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>An inert U.S. Hellfire missile sent to Europe for training purposes was wrongly shipped from there to Cuba in 2014, said people familiar with the matter, a loss of sensitive military technology that ranks among the worst-known incidents of its kind.

>This particular missile didn’t contain explosives, but U.S. officials worry that Cuba could share the sensors and targeting technology inside it with nations like China, North Korea or Russia, these people said. Officials don’t suspect Cuba is likely to try to take apart the missile on its own and try to develop similar weapons technology, these people said. It is unclear whether a U.S. adversary has ever obtained such knowledge of a Hellfire.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/missing-u-s-missile-shows-up-in-cuba-1452213667

HAHHAHAAAHAH... my fucking sides.

I bet Russians already analyzed it.
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>>28467856
Why are eurofags so fucking stupid?
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>>28467856
I fail to see how this is a big deal. It's a guided missile. Not like it's the only one in existence.
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>>28467904
>I fail to see how this is a big deal.
that's because you're retarded. but you already know that from all the teachers that told you that over the years.
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>>28467856

>1970s tech
>sensitive military technology

Oh for fucks sake, I bet if we lost a LAW rocket people would be calling it a "catastrophic breach of military tech secrets".

If it took the slavs or the chinks this long to get their hands on a Hellfire, then I'm bumping Aliens to the top of my list of "dangerous military threats to the U.S.".
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>>28467946
>>1970s tech
It's been upgraded dozens of times since then. only the package and name are the same.
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>>28467856

Few years ago someone accidentally sent some Greek air force AMRAAM's for maintenance with cheapest bidder doing shipping. I can't recall did Greek AF, Raytheon itself or whoever does their subcontracting in Greece who sent it. Basically cheapest way to get bunch of missiles to US was air freight from Germany and cheapest way to get 'em there was with ferry and truck via Italy and Austria/Switzerland.

>>28467882

I wouldn't be surprised if it was sent with random cargo by manufacturer or who ever has local maintenance contract with whatever country it was sent to or from.
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>>28468061
this.
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>>28467856
>Implying Russia could figure out light guided missile technology from the 70's.

They'd need more then an inert practice round. Maybe they should also send them a team of Ryathon engineers.
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>>28467856
great job europoors
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>>28467856
>inert U.S. Hellfire missile

Practice Inert or Drill Inert?
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>>28471455
training inert. could have fucking sent them two soda cans glued together , same shit
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>>28471349

At least we don't go losing entire nukes on a regular basis.
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>>28468061

>be my friend
>be a member of south african army on MONUC mission in DRC
>parts and supplies for Rooivalk AH were ordered
>cargo arrives, via Congo Brazzaville
>2 massive crates? but the labels and numbers seems to be ok
>there's some fucking huge machinery, pumps and pipes inside
>everybody wtf?
>checking cargo manifest. there's a fucking typo in the paper work send from Pointe Noire
>after some research, it turns out that what was send to them was two field waste processing plants, originally ordered by some offshore oil&gas company
>correct cargo containinig (among other things) one Turbomeca engine, around 60 FFARs and some electronic parts went missing in Point Noire and never been found
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>>28471896
>At least we don't go losing entire nukes on a regular basis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_United_States_Air_Force_nuclear_weapons_incident
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>>28467946
You misunderstand the whole issue.

It isnt about China or Russia copying the Hellfire, since they have long ago similiar ATGMs for their helicopters in service, but it is about them getting hard facts on the specs of the seeker and guidance technology, the most sensitive part of the whole issue. With their knowledge about the secret laser-frequency that the seeker uses, they can tune their countermeasures and jamming/decoy systems to defeat all Hellfires of that same generation.

Pic: Z-10 with HJ-10 chink Hellfire
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How much software does a dummy round have on it?
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>>28474808
If it is a dummy, nothing. But if it is an inert simulation round, it has everything that's important on it.
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>>28474235
Oh god! Nukes went from our end base to another!

That's totally the same as those Nukes that Russia has no clue to their location!
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>>28471896
never heard of a broken arrow?
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>>28474808
Inert has everything but the shaped charges. I believe it even has propulsion engine.
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>>28474846
>has no clue to their location!
I'll need to see some citations about that, kid.
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>>28471455
>training inert.

Oh noes! North Korea ground crews are going to figure out how to hang a missile from a hardpoint. We're doomed!
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>>28474849
Yeah, duh.
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>>28467856
>Missile Shows Up in Cuba
Somehow this thread is a lot less exciting than I thought at first glance.
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>>28474846
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1961_Goldsboro_B-52_crash

:^)
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>>28467856
It was bound to happen considering hellfires are one of the most widely exported munitions in the world. The US practically hands those things out like candy.
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>>28474846
>buttmad mexican
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tybee_Bomb
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>>28475508
better than losing your nukes so hard, another country captures them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_submarine_K-219
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>>28475531
>implying I'm ruskie
>stay mad José/Tyrone

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1950_British_Columbia_B-36_crash
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>>28475295

I bet UPS had something to do with this fuckup
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>>28475531

>In 1988, the Soviet hydrographic research ship Keldysh positioned itself over the wreck of K-219, and found the submarine sitting upright on the sandy bottom. It had broken in two, aft of the conning tower. Several missile silo hatches had been forced open, and the missiles, along with the nuclear warheads they contained, were gone

Wait, did US vessels go down there and sneak the nukes away?

Or did the Soviets covertly recover them?
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>>28475531
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Scorpion_(SSN-589)
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>>28475591

>losing an attack submarine
>comparing that to losing a ballistic missile sub

Okay weeaboo
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>>28475578
Out of the two countries, only one had experience stealing shit from Soviet submarines miles underwater.

>>28475591
>Soviets didn't even realize we had lost a sub until we told the press
>never did find it or develop the capability to raise shit from it
>US still keeps tabs on the wreck
Hardly a K-129 or K-219 tier fuck up
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>>28475620
>>Soviets didn't even realize we had lost a sub until we told the press

Do you seriously believe that CIA bullshit? If you do, you're an indoctrinated retard.

>>28475609
>comes on an anime site
>insults anime fans
OK kid.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Thule_Air_Base_B-52_crash
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>>28475646
Considering the Soviets never developed a good hydrophone net, and the Atlantic is such poor conditions for a hydrophone the US military had trouble finding the boat quick, it's easy to conclude the Russians would have been in the dark.
Sending a bunch of ships out near the Azores pinging active sonar probably got their attention pretty well, but at that point the sub was already declared missing.
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>>28475680
you're a fool and know fuck-all about russian/soviet subs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1966_Palomares_B-52_crash
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>>28475700
Nah, Soviet subs were just shit for a long time. There's reasons they were so easy for quieter US subs to follow without being detected until the days of the November class
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>>28475720
soviets lacked CNC machines which meant their screws had faults. now their subs are quieter than american subs.
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The military loses shit all the time.
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Obama shipping weapons to cuba now, literally a traitor
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>>28475739
>soviets lacked CNC machines which meant their screws had faults
yes, as I said, they were shit for a long time. Even in '68, which is when Scorpion exploded.

>now their subs are quieter than american subs.
I'd ask for a citation, but the relevant figures for the US ships are probably pretty secret.
However, Akulas were said to be "close" to Los Angeles class boats. Impressive for the time, but ancient now.
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>>28474235
>>28475646
>>28475555
>>28475508
>>28475700

turns out that when you fly with live nukes on deterrence patrols, and you're flying an aircraft that has 8 engines because fuck you that's why, sometimes you crash for no reason at all.
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>>28475791
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/russia-launches-quietest-submarine-the-world-12765
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>>28475815

a diesel electric boat is quieter than a nuke boat? who would have ever guessed?
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>>28475829
>a diesel electric boat is quieter than a nuke boat? who would have ever guessed?

See, like I said, you know fuck-all about Russian subs. Their nuϲⅼear subs are as quiet as their diesel subs. Why? Because all of their new nuϲⅼear subs are designed differently from American nuϲⅼear subs. Whereas American subs use steam to power the propulsion directly, Russian nuϲⅼear reactors charge batteries which in turn power electrical motors. That means they're an order of magnitude quieter (and also safer but that's beside the point).
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>>28475815
>nationalinterest
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>>28475871
Is this a joke?
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>>28475871
>safer
>Russian subs

laughingfamiliesofKurskcrewmen.jpg
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>>28475894
>MUH WEBSITE DOESN'T END IN .MIL or .GOV so it's not true because only gov propaganda is true
go away Tyrone/Jose. come back when you get your GED.

>>28475895
found the idiot.
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>>28475922
US lost more subs than Soviets/Russia (even with their shit economy)

US also lost more nukes, more planes and more ships than Russia (even with their shit economy)

And let's not get into space topics and how many more people US lost than soviets.. that's one of the most embarrassing topics given how shit Russian economy is yet how good their rockets are.
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>>28475815
>According to the company’s website, the commander of Russia's Navy, Viktor Chirkov
wew lad, where to start?
russian officials certainly never lied about everything ever, right?
200% trustworthy tovarish )))))))
ruble is fine
no russians in ukraine
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>>28475950
>US lost more subs than Soviets/Russia (even with their shit economy)
>K-129
>K-219
>Kursk
>Komsomolets
>Hiroshima killing people multiple times
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>>28475871
You realize that a nuclear plant still has to run a turbine to generate electricity right
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>>28476133
he knows nothing about subs and he is not here to have a discussions
all what he is here for is to keep that "rrroaar, russia so stronk! be scared capitalist pig-dogs" meme alive
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We exported tons of these, Russia probably already acquired a few just by greasing the palms of some guys in Pakistan or Yemen.

There's really not a ton of 'secret' tech in these.
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>>28474849
>>28474235
>regular basis
>single incident
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>>28472000
>"missing"
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>>28475646


i bet you actually think that the US didnt have tabs on every single soviet SSBN from 1970 onwards
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>Itt europeans lose a missile and go into supreme anime damage control
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>>28467856
>paywall

Either alternate link or go away OP. I'm not giving them shekels.
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>>28474851
>I believe it even has propulsion engine.

AFAIK there are only 2 inert variants of the Hellfire:

-The M36 (CATM-114), which is used for captive carry training, so doesn't have a rocket motor
-The M34 (DATM-114), which is the ground handling training aid - so is literally just a piece of ballast in the shape of a hellfire

The CATM-114 has a seeker etc. - it's the one in OP's image. But if the "inert" missile sent to Cuba is a DATM-114, it's a non-story.

I'm pretty sure that if China wants a good look at a hellfire seeker, Israel or Pakistan have probably already obliged them.
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>>28467946
>implying aliums ain't real.

Hillary's working for her ayy lmao masters, trying to disarm us for their Independence Day style invasion.
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>>28477449
http://www.space.com/31513-hillary-clinton-ufos-alien-life.html
FUCK
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