Im getting a Yugo M57 for my birthday this year, and I was wondering if its possible to drop in convert the M57 or TTC frame to 9mm if I have the norinco 9mm barrel, spring, slide and mags?
Why, the tok bullet is best bullet.
But i think the m57 parts are diffrent enough to not allow that to work, if you dont do rapid fire it wont hurt to try it
The worst that will happen is fte or some other jam.
Just make sure before you pull the trigger the bullet is fully seated in the barrel.
Do it with 1 round to start in mag
Im doing my research tonight before purchasing. Im actually considering the TTC instead because the M57 isnt capable of accepting any of the aftermarket shit for the TTC and TT33.
>norinco 9mm barrel, spring, slide and mags?
It'll work with everything but the mags; M57 grip frame is longer and so are mags, so regular TT mags aren't long enough to lock in. You can load 9x19 in 7.62x25 mags; just make sure each round is seated at the front of the magazine rather than the back.
Y'know they make a 9mm version of the M57, right? The M70A.
What are you doing?
Why would you do this?
Why not just buy the M70A if you want a Tokarev in 9mm?
Why would you put filthy pig-capitalist aftermarket shit on glorious Tokarev pistol?
So many questions, anon.
Its not that I want a new production M57 in 9mm, I just was wondering if any tokarev owners think it would work.
Im probably getting the TTC anyways, for the price difference on JG Sales I can get have 3 mags instead of 2.
JG Sales has the TTC at $220 and the M57 at $250 - If anyone knows of one lower please let me know.
Just found the TTC at Southern Ohio Guns for $199.95
Literally just get the m70a if you're just going to convert it to 9mm it wil save you on parts and this stupid fucking thread. I love toks too your ruining my appreciation for them
Wow, you're a jackass.
>you want to ruin a good Tok der der der
Its called multi caliber capability - kind of a big thing nowadays. I'd keep the 7.62x25 but also want to be able to drop in the 9mm guts for shitzengiggles.
You're like "why get a glock 27 if you want 9mm just get a G26" when in reality a G27 can be easily modded to take a 9mm or 357sig barrel and mags. modu-fuckin-larity.
Image for attention, collected most of these pics from a Tok-Porn thread a few months back.
Might as well make this a general Tok pic dump as well.
i dont know if they have a name but they sometimes come on the norinco 213. i know bc i had to buy a second set. pic taken just now
I never said it will ruin the gun, just my appreciation for the gun. If you want to aftermarket the shit out of it go right ahead. But just know that the toks have almost no aftermarket parts.
Oh, hey, that's my Tok.
I'd be all over that, but I'm positive the double-stack Tok was simply a limited test run back in the '40s or '50s.
M88A and Norinco 213 owner here
the 213 takes standard TT-33 mags, however there is a spacer in the mag, the follower has been modified and the spring is different, capacity is 8 rounds
the M88A had a spacer in frame and the mags aren't as wide, mags are 8 rounds
in an effort to find more mags, the M70A mags will fit and work with the M88A, 9 rounds capacity.
TTC mags are 8 rounds, so either of the Zastava mags will work
It doesn't exist, sadly. It's a prop from the movie Kingsman. In-canon, it was 12ga, I think, but that'd be a bit much. Maybe 20ga would be fine. I read they were pretty much functional, too.
Not much of a Tok aftermarket, either. There's those compensators, the Marschel grips, and either a laser or laser-light combo by Ramlite. Holsters are provided by few companies. I'll make a thread on the Falco one I ordered, though it won't be leaving the factory till February.
>Tfw Zastavas imported into Canada normally lack the safety
Why. I want one with a proper safety, since it should fit my shoulder holster.
Since I already bought a dozen m70a mags before I got the 213, I didn't see the logic in buying a bunch of tok mags for $20-30 each, then have to find a spacer and modify the spring and follower
instead I made a spacer for the Norinco to use the slimmer mags (shiny silver part)
If I wanted the 213 to shoot 7.62x25 all i'd really need are standard tok mags and a barrel
Tok thread i guess? Just bought mine last weekend, numbers match, 1953 Romanian TTC. $225 for the gun, original holster with the cleaning rod, two mags and four boxes of ammo.
Do they make extended mags for this thing? Haven't been able to find any so I assume not but I thought I'd ask here anyway.
>collected most of these pics from a Tok-Porn thread a few months back
Was going to post those, but you've posted almost all the good ones I posted in that thread.
Good taste, anon.
>I still have a couple though
I've been eyballin' a M70a as my first 9mm pistol to see how I like the round. Though I'm pretty sure I'm going to have to round up one of those wraparound grips before I make my decision as to if it is what I am looking for in a 9mm pistol.
Anyone know what Zastava means when they say the M70AA has an external safety? Apparently that's the difference between it and there M70A, but the M70A has a pretty obvious slide safety. Also, does anyone have experience with the Marschal Zebrawood grips?
I don't care which, to be honest, I just figure that if I do need to use it, I'm not sticking around to pick up my brass. And I think it'd be more of a pain for the cops if they were looking for a 9mm gun, not a 7.62x25. Plus I don't need to be overpenetrating in a CC situation, and I can probably find some good purpose-built CC 9mm online.
Ive been watching it for over a year, JG prices for Tokarevs usually dont budge, they also have polish Maks and Star model b's for under $300
Gunpartswarehouse.com, but only for TT-33 and TTC, doesn't fit the "heavy barrel" M-57's
Here's the thing though, pic related is a M70A from SOG and you can clearly see a slide safety, so what gives? Is the M70AA being marketed in the US as the M70A or is there some other thing I'm not getting here.
I'd like to move to America someday, but it's expensive and a real pain.
I think that is the AA. But Zastava has multiple guns under the "M70" designation, like an AK clone. As far as I know, the M70A is the basic 9mm version, and the M70AA has the safety. HOWEVER, U.S. import restrictions demand a safety, so the new ones are made with one from the factory. I believe you can purchase one with or without the external safety in Canada, but only the safety version in the States. Personally, I prefer the safety. I know I should be able to, but I can't bring myself to trust the half-cock for CC.
Because it looks cool, I do know it's kinda pointless by I wanna get it out of my system, same with ghetto shooting. And as for the mag safety, that 's apparently pretty easy to remove, which also makes it drop the mags on release.
couldn't say, dont know anything about M88A.
I will say that for what the CZ52 supposedly can handle hotter 7.62 handloads that the TT's.
It's a cutaway model, to show the inner workings.
i have done almost exactly this except with a Romanian ttc.
i only replaced the barrel and barrel bushing. (i did not change out the recoil spring )
it will cycle ok with normal 9mm but will sometimes short stroke with cheap fmj stuff.
i always edc carried mine with 9mm +p ammo in it. With the +p stuff it ran just fine
Anyone know if a M57 slide will fit onto a M70A? I hate the slide safety on the M70A and I'm wondering if I could swap in the M57 slide and just have a frame-mounted safety installed instead.
Alright, but what about the frame safety idea? I still want to have a safety and I like to look of the Norinco 213/Tokagypts wo how hard would it be? How much would I need to mess with the internals?
>the M70A mags will fit and work with the M88A, 9 rounds capacity.
Thanks for the info I was curious about that. Is your slide a little gritty when you pull it back? The action feels rough on my m88a.
Browning 1903 is blowback-operated though; Tokarev is recoil-operated. It is only an external similarity.
not sure i understand your question.
but as long as you swap the barrel bushing you should be fine.
no issues with feeding , cycling, extracting or anything like that if that is what you are asking.
like i said, the only issue was that the 7.62x 25 recoil spring is a little stiff for regular pressure 9mm Luger