In /k/'s opinion, what is the best type of sword for the average, untrained person to wield against other unarmed and unarmored enemies lacking martial training?
Katana, kopis, diphos...
Not necessarily in that order.
The kopis is the best IMO because it can be used for other things, like as a machete.
The katana because it's intuitive. Diphos is good.
A knife or a hand axe. Basically, you want something that's practical and you can hang on a belt.
A double edged knife is easier to use, but less easy to justify as a tool.
Just be forewarned, any knife fight is likely to end in you being injured minorly or badly, even if your opponent is untrained; most knife fights are won by one guy getting tired of getting cut and then getting dealt a lethal or fight ending blow.
Machete. It's one of the few functional blades you'll get without shelling out over a hundred bucks. Good for utility and as a weapon. A plain Ontario machete is pretty good and cheap. Cold Steel makes several machetes styled like other weapons like a gladius and a kukri.
If you find any kind of sword for under $100 it's probably going to crap like this:
Pretty much anything.
Weapons are generally designed to be easy to use, it's not like longswords are sooper dooper easy and katanas are ultra hard ninjas only. Just about anything with a decent point and a decent edge ought to serve just fine.
If you're untrained it doesn't really matter. A machete will do fine. A saber would be ideal especially since you're probably mostly going to cutting as hard as you can. The extra hand protection forgives alot more than most other swords.
Get a machete, the rwandans showed us that it works breddy gud for hacking people up
Forgot about shields. A little DIY buckler would do the trick
Take it from someone who has trained with one for more than a decade..
Katana is relatively speaking a shit sword and takes a lot of training to wielded effectively. Samurais secret was never the superiority of his weaponry but the quality of his training..
Martial artist not a fat neckbearded ninja wannabe..
Post Scriptum: Fuck weaboos.
Messer. Cuts as well as the best fedora-core katana, so you can chop without worrying about good edge alignment, but has better thrusting capacities and a proper cross-guard. Good for beginners and perfect for fighting unarmored enemies.
>The phalanx following carried spears or lances tasseled with ribbons, the long blades hammered out of trucksprings
machete is the best overall sword for modern purposes. it's cheap, strong, disposable. if you want to go full retard the longsword is the best overall classical sword (dual edge, strong steel, full hand guard).
If you must have an edged WEAPON do not get any machete, except possibly a barong. You want something designed for stabby thrusts if you want a weapon. Try a gladius or kindjal, they are similar in size to a machete and purpose-built to bleed suckas.
For a non trained person
I'm not formally trained got my own long blade, for someone else I would recommend machete or kukri. I wouldn't even try to use a long blade unless I had no other option. Shorter blades are easier to carry, shorter blade is more intuitive to defend yourself with, longer blade is more obvious and more difficult to conceal your fucked with a blade if your not choosing your fight and trying to overwhelm with force. Blades are pure offense.
>Most Effective Sword for SHTF
A modern tacticool gladius;
OP, you might want to consider one of Windlass Steelcrafts 'Cobra Steel' line of weapons if its just a good weapon for the bargain price you are looking for. Super cheep, but not crap.
True to Caesar
The best type of sword is a halberd. That is all.
>what is the best type of sword for the average, untrained person to wield against other unarmed and unarmored enemies lacking martial training?
As a professional swordsmith, historian, and martial artist, I feel I can answer this with a degree of authority.
A handgun. .45 or 9mm, or pretty much anything else too.
The sword is obsolete. its gone the way of the chariot, and the battleship. they're great fun to train with, but using them is somethng else entirely. and you have to be fucking stupid to want to try.
We can assume anon is in a noguns place, or he just wants a melee to complement his gun. Or he is interested n swords but wants it to also be able to be used in defense just in case.
Injuries are consistent with a long slashing weapon. Some bone damage so the dude must have had some muscles.
So yeah, a sword can be used in home defense. Personally, I'd go with a saber, it's lighter and has a knuckle guard. Plus, if I dress fancy enough I can strap one to my belt and nobody bats an eye.
>I'd go with a saber, it's lighter and has a knuckle guard.
Some infantry sabers are fairly light. A lot of cavalry sabers (read: most sabers) have a decent heft to them, comparable to a longsword. On top of that a lot of them have metal scabbards, and that can double the weight right there. I am a fan of sabers myself, but I would not really describe sabers as being light. Knuckle guard is a good thing to have though.
You know what happens to faggets who bring swords to a gun fight? They get shot.
Bring a sword or a gun?
>not having a cold steel in reserve for when you run out of hot lead.
It's like you want to be captured by ISIS and executed in some horrific fashion.
A fucking machete. Cheap, durable, intuitive. Good for chopping, slashing, and some stabbing.
You're not going to be doing any of that movie bullshit, you're just going to hack at the other guy as fast as you can. Meanwhile, he's gonna be fending you off with the jagged end of a broken off broomstick. He's got the reach, so you need to keep it away from your eyes, throat, belly, and crotch.
One of you dies a Third World death.