Whats the difference between Tula and Wolf? Im not worried about

>>28471027
Tula stinks and is really dirty.

Wolf is a different kind of stink and is still dirty.

Just buy whatever's cheapest.

>>28471027
wolf is higher quality ammo than tula. tulas the bottom of the barrel

>>28471035
>>28471035
dirty as in, the powder doesnt ignite entire and blasts all over your gun?

Dirty definition?

>>28471027
Both are just cheap russian ammo.

They're a little dirty, but your gun will probably be fine.

>>28471027
Different manufacturing plants

Wolf is a American company that orders slavshit ammo and puts it in a box, it's usually from barnaul or ukraine before the war, wolf gold is from ppu or taiwan. Other slavshit comes in its own packaging like silver/brown bear, golden tiger, tula, lve, etc

Wolf usually imports all/most slavboo food they just don't package the others unless they have a contract from them.

Tula is its own brand and its shittier of all slav ammo, it's weak and dirty powder but it puts holes in paper but it's best to stick to wolf unless Tula is all that's available

tl;dr
There are 6 Russian ammo suppliers and wolf (American company) is a major importer of them, Tula imports their own stuff

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>>28471151
Leaves a lot of residue

>>28471027

Tula is underpowered because the commie fucks cheap out on everything, including powder.
Wolf is still shit tier ammo, but at least it's somewhat reliable.

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For some reason my SKS gobbles Tula down better than anything else. Could be worse I suppose but I would hesitate to put Tula in anything that wasn't Slavshit already. Wish this was my SKS.

>>28471746
Is pic related yours? Did you refinish the stock?

>>28471746
My AKs run it fine, too. I've only ever had some slight problems with the 9mm.

That being said, I've never had issues with any of the Slav brands, but I can tell differences between them. Tula IS trash- its dirty, doesn't maintain good pressure, and the jacket is very poorly made (which you can tell by just looking at it). Like the other guy said, its only good if nothing else is around. Wolf Polyformance is better than the other wolf stuff as far as I can tell, and personally I really like the Bear ammo lines (even if brown bear is really dirty). GT is the best, but you can't find it in stores anymore around here, and I've never been able to find it in anything other than x39.

Now I'm curious about the newest stuff- RAS by century, if anyone has info on it. I really like the x25 ammo they offer and would say its easily not only the strongest, but also the best made out of all the x25 commercial stuff. I dint have experience with any of their other ammo though.

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>>28471027
>not using lawman
>not using golden tiger

step it up sempai

>>28472170
That looks like someone made a new stock for it out of maple.

>>28471027

How good is the new tula zinc ammo? I plan on using it just for range ammo in my ptr91

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By wolf gold, leave your brass on the ground...

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>>28472213
> golden tiger in charge of proper ignition
I really want to pull one of these bullets but I think I'm going to break my puller before the sealant comes loose..

>>28472250
Looks like a protein powder tub, probably made with same factory and chemicals lol

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>>28472269
I had that happen a couple times within a box or two, never before or after.
Weird.

I use monarch and tula, I've had a 2 or 3 failures to feed/ eject with tula, 0 with monarch out of an AR. But tula .223 seems to be of much shittier quality than their 7.62

>>28472269
>I really want to pull one of these bullets but I think I'm going to break my puller before the sealant comes loose..
All I do is use a table clamp on the rim so the casing can't move, wrap a few layers of fabric around the bullet(reposition if it slips off, or if vice grip seems to be eating into it and risking scratches on the bullet), grab my vice grip, set the vice grip just tight enough to pull on the bullet, and wiggle it out quickly.
It comes out looking perfect, no scratches or anything. Usually I don't even break any sealant off.

>>28472269
>>28472383
Yeah, it's pretty weird how there's some reports of people on here with that with gold tiger

Had the same thing happen once in my 107fr

>>28472229
Yeah, thought so. Either way, its beautiful.
>>28472415
Pretty sure Monarch is just Academy branded Barnaul. In my experience, it's even dirtier than Tula, but it does feed really well.

followup question: The indoor range where I go has piss poor ventilation....everytime I walk in there, there is a cloud of smoke.

This cannot be healthy?

I cannot shoot more than one full mag of my 7.63x39mm Wolf without getting a headache from the smell.

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>>28472525
I think people just mention it and commit it to memory with golden tiger more because it's supposed to be the best. I doubt it's a GT specific problem.
They probably all get their primers from the same place anyway. Then again, vympel is on the opposite end of the country, so who knows? I don't.

Both are steel cased, weakly loaded foreign ammo most suited for range use.

Tula is much more dry. It lacks the polymer or lacquer coating you find on Wolf ammo. Wolf has a waterproof coating over the primer. Tula seemingly does not.

Wolf has run well out of all of my firearms. Tula gives me hams and frequent misfires.

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>>28472574
I have used a case of Wolf and Tula at this point and only had one issues with the wolf and it was just that the case of one round had a huge chunk of that lacquer on it and it would not feed.
I need to zero my rifle again and I am wondering if there is any ammo you would recommend for that. I find with the Tula any ranges past 50 yards and shit get weird the rounds are hit all over the place and some times I have no idea where they are going.
I am new to Slavshit and need some advice. The first case of wolf seemed fine maybe ill get another one of those for zeroing. Thoughts?

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>>28472491
yeah i took it appart with a quarter, my hand and the floor.
just applied max leverage at the tip going around till the sealant broke, then wiggled her loose

>>28472491
I'll have to try that when I get home... I was beating the crap out of my kinetic hammer and it didn't budge...

>>28471027
Never bothered with Tula.

I have, however, fired a lot of wolf in range shooting. They cause fouling fast but run alright.

>>28472632
GT is probably the most accurate and will give you the best results. However, I'd zero in with whatever you plan on shooting most frequently. Try to stick with at least Wolf Polyformance, though.

Alternatively, brown and silver bear seem to work well for some people, so you can try that too. I really like silver bear 5.45, but I only really use brown bear in 7.62x39. Both are fine.

What zero method are you planning to use?

>>28472525
Ive put around 2500 rounds of golden tiger through my PSA 10.5 inch 7.62x39 upper without primer strike issues like that.

Maybe the extended firing pin PSA sends with their 7.62x39 uppers has to do with it.

>>28472718
>However, I'd zero in with whatever you plan on shooting most frequently.
IDK why someone wouldn't just pick and stock up on a single brand and stick with it. I mean, if you take your zeroing seriously at all...

>>28471239
what would be the better slavshit ammo?

>>28472718
Thanks for the advice I have yet to try out GT or any of the Bear ammo. I pretty much get what is available unfortunately is the Tula most of the time. I get most ammo from bulkammo.
Was planning on going for the 25meter zero.

>>28472554
>I doubt it's a GT specific problem.
Yeah. I still shoot nothing but golden tiger because it's the most consistent and best quality russian 7.62x39 anyways

>>28472883
I've just used GT from the start, then tried 500rds of bear a few years ago too.
I was so happy to be back to shooting tiger ammo. It shot so much better for me, and didn't beat up my gun. Bear slammed the bolt back damn hard and sent casings into orbit.

>>28471027
My AR loves Wolf .223, runs it like a fucking champion. I've had more bad rounds with Winchester (a bullet actually got pushed back into it's casing upon hitting the bolt release) than Wolf by far. If your gun can't run Wolf ammunition, it's a piece of shit.

>>28472875
Sure thing. I'd suggest looking at SGammo for ak ammo (they usually always have good deals on mags too). They usually have tons in stock and many varieties. Gt included. The other thing about GT is that it yaws pretty well, which I guess is only applicable in defense situations, but still.

As for the zero, that's my strategy too. It works well and I can get some pretty good groups with my shitty WASR. Just make sure you check it further out because 25m isn't a long enough distance to really tell if the front sight needs drifted left or right.

>>28472974
>25m isn't a long enough distance to really tell if the front sight needs drifted left or right.
I wonder if this was the problem when I could not hit shit at 200.

>>28473002
Could be. I'm not happy till I'm clanking my 13.5in 400 yard steel with irons.

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>>28473008
Same here, and I do it with my other rifles. I am being a rookie biatch with this AK though and need to step up my game with more knowledge.

>>28473002
Probably; what I've found is that it's too close to allow for more fine adjustments since your sight picture doesn't have to be perfect and consistent every time at that distance.

The way to fix this is to get your groups as dead on as possible (especially on the vertical plane) at 25. Then move to 50 and see how horizontal groups move. Correct if need be. Then move to 100 and your vertical group should be back to the same as where it was at 25, but if it moves horizontally, then make final corrections to fine tune. You could just zero at 100, but I think this way allows more control and precision. Also it helps to use a large target with a bright bullseye and that has some kind of grid that you can use to measure with.

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I will give this a try. First time I actually copied advice from the ancient mongolian cave painting board.
Thanks anon.

>>28473143
No problem. Good luck with it. By the way, what type of AK did you get?

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>>28473208
I went ful lsperg and got an Arsenal SAM7SF.

>>28473216
Cool, that gun should be pretty rock solid. Arsenal AKs are sharp and shoot very well. Have a good time and never tell her goodbye.

>>28473040
I've always sighted mine in at 100 anyway. A good zero at 100 translated to those longer ranges fine.

>>28473983
I am usually shooting between 25 and 200yds I am not concerned to much with anything longer but def good know.

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>>28473216
>tfw arsenal doesn't make the classic anymore

>>28474007
Oh I know right!? I would much rather have the standard stock at least. So far not having much luck finding a place that could put one on it :(.

>>28472906
>sent casings into orbit
My slr107 does this no matter what.

>>28474004
Even up to 400 with 762x39, the drop is barely anything worth fretting about.
I usually don't bother even adjusting the sights.

>>28471239
Wolf gold isn't PPU anymore it's all taiwanese

>>28474027
That is pretty cool I am used to 5.56 and it seems like these rounds are pretty damn similar.
Though My range limit is unfortunately max 200.