Colt 1911 rail or no rail

>>28463499
rail is nice to have, its nearly impossible to find an off the shelf holsters for 1911s with rails/ lights, they never quite fit right and god forbid you ever change something like the slide release

that being said if you dont plan on ever putting a light on it save yourself the hassle and dont get a rail

>>28463534
I don't believe I intend on swapping any parts on it. I do like the ability to add a light when I want it

I have found these 2 holsters but not sure of either brand's quality. Anyone have any experience with these brands or have a recommendation for 1911 5" with rail IWB holster?

Thank you

http://www.amazon.com/Galco-Waistband-Holster-Springfield-Left-hand/product-reviews/B001TOI2PG/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewopt_kywd?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1&sortBy=byRankDescending&pageNumber=1&filterByKeyword=rail

http://www.amazon.com/Fobus-Tactical-Standard-Conceal-Springfield/dp/B00I3FMFVG/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1452197380&sr=8-8&

>>28463751

those are both garbage. a decent holster is going to cost in the 40-100+ range

with so many kydex options out there, there is no reason to get a generic holster

>>28463855
How about
http://www.crossbreedholsters.com/HotcakesStore/ProductViewer/tabid/113/slug/SuperTuck-Deluxe/Default.aspx

They have an option for 1911 with rail and for Colt/Kimber/Springfield/etc

I have the same holster for my glock 27 but was not sure with a 5" barrel on the 1911

File: image.jpg (2MB, 4032x3024px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 4032x3024px

Get the Colt with the new version rail. It is solid on the bottom of the rail as opposed to having a groove.

Also has a national match barrel, undercut trigger guard, and the dual recoil spring setup. I think it's a great value.

Currently waiting on a Garrett industries iwb holster.

File: image.jpg (67KB, 1024x768px) Image search: [Google]

67KB, 1024x768px

>>28464040
Garrett industries leather lined kydex holster.

File: 1450011090331.png (879KB, 1322x857px) Image search: [Google]

879KB, 1322x857px

>>28463499
My two cents
Colt has the history edge, and most people who want a 1911 specifically a colt 1911 want the history. So I go a basic GI colt 1911 government for that reason, then bought a tactical Wilson combat with front serrations, skeletonized hammer, rails, ect so I got to fill both needs. The 1911 game is a fun one if you can afford it

File: SW1911_E_Series.jpg (63KB, 600x600px) Image search: [Google]

63KB, 600x600px

1911 autists will tell you it can never have a rail because it isn't what JMB designed.

1911 enthusiasts will tell you to make up your own mind and be independent nigga, biatch.

>>28464052
This should be the other way around.

File: image.jpg (48KB, 710x533px) Image search: [Google]

48KB, 710x533px

>>28464040
Rail differences

>>28464091

So fucking ugly. Not only does it have scallops, but the disclaimer on the slide makes me want to shit on my own face.

File: Johann_Heinrich_Füssli_053.jpg (2MB, 2473x3106px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 2473x3106px

>>28464040
What brand/model is the 1911 on the bottom with the slick slide? It looks kind of Les-baer-y with those serrations but I can't be sure.

>>28466801

Read the writing on the sights.

>>28466801
Les Baer Hemi. Birthday gift from my ol lady.

File: Untitled - 1.jpg (349KB, 612x681px) Image search: [Google]

349KB, 612x681px

>>28463499
I need a rail, I put it on. I get tired of it, I take it off.

File: 959968_1445217961042.jpg (1MB, 1900x1263px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1900x1263px

>>28466999
I honestly prefer this rail.

>>28466999
>>28467014

You're both complete fucking idiots.

File: 1433289002785.jpg (181KB, 1024x685px) Image search: [Google]

181KB, 1024x685px

>>28467014
Same, it's a great rail alternative. Although I think they're discontinued as I can't find one for sale anywhere.

>>28467072
Oh damn, well that sucks. Lucky I got mine.

File: springplug-440x203.jpg (16KB, 440x203px) Image search: [Google]

16KB, 440x203px

>>28464040
colt a shit

File: lowercrack-440x319.jpg (22KB, 440x319px) Image search: [Google]

22KB, 440x319px

>>28467094

>>28466914
Didnt look that closely at them the first time thanks.

>>28466960
Neat

File: slidecrack4-440x287 (1).jpg (24KB, 440x287px) Image search: [Google]

24KB, 440x287px

>>28467102

File: slidecrack3-440x330.jpg (24KB, 440x330px) Image search: [Google]

24KB, 440x330px

>>28467114

File: slidecrack2-440x331.jpg (21KB, 440x331px) Image search: [Google]

21KB, 440x331px

>>28467167

>>28466999
Dude, you've taken more pictures and swapped out the grip panels more than you've shot it.

Go outside and shoot the gun.

>>28467102
Test units failed after very high round counts and no recoil spring changes.

Frames and slides cracked resulting in the larger railed section, wider spaced slide cocking serrations, and double recoil spring setup on the m45a1.

Newer rail guns share these changes.

File: slidecrack1-440x328.jpg (25KB, 440x328px) Image search: [Google]

25KB, 440x328px

>>28467220
Colt's RG is inferior to other railed 1911s. I'd take a Kimber over modern Colts until Colt gets it's QC and cost under control.

Why are you buying RGs over the operators, Sig whatevers, Kimbers etc of the world again?

Below is a summary of broken or cracked components produced as a result of this reliability test:
· 6 broken slide stops
· 5 broken ejectors (legs sheared)
· 4 cracked slides
· 3 broken thumb safeties
· 2 broken front sights
· 1 cracked frame at the accessory rail
· 1 broken extractor
· 1 broken plunger tube (legs sheared)

4) After firing 150 rounds, the recoil springs reduced in length from 7.32 inches to 6.46
inches. After 450 rounds, the recoil springs measured approximately 6.38 inches in
length. After 4,500 rounds, the recoil springs measured approximately 5.94 inches in
length.
5) On multiple occasions when replacing the recoil spring with a new one, the new recoil
spring would kink and bind the slide so that it would not cycle (similar to what occurred
with UUT 11B13). Pulling out the new spring would reveal that it had received a
permanent bend as a result of this binding (see Figure 10). Depending on the severity
of the set in the spring, some of the “new” recoil springs had to be replaced again
without ever firing a round so that the slide could move without binding. The assembly
procedure used by the personnel replacing the recoil springs was verified to be as
specified in Colt’s provided Armorer’s manual, so this was not attributed to operator
error.

>>28467196
You do know that most of the time I'm posting the same old pictures, right?

And how do you know how much I shoot it?

>>28467346
By the lack of wear or signs of use.

>>28467029
How so?

>>28467354
Shooting a gun wears the outside?

>>28467367
if you even bothered to carry it around for 24 hours youd notice new scuff marks
there would also be marks on the trigger and hammer from use

>>28467406
It's not a carry gun.

>>28467354
Different guy here.

That doesnt mean fuck all.

My benchrest rifle, on the outside, looks LNIB. Im about 300 rounds from needing to replace its third barrel, the action has over 30,000 rounds on it. I have been shooting it regularly for 8 years, and I bought it used.

>>28467438
He's just talking out of his ass and got caught.

>>28467284
Springfield: ils, nope.
Kimber: had one, constant ftrb.
Sig: https://youtu.be/WZSnXXqB_gw

File: P2160001.jpg (2MB, 2288x1712px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 2288x1712px

>>28467438
I do not believe you, sir.

>>28467490
>forcing me to watch this dumbass' videos
For some reason he breaks every gun: HK, Sig, MPs, etc that isn't a Glock and his conclusion is that all guns but Glocks are shit.

>>28467490
the ILS is easily removed, and it's plenty good enough for the feds.

>>28467615
Springfield Professional that the Feds use has no ils.

Sure, you can remove it, and Springfield makes a fine gun, but why?

>>28463499
I have carried a ton of different find over the years and except for a short lived expiremental stage as a nub, ain't never tried to carry one with any kind of light or lazer.
Keep that slide slim and sleek to better carry it more better.

File: IMAG0148.jpg (2MB, 2688x1520px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 2688x1520px

>>28463751
I bought the more expensive fobus one for my RIA m2011. Works really well and it weighs 2oz. It took me a bit to get used to the passive retention since I'm used to button retention. Now I just put my thumb on the top of the left side of the holster to stabilize it as I draw. No issues past that.

>>28463499
Throw that shit in trash. Nam ended many years ago senpai.

Rails ruin the look of 1911, stop making this gun a tacticool weapon, it's not.

File: IMG_1057_zps4clfrak4.jpg (59KB, 1024x683px) Image search: [Google]

59KB, 1024x683px

Spending over a grand on a 1911 is stupid, pic related its a fucking $5000 1911. I will let you guys figure out what's wrong with it.

>>28464188
Is there a reason to why the right side rail has grooves cut into it?

>>28463499
Aesthetics superior without rail, as well as better shape of gun for comfort and CC.

Do you really *need* a light? Remember the implications of using a flashlight that points exactly where your firearm is pointing, and you may find that (for a pistol) it may be better to carry a light off the weapon.

This is under the assumption you are using a long arm for home defense, and that i do believe in having a light on.

picking up my stainless mk80 5" tmmrw :D

>>28470638
Each rail may or may not work better with specific types of rail adapters or brands or accessories.

Kinda ugly.

http://www.amazon.com/Recover-Tactical-1911-System-Grips/dp/B00N2P3VU6

>>28467490
The fuck is going on here?

>shoot
>"EHH! EHHH! MMNEH!"
>crab dance
>judo chop
>shoot
>fling mag away dramatically
>crab dance
>shoot
>"wraaaaaahh! reeh!"
>crab dance
>this gun isn't threatening enough
>wave another gun around to show you still mean business
>"REEEH! MEEEH! EMMNNEHHH! dah! dah! dah! TEH!"

Was this supposed to be informative?

>>28470770
I don't know what they are doing, but the sig definitely isn't working.

>>28470638
Supposedly for weight reduction. That is the style that was cracking after like 12000 rounds and no recoil spring changes.

New frame and slide addresses all those issues. It's about 4 oz heavier than the old style gun.

Lots of folks here hating on it, but they haven't used one. It shoots great.