When will HK admit that they fucked up on this part of the VP9. Is there any aftermarket parts that can remove this feature?
It's the new HK SafeLock. You have to insert a small key to unsafe the firearm.
This or something like this is a new requirement for all firearms in California for 2016
>the vp9 sucks
mac is extremely biased in that review. There was an rmr cut which the dirt got into and completely siezed the striker pin.
Oh it's okay. HK is inherently expensive so it's fine to give them shit for the smallest of things because /k/ is 99% poorfag collegeboys
You have to use it, the gun will not function unless the key is in the firearm in the unlocked position. The key must be designed to fall out/be pushed out when it is in the safe position so you can't just leave the key in the gun.
Modifying it to bypass the key lock makes it an illegal assault weapon.
>Modifying it to bypass the key lock makes it an illegal assault weapon.
It also makes any stray bullets turn into baby seeking homing bullets as well. Seriously if you care about children then don't get rid of that lock OP.
This whole shit is just legislated away? We can't be trusted with firearms and designs that have been floating around for a hundred years? No, but we can sit on our ass and think we're solving the problem by voting on some goddamn toggle at the end of a pistol? Fuck teaching the people to be safe just baby proof everything and nothing bad will happen! If it comes to pass that they need to modify old guns with this shit I'm out.
Meanwhile, mandatory sex ed with homosexual and gender fluid content has just been mandated for all public schools in California. Because that's important. That and free weed.
Give it time bro, your safety is a top priority.
It's not that inconvenient bro.
It has the added convenience of having a "collar bell" effect, like on cats. So if a criminal is lurking in the shadows with a gun, you'll know where he is because of the jingle of his keys on the slide.
Oh fuck my sides hurt. I can just see the other end of that keychain going on a giant set of keys and it swinging around.
>janitors keys later designated assault weapon attachment.
So... I don't see anything out of the ordinary, and my (recently purchased) VP9 didn't come with a key like that.
What do I do? am I boned? Or is mine just not "California Compliant"?
>So they are requiring guns have a safety that encourages their owners to never use it.
I have no idea if this is true but the simple fact is that the vast majority of gun owners never use them, they may serve nightstand for a few months and then are put away
>Meanwhile every new weapon the US DoD buys is German engineered.
The VP9? It seriously stops working when wet.
If you want a H&K 9, buy a USP or P30.
>really likes the gun and is biased towards it, was his carry gun
>then discovers that it can literally not handle water
H&K fucked up this time, just live with it.
The kicker is that these keylocks usually break, if the gun is locked when that happens, it's disabled effectively.
On the Smith & Wessons, the keylocks are called "Hillary Holes"
Well that's fucking gay and retarded.
I don't have issues with that, if gay kids can be taught the basics of CQC and that you in fact DO need condoms even though it goes in the butt, that'll hopefully reduce disease risk and spread.
He's talking about the hole, not the color of the rear of the striker.
The hole lets water and grit in; apparently the hole was a cause of failures in MAC's torture tests.
No, it's not, dumbass.
>There was an rmr cut
Incorrect. He tested a fresh out of the box VP9 in stock configuration.
Into a bicycle lock.
You're just stupid.
>The hole lets water and grit in; apparently the hole was a cause of failures in MAC's torture tests.
that's what mac speculated (because muh beloved VP9) but that is ridiculous, water would still pour into the back or that pistol if the hole wasn't there
>you're just stupid
Well shit, sorry for coming to a gun forum to discuss guns and specifically a gun that I have. I didn't know knowledge about all models of something I own was required for me to be "smart".
The VP9, more susceptible to water than a flintlock
/k/ a place that tags elders who were raised with guns for their entire lives as fudds, and believes these men are somehow cringe worthy at best or the enemy at worst.
no, /k/ is not better than this.
>mk23 mod 0
Fudds are people who don't know shit about guns beyond their daddy's daddy's hunting rifle. Age doesn't matter and all old people aren't automatically Fudds.
The only reason most Fudds tend to be older is because Baby Boomers are shitheels
>6500 Infantry Automatic Rifles bought for the USMC
The Germans do a much better way at selling them to the burgers anyway.
I'm glad that you think that this is some flawless victory for you, Anon. Have a great day.
Fudds aren't old people (necessarily), they're people who endlessly regurgitates worthless bro-science and don't actually know what they're talking about.
A fudd is also conservatively minded in weapons, but in very dumb ways, doesn't trust plastic, doesn't like "ASSAULTWEAPONS" or people who do, thinks 9mm is equivalent to .22 Short, and praises .45ACP as a handcannon (when 9mm Luger and .45ACP are very comparable to each other in terminal ballistics), typically they will talk fondly about "stopping power" as if it was a scientifically quantifiable concept, and in general have a very poor understanding of both firearms and firearms laws.
>When will HK admit that they fucked up on this part of the VP9
After they admit roller delayed blowback on the G3 was a mistake.
Biased or not MAC McDouche demonstrated fatal flaws in the VP9. It failed where I would expect success, and the market will act accordingly.
VP9 a shit
Fudds are people who support gun ownership on the basis of hunting, some include sport shooting, who are not pro-2a. This generally correlates with "lol 9mm", "muh 45", "muh 1911", "muh wood", et cetera.
Hunting has nothing to do with the Second Amendment or self defense.
>anemic subgun that requires half a magazine on average to be effective
>implying it's especially deadly
>fires a very high-speed bullet
>implying the use of a suppressor alone will make it "silent"
The MP7 is dumb as fuck, the MP5 series was better in almost every way.
I wasn't trying to say HK pistols were bad, just that they don't change pistols once they're released. Since all their DA/SA pistols since the USP are evolutions of the same design, they just incorporate changes into the new versions.
I like the P30 as well. If the trigger didn't suck I would've bought one years ago.
>I wasn't trying to say HK pistols were bad
Neither was I.
I think H&K makes some great pistols.
The VP9 is just not one of them. It's just barely better than the VP70, worse in fact, because the VP70 being more or less a refined Hi-Point, at least wouldn't cease functioning when exposed to moisture.
The USP, PS9, P7, P30, Mk.23, these are all great pistols.