When will HK admit that they fucked up on this part of the VP9.

spray paint

or a pawn shop to sell it

>Germans
>Ever admitting that their retarded engineering is retarded.

lel. No.

>>28458781
whats wrong with it?

HK charges big money, so they know what they're doing.

>>28458781
They fucked up the whole VP9

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>>28459169
It's the new HK SafeLock. You have to insert a small key to unsafe the firearm.

This or something like this is a new requirement for all firearms in California for 2016

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vOu5ZGfgtVk
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>the vp9 sucks

mac is extremely biased in that review. There was an rmr cut which the dirt got into and completely siezed the striker pin.

Oh it's okay. HK is inherently expensive so it's fine to give them shit for the smallest of things because /k/ is 99% poorfag collegeboys

>>28459204

So they are requiring guns have a safety that encourages their owners to never use it...... Smart.

>>28459242
You have to use it, the gun will not function unless the key is in the firearm in the unlocked position. The key must be designed to fall out/be pushed out when it is in the safe position so you can't just leave the key in the gun.

Modifying it to bypass the key lock makes it an illegal assault weapon.

>>28459265
>Modifying it to bypass the key lock makes it an illegal assault weapon.
It also makes any stray bullets turn into baby seeking homing bullets as well. Seriously if you care about children then don't get rid of that lock OP.

What in the everloving fuck?! California why?

>>28459319
Safety bro. Gotta keep people safe with common sense gun laws.

>>28459344
I suck at google-fu or something. Where the fuck does said key go?

>>28459353
On the HK's it goes right into the back of the slide.

>>28459344
This whole shit is just legislated away? We can't be trusted with firearms and designs that have been floating around for a hundred years? No, but we can sit on our ass and think we're solving the problem by voting on some goddamn toggle at the end of a pistol? Fuck teaching the people to be safe just baby proof everything and nothing bad will happen! If it comes to pass that they need to modify old guns with this shit I'm out.

>>28459369
Meanwhile, mandatory sex ed with homosexual and gender fluid content has just been mandated for all public schools in California. Because that's important. That and free weed.

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>>28459369
Give it time bro, your safety is a top priority.

>>28459361
All I can imagine is some ones car keys swinging around attached to it then.

I cant tell if being sarcastic or if laws are actually this retarded

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>>28459387
It's not that inconvenient bro.

It has the added convenience of having a "collar bell" effect, like on cats. So if a criminal is lurking in the shadows with a gun, you'll know where he is because of the jingle of his keys on the slide.

>>28459385
>>28459387

Oh fuck my sides hurt. I can just see the other end of that keychain going on a giant set of keys and it swinging around.

>janitors keys later designated assault weapon attachment.

>>28459225
I did not see the rmr cut on his vp9.

Am I being pranked right now? I can't tell if this is real or not

>>28459204
>>28458781
So... I don't see anything out of the ordinary, and my (recently purchased) VP9 didn't come with a key like that.

What do I do? am I boned? Or is mine just not "California Compliant"?

vp9 is shit get a p30 instead

ITT: noguns who pretend to own the VP9 and gullible retards.

>>28459204
No it's not fuck head

I can't tell if I'm being meme'd or not

>>28459412
Or the criminal will have his tac welded unlocked and then ground down.

>>28459225
>mac is extremely biased in that review.

at that time he loved the gun, it was his CCW. if there was a bias it was absolutely in favor of the VP9!

>>28459242
>So they are requiring guns have a safety that encourages their owners to never use it.
I have no idea if this is true but the simple fact is that the vast majority of gun owners never use them, they may serve nightstand for a few months and then are put away

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>>28459204

>>28459225
Lol the vp9 costs as much as a glock its a poorfag gun

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>>28459155
>Meanwhile every new weapon the US DoD buys is German engineered.
"Lel"

>>28459155
Just because the VP9 is a mega-dud doesn't mean the USP, Mk.23 and P30 weren't great.

Yes newfags, you are being memed on. It's a loaded chamber indicator. Now git

>>28461662
>Belgians
>German
>Bushmaster
>German
>American-designs
>German
sure m8

>>28459169
The VP9? It seriously stops working when wet.
If you want a H&K 9, buy a USP or P30.

>>28459225
>really likes the gun and is biased towards it, was his carry gun
>then discovers that it can literally not handle water
H&K fucked up this time, just live with it.

>>28459369
The kicker is that these keylocks usually break, if the gun is locked when that happens, it's disabled effectively.
On the Smith & Wessons, the keylocks are called "Hillary Holes"

>>28459383
>genderfluid
Well that's fucking gay and retarded.

>homosex
I don't have issues with that, if gay kids can be taught the basics of CQC and that you in fact DO need condoms even though it goes in the butt, that'll hopefully reduce disease risk and spread.

>>28458781
>When will HK admit that they fucked up on this part of the VP9
>When will HK admit that they fucked up the VP9

foiled by moisture, drat the luck

>>28459515
Anyone got an answer for this, or is this whole thread just shitty bait?

>>28461602
>most expensive glock on Cabelas website costs less than VP9
???
Where are you getting these numbers? Either your LGS is selling VP9s at a deep loss or jacking up glock prices.

>>28458781
This wouldn't be a problem if people didn't buy the cheapest HK

>>28463137
you were boned the second you bought a VP9

sorry senpai

>>28463344
Yet another shitpost not backed up by any evidence. And one video hardly proves anything, no matter how many times it's posted.

>>28463422
stay mad that you lost your VP9 key faggot

>>28458865
He's talking about the hole, not the color of the rear of the striker.

>>28459169
The hole lets water and grit in; apparently the hole was a cause of failures in MAC's torture tests.

>>28459204
No, it's not, dumbass.

>>28459225
>There was an rmr cut
Incorrect. He tested a fresh out of the box VP9 in stock configuration.

>>28459319
Dumbass.

>>28459353
Into a bicycle lock.

>>28463137
You're just stupid.

>>28463500
>The hole lets water and grit in; apparently the hole was a cause of failures in MAC's torture tests.
that's what mac speculated (because muh beloved VP9) but that is ridiculous, water would still pour into the back or that pistol if the hole wasn't there

>>28463500
>you're just stupid
Well shit, sorry for coming to a gun forum to discuss guns and specifically a gun that I have. I didn't know knowledge about all models of something I own was required for me to be "smart".

>>28461662
That's why 80% of the guns in service are made by FN and the other 20% are Italian pistols and American made weapons?
>muh 416
Makes up statistically 0% of the arsenal.

>>28458781
Buying an overpriced PPQ, with a cuckhole lock.

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The VP9, more susceptible to water than a flintlock

>>28459204
Wait what? is that a new law cause we don't have to do that.

To be 'ca safe' it has to have a mag disconnect and a load chamber indicator.

>>28463137
>bumping a comment
did they just get 4chan where you live?

>>28459204
No it isnt, I bought a glock 26 in cali yesterday

>>28459515
>What do i do?
stop taking bait on the internet

>am i boned?
yes i think so, but not because of anything in this thread

>>28459242
>>28459319
>>28459353
>>28459369
>>28459387
>>28459388
>>28459413
>>28459504
>>28459515
>>28459583
>>28463137
>>28463674
oh /k/ you're better than this

right?

>>28464335
/k/ a place that tags elders who were raised with guns for their entire lives as fudds, and believes these men are somehow cringe worthy at best or the enemy at worst.

no, /k/ is not better than this.

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>>28463591
>mp5
>mp7
>m27 AIR
>m320 GLM
>mk23 mod 0
>GMG
>xm25
>m416

>>28464612
Don't forget the HK45ct was adopted as the Mk24 to fill the role of the Mk23 in a smaller package.

>>28463591
What is an m27?

>>28464612
>attachment weapon platforms and a few borderline irrelevant rear echelon guns
GG

>>28464504
Fudds are people who don't know shit about guns beyond their daddy's daddy's hunting rifle. Age doesn't matter and all old people aren't automatically Fudds.

The only reason most Fudds tend to be older is because Baby Boomers are shitheels

>>28464700
> high end weapons manufacturer
> only used by high budget, elite unites
gee, who could have guessed?

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>>28464700
>Osama, is that you?

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>>28464700
>rear echelon guns

>>28464674
Hey look we made a gas-piston AR!

GERMAN ENGINEERING

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>>28464700
>borderline irrelevant
>6500 Infantry Automatic Rifles bought for the USMC

>>28458781
doesn't that red dot mean the weapon is cocked (and most likely there is a round chambered)?

>>28464741
>Say no m416s in service
>I state name of m416s in service
>you move goal posts
nothing to see here, move along

>>28464741
>Hey look we were not able to make a gas-piston AR!
'murican engineering

>>28464789
>What is the Ruger SR-556

please die

>>28464757
Yes, a "ready to fire" indicator.

>>28464851
> SR-556 designed 2009
>416 in service since 2004

Copying is not designing anon.
Your turn to die

>>28464757
No, it means the gun is menstrual.

>>28464871
Either way it's not like HK fucking invented gas pisoned ARs.

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>>28464931
>There he goes again.
Again!

>>28465009
You said that American's couldn't make a gas piston AR so I gave an example. You respond by bitching about the year they were released. You moved the goalposts first, faggot.

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>>28465049
>NO U
The Germans do a much better way at selling them to the burgers anyway.

>>28465102
whoopie fucking do

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>>28465148
This is just priceless

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>>28465163
I'm glad that you think that this is some flawless victory for you, Anon. Have a great day.

>>28464504
Fudds aren't old people (necessarily), they're people who endlessly regurgitates worthless bro-science and don't actually know what they're talking about.

A fudd is also conservatively minded in weapons, but in very dumb ways, doesn't trust plastic, doesn't like "ASSAULTWEAPONS" or people who do, thinks 9mm is equivalent to .22 Short, and praises .45ACP as a handcannon (when 9mm Luger and .45ACP are very comparable to each other in terminal ballistics), typically they will talk fondly about "stopping power" as if it was a scientifically quantifiable concept, and in general have a very poor understanding of both firearms and firearms laws.

>>28458781
>When will HK admit that they fucked up on this part of the VP9
After they admit roller delayed blowback on the G3 was a mistake.

>>28459225
Biased or not MAC McDouche demonstrated fatal flaws in the VP9. It failed where I would expect success, and the market will act accordingly.

VP9 a shit

>>28465549
Fudds are people who support gun ownership on the basis of hunting, some include sport shooting, who are not pro-2a. This generally correlates with "lol 9mm", "muh 45", "muh 1911", "muh wood", et cetera.

Hunting has nothing to do with the Second Amendment or self defense.

>>28464735
>anemic subgun that requires half a magazine on average to be effective
>implying it's especially deadly
>fires a very high-speed bullet
>implying the use of a suppressor alone will make it "silent"

The MP7 is dumb as fuck, the MP5 series was better in almost every way.

>>28465163
You are just mad you can't own and carry guns.

That truly is an ugly "feature".

>>28466708
>After they admit roller delayed blowback on the G3 was a mistake.

what's wrong with it?

>>28459265
That sounds incredibly fucking stupid.

Also that shit will fall out with recoil

>>28464612
The M320 is a piece of shit and not an improvement over the M203

>>28468148
>Mangles brass, non replaceable barrel, lots of kick, more picky about ammo
what isnt?

>>28468273
>mangles brass
Get a port-buffer.

>non replaceable barrel
It's not easy on the AK either.

>lots of kick
Git gud/dyel

>picky about ammo
I've seen pickier.

>>28468273
>picky about ammo

In what way? I have never heard problems of G3's or clones being finicky about ammo. Mine eats anything, although it does destroy all brass I shoot.

>>28468177
>320 piece of shit
Never saw a 320 break. Seen tons of broken 203's. Also I can holster a 320

>>28458781
HK doesn't fix or update their pistols, they just note it for the next iteration

See: the USP still using that fucktarded proprietary rail.

>>28468341
>although it does destroy all brass I shoot.
portbuffer

>>28468365
The VP9 was the blunder of the century but the P30 is pretty grand.

>>28468495
I wasn't trying to say HK pistols were bad, just that they don't change pistols once they're released. Since all their DA/SA pistols since the USP are evolutions of the same design, they just incorporate changes into the new versions.

I like the P30 as well. If the trigger didn't suck I would've bought one years ago.

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>>28468527
>I wasn't trying to say HK pistols were bad
Neither was I.
I think H&K makes some great pistols.

The VP9 is just not one of them. It's just barely better than the VP70, worse in fact, because the VP70 being more or less a refined Hi-Point, at least wouldn't cease functioning when exposed to moisture.

The USP, PS9, P7, P30, Mk.23, these are all great pistols.