>>28479510 This guy is right. Glock is clearly doing something right otherwise Springfield, Smith and Wesson and Ruger wouldn't have spent millions of R&D dollars (or in springfield's case, buy the HS2000) to make guns specifically designed to "beat" Glock. Anyone who says anything other than "they're not my taste but they're reliable" is lying to themselves and to you
>>28479350 They're arguably the best value and most reliable you can get. They're accurate too.
>>28479557 Not him and really nothing however: 1. For some reason I get a little trigger bite on the gen 4. No clue why it would be any different and its' slight. 2. When the gen 4 first came out the springs were a tiny big too stiff in the midsize guns like the Glock 23. Glock had gone to a dual captive spring on those like what they had always used on their subcompact guns and calibrated them for full power carry loads. So people would shoot light range loads in them and they'd jam. Glock fixed it by releasing a slightly lighter recoil spring.
4 things to a gun being good: 1. Reliability, no gun is more reliable than a Glock. 2. Accuracy, Glocks have good theoretical accuracy but you have to understand the difference between theoretical accuracy and real world accuracy. Theoretical accuracy is the gun clamped in a bench rest. Glock is as good as more expensive guns. I want to say, but may be wrong, that it's like a 4" spread at 50 yards, same as an HK. However, this does not account for quality of trigger, quality of sights, grip angle, recoil management or anything relating to how the user is actually able to interact with the gun. Many people feel that a single action trigger on a more vertical grip angle allow them to shoot more accurately. I put a 3.5lb connector in my Glock and smoothed up the internals a bit. It shoots well for me. 3. Ease of ownership, by that I mean availability of part and holsters and mags. No gun compares to Glock on this front purely do to Glocks massive market share. I think value should also be a part of this. 4. Service life, basically, being able to shoot a bunch of rounds through the gun without signs of it wearing out. Glocks polygonal rifling and hard treatments hold up very well to extended use and the steel inside a slightly flexible polymer frame lasts for like fucking ever.
>>28481399 Original owner of a 1999 civic here. Bought it when I was 17 with a $4000 down payment I saved up mowing lawns and working at kmart.
I'm 33 now, still drive the same car. Nearly 200,000 miles. Not 1 mechanical failure other than a computer that bugged out at about 70,000 miles and made the car keep stalling at idle. Took it to the dealership and they swapped in a new one on the same day free of charge, still under warranty.
The only other problem is that I sometimes have to jiggle the switch on the ceiling dome light to get it to turn on.
My friends give me shit for driving the same car I had in high school as a 33 year old, but at this point I'm attached to it. Driven it to both the east and west coast on road trips. Been camping in the rocky mountains with it.
It may not be cool, but it is still 100% dead fucking reliable and has never let me down.
I sold my Glock 17, nothing wrong with it, it just... Got no soul, I don't smile when I look at it. It's a well functioning appliance. Also the plastic lower front end curved upwards and it bugs me to no end.
>not ambidextrous >no front slide serrations >one notched rail >no thumb safety for safe holstering >overpriced compared to the competition >many have catastrophically failed yet fanbois continue to praise its "perfection"
>>28481560 It's 2016, why don't they just have that one simple fucking option? I know 4 people that won't buy glocks because they don't have one, and 4,000 retards who'll play elitist online because they think not having one makes them a manly operator.
>>28481929 The angle is interesting, coming from 1911s and Sig P series my Glock 17 did point high for me. I later learned the idea was it forced you to lock your wrist down so the slide recoiled in line with your forearm instead of over it.
Since then it has actually become my favorite handgun to shoot. Kind of funny that I'd rather take the $500 tupperware out instead of the more expensive guns.
>>28479350 Before you can decide weather or not a glock is for you, you have to ask yourself a question.
>Am I a limp wristed libreal, woman, cock guzzling fagot, or all of the above?
If so, the glock is your gun. Pic related.
In all seriousness get a sig. They make their guns out of metal, not shitty plastic like glock. The glock watches in envy as sig fucks his wife. Sigs are much more reliable and will kill around 2 times the amount of people with the same amount of clips, scientifically proven in Germany.
Glawks is good. The Honda Civic of guns. But there's other good options for the same price out there. Any polymer/striker pistol from a reputable manufaturer will be just as good as a glock. More of a preference thing. I hate people that buy glock just cause its a glock and cause they cant name any other guns. Its the gun that everyone and their mother knows about.
>>28479590 I wasn't a fan of glocks until I borrowed my dad's 10mm. It just feels right. I'm also interested in the G41 which i believe is the longer barrel possibly ported(?) If anyone has any info on that one.
>>28479350 worst part about a Glock is that they have unique ergonomics and once you get used to holding, aiming, and shooting it Glock is pretty much all you'll ever shoot again. If you already have other handguns that you like to shoot then I don't recommend a Glock. If you want to get a Glock as a first handgun but plan on buying others then I still don't recommend the Glock. If you wanna get a Glock and plan on committing to that specific platform forever then yes, get a Glock >"Glocks don't jam" Owned one. It jammed. Hated that fucking thing. Worked well enough and to its credit the pistol was very accurate but their ad of "Glock: Perfection" is really a huge stretch. They're a good utilitarian gun. Not worth buying a new one but if you find a used one at a good price then by all means get it.
>>28479638 >very picky Wrong. The only single kind of ammo you might have problems with is hard cast 10mm. Even then, it takes hundreds of rounds and trips to the range without cleaning to cause shavings to damage the rifling. My 20 Gen 4 and Gen 3 both eat 10mm of all makes all day long without so much as the slightest problem.
>>28479350 In the current year, Glocks are a very average gun with a very expansive aftermarket. Something that will forever be this guns saving grace. Every other reputable maker now has a gun on par with them. The VP9 is the next step for pistols. I hope glock incorporates the slide ears and grip panels.
>>28479557 They fucked up the initial release. Tactical autists aren't ready to go to gen 4
>>28479590 >The 10mm, .357Sig are special snowflakes and you'd do better showing your uniqueness with other brands of guns in these calibers 357sig are for those who touch children The 10mm glocks are the best 10mm out there unless you're ready to drop $1500+ on a 1911.
Glocks number one thing they did right is selling that motherfucker to every police agency possible. Fuck if the normal cop knows what it does besides go bang and that it holds more rounds than his revolver,they just knew that they were getting one. On a departmental level they were getting a killer deal to switch over from their old guns. Huge user base all with a fairly distinctive boxy shape and it became the go to gun for millions
>>28481399 I'm all grown up now and on my third brand new car purchase. However, in college I had a 1990 civic hatchback. To this day I think that was the best engineered, built and fun to own car that I've ever had. Four new tires installed cost me $128 thanks to the 13" wheels. The four speed manual transmission was godlike. I learned to drive a manual in that car and never tore it up. I got my first blowjob in that, went camping with that car, picked my drunkfriends up in that car, got good mileage on that car and the whole time it never failed, never faltered and never disappointed me. The oil was easy to change, the plugs were easy to change, as we're the wires, preventative maintenance was easy, cheap and fun. It didn't have much power but felt great at its top speed of 110mph which I did from time to time. I can't speak for all civics but the 1990 hatch is a damn good car.
>>28479374 What's wrong with any of them? They all function flawlessly. They had fat grips and are heavy because they have so many rounds, but they are great guns. I carried a gen 3 Glock 23 for about 10 years.
Few improvememts I'd make. Steel three dot sights, sf/gen iv being stock grip size, three magazines for all gens, full picatanny rail like on the limited G21 release, steel guide rod, hijack the alpha wolf barrel design. With some improvements Glock could shit all over the competition and take back some of the LEO ontracts. Problem would be keeping simikar price point with added development cost. I like them but also enjoy the old Ruger P series
I have a glock 23 and a 30 they take getting used to, but they are my carry guns, which means I trust my life to them. also the 23 is a fucking tack driver
>>28484399 and when cops use your gun, it's free advertising all over the country. wannabe coperators buy whatever LEO's use >>28482373 >owned one. it jammed I'm not a glock fanboy, but one gun does not the entire product line represent >>28482125 >posts sicario screen >tells people to buy a SIG enjoy your rust, if we're having a meme battle otherwise, enjoy your $900 purchase of a high bore axis substandard mag capacity heavy gun
>>28479668 You're right about then being reliable but not everyone's taste (for numerous reasons), but what glock does right is marketing and availability. Everyone has heard the name glock, so the other manufacturers make a "glock killer". This isn't because glock is the gold standard, although they are just fine handguns, this is because they're widely known.
Glocks are great if you like the triggers and grip angle. My dad hates glocks for their triggers and can't shoot my 34 well because of it. Give him a revolver with a smooth trigger and he can drive tacks.
>>28485616 I want it in 9mm. I sold all the rest of them to fund moving, and I'd like to have at least 1 gun in that caliber. I looked into conversions and shit, and couldn't find any 6" kits. Plus I have read that the lone wolf slides are kind of garbage so a custom longslide is out. I figure I can be patient until one pops up.
>>28479590 I agree with most of what you said, but what's wrong with the g43? I don't own one but I don't really see what could be bad about it except fewer rounds. It even looks great because no finger grooves.
>>28479590 The G21/30s are great .45 guns. The G20 is the best gun in 10mm, and if you need that its a great gun. The single stacks are great for people who like to carry guns and have sex with girls instead of their hand or dragon dildos.
Every gun they do is about ok in its class. Adequitely priced. Form matches function. quite reliable. Theyve just been doing the same thing so damn long, when striker fire polymer frame pistols became the #1 style, Glock is what every thing else similar is compared to.
>>28486270 its a single stack glock. so it remove ammo capacity for more comfortable grip. except its a subcompact self defense/CC gun where putting max rounds on target quickly is the name of the game i.e. retarded.
if your willing to spend $5-600 on a full size gun go with a CZ 75-B if your going for a CCW ie carried often and scene/shot rarely then glock is fine. it doesn't matter if its an ugly box when its concealed all of the time.
I'm the guy you replied to, but yeah I have never liked shooting them, and I've shot a bunch of their models. I'd consider G26 for my gf, or a g17 for a "a pistol for whomever happens to need one" kind of deal.
I think the gf prefers the P2000sk though, which is basically HK's version of the g26
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