binary firing system

>>28459646
>cannot be shipped to Oregon

Why not? These kinds of devices are completely legal in Oregon. Probably just a typo or error.

>>28459646
Not even fresh, we've had 3 threads about this already

step it up cuck

>>28459670
Maybe it cannot be shipped in organs? I don't know why churches would need this though.

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>>28459697

whats the point of firing faster when the gun has increases chances of click instead of boom?

>>28460048
>he didn't pay attention to MAC when he watched the video

ADD faggots I tells ya.

>>28459864
To rain down holy fire on the dirty heathens in the form of jacketed lead

>>28459991
I'm no Bernie voter (fuck him and Hillary desu), but this is a retarded comparison. Trained government soldiers are nothing like refugees fleeing state-sponsored violence.

>>28460081
But 5.56 ball is steel core anon.

>>28460048
What's the point of a bumpfire stock when it's wildly inaccurate? It's fun as fuck

>>28459646
>$400
Freedom is expensive.

>>28460232
Just figure out how to pull a chinaman and knock off the design.

>>28459646
AK version when?

Not endorsement just the same thing for an ak, never used ir seen used. But yeah here is an ak version.

https://tacconusa.com/products/view.php?id=41

Finally a binary my twink ass can identify with

>>28462584
That's not the same, it's just a light trigger for bumpfirefags

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Why do fudds get so horned up for pseudo-FA gimmicks? I get that select-fire guns being so expensive and heavily regulated is stupid. I know that the practical difference between semi and full auto is minute. I'd love to own a $500 select fire rifle. I still don't see the appeal to these bumpfire stocks and gay triggers. They just seem like a way to burn ammo(money) faster in an attempt to impress your idiot friends while you're all circle jerking in a sand pit.

>>28462745
Ive used a slide fire stock on an ak, its much more controllable than bump firing the traditional way.
It does take some getting used to in that you pull the rifle away from your shoulder to fire, if your talking tactical war zone/shtf , id run it as simie auto.
They are fun and they are easy to use.
Its ok to have thing that are just fun not everything needs to be an end of days capable tool.

Whats wrong with impressing your idot frieds?

>>28462805

Don't get me wrong, this trigger looks fun. But $400 worth of fun? How many mags would I dump before it got old? Probably not many.

>>28462922
2 bullets per trigger pull?
Personally it wouldnt get old, its just an option thats there, i wouldntvuse it every shot but its nice to have the option

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>>28459646
I would actually use this more like the two round burst on a kriss. Not some shitty fa knockoff

>>28462979
thanks bud, now i don't have to say it.

>>28459670
your state probably has a vague 'no devices that could mimic f/a' law. Franklin armory has been covering all of their bases as thoroughly as possible from the ATF (which dragged their feet like crazy with this device) to the state levels.

>Not for civilian sales in CA, CT, DC, IA, ND, NJ, NY,OR, or WA.

>>28462979
>Made in USA
Have fun when it breaks apart on you.

>>28460098
What? No it isn't.

>>28460093
might as well of started with, 'im a huge faggot..."

This would be cool if it was known how well it fits into other companies lowers. And what happens to your selector switch?

>>28459646
I wonder what would happen if I combined my bump fire stock I already have with this Binary trigger?

>>28459646
>whats /k/'s opinion?
It fucks up way to much for me to like using it. Burst capability is also just a waste bullets if you think about it.

>>28460353
it's patented and Bill Geissele got denied by the ATF when he tried to submit his own third position trigger just like this.

>>28459670
Ya that makes no sense.... Im pretty sure we have no bans other than federal law...

>>28465381
>I wonder what would happen if I combined my bump fire stock I already have with this Binary trigger?
Non-stop hammer follow. Have you even seen the videos of this thing in action? It's fine for controlled, slow, 2-round burst, but any attempt at magdumping usually has a couple light strikes because of hammer follow.

>>28465765
Bill Geissele's design must have been different, because the BFS was approved by the ATF.

>>28459991
Except these guys bring civilization to a backwards country

Mexicans, poor Syrians bring the third world to civilized countries

I'm not anti immigration overall, but it should be restricted to those who will provide long term benefit to society

>>28465939
>Non-stop hammer follow.
yeah, that's what I'm afraid of.

so what's better then, a bump fire, or binary trigger?

>>28463196
>This is bait.jpg

>>28459646
What does a binary firing system feel like?

I'm guessing you could shoot, hold the trigger down, then release, I can imagine that.

But if you just naiively pull it would it be like a two round burst or a shot and an awkward second shot?

>>28465970
They both are different means to the same end. If I wanted to magdump reliably, I'd use a bumpfire stock. If I want to achieve faux, controlled 2-round burst, then I'd use the BFS.

In the end, both are just a way to empty magazines more quickly and send more lead down range in a shorter amount of time. If I had to choose one, I'd go with the BFS because magdumping with a bumpfire stock gets boring. At least there's some practical uses for faux 2-round burst.

>>28466004
>What does a binary firing system feel like?
Apparently it has a really long reset on semi-auto.

>But if you just naiively pull it would it be like a two round burst or a shot and an awkward second shot?
If you're a nogunz without proper trigger techniques, it'll probably feel just like a two round burst. If you practice good trigger techniques and aren't expecting the second shot, I'm sure it'd be awkward.

>>28466004
How do you naively pull a trigger

>>28465939
Unfortunately Bill gave up on "super fast" triggers after the ATF raid.

>>28459646
>Really long reset
>Hammer follow

Sounds fun for a toy but I wouldn't put it in a self defense or competition lower.

>>28466033
i think it means just jerk the trigger back and let it go right away like some kinda noob

>>28466033
i would assume you dont know the gun has this trigger installed so you pull the trigger it fires normally at this point you release the trigger then curse as it goes off unexpectedly

>>28466033
Like... the normal way without anticipatory action related to the second shot.

>>28460093
only like a quarter of the fucks that are coming here to europe are even from syria, and that's only one of the many problems with the whole thing

I need this trigger in my life

>>28466052
>ATF raid.
WAT

>>28466058
still better than bumpfire

>>28464488
Safe and semi are the same. Where full auto would be, is where the binary mode is located.

>>28459646
Can anybody who has one of these take it apart and lay the pieces out so i can try to recreate it?

Literally ordered one 5 hours ago. Just saw this thread

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>>28469467

>>28469530
how the fuck do you not pay taxes on that?

>>28469673
interstate commerce

>>28469681
wanna break me off a piece of that?

>>28469735
Sure, go online and buy anything from a state other than yours
It's out of the state's hands to charge taxes on it.

>>28469746
unless its california

>>28469735
should have said im in another country haha

>>28469530
Fyi. I already own the tac con 241. This will replace that in my fun gun.
The tac con has its place for close and far. The bfs is for close only.

>>28466058
>competition lower.
that's exactly what it's useful for
fast doublettes

and it will be banned in most rulebooks soon probably

>>28469530
wanna send me a couple mate ?

>>28470866
no we're not sending you itar kind of shit

>>28470876
>muh ITAR defense technology protecting the lives of our brave troops overseas

give it a rest

Anyone here put the mechanism in a non-franklin AR?

>>28462745
Fudds are people who only like shotguns and hunting rifles you dumbass

>>28469530
>$400 product
>still fuck you with shipping

please tell me you can combine it with a bumpfire stock

>>28471869

You can, but the result will be an AR that malfunctions constantly.

>>28471876
More so than a usual AR?

>>28471876
>You can, but the result will be an AR
ftfy

>>28465765
There were ATF approved two shot triggers in the past. There was one for AR15s as early as 2013, and there are videos of a two shot mod for the Mini 14 from 2008.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfxggJvaCc0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhuQOZSwFvY

>>28460098
No it's not. Please don't comment here again until you've learned more about the subject you're talking about.

>>28471902
>>28471894

Confirmed for Fudds/NoFuns.

>>28465983
Name one brand made in America that has any sort of good quality that isn't a .22 or a revolver. I'll wait.

>>28472887
USOPTICS

>>28472887
this is bait, but...

beretta
ruger, you know they make things other than revolvers, right?
noveske
Daniel Defense
BCM
(pretty much any of the better AR manufacturers)
all of the high end 1911 manufacturers, Ed Brown, Wilson, Nighthawk, etc...

>>28462979
>>28463018
This

As I said in one of the earlier threads, I'd buy one in a heartbeat if my state wasn't Jew-tier.
There will probably won't be a 2nd gen version with a hammer retarder to fix the hammer riding the bolt home, since that would need a sear sensing bolt position and what not.

>>28469673
I get that, but that means having your lower engraved unless you buy theirs

>>28474309
what would you need an engraving for if it's not an NFA item?

you make no sense.

>>28463037
>IA
wut
Fuck this state

>>28470876
ITAR is a sham

>>28459646
Achievable with a paper clip on a Mini-14

>>28476924
how reliable is it though

>>28459646
Whoever approved this at the ATF is going to lose their job and the ruling will be reversed. The reset isn't another trigger pull, it's simply the end of the first.

One trigger pull, one shot. This breaks that rule. Don't waste your money.

>>28465765
ATF approval has nothing to do with patent infringements.

>>28459646

Retardedly expensive and unreliable. If they fix the hammer follow problem it MIGHT be slightly better than just a really nice drop in.

>>28462745

It's only because full autos are restricted, of course. I own a couple of FAs but I can't wait for semi-autos to be so fast that it doesn't matter. To undermine the ATF.

>>28479908
He tried his own design that wouldn't infringe on their patents and got burned.

how legal is this in texas?

>>28476924
But a paperclip doesn't give you a fire selector to keep single fire.

>>28479890
Nope.
https://www.atf.gov/file/55391/download
>Section 5845(b) of the NFA defines “machinegun” as “any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger.
>a single function of the trigger
Trigger reset is a separate function of the trigger, ATF has ruled this before. And yes I'm aware the ATF has reversed on their rulings.

This might be cool as a way to achieve burst fire instead of thinking if it as full retard. Build an M16 style ar and have fun with that.

Think of all the standard AR-15 alternate calibers you could this with like the 6.5 or .50 Beowulf.

>Franklin Armory is a California corporation that specializes in manufacturing quality firearms for sporting, military, and law enforcement applications.

I don't buy from Californians, ever.