Ok I want a carry gun in .45. I was thinking about the glock 30 but it's a double stack and really wide. But this Para Elite Carry is a single stack and is obviously thinner. So what does /k/ think?
you say its thin right? well the slide is but the grip isnt
if youve got standard grips the thickest point is roughly the same as the grips of a glock 17
its just that in your hands the grip is more oval than rectangular
Have you seen a lot of the 3" models fail?
I just don't understand how they would be any less reliable because I would imagine all the guts would be the same other than just a shorter barrel and slide.
I carried a Springfield Loaded Gov't profile 1911 for a long time before I got a lighter carry gun.
1911s do carry well if you have the right gear and clothes, though I'll give you a little word-of-mouth warning. Current school of thought is that officer and commander 1911s tend to have reliability issues.
On top of that, officer-sized 1911s have fucking tard strength recoil springs. They are not fun to deal with, in my opinion. Recoil of a .45 ACP in a package that small would be unpleasant.
Some people swear by officer-sized 1911s, some people don't. Personally, I'm not a huge fan. They don't tick the boxes I need them to for my carry needs, so I carry a Gov't profile when I want to pay tribute to St. Browning, otherwise I carry something else.
Colt Defender works fine. If you're going to get a small 1911 at all I highly recommend sticking to those. They're in 9x19 and .45, and are fantastic.
>I just don't understand how they would be any less reliable because I would imagine all the guts would be the same other than just a shorter barrel and slide.
1911 fag here.
When you shorten the slide, it increases the speed at which the gun cycles.
Reducing the amount of time a round has to feed naturally leads to feeding issues.
What you have to do is modify the design to slow down the cycling speed.
Stiffer hammer springs and recoil springs, oversized firing pin stops, ect. can do this.
Basically, it CAN be done right. It's just that not everyone takes the time to do so.
We've definitely used more than 2k through it but I'm trying to remember if we're on the 3rd case of 1000 or the 4th. And we've had two, same day, wife was limp wristing hard.
Mostly ball of course, but we've put speer gold dots and federal HSTs through it and she carries it with the HSTs
Also OP, on the Glawk30 if you have a G19 you can reference, they're basically the same size, the 30 has a barely shorter slide.
I need all the thinness that I can get, because I eat too many ameriburgers and my shirt isn't the desired looseness around my belt. So there's no way in hell I could do any of the doublestacked glocks. but the 1911 isn't the thinnest thing ever either. the pointyness of the end of the grip/floorplate would probably be a malfunction when printing with me if I carried the defender.
I kinda get what all you guys are saying. I guess I just wanted a smaller 1911 for weight but at the end of the day you really aren't saving much weight vs the reliability you're losing. And with the glock you're getting awesome reliability. When you shoot a glock 30 is it fun or like getting a 7 year old to hit you in the hand with a ball peen hammer?
ive been caring a llama 3 for a few years now its been honestly the most reliable gun i have carried in the auto family but if you get a shortened 1911 id opt for a spring upgrade to help cycling