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Ok ok ok ok sooo... with these new laws what the fuck is going to happen when my grandpa passes and I inherit his guns? "DID HE SELL YOU THESE FIREARMS? MORE THAN TWO??? WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CONFISCATE THESE BOY."?

Also I didn't see a QTDDTOT in catalog so lets do that
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>>28438606
>with these new laws what the fuck is going to happen when my grandpa passes and I inherit his guns?
They'll put his ashes in federal prison.
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>>28438641

Good bye 200 y/o guns kept in dehumidifier cases n shit
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Better question

What's a good, inexpensive bolt-action or semi .223 or similar caliber rifle? Looking for a little learning rifle that isn't a 10/22 because
>finding 22lr
Not looking for an AR platform either
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>>28438606
>Grandpa loses guns in a tragic boating accident
>You buy a gun safe
>Gun safe magically gets filled with Grandpa's old funs
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>>28438748
You should get an AR.
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>>28438753
I will chew your balls off
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>>28438606
My understanding is that it only applied to online sales.

Would be funny if they came out and said " you get two online guns per lifetime unless you get an FFL"
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>>28438748
Why a bolt action for a small caliber like .223? If you do go that route though, I would recommend getting something chambered in 5.56, as it will also shoot .223 - but not the other way around.
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>>28438748
>semi .223

ever considered an AR?
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>>28438763
Well do you have any suggestions then?
I'm worried 5.56 will kick a bit too hard and may give me a flinch habit. Bolt action so I don't have to worry about whether my ammo pressure will chamber a semi-automatic, especially if I'm firing .223 through a 5.56.
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>>28438606
Inherited guns don't qualify as being "engaged in the business of selling firearms". So...literally nothing happens. You get his guns.
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>>28438606
stop telling the government about your shit dumbass.


they cant govern what they dont know about.


this is why we cant have nice things.
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>>28438748
Savage Axis in .223

Seriously like $300

God tier quality.
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I don't get on /k/ for 4 days and they're already passing a new gun law? What exactly does it entail?
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>>28438782
Seriously, consider getting an AR in 5.56. The recoil is almost nonexistent, and there's an insane amount of aftermarket parts if you want to customize it. There's a reason why AR platforms are so popular.
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>>28438800
Is that... A long-action .223?
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>>28438782
>I'm worried 5.56 will kick a bit too hard

Oh you're a troll. OK, got it.
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>>28438801
Not laws, Obama shot off an executive order that does a whole lit of nothing.
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http://www.amazon.com/NcStar-Muzzle-Brake-Bolt-On-AMSKSB/dp/B001OLVI82
I recently acquired a norinco sks and I'm looking for a muzzle break to fit it in. Anyone have experience with this one?
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>>28438806
I don't fucking want a customizable moneysink you dense moron

>>28438800
This looks alright, I wasn't aware Savage made the Axis in .223, will look into this. $300 is what I'd end up paying for most 10/22s once you factor in gas to find anmo and ammo price anyways
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>>28438848
>muzzle break
>break
>SKS
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What should i buy next? I already have:
91/30 nugget
M44 nugget
. 22 buckmark for funsies
. 22 marlin 60
3006 durr rifle
Bubba'd Yugo Sks
AR
SIG 229
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>>28438958
AK
duh
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>>28438958
Bulgarian Makarov
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>>28438606
>Tfw convinced my grandpa to give me his guns, since, as I pointed out, his shitty faggot kids who haven't visited in decades would just pawn them
>Promised to restore them, and I am
>Didn't even have my RPAL in progress at the time, but whatever, fuck the law
>Got his logbooks from working on Voodoos and T-Birds and such (the one at the Abbotsford airport was one he worked on, and is in the books), pins and such, and a huge vintage RC model magazine collection
I didn't ask or expect much, but I lucked out. I hope his faggot kids come demanding the guns, since I'm not only in the will for them, but have a hand-written note from him saying he gifts them to me.
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>>28438964
What AK can i get for ~600 that isnt shit?
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>>28438984
half of an Arsenal.
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>>28438980
>tfw no cool grandparents with cool funs
I mean I'm probably gonna inherit 2.7 quadrillion dolarrydoos from my great aunt, so I can't complain too hard, but whatever
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Picked up a new Lee Enfield and am in the process of disassembling it for cleaning.

Two questions: seeing as it's winter and I can't do the garbage bagging and setting it in the sun so I'm planning on going with mineral spirits, and the stock has cleaned up nicely.

The question I've got is the Enfield has those black painted metal parts, if I use mineral spirits on the cosmo, won't I end up taking off the paint too?

Second question is how important is to remove the the handguards and buttstock to remove cosmo underneath? I've read stories of people cracking the stocks trying to remove them from the gun and I'd like to avoid that if possible. It's not like the cosmo is going to hurt the gun when I shoot it right?
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>>28438606

are you buying a bunch of guns from your grandpa and reselling them for profit?

no?

then literally nothing changed.

and even if you WERE doing that, literally nothing changed because if you're selling guns for profit you need a FFL.

nothing

changed

retards
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AR-15 in my area for $700. It's in 5.45x39 and comes with 6 mags and 180 rounds. Also has a Trijicon TX30 but that bumps the price up to $1200.

The AR is Spikes Tactical with a Adams Arms upper for what that matters.

My question is /k/, is this a good deal? Should I spring for the optic also? He is willing to accept trades but the only thing I am willing to trade is a norinco SKS.

Yes I am in America.
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>>28438606
Hey OP do this->>28438751
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>>28439073
What kind of enfield?

Also, youtube is a wonderful thing.
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>>28438782
Troll poast for the troll gods.
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>>28439144
Watch it tick by as the pendulum swings
Watch it count down to the end of the day
It counts life away (it's so unreal)
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>>28438782
christ, I thought posts like this were a myth!
>bolt action so I don't have to worry about whether my ammo pressure will chamber a semi-automatic, especially if I'm firing .223 through a 5.56
.... You realize you want 5.56 so so you can shoot 223 or 556 right?...
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>>28439144

No4 Mk 2

I've watched a number of videos on how to disassemble the things so in theory I know how to, I'm just weighing the benefits of cleaning out the handguards and stock versus the possibility of cracking said stock taking it apart.
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>>28439174
Oh, shouldn't have any worries. IIRC there is less chance of cracking or breaking stuff than with a No I Mk III* like what I have.

Do be careful when removing the buttstock. If you don't do it right then yes, you will break your buttstock.
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>>28439138
Do it. Pay cash unless you have a second SKS. Optic is not my area of expertise so I will leave that to someone else to answer.
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>>28439174
Do it right faggit. Wing it and go slowly, but get all of the cosmoline.

Also, mineral spirits can remove most paints so its probably best to try a different method. Have you thought about baking the steel parts?
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>>28439206
Well I doubt he'll trade the whole thing for a SKS but he might knock a few hundred off.

I only have one SKS.

I know, pay cash only. Basically what I do anyway.

Thank you /k/.
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>>28438782

Just get an AR you dumb, pathetic cunt. Now fuck off.
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>>28439191
>>28439251

I'll guess I'll give it a shot then. I just hope I don't fuck it up.

After more research the Enfield coating is suncorite and is supposed to laugh at most solvents so I should be fine using mineral spirits on it without removing the black.

Thanks.
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>>28438984
WASR
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>>28438823
that's probably not an image of the .223 version
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Anyone have any experience with the Marlin 336XLR in .30-30? I already have a .308 for long shots but need something for brush under 250 yards.
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>>28438748
.22 is piss easy and cheap the find, use the internet
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>>28438853
>I don't fucking want a customizable moneysink you dense moron
Then don't you fucking twat. Pay once and then be done with it.
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>>28438606
How the fuck will they know who sold them to you and weren't yours to begin with?
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>>28439959
Be careful of newly made Marlins, Remington owns them and they caught Rems' Quality Control AIDS
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>>28438848
If you want a muzzle device on a SKS you'll need to get the barrel threaded to AK device standards. I advise going to a gunsmith to have this done, since my real advice would be to not do it in the first place but if you are going to anyway at least don't bubba it up.
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>>28438736
If a gun is 200 years old it can be freely transferred to anyone without going through an FFL.
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>>28440292
I was told the XTs and .22s were the problem children and that the .30-30 and .45-70 models are fine. Regardless, what should I look for?
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>>28440397
I've heard all kinds of problems with Remshit Marlins, there's an anon with a failure-to-feed on his Marlin in another thread somewhere for example
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Someone has a Plainfield M1 Carbine for 800 near me, it comes with
>6 15 round mags
>1 30 round mag
>4 mag pouches
>270 rounds of ammo
I have no idea when it was made though, the SN starts with Y, so it was 62-65.

Is it a good deal?
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Can all ARs shoot 5.56 or are some of them restricted to .223 only? Is there a manufacturer like Jennings I should avoid when looking at used or pre-built ARs?
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>>28441464
A little steep to me. The gun itself is worth $400-500, ammo is worth like $120.

If I had $800 for a carbine, I'd just get a GI personally.
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>>28441527
Alright, I was gonna trade my 20 Inch del ton/anderson AR for it, glad you cleared it up.
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>>28439073
You HAVE to remove the stock. Just look on youtube and dont be a retard
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>>28439333
Wait arr you the guy who bought a wrapped engield?
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>>28441547
Well your deton/anderson is only worth 500 so seems like a good trade
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>>28438606
whats a good non SBR carbine (preferably w/ a folding stock) that I can fit under the back seat of my Jeep wagoneer (essentially a cherokee)
no pistol calibers pls
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>>28441637
What about an AK or AR pistol? if not you can get an underfolder
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>>28438800
got a nice trigger, fun to shoot
>czechd
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When do the executive orders take affect? Are they already signed?
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>>28441752
They were signed Monday but as these are effectively memoranda of understanding they indefinitely retroactive.
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>>28441573

I did buy a wrapped enfield yes, but I didn't post about it before so I'm probably not the guy you're thinking of.
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>>28438606
I've really had a bad last two years and I'm having alot of issues trying to cope and deal with that and depression and its getting pretty bad. Without talking to a psychologist or someone who wants to take my guns away or prescribe me meds what are my options of fixing myself?
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>>28442137
certain anti-depressants have the side effect of causing some people with types of chronic pain to receive some relief.
do some research and lie about why you want cymbalta.
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>>28442137

Talk with your friends

If you don't have friends, make them

If you can't make friends, talk to your family

If your family won't talk to you get a dog
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>>28442200
i cant talk to my friends because only one of them would actually care and or give a shit but hes overseas rn and i tried doing the same with two others because they offered and ive helped them in the past with stuff only for them to tell me that im a burden and my family thinks im the happiest person in the world and it would absolutely destroy my mother. I don't know what to do
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>>28442338

Make better friends, pick up a hobby if you have to if you want to meet new people or go volunteer at an animal shelter or a food bank or something.

If your mother can't handle it talk to any relatives that are close to you

You could try talking to a counselor

What's gone bad in your life? I guess you could talk to me if you need to get it off your chest or something
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>>28442129
Do not unwrap it you fuck
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>>28442444

Too late
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>>28438748
Savage Axis is awesome, you can find them with decent scopes for a bundle deal around the $500 mark. A friend got one in .270 Win, and I've had an easy time tagging targets with it with the Nikon scope they bundled it with. Groups an inch easily provided you do your part.

Another option is the Mossberg MVP, which will take AR mags. I haven't spent any time behind this one, hopefully another anon can chime in with commentary on it.
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Is getting pegged by a chick gay?
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>>28442477
Nice job idiot. Might as well sand down the stock now
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>>28442608

What's the point of buying a gun and then just letting it sit there in its packaging?
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>>28438761
>online sales.
perpetuating the myth
you should have your /k/ard revoked
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>>28442425
I've been out of the army for about a year now and i kinda fucked up my legs which is why im out now and alot of other stuff happened with friends and family but all of this combined has just led to me thinking of myself as a failure, weak, insecure, and a whole bunch of other shit and those two friends who said they'd be there for me when they ended up not being really fucked with me hard especially when i came to them at low points. I'm going to school now but I'm also unemployed using GI bill but i just feel broken as anything and am in constant conflict of identity and just feel so fucked up in every regard and i break down randomly now when i didn't before and have reoccurring thoughts of suicide and the only thing stopping me is my younger siblings and parents. i just dont know what the fuck to do and i feel so alone and misunderstood in all of this because everyone thinks im the funniest happiest guy in the world and expects me to be so at all times
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>>28438958
SLM 1216
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>>28442637
Idk where youre located or how much you paid, but a wrapped enfield is worth double a regular enfield. Normally around 800 bucks. That value only goes up. You literally took off a minimum of 300 in value by doing that
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>>28439092
why was an executive order needed to change "nothing," friend?
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>>28442672

I wanted an Enfield in the best possible condition to take my father out shooting as it was the gun he learned how to shoot when he was a boy.

Resale value is about the least of my concerns as I don't plan on selling any of my guns.
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>>28442666

I'm sorry to hear that anon. If your friends weren't there for you when you needed them to be, then they're assholes.

It's good that you're going to school, there's lots of people out there who you could engage with if you few alone and who have little expectations of who you might be. Maybe try some extracurricular activities, or try joining a study group or something similar?

You could also try hanging out with your siblings.

Hang in there anon.
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>>28442729
Sorry to hear that. That rifle sat wrapped for years and years, untouched.

How much did you pay?
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>>28442784
I think thats the first time ive rolled trips anyways my siblings are 6 and 7 so i cant really hang out with them haha oldest is 29 but we just have alot of bad history and shes a terrible person but i guess ill try more to connect with people through school etc but its just tough finding anyone with similar interests or any clubs or any relative clubs or groups
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>>28443006

Psh, you can take your little siblings to go play at the park or go to the zoo or whatever it is little kids like to do nowadays.

I don't know what sort of school you're going to if there's some sort of student union building there's usually a whole rafter of various student clubs and activities, or at the very least there's bulletin board advertising the existence of these groups.

>>28442804

Way more than I should of but time's not really on my side, $1,300 after all transfer fees.
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I'm trying to buy a gun online. Do I just go into my LGS and ask them to email a copy of their ffl to this guy?
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>>28443433

Speak to your LGS first to see if they have any policies in place (for instance, if your LGS sells the gun you want in store they may end up charging you a higher transfer fee so it might not be cheaper for you to go third party)

But basically how it plays out for me it is
1) Buy gun online
2) Dude will send you his information
3) Pay dude
4) You take the information to your FFL and say you bought a gun from them, they'll send their info to your seller
5) Gun arrives at your LGS, they call you in to do paperwork
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>>28438606
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>>28443519
Ok so pay seller, go to ffl say I bought gun from x, can you send him your info so he can ship it here?

I've looked for a while and none of the stores around here have one. Its just a pre-b 75
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>>28443416
YOU PAID 1300 FOR A FUCKING ENFIELD AND UNWRAPPED IT ARE YOU INSANE
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>>28438958
More nuggets
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>>28443630

That's pretty much it though I would suggest that you speak to your FFL first so you get all your questions and potential issues squared away before you send money anywhere.

>>28443733

Maybe?

I bought a gun to shoot, if I was interested in making an investment in something that couldn't do anything with I'd just put it into stocks.
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>>28438606
can anybody tell me the handguard in OP's pick
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QTDDTOT

Is 45 fmj 200 or 230 grain load good for mountain lions in california, and should I go hollowpoint over that, or soft-point?

What is a good back up pistol round for brown bears? Some say the bigger the better, some say a small magnum round put through the brain is the best, and suggest magnum autoloaders that you can get back on target with.
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>>28438958

5-7
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I bought a laser bore sighter for my .308. When i put it in the chamber I tried to adjust it so the crosshairs sit ontop of the laser. When I was going horizontally, I reached the end of my turrets on my scope before It reached the laser. Am I doing it wrong?
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>>28444631
Personally, I'd use a JHP for a cougar for the same reasons I'd use one on a person.

As for brown bears, bigger really is better. .44, .45/70, that sort of thing. Consensus seems to be handguns are pretty inadequate for a pissed off brown bear, so whatever you can carry.
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>>28444708
Also, it says cal: .243 win does that still work with a .308? It fits fine, and the package says .308
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>>28444729

Thanks for the ammo rec. I'm going to probably be doing a lot of hiking in mountain lion territory, and am getting a 45 anyways. There are very, very rare brown bear sighting, but they are always very scared of people.

Think it's ok to just carry the 45? If I moved somewhere with more bears I'd get a .41 or .44 mag. You don't like the 10mm for bears? It seems to be gaining popularity.
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>>28444764
Honestly, I'd just pack the .45 for a mountain lion. If a full grown brown bear decides it wants to fuck you up, it's going to.
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>>28444792

That's what I was thinking. I'll be in a group with a 10-pound dog who will scream at any wildlife that gets near, so I don't think bears will be a problem. Hungry, diseased mountain lions are a different story when walking with your pup.
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Good rifle round for putting something deer-sized down at 500 or more yards? Looking for a reliable rifle hopefully under $1k that is chambered in it. I also know nothing about what scopes are good now.
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>>28444760
>.243 sight in a .308 box
No you got ripped.
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>>28444930
http://www.sightmark.com/sm39005.html
I think I got the right one.
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>>28438606

http://aliengearholsters.com/alien-gear-gun-belt.html

Has anyone heard shit about the Alien Gear gun belt? Was thinking of getting one but haven't heard shit about them.

The whole spring steel core looks pretty neat.
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should I pull the trigger and get a crate of 900 rounds of yugo 8mm mauser?

pic related is what it will feed
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Yugo 8mm is pretty good
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Im concerned about the 3rd exec order. They now have access to our medical records as part of the background checks? I dont know whats on my record. Hell it could say I have depression because when I was 13-15 I was seeing a psychiatrists for ADHD and all this other shit and I was off and on meds including deprssion meds. How fucked am I?
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>>28446055
yes
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How do I become not shit at shooting? The holes never seem to end up where I'm aiming, and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.
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>>28446471
What are you shooting, rifles or pistols?

either way, you just need to be sure your stance is good, shoulders are forward, you are gripping the weapon consistently and correctly, you are using the sights right, and your trigger pull is consistent and smooth without pulling or compensating for recoil
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>>28438853
+ 1 for the Axis, great learning gun.
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>>28446516
Pistols mostly.

I took my friend on his first trip to the range a couple weeks ago, and he out shot me at pretty much every distance. Most of my shots ended up way lower than where I was aiming.

I'm not too sure about my stance, but I think my grip is consistent. As far as the sights, you're supposed to line up the front between the rears right? Would compensating for recoil be what causes low shots?
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>>28442684
Oh, he wanted to change all kinds of shit. Legally, he couldn't do squat. Read the text of the EO.
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>>28446562
Your stance should be braced, like you are about to throw a punch. Do a lot of dry fire practice to make sure your trigger pull is good- put a quarter on the end of the slide and dry fire with it balanced there.
It may pay to get a snap cap and load it into your mags at random next range trip. If you pull the trigger and anticipate recoil, but the gun doesn't fire, you'll notice yourself pushing the gun down.
Another thing to remember- always keep your arm and wrist straight. Aim from the shoulder.
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>>28446562
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If I have a weapon light that extends past the muzzle of my ar15 will it damage the light?
I realize it might foul with particles and such but I'm worried about a lens cracking or something.
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Nogunz checking in.

Is there a good place to buy Russian SKSs or do you just have to dig around the internet until you find something? Should I just settle for a Yugo or Chinese SKS?
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>>28446762
Would you just mirror this image to do left handed shooting? I would think it is just that easy.
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Clue me in on 37mm Launchers, /k/.

Are they all shit? Are some as sturdy as an M203?

Are buckshot rounds doable? What weapons related purposes can they serve?

What do I need to know about making useful rounds? Does the ATF plan to eat my angus now?
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>>28441519
Yes there are .223 ARs, look on the barrel for the caliber. Most ARs are fine. Avoid Radical Arms.
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>>28438748
do you live in a commie state, fudd lifestyle, or do you legitimately not like AR?
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>>28438853
>I don't fucking want a customizable moneysink you dense moron
>AR platform
so you either have no self control or no understanding that a good entry AR is cheaper than semi-auto traditional stock rifle in same caliber?
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>>28448660
>I don't want thing
>YOU FUGGIN IDYOT U SHUD WANT THING!

Who cares, if you don't know the answer stop shitting up the thread.
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>>28448158
37mm owner here.

They are fun. I got one that's under my A1 clone and it's as close as I will get to owning a M203. The handguard was hotglued onto the barrel so I had to rip that shit off and JB welded it on.

As for using 12 gauge that's ass pounding territory, as well as the danger zone. There are 12 ga. flare adaptors but that's for the shorter, smaller USCG flares that don't do shit. They make a 26.5mm adaptor and it's quite useful since 37mm rounds are pricey.

As for useful rounds, if you're lucky you can find tear gas grenades, smoke grenades, and they sell kits for "bird bangers" which are small explosive rounds meant for taking out birds. I reckon if you "accidentally" drop some nails or ball bearings in the shell you'd have a usefull, improvised grenade but that's again entering ATF ass pounding territory.
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>>28448691
I meant a 37mm shell full of buckshot, not a faggy adapter. I've heard of people doing it with flechettes.

Also, if you just register the laucher as a DD BEFORE you get the gud shells, it isn't illegal at all. And still FAAAAR cheaper than a m203 that you won't be able to reload for or get any ammo for.

I am also interested in a 37mm round full of the rubber pellets, a sort of LTL round. Could be useful in a HD situation since I would still have a rifle ready2go if they don't decide to fuck off after the LTL round.

I really don't especially want to kill anyone, even if they break into my home. I would to protect my life if that was the situation, but stopping the person, if possible, before that is preferable for me.

Again, a 37mm buckshot round sounds tits and you're a fag if you don't think so.
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>>28448691
Is there any quality difference between lawnchairs?
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>>28438748
if you don't want an AR just get a mini 14
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>>28438800
If it's anything like the 308 axis the trigger won't be God tier. Can be fixed though and can't beat the price.
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What is an inexpensive brass catcher for AR15s that won't cause any problems either?

Do they make omni-brass catchers, one size fits all guns?
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>>28439138
Wow. That's a really snowflake caliber for an AR. I wonder if it will work with regular mags.
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>>28439155
Oh god my sides
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>>28442540

Only if you enjoy it.
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>>28440397
I have an XT I bought about a year ago, and it's a great gun. I haven't had any problems with it.
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>>28448969
I have seen three places selling them, but it's hard to tell if they were the same product or not. They all have complaints about sagging when they start to fill, but it can be fixed several ways
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>>28449051
I'm
Not
The way I was before
You wouldn't even recognize me anymore
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>>28443416
Thanks for the advice anon
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>>28442684
Because he's a politician. And it's all about appearing to do something without actually doing anything. Not a single shooting he cried over in his speech would have been prevented by this eo. He even admitted that little children in Chi town get shwacked on the daily...proving that Chicago's gun laws haven't helped them...
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>>28438984
WASR. They're quality has jumped up. A lot. It's about $600 or less at Atlantic, but at an LGS you can inspect older ones, see if it strikes your fancy.
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so with the new executive action by obama, if you take medication for depression are you no longer going to be able to get a gun?
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>>28449956
this is my question also
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>>28449046
Dunno, dude said it came with 5.45 mags. I assume 5.45 would fit in a 5.56 mag. IIRC 7.62x39 does and 5.45 is the same case except necked down a bit more for the smaller projectile.

Nice part about it being an AR is that the snowflake caliber doesn't matter, I can always get a new upper.
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>>28447607
Canada
I'd suggest getting a Yugo or Chinese. I'd prefer Chinese.
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I figured with the recent uproar it's time to finally learn - can someone explain what exactly is this "gun show loophole that isn't actually a loophole but everybody says it is because it's scary" is?

I know it has something to do with FFL dealers and NICS checks, but not much past that.
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>>28451544
It's a myth that at gunshows you don't have to fill out an FFL because of private sales, but 99% of gunshow sales do involve an FFL.
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>>28451544
If you buy from a private party, like off Armslist, you don't need a background check.
It's less a loophole and more an intended feature of the original law
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>>28451559
>Fill out an FFL
Eh... 4473?

>>28451588
So, technically, what the antifuns are worried about is someone buying tons of weapons legally and then selling them without background checks to random fucks on the internet, or?
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>>28451618
>someone buying tons of weapons legally and then selling them without background checks
already illegal, if you want to sell a ton of guns like that you need an FFL, and therefore need to run background checks. They just hate the fact we're allowed to own guns at all, and are allowed to sell them as our property.

It's just another buzzword for anti-gun politicians and media to use.
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is it a no-no to put a gun in battery outside the range?
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>>28451802
Yes
Idiot

Gun should be unloaded and magazine removed until you're at the firing range, and at all times when the range is cold.
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>>28451818
:c
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>>28451818
Shut up retard
You must be from commie land where your guns need to be unloaded and locked away and ammo stored in a separate place at all times
fuck off

>>28451802
Not necessarily but be careful. If you're just fucking around with your guns its probably not a good idea because thats how you get an ND.
If you're going to, make sure you clear it right after so you don't forget you left it chambered.

But obviously you have to chamber your weapon if its your carry gun or home defense weapon.
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>>28440304
he shouldt do that, he should just pin that one on there and when he realizes how stupid it is he can just take it off.
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So guns that are only legal for military and law enforcement...

Do you have to be issued these guns or if you are military or law enforcement are you allowed to buy them for personal use.

Maybe im retarded im not really sure.
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>>28438606
what's the best bang for the buck 2 way/uhf/vhf etc radio for a shtf situation?
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>>28453192
wut.
Try explaining what you think is going on?
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Which .45 pistol has most stopping power?
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NFA question:

I want to submit some stamps before 41p takes effect, the problem is I don't have money for all the NFA shit I want right now.
Can I just submit a few Form 1's with custom serial numbers for the kind of thing I'm trying to make, and engrave that later?

Ex; want to make a SBS, but no shotgun. Submit a Form 1 with serial number 12345. Buy shotgun months later with serial number 67890. Get Trust info + 12345 engraved on it.

Kosher?
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Shot my SMLE & noticed these weird rings around the base of the ejected cases. Anything to worry about?
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>>28453192
Military and civilians should be able to own the same weapons.
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>>28454415
Thats case expansion, its really common in the SMLE because of the oversized headspacing (its intentional). Just make sure if you reload you resize the case diameter only and do not resize the case length because otherwise you will eventually get case head separation along those lines.
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I know it's legal to make a gun in the US. My question is would converting a replica (say a revolver) to a real firearm be illegal? Now before anyone says that's stupid since a lot of them use pot metal and it would be dangerous. I'd be replacing a lot of the parts that wouldn't be sturdy and basically just using it so the finished product turns out nicer than a sloppy home made gun. I get that I could just buy one, but I'd be in it for a project.
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>>28454693
If you can legally own the gun normally, you can legally make it.
Protip: if you're shooting anything but .22lr you're going to die.
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>>28444656
Marisa plz
>>28438958
Buy a Sa da 357 they're pretty fun
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I want a blunt weapon for my truck as i can't really afford another gun right now. What should I buy? I was looking at some baseball bats and batons but i thought i should look here first. I'd prefer it be under $35.
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>>28454836
Black pipe
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>>28454863
W/ optional grip tape
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How much would I be looking at nowadays for a Nugget 91/59? Also, any tips on where I could find one? The only one I've seen so far online is on GB buy it now for fucking $700.
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>>28454877
I don't know if that'd spook anyone off desu.
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>>28454836
axe handle
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>>28454726
Nice try, although rifle cartridges would be pretty sweet. I think I'll stick with something with a little less kick for my first project. Not to mention, I don't want to go bankrupt buying ammo.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/09/17/meet-rsh-12-powerful-revolver-world-russian/
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>>28438606
Looking for a plate carrier that accepts the 14x11 XL Sapi plates.

6'7 giant so finding anything online has been a real fucking bitch since there's not that many stores near me, the only which I know of is a Gander Mountain that 5.11 apparently supports. Have no idea if they have vests to boot.
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Alright /k/, does anybody have any experience with prescription shooting glasses? I went out to the range and had a piece of brass make a nice, long scratch into my right lens of my glasses, so i think it's about time I invest in dedicated prescription eye pro. Any body got any recommendations?
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Ok, so considering the steady march our nation's leaders have been taking toward inciting an armed revolution and the current trend of labeling most militia groups as terrorist organizations, where can a non-military serving /k/ommando learn the skills necessary to engage in the oldest and noblest of American traditions without having to enroll in an ATF/FBI honeypot?
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>>28454515
Wait, you mean don't trim the brass to proper length? What the fuck?
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>>28438800

>savage axis
>god tier

I don't even have a reaction image for this.

You can't be serious, the Axis is their bottom-of-the-barrel budget line.
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>>28438984
WASR Nigga. they aren't complete garbage anymore.
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>>28455290
Pic related. Should fit you as long as you don't have hipster-tier glasses. ~$10 / pair on Amazon. Filename is product name.
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>>28455302
Don't worry about "military" skills. Know how to shoot well enough to defend yourself, be able to tend crops in a small amount of land. Maybe distilling alcohol or something like that- if things get really bad it could be worth something.

The days of pitched battle on an open field between militia and King Henry's men are done. We'd be looking at a military coup or the like, much like the later days of the Roman Republic.
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>>28449956
>>28450235

Kek, bet you regret whining to your doctor for feel-good pills now, huh?
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>>28455654
It's not so much "feel-good" pills, as they are are "feel" pills
Depression isn't feeling sad, it's a lack of feeling.
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I was thinking about getting a spike's tactical enhanced lower parts kit. Are they any good? The nickel boron trigger seems nice.

Halp plz
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>>28456589
I've had a spikes st-15 for a while and put lots of steel shit and any kind of 5.56/.223 and it has not failed me although when I got it was unused and dry and I had like 3 spent shells that had to be pogod out so I lubed the fuck out of the bore the locking lugs and some of my ammo and 5000+ rounds later no issues I've had it for about 7 months now
Buddy of mine has a Spartan lower base by spikes with an American tactical upper that has also been very good to him
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>>28455403
It would be half and half because of lot of military dudes agree with our founding principles and what not but a lot are zombies who would do anything if ordered so I feel like it would be ex-mil and civvies teaming up against what is left of the federal governments puppets
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I've been after a Beretta CX4 9mm for a few months now. Finally found one on Armslist but there's an issue, it's in Florida and I'm in NC. The private seller is willing to ship to my FFL but obviously I have to send them money first.

Any way I can go forward without getting fucked or am I doomed to get scammed?
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>>28456757
You should be fine but be careful
If you are really worried just got to gunshows around your state until you find one
Hope that helps
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>>28455403
But what if I want to learn the more or less "military" skills like reloading, moving between cover, firing from cover, clearing rooms, etc?
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>>28456746
Those coups weren't bloodless. Roman soldiers killing Roman soldiers since the days of Marius and Sulla.
Not to mention Sulla's ensuing use of civilians to kill his "enemies".
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>>28456800
Watch videos and read books educate yourself or make friends at the range or wherever who have similar interests and I can't believe I'm saying it but you can do so paintball or airshit matches for that kind of stuff
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>>28455334
No, they left a generous headspace so that it wouldn't get fouled by dirt or grime as easy. It still works, it just makes it harder to reload the ammunition.
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>>28455334
Wait, kinda misread what you said. You aren't supposed to re-trim the brass to original length, when its been fired out of your rifle it is fine where its at, you just have to resize the diameter of the case opening. Like I said, don't resize the length otherwise it will get weak eventually and you'll separate the case when you go to chamber a new round.

http://www.public.asu.edu/~roblewis/SMLE/IIID2a11a4.html
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>>28455334
Enfields have massive headspace because LOL GREAT WAR
Once you fire a round, your brass is now fireformed to your specific chamber. That means it's perfect for your rifle now.
You'll want to neck size only, until your brass won't chamber. Then do a full length resize, and go back to neck sizing. This maximizes the life of your .303 brass.
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>>28458252
Headspace is not the term you are thinking of.
Headspace on the Enfield is bolt face to barrel face and is usually good.
Since rimmed rounds don't need anything but the rim to headspace on the brits used their usual practice of making loose chambers. Fast to machine and will handle any ammo reasonably well. Since military ammo isn't usually reloaded a loose fit in the chamber is no concern to them.
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Do you concealed carry with a round chambered in a handgun that has no safety? From what I've seen here most people think round chambered is the only way to go. Are you nervous about a ND when you carry with one chambered?
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>>28458739
Depends on what you mean by safety. Even glocks have a trigger safety.

I like my XDs in 9mm. Grip safety is an added layer of protection to make sure that I won't ND into my leg when holstering. Otherwise, as long as your holster covers the trigger you should be good to carry one in the chamber. This is general however, some guns it is still unsafe to carry one in the chamber without having the safety engaged.
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>>28439138
Alright anons, I pulled the trigger and I'm going to buy it. Going later today (the 7th) to pay and pick it up.
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>>28458739
Its practically impossible for your gun to go off while holstered. Don't have it out unless you need it to go off.
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>>28444708
It means you did a really, really bad job mounting your scope.

The laser just shows you where the barrel is pointing, so unless you have a curved barrel you need to fix your optic mount, fuccboi
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>>28445247
I would be worried about body sweat (this is going to take quite some time, mind you) or rain or anything like that permeating the leather and rusting the metal inside.
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>>28458966
>AR
>5.45x39
literally what were you thinking? If you want a snowflake caliber gun, at least get the one the caliber was designed for
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>>28445247
I ordered one last week, but I haven't heard anything back about it because, ya know, Aliengear..
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>>28449956
Possibly
From what I understand if you are taking that kind of stuff, your doctor now has the right to report you to the NCIS.
I'm not sure whether this happens automatically based on medical records or if doctors have to report on a case by case incidence.

Having shit on your medical record that prevents you from owning a firearm would be complete bullshit though. Nobody knows whats on their medical record and any old doctor can scribble down some diagnosis based on his opinion. Hell I wonder if it still says I have ADHD back when that was a thing that existed.
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>>28456800
If you want to learn how to do all that, you should go to Syria. Just use your kdr from Call of Duty to see where you're at.
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Anyone have any recommendations for handguns for small weak women?
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>>28438800
Seconding the axis
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>>28460936
you might laugh at this but get her a 357 magnum. They can fire 38 special rounds. Firing 38 special out of a 357 feels like shooting a 22. Then when they get better, they can move up to the 357.
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>>28460936
Bersa Thunder in .380, tubular reciever so she doesn't have to rack the slide. That or a .22 revolver but I wouldn't rely on one.

If a woman is too weak to handle a firearm and doesn't care to get herself into a state where she can, she's not mentally ready to use one either.
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>>28441637
Get a 5.56 mini-14 and slap a folding stock on it
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What caliber for AR 15?
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>>28459444
>AR
>caliber matters

You know you can replace the uppers on them pretty easily right?
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It looks like the only "good" gunrange in my area only allows paper targets. This will be my first time shooting, ever, and my assumption is that shooting paper targets is boring compared to shooting semi-reactive targets.

Am I right? Is paper boring? If it is, how do I make the experience less boring?
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>>28461642
Two options
A) Calm your tits and just enjoy the fact you are shooting guns faggot.

B) Challenge yourself by trying to be as accurate as possible (note, you can do this with a buddy to compete against for more fun).
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>>28461642
Shooting paper isn't boring. If its your first time shooting, it would be good to start out shooting at paper so you can help reign in your groupings and not where your shots are going.
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So let me get this straight. If I just fire this from the hip it's still considered to be a pistol, but it turns into an sbr when I shoulder it?
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What's the point of decockers?
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>>28462586
Shouldering=sbr, yep.
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>>28462799
They allow you to decock the gun without pulling the trigger.
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>>28462586
Yes that is the idea.
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>>28462799
makes the gun less cocked
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>>28462799
In some designs, the only way to raise the gun condition (http://www.itstactical.com/warcom/firearms/colonel-jeff-cooper-carry-conditions-and-firearm-safety/) from one is to drop the mag and rack the slide. Decocker allows you to raise the gun condition without doing that.
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>>28462812
>>28462876
fucking atf how do they work
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>>28452431
>But obviously you have to chamber your weapon if its your carry gun
Been wondering about "Israeli carry", a.k.a. Condition 3 - why do they do that even though they're constantly under threat?
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>>28455403
>Know how to shoot well enough to defend yourself
(intended to be an encouragement) the above implies "get in good financial standing", for to learn to shoot you need to shoot a lot, and ammo is expensive. I'd say the ballpark of the TCO to get proficient with a sidearm would be around $5k spent over a year.

I'd consider that a good investment.
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>>28455710
Depends on the kind. I knew a guy that jumped off all medication because they were taking the edge off his character and were making him feel dull. He's edgy now all right, but at least not boring :)
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>>28460936
Sig Sauer P238. I'm small (5'1"), fits me just fine. Doesn't necessarily come in pink :) If you want some more punch - P938, basically, the same thing, just a tiny bit bigger.
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>>28453489
please, family.
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>>28454161
little bit late but

What I think is going on is that it has to be issued to you.

What I want to go on is that if you join the military you can then go and buy a MP7 and keep it in your truck for dispatching jigaboos
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>>28465034
No. Not even close.
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>>28465070
well then enlighten me, dick. since you know.
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>>28465034
>>28465081
Military service does not liberate you from all of our bullshit laws. No, its like a work PC, you get it there, you use it there, and you leave it there. Only exception is Switzerland.
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>>28465081
somebody else here. you don't get to keep it and you can't buy it after.

now, please, sirs, i need dis >>28453489
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>>28465106
bowchang.
http://www.amazon.com/BaoFeng-BF-F8HP-Two-Way-136-174Mhz-400-520Mhz/dp/B00MAULSOK/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1452207653&sr=1-4&keywords=baofeng
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>>28465095
>>28465106
Okay, so my best bet will be to operate operationally in the military, then get out and become contractor, where i can have mp7 in my truck and dispatch jigaboos while protecting oil pipelines and getting paid big bux
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>>28465133
perfect! that's the one i've got in my wishlist. thanks anon.
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>>28465140
International Merc work is the most surefire, followed by contractor, Merchan Marines, then career specops.
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What's a good holster for AIWB? They seem like a really mixed bag from what I've read about them.
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>>28438751
Safe goes to federal prison
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Going to shoot .45 ACP for the first time this weekend with a G30. I've only ever shot 9mm before, what should I expect?
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>>28465239
Like 9mm, but moreso
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>>28438748
Mossberg mvp patrol
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>>28465261
Okay
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>>28438958
1911 in 10mm
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>>28438606
who gives a fuck what happens to you, what about all the poor grannies that are about to become felony gun runners?
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>>28465239
9mm is a sharper recoil, snappier. Depends on the weapon you're shooting it from.
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>>28465454
So .45 will be less snappier, but more force?
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>>28465463
Less snap, more push. .308 vs 12 gauge.
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Why the fuck can't I find any Beretta BL-series barrels floating around? I want a set I can chop to 18.25"
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If you make a robotic device to cycle the bolt on a bolt-action rifle instead of your arm, so you only have to pull the trigger to fire it, is it legal?
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>>28438606
Can anyone tell me what this symbol on the left of the pic on most WW2 Stahlhelms means? I've seen it on a ton of them.
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What kinda gun is describing as an AK/AR hybrid?
It was like all aluminum, took normal AK mags, used an AR trigger group, had a take down pin and the top part of the receiver unhinged to let it be field stripped.

It was made in Iowa, or it might have been Idaho, but I think it was Iowa, except for the bolt carrier and gas piston part, which was made by Arsenal in Bulgaria.
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>>28440432
Apparently the new Marlingtons have fixed their QC and have a no questions asked policy when it comes to exchanges due to manufacturer defect.

>>28449061
Good to know. There's one for sale at my local gun store for $150, I may have to pick that up too.
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>>28465919
It's the imperial german flag, not sure exactly what eras but it shows up on a lot of different Nazi and contemporary german military stuff.
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Anyone know where to find a bipod that attaches to a top rail instead of a bottom/side rail?
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>>28466054
....why would you want that?
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>>28466054
So the gun like, hangs from the bipod instead of the resting on it?
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>>28466117
No bottom rail.

>>28466157
Yes, that's right.
I know they exist, but my google-fu isn't finding much except unanswered questions on gun forums.
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>>28465937
Creative Arms ARK, made in Des Moines, Iowa
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OK, 1911 Magazines

Say 1911A comes factory with a 7 round flush mag, and 1911B comes factory with an 8 round flush mag. Assuming the 2 are interchangeable, will the 8 round mag sit flush in 1911A?

How can you tell what mags will work in your gun (ie ordering on the net). I realize that most mags are interchangeable, but some are not.

What are good mag companies, and what are the ones to avoid?
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>>28449217
Not him, but hang in there anon. I'm getting treatment for my depression, but I'm concerned I might be fucked about guns. Luckily my parents are pro-gun so they might help me out in that department if it comes down to it.

You aren't a failure. Don't ever think that. You have family that love you. Personally, I think that you should talk to your mom about your depression. You can start the conversation gently, but since she loves you, she has the right to know. If you go to church, talk to your pastor. Pastors are often good counselors. If not, talk to someone in your Student Support office. Say you just want to talk, maybe don't go into as much detail about your depression, but let them know that you are concerned about school or something.

You are not a failure. Hang in there, talk to someone. Don't self medicate. It'll get better.
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>>28466430
Should. Its just a smaller follower and maybe thinner spring/shorter coil.
Mec-gar, promag.
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>>28438606
They get grandfathered down to you. Nothing else happens. The executive order is probably unenforceable.
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How good or valuable/collectible/rare are the Swedish AG-42 Ljungmans? My LGS has one in good+ condition for 500 smackeroonis
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Guys can someone please shed some light on pistols for me?

Rifles have gas pistons or redirection of gasses or even in some cases the barrels travelling back that cycle the bolt for a new round. For some reason pistols confuse me.

How is the slide of a pistol being pushed backed? My initial thought was that the expanding gasses while also propelling the round, pushes the slide backwards with the casing but aren't most slides locked until the round leaves the barrel and the barrel tilts or whatever to unlock and then the slide travels back?
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>>28438736
so dumb

so very very dumb
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>>28455364
yes, for 300 fucking dollars the savage axis is a fantastic gun
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>>28467671
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recoil_operation#Short_recoil_operation
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>>28467671
Most pistols are blowback (unlocked breech) or short recoil operated (locked breech).

When a cartridge is fired in a locked breech pistol, the expanding gases force the case rearward against the breech face (part of the slide). Since the slide and barrel are locked together, they move rearward together. After a short distance, a cam (as in the Glock, CZ-75 or Hi-Power) or other mechanism (such as the Browning swinging link) forces the barrel to unlock from the slide. The slide continues rearward, pulling the case against the ejector and continuing until the recoil spring arrests its movement.
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Got one of these yesterday, it's a 5 shot revolver that accepts .22lr and .22wmr. I got it mostly as a novelty and I'm well aware that .22 is not a reliable defense caliber, but just for fun what's a good cartridge for that?
I normally carry a Glock 19, this'll just be kept in the pocket.
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>>28438958
An SA58 fal. That folding stock is the tits.
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The new executive order has literally no enforcement power. Because the burden of proof is on the federal government to prove that you broke the law with regards to your grandfather's guns, they have no legal ground to stand on.

Worst case ontario you just say that all the firearms were transferred prior to the law being enacted.

You're fine, OP. The law will have no teeth.
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>>28438958
RPD clone so you can be the pimpest nigga on the range
I think DSA makes em
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>>28467876

Eh, anything will do, it's a .22.

Be warned though, you aren't likely to hit shit with it unless you shove it up somebody's nose. Those little fuckers are cute but hard to shoot straight.
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>>28439073
My SKS was packed full of cosmo.
Remove stock. Put stock in oven @ lowest temp (150 ish). Take out every 20 mins to wipe down with mineral spirits. Once it stops 'sweating', you're g2g.

While you're waiting, clean all parts with mineral spirits. It won't remove the blueing.

If you don't clean the stock, it'll ooze cosmo every time you shoot it and turn into a gigantic sticky mess. It will suck.
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does /k/ have an archive?
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Alright guys, so I'm 18 now and I was looking to buy a handgun through the gun show loophole, which involves me buying through a private sale which is exempt from federal laws or something. But with the new executive order now existing, can I not do that anymore? I live in Texas btw.
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>>28467820
>>28467780

Makes more sense now, thank you!
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>>28466749
The executive order didn't actually change anything. Everything it said was already the law.
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>>28468324
Pretty sure the law is about the seller, not the buyer. You can't sell guns with intent to make a business of it without an FFL. It says nothing about the buyers of those guns.
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>>28468392
but don't private salesmen have to become federally licensed dealers or something, effectively removing the gunshow loophole?
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>>28468278
yep
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>>28468420
replied to wrong person, sorry.

>>28468414
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>>28468423
thanks i found it
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>>28468420
>>28468429
Not if the seller isn't making a business of it. Buying and selling repeatedly with the intent to turn a profit requires a license. Selling one gun once does not.
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I live in a country with pretty nice gun and self defence laws but for some inexplicable reason hollowpoint ammuntion is illegal here. I'm going to buy an edc handgun and cannot decide on the caliber. Are 9mm fmj adequate for self defence or should I chose another caliber?
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>>28468530
Nazis used it to kill people fine.
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analog or digital g shock? whats the battery life diiference?
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>>28468526
Cool, thanks.
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>>28438606
> new laws
> laws

Lrn2civics dumb fuck. These aren't laws they are executive actions. These won't make it to Valentine's Day before there is a legal injunction and summer before a federal court or a half dozen state high courts kill it.
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My friend's new Sig P238 manual recommends that it should only be cleaned with "gun oil", which not only being generic as hell, I think is wrong.

IMO oil would leave all the residue in there and just smear it all over the place. What do you all think?
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>>28466354
Yeah, that was it, thanks.
How are they?
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What is better for cleaning and maintaining your guns /k/, oil or grease?
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>>28469729
if 2 surfaces slide against each other, grease
if it rotates, oil
plus oil bare metal
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>>28469771
So oil on a bolt and grease for the chamber?

I usually just oil everything.
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>>28469825
>>28469771
The rule I go by is similar: If it pivots, oil it; if it slides, grease it.

I'd grease the bolt since it's more of a sliding thing than a (small) rotating thing. Avoid getting anything substantial that could impede functionality in the chamber.
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I'm looking into getting good at shooting a CC gun but I'm not related to anyone who knows how to shoot and I'm too poorfag to pay someone to teach me right now. What can I do in the meantime to get decent?
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>>28469846
Well I was thinking AR bolt, oil on the inside of the bolt and then grease on the outside. At least I assume that mixing oil and grease won't destroy a gun.

I assume similar for a bolt action bolt.
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I clean and lube my guns with CLP. Is that enough to prevent rust? Thank you.
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>>28462586
No
The letter the ATF released was an opinion letter with no authority. In their OPINION using a sig brace as a pretend stock is (re)manufacturing the pistol into a rifle (sbr)

So if you're a malicious cunt about shouldering your sig brace the ATF might come around to doing something about it, especially if you're committing a crime.
Just dont shoulder it at the range and you'll be fine

Also I have a question. Might not be the place to ask honestly, but has anyone ever expierenced health problems from hoppes no.9? Its some potent shit right
Well I noticed I get this tender pain in my neck after I clean my guns.
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>>28469958
>Well I noticed I get this tender pain in my neck after I clean my guns.
It's probably just from staring at a downward angle for so long.
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>>28449217

You are welcome anon, I hope it works out for you.
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>>28469956

As long as you keep it lubed, yeah.

>>28469958

Get more air when cleaning, or preferably do it outside.

I get a headache when I breath in too much of it.
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>>28469958
>Its some potent shit right
it's pretty much just kerosene
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Whats a decent 22LR pistol just for plinking? Open to both revolver and semi, no real preference yet, but just starting to look.
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