot more in France.
I blew far too much of it while on trips to Paris and Nice. At one point, I bought my parents plane tickets to France so they could come visit me while I was on leave.
That was a fucking mistake. I had no idea how different I looked, but my father said I looked like an Auschwitz survivor. My mother put on a brace face. I entered the legion 183cm and 77kg. (Pretty thin.) When they saw me next, I was 68kg and that was up from the 62kg I was coming out of instruction. I looked like a skeleton to them. My head was shaved, I'd received a broken nose and I got "Legio Patria Nostra" and "Nec Pluribus Impar" tattooed on my arms.
OK, here's a funny one. Probably the funniest I have.
My squadron was deployed to Afghanistan and we were on ops. We were set to link up with a platoon of US Marines. We were late getting there, and the Marines arrived ahead of us. When we got there, they were acting like we were enemy forces, screaming at us to drop our weapons and stand down.
In our tank they all looked at me because I'm American, so I know how to rectify this situation, so I stand up in the tank's cupola and start screaming profanities at them.
>What the fuck are you numbnuts doing?! Don't you point that fucking rifle at me, you dumb motherfucker! You think the Taliban has fucking tanks? Who the fuck is in charge of this circlejerk?!
Some poor schmuck lieutenant shows up, face full of zits. Kid's clearly just out of OCS or something. He doesn't know our rank insignia. He doesn't know shit. He assumes because I'm screaming at everyone I must be in charge. He starts babbling apologies. Then I introduce myself as a corporal. My guys are laughing, then the Marines start laughing. Everyone's pissing themselves. The lieutenant doesn't know what the fuck is going on until I apologize to him and salute him.
goddamn please tell me you have more.
I was just a dumbass e2 in us army.
My only funny stories consist of settign the barracks on fire during basic and gettign away with it, then caving in the ceiling and gettign away with it again.
>My only funny stories consist of settign the barracks on fire during basic and gettign away with it, then caving in the ceiling and gettign away with it again.
fucking kek man
>It sounds like you don't really regret joining the legion
That one's complicated.
It did suck. Lord, did it suck. That broken nose I got was issued to me by a corporal because I corrected him. I shouldn't have done that, but he was, in fact, objectively wrong. I know he was wrong because he hit me with a wrench instead of just slapping me.
On the other hand, stories.
Part of me thinks I could have received an equivalent experience in the Marines, and I'd have the benefit of receiving veteran's benefits as well. As it is, I don't get shit.
When I look at my paycheck, I also realize that I retarded my own career by a half-decade. I'm doing entry-level shit while other people my age are well into their careers.
It really depends on my mood as to whether I regret it or just write it off as being a dumbass.
I'd probably know if I regretted it if I really had a good answer for myself when asked, "so why did you join?". I was bored doesn't quite cover all of it.
stole an entire mre and proceeded to hide it in the ceiling in one part where the drills always forgot to look.
Then while on firegaurd i took that shit down and began to cook it when drill came to fuck our shit up.
while we are in formation i see the barracks with smoke coming out, I charge back in like a retard screaming "I FORGOT TO WEAR SOCKS" grab the shit out of the roof and dumb the water out then proceed to hide it again.
I got away with them not noticing the smoke but drill heard me and called me the dumbest goddamn person alive and smoked me til i thought i would die.
Later it took 3 fellow battles to beat my ass but it was worth it.
You know you could always try out some PMC work if it is something you really miss.
FFL sounds what the Marines should be nowadays
So we link up the Marines. Lieutenant Noxema expects that I'm to be his liaison, because I speak English. Naw. We gave him this enormous black Legionnaire, whom we called Booba, after this French rapper. This guy was from Senegal. He was fucking enormous and black as coal. At high noon, his face was so black all you could see was his eyes and his teeth. (He was actually a total softie, just the nicest guy ever. Never had a cent to spend because he sent it all to his mother.)
Needless to say, the Marines were all terrified of him, even the black Marines, because he didn't speak English, so he didn't say anything.
When we got back to camp a few days later, again, our sides were obliterated. I don't know how Booba kept a straight face the whole time. We could always retreat back into our tanks to laugh.
Reading up on the Legion now
God damn, i know that it's full of criminals and all around cunts like every military, but it's just so much more damn appealing than joining the ADF like i was planning on doing.
I understand this fellows frustrations about all the fucking choir boys than want to tell their recruiter they smoked weed. YOUR RECRUITER DOESNT CARE
rule of thumb
if t doesnt affect your fitness and isnt life threatening, dont tell them
Yeah, listen to >>28490709
I'm telling funny stories. No one needs to be depressed.
I can tell you about going through instruction on about 1000 calories per day. (Another bizarre Legion tradition.) The corporals walk around the dining room and will stop you and point at something on your plate. If you can't identify it in French, they will take it and eat it in front of you.
I can tell you about developing a very sanguine attitude toward the idea of personal property, because the Legion is fucking full of thieves. I had my wallet stolen before I even signed my Legion contract.
I can tell you about La Mafia Russe, which is all the Russian recruits and how the received absurdly preferential treatment from the Russian corporals. Just beyond the pale. Similarly, I can tell you about how stone-hard the Polish Legionnaires are because Russians despise Poles and did everything they could to make the Polish recruits desert or kill themselves.
It's something i might have to consider, actually.
Certainly seems more appealing than trying to be infantry in a country that hasn't deployed armor since Vietnam.
We're there many Aussies in the Legion?
There used to be way more Australians and Brits in the Legion, back in the 90's and before.
Since the fall of the Soviet Union, they've been driven out by Eastern Bloc guys.
As I understand, most of the Commonwealth guys go towards the REP. I can remember four Aussies in my regiment, but one of them may have been from New Zealand. There are probably more.
The thing to remember is that there's an unspoken agreement that no one talks about one another's past, including where they're from. The guy who speaks only Chinese? He might be from Vancouver. We don't ask, we don't know, we don't want to know.
>Big and dumb
>Causes everyone else problems
>Fat ass is soooo huuuungry he has to sneak meals and almost fucks up a building
Nevermind, they need to put a bullet in the back of your head
>The guy who speaks only Chinese? He might be from Vancouver.
Ivan and Vlad dominate the legion then, eh?
Ah well, even though i do understand the warnings you're putting out, i just meant it might be something to think about.
It actually sounds like there's a legitimate esprit de corps to it compared to other modern Army's and somehow i just find that pretty fucking appealing.
>did best at the range
>in best group at pt
>was the fucking idiot who always volunteered to be a battle buddy
>later at my unit continued helping out when we were getting fucked
you probably didnt even fucking serve.
>there's a legitimate esprit de corps
That, I can tell you for certain, does not exist. In large part, we all hate one another. The only time we stick up for one another is when we're deployed. (When we Legionnaires are all reminded how fucking low on the totem pole we really are.)
He's saying the exact opposite of that
>Abuse and corruption par the course for every officer
>Thevery and shit by fellow soldiers
>More abuse, especially if they're in the wrong
>Drop you like a bad habit at the end.
Well, thats disappointing
so i should stick with the Australian Defense Force then?
sweeping rocks and dusting sand for the next few years or so
You no longer wear your uniform going out. Ever since the whole terrorists targeting soldiers thing. Now you actually aren't ALLOWED to wear it out, and have to wear civvie clothes.
>tfw you are 11 months away from enlisting in the ADF
>tfw nearly one year till kapooka
>tfw you are gonna love the military whether or not it's "fun"
try the national guard and you might see some of this pretty soon
What if you try out for SOF and dont make it?
Do you get to re pick your MOS?
Im a 250 on the APFT currently and climbing up a little bit each week
But if I didnt get SF Im worried id get dumped in the 11B septic tank, if im not "operating" Id rather at least learn a trade
I'm not sf man I just work with them
but if you wash out of 18x you usually stay 11b and go to Bragg or some airborne infantry unit. If you go to selection as whatever mos you are and wash out you stay that mos.
you wouldnt just be an 11B.
you'd be sent to the 82nd.
doesnt that sound like fun :D
fort bragg and all the fuck fuck games you can handle
also you'll be able to look across the parking lot and see what all those cool green beret fellas are doing.
and it'll probably make you want to kill yourself, knowing that they made it. and that could be you, while you wash rocks and mop concrete.
but you'll be airborne! boy howdy you're better than everyone else, because your life sucks harder than anyone else.
god writing this made me want to cut my balls off.
nah i never went that route.
i mentioned this earlier in the thread but my best friend, we'll call him john, just finished freefall after getting his long tab. he told me all about it, aside from the confidential stuff he couldn't.
when i was active i heard about bragg all the fucking time. other best friend of mine was 11b in the 172nd when they went to shenaniganistan for the second time. he heard all about that shit.
a lot of the time john said that shit kept him going above all else; that he didnt want to be in fucking bragg with all the tryhard 18X washouts.
i don't blame him.
he was never not going to make it though. kid was born to be SF.
>Had huge varicocele (lump) on my left ball
>didnt cause pain but would stop me from joining
>got varicocele surgery a month ago so I could enlist
>it shrunk but is still there
Hold me bros
The military was literally my only option
nah bro never heard any of those thing, been two months without a haircut as well
I was in the same boat got the surgery before I shipped so I didn't need a waiver. Damn that shit hurts.
Fuck man, that scares me
>Get hurt, not something entirely in your control
>Whelp, better fuck off and wash rocks, have fun.
I think that's why I'd rather go in as another MOS and then try for SOF
Yeah it's pretty important you land nav in the complete darkness in the shitty Fort Bragg terrain with no lights while moving. Even people in the military have trouble with land nav and the little bit of land nav you do get in basic is not enough.
Selection's not going any where.
This pisses me off more than anything else I hear.
>Having a fallback/backup plan/safety net is for pussies if you plan for a less than optimal outcome you'll fail automatically
Yeah! Lets all be gung ho retards and fuck plan B, we don't need no stinking backup that's pussy talk! Then when shit goes south, because shit has a tendency to happen, we can end up totally fucked like retards with our thumbs up our asses.
>But it's okay because Marky Mark will make a movie covering that stupidity up
What the fuck is up with this attitude? What if you fuck up an ankle during land nav? Some shit is not in your control.
Jesus christ dude, seriously?
>If you call it something else it's not failing
Guess what, you go 18x and break your ankle in a root hole on night land nav, you FAILED. Now, do you want to recover in a worth a shit MOS? Or wash rocks in a cast?
>what they want to hear.
SF wants people that leap without thinking and turn potential options into all or nothing fights to the death?
I know that you're fucked if you don't keep the "I'm GOING to make it" mindset once in selection, but purposefully making a washout more career destroying before even getting in is pants on head retarded
Just to be clear, I agree with totally ignoring the possibility of failure once you've actually started selection, you're there and the only option is to pass at the top of the class.
But why set yourself up for failure if something goes wrong?
I never said don't have a backup, you just need to act like the backup is a distant thought that you don't even consider failure as a possibility.
In other words, I'm pretty sure we're saying the same thing basically.
Agreed, we were reading two paragraphs on the same page and got hung up on semantics.
>Build a failure proof plan
>Have a safety net incase god fucks you
>Commit 100% and shoot to not just pass but be 1st place at everything
Even fresh faced Ranger Babies don't get put on shit details like that. If you think some E-6 in Group is out there vacuuming the parking lot, you're fucktarded.
God damn I love that term.
Hey, I know it's not your zone, but can you answer >>28492566 and do you think someone should go in 18x or as a relevant MOS then enter for selection?
You probably have no shoulder strength.
Stop trying to do pullups. Instead, do reverse pullups. Use something to stand on or else jump up to meet the pullup bar and get as high as you can. Ideally, you should be at the 'top' of the pullup. Then, slowly lower yourself down over the span of 10-15 seconds. You're doing just the 'down' part of the pullups.
Do 3 sets of 10 every couple days and soon you'll be able to do pullups.
wheres /fit/ guy when you need him...
As 48G said, reverse pull ups, and try just having the bar low and pull up into it.
i used that for when i was tryint o work on my pushup endurance
it's basically easy pussy pull ups, but it helps.
also, focus on some cardio.
it helps to lift shit but it means fuck all if you cant run with said shit.
Actually running is going well, I took up couch to 5k on the advice of someone on here. My track got turned into an ice rink for speed skating by the city so I strap on ice cleats and run the park on the grass.
There is a hill in my run too, so every four minutes I charge up a hill like I'm gonna kill someone at the top.
It's the best part of the run, makes the rest feel easier, like I'm just running around TO that hill, gives the run purpose.
Might need to incorporate a war cry into the hill charge
Hey /k/, i was thinking about going 18x or something SOF related
I can run nonstop for about 4 miles, easily push out 100 pushups in just under 3 min, knock out those situps easy, and can do pull ups for hours.
only thing is im a little bit dumb, as in i failed nearly every class in highschool.
What should i do?
No, I have dealt with a few people that begged for my help with getting above a 25 on the AFQT and every time they're
>Built like a shit brick house
>Wanted to be Rangers/SEALS/SF/MARSOC
>Couldn't comprehend that maybe, just fucking maybe, it's time to open a book
Waste of time and oxygen, just enlist 11b and save everyone the time.
Are you >>28493920 ?
If you score 25 you are probably (And I mean this in a literal medical way, not a snarky insulting way) mentally retarded. You'll do fine, aim for an 80's-90's score and do some reading and practice tests.
If you'd "Rather blow shit up" than read a book or study you're gonna be 'stupid is as stupid does' for ever.
If you want to be in the high speed operators group 18x you're gonna need to get a high GT score and be able to process and think fast. Go study for the ASVAB, even if you have a decent score right now. And you need to start reading books.
Here, start with this one
That will serve you better than you can imagine.
Yeah man, the ASVAB is basic as shit. What you need to do is go to your library and read the practice and study guide books (They are there, trust me) then do the practice test online. When you get every question right on the practice test consistently go take the real one.
If you actually study you'll do great.
Shit man, are you me from the future?
>huge left-ball lump
>go to Meps
>doc says I should get surgery, but since he can still push it back up inside he's allowed to pass me
>Indian dude fondled my balls for ten minutes
We sit around in garrison and sometimes moved to bases around the world, like paupa new guena or east timor.
War isnt happening for a while, and the recruiters have weird ideas about what the military culture actually is.
also, combat roles open to women 2016.
yayyyy..... the future navy slags are now future Army slags.
The experience is pretty dependent on what job you want to go for.
what were you thinking of doing?
It's a bit of a paradox that.
>People joining for war (Usually) were galvanized by a war they witnessed their country participate in.
>They therefore tend to join at the end of this war (Unless it goes on for a decade or so like WOT), and are thrill seekers trapped in a peacetime military.
On the other hand
>People looking to join the military for an easy government job with benefits and expecting to not have to actually work choose to do so after an extended peace, feeling safe in the lack of activity
>They usually wait a little too long and once they have properly started their career the country is catapulted into a conflict in which the slacker seeking to avoid war is now just experienced enough to be required at the front.
So it's irony, by seeking war your timing usually falls into peace and by seeking peace and an easy ride you tend to join just in time for war.
>Both of these being from the perspective of a young individual making early life decisions and unable to join at the onset or end of a war immediately due to age or environmental restrictions.
And so we have gun-ho rock washers on one side, and pencil pushing slackers getting shot and captured with jammed dirty rifles on the other.
hope you like bushmasters and the Northern Territory, son.
Also, if you make it to Armoured officer, you wont have to worry about being deployed into the desert, since we havent deployed anything but bushmasters and the odd aslav or 2 since Vietnam.
See; mothballed Leopard tanks
You will be trained in the operation and use of your vehicle, and the routine maintanence of said vehicle.
you also get to drive it around a field a few times for training exercises.
When you go to the recruiters, dont mention the drinking or the PT
Be the person everyone makes friends with to them, but dont be the typical aussie "G'day m8, strut,h shripm on the barbie", but say you have a healthy social life and all that jazz.
Recruiters are fucking weird, psyche evaluators even moreso.
but once you get in, it'll feel just like home.
Pretty much anyone can drop a SF packet at any time. 18X grad rates are pretty good, but if people aren't sure that they want SF I usually tell them to get a solid MOS they want and drop a packet later.
>TFW 25B in AIT right now
Only thing Im pretty stuck on is to go Airbourne or not. I know you have limited stations and I want to go OCONUS for most of my duty stations and travel and what not. Is it worth it? Also going to try to commission later on to 255N WO or 25A
The singing is what the French do to keep time when marching, just like cadence calls in the US. All French units do it. Each regiment, each company all have their own signature songs.
In the Legion, the songs (chants, we call them) also are a great way to learn the language, which most Legionnaires desperately need. In the old days, they were also a primary source of entertainment.
Learning them can be pretty stressful because, if you don't learn them quickly enough, you're getting smacked. Don't think that you can just mumble and hum your way through them. They make you sing them solo during instruction.
The SF Q course and selection is rough dude.
It doesn't matter if you can run an ironman.
They teach you stuff extremely fast.
Because most of your peers are already in the military and already know everything.
So a refresher for everyone around you, is the first time you're learning about stuff.
Not a great idea.
A lot of people who already know this shit wash out of selection and the Q course.
People always disregard the classroom shit and think it's all just one giant PT test.
11b/74D1P here with two tours in Iraq here. Garrison life is shit don't enlist in combat arms now, in 2010 Iraq 82nd airborne was forcing mother fuckers into morning formation PT and brought garrison life to deployment. Thank god I was sent up to the Syrian border during my 2nd deployment
Is these really all that is needed to get into the army?
I mean I can do all these things pretty easily right now, but the videos I watch of basic training show them doing things a lot more difficult than this.
>People always disregard the classroom shit and think it's all just one giant PT test.
Of course. The PT is something you can work on and it becomes an attainable goal. Having the intelligence and the personality type of an ideal member of the Special Forces/Rangers/SEALs/CCTs/whatever is nothing you can change. You're either smart and stable enough, or you aren't.
What are the things that will make me difficult on getting a TS clearance as an officer? I have dual-citizenship (which I can just remove it if asked)
Anyone can participate. Scholarships involve a mild selection process. You take a military science minor, do PT in the mornings, and go to summer camp.
In order to become a ranger, you would need to finish high enough in your class to be able to select both active duty and infantry. You'll go to ranger school possibly during the summer between your junior and senior year or more likely after. Getting into regiment is the trickier part, and is almost entirely luck.
Financial problems, divided loyalties (like dual citizenship), and foreign relations/family/friends/investments/etc.
Side note: Few officers get a TS until later in their career. The free TS for everyone ship has sailed and will not come back.
The left side is yes, what you need to do for entry, and the right side is your minimums on a normal PT test.
You do however need to complete the training given to you at BCT. That means not falling out of longer runs at slower paces, completing a ruckmarch, and being able to function on field problems. Things like functioning in the field are not explicitly grading your physical fitness, but if you are so unfit that you can't perform combat drills, complete an obstacle course, or shoot a rifle after a run, you're going to fail BCT and get recycled over and over until you make it through or get kicked out of the military for failure to adapt.
When you get to a unit, that minimum score is indeed the "Army minimum" and is a score of 180 points on your physical test. If you are in anything resembling a combat unit you will be expected to score at least in the mid-200s. If you are scraping by with a 180, you will guaranteed get stuck in the fatbody platoon doing extra shitty PT until you're better.
Being shit at PT will also affect your selection to places like WLC, because no unit wants to send a guy who is "just meeting the standard" to a school. It would be embarrassing for them to have you fail a PT test administered by WLC. Not going to WLC is a dead halt for your promotion upwards.
PT points also directly count as promotion points, and there are many MOS where it's impossible to get promoted without a high PT score simply because the cut off for promotions is high.
Long story short: Being a shitbag generally works up until SPC in the Army.
250+ is a good standard for everyone all of the time. Much below that and you won't be well thought of regardless of your rank.
If you're enlisting as an E-4 you're probably making a mistake.
Don't join the military. I'm in AIT wanting to go home. I have the option to be medically discharged for depression but the commander is an asshole and won't start the chaptering paperwork until my AIT class graduates in two months. Then he said it will take another 2-3 months to get me out of here. Fuckin asshole
So does that make 18x harder than just entering under another MOS and applying for SF after two years?
I know for a fact I want to be 18b, but I don't want to screw myself trying to take shortcuts.
Actually bitch I am depressed that's what the doctor told me and that's why I am able to to be chaptered. The problem is I would have to wait up to 4-5 months to finally go home cause my company is full of assholes in charge. It's like they are doing it as a personal punishment. Fuckers
Cause I don't want to be here for 8 more weeks. I hate doing PT in the mornings, I know I'm gunna fail the PT test and get my phone taken away. The training they told us about seems really hard. I just can't do it, not only cause I don't want to do it but because I'm clinically depressed and have social anxiety.
Still not very reassuring. I mean I can get chaptered but its gunna take months cause they are douchebags in this battery. I dunno if I should just set up myself to be really comfy with WiFi and ps4/tv for the long-run. I won't be training for the next two months if chose to get chaptered.
I've already been through MEPS, got a 92 on the ASVAB, already signed my contract with the Corps, etc.
But just how much poon will I get as a Marine?
I'm joining because it's something I've always wanted to do, the women are secondary to me, but is there a chance I'll do my 4+ years active duty and come out a virgin?