Title pretty much says it all.
I've been rolling with ironsights and traditional scopes for my entire life. However, I've now gotten interested in these fancier optics.
How'd you explain the differences between different models / types of these red dot / holographic sights?
What's the maximum range you can effectively use this kind of sights?
What type would you recommend for a 7.62x39 AK?
I'd be mounting it similarly as in the pic related, using a quick-mount that attach to the commie rail
only options to consider
>pa advanced micro
>combloc red dots (for the sake of clarity, consider the first two choices)
If you know what you're doing and really wanted to, you could hit up to 1,000 yards with a well built ak and decent ammo.
You can easily make 600 yard shots with ironsights and even easier with a red dot, especially something like an aimpoint with settings to holdover.
That being said, 7.62x39 does have a large drop at 550-600ish yards.
You'd want to either get a low profile gas block rail for a micro dot scout mount or a railed dust cover. Anything higher like in pic you posted is going to make you have to put your fucking chin on the stock to even see through it, and they don't hold zeros very well.
Thanks for the input!
Aimpoint T1 is actually one of the candidates I've been eying at lately. Seems to fit my budget well too.
I'm not using my AK for sharp shooting. Haven't even tried it past 100 meters, so in that sense those optics seem to fit the bill just fine.
Love to look of that rifle.
thanks, I'll keep that in mind.
I'd still prefer to have the optic to be mounted on a picatinny-railed quick mount if possible. I have one for my Vepr .308 with a 3-9x scope, it sits very low on top of the gun, and holds zero damn well.
On the related note, any major differences between those scope-like and these flat screen type holos/ red dots? I'd assume this type would be slightly more vulnerable for damage if crawling innawoods and so?
You can hit things easily past 100 with an ak without an optic. Don't tell me that's why you want one.
Consider either an ultimak or an rs 301/2/3 siderail, both sit low enough to cowitness and hold zero well.
For the flat optics, most of them are worthless airshit like ncstar. The only decent flat optic is the c-mores which are used a lot in competition guns. The trijicon rmrs from what I've seen are built like tanks.
Tube optics are definately more rugged by design.
>You can hit things easily past 100 with an ak without an optic. Don't tell me that's why you want one.
Nope. I know what they're capable of. I've shot a borrowed one up to 300m and hit man-sized targets with no issues.
The optic would be for easier/faster aiming. The irons on my gun are good enough to hit stuff, but front sight's tiny bit canted, requiring the post to be kept at very left end. Hinders the sighting a little bit.
Thanks for your input though; seems like T1 might be my next purchase.
The best option is getting RS Regulate mount with an aimpoint pro for a total of about 500 ish bucks. RS regulate mounts are just awesome and it lets you get a good co-witness through the optic, which is hard to get on an AK.
There are various other options that work, but I feel rs+aimpoint is the best for the money
Also I think I have the same setup as op picture on my WASR. The shitty sight mark with that mount will work and is cheap, but your cheek weld will become a chin weld, and the sight mark starts to break after 800 ish rounds depending on how much shock it takes from handling.
I would, if I could.
I'm European. Gotta have license for each and every gun, and thanks to the mess in Ukraine, the export's completely dried up. The ones floating around now cost a ton, sometimes literally.
Thanks for the recommendations!
I got some local smiths doing and selling their own mounts that are superb quality, and these T1 sights cost very little.
Sounds good. If you want the aimpoint pro just have them make a 30 mm ring with about double the surface area as a normal 30 mm ring for stability. Don't quite have measurements on hand on the height of the ring from the dust cover, but it's very close for that co-witness. You may want to lend them your rifle for a custom fit as well, or make sure they make them slightly adjustable, as not all AKs are 100% the same as far as centering an overhanging scope ring from the side rail, and you'll REALLY want it perfect.
Actually, forget what I said about 30 mm ring, didn't notice you wanted the micro. They have specialized mounts for those I'm sure your smith guy can produce.
You just don't want your mount to be to a picantinny rail because that will be a fuck ton of unneeded height for cheek weld.
Where are you from eurobro?
Getting a new rifle as a sportshooter is a hassle here too. The hunter have it immensely easier.
pic mine cant afoord more at the moment
t. poor student
Funny enough, I got all these with hunting license. I do use 'em for reservist activities as well.
Also got a Mossberg 500A pump.
Was a poor student as well, now just unemployed.
I'm suggesting a PK-AT (pic related). It's positioned a bit left of the receiver, so it leaves the iron sights open for situations when optics fail or battery dies. Also the sight drums are quick-adjustable, so you don't need tools or anything, just hands.
At most, stick to com-block sights like a cobra. That COD sight you have in the OP pic kills the look of the rifle. Not to mention that ugly as rail.
>7.62x39 does have a large drop at 550-600ish yards.
I usually cap my shooting at 400-ish and it's not even beginning to drop enough to make me care, but have shot aks out to over 1000 with some 4x optics.
After that 600-ish mark, it starts to really drop like a rock. I really had to adjust a lot more for every 100 or so yards after that.