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For the majority of modern war (let's arbitrarily say 1914

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For the majority of modern war (let's arbitrarily say 1914 and onward) what has been the smallest unit of men that could decide a battle, in the majority of battles?

The division? The regiment? The battalion is as far as I'm willing to go down.
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>>28436515
One man. Especially if he is a machinegunner.

Okay, maybe two. The machinegunner and the feeder.
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>>28436515
>what has been the smallest unit of men that could decide a battle, in the majority of battles?
Twenty.
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>>28436515

I'll probably get shitted on for saying this.

My squad, marine infantry.

12 dedicated men ready to rip shit up.

We were untouchable.
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>>28436560

The indoctrination runs deep, huh?

You guys could have broken all the way through North Korean and have kim's head by the end of the week, huh?
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>>28436595

As clever as you think that reply was, it wasn't

Refer to your shampoo bottle.

Re-rinse, re-apply, and don't be a lame fuck.
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>>28436609
Rekt
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>>28436609

You actually think a squad can decide a battle against an enemy larger than a company
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>>28436560

How many men died to goat herders?
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>>28436521

Never. Maybe a machine gun company, but never a single machine gunner.
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>>28436657

Not on a grand scale, but yeah.

When we raided one of Saddam's palaces there was zero resistance. We controlled the scene despite it being a battalion operation.

OK, civilian gaiboy? Tell me more about things you don't know about.
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>>28436515
sniper.
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>>28436674

I watched an Iraqi drown a goat in a river

I hate all of them, men & goats.
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>>28436680
He didn't say how big a battle.
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>>28436696

You only hear about snipers delaying the inevitable, not winning battles.
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>>28436699
>drown a goat in a river

Why? To what end?
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>>28436711
that delay can stop an advancement completely. look at stalingrad.
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>>28436714

I don't know why that hajji drowned it.

None of it makes sense..
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>>28436680
>machine gun company
Found the never served child

Also, refer to Audie Murphy, one man defeated a company

"Decide" a battle is very vague. Can they be the only friendly forces present? The only survivors?

Consider LZ xray / Ian Drang valley. A battalion defeated a division.
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>>28436753

La drang is surrounded by so much American propaganda that I doubt we'll ever know ehat actually happened there.
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a day i peak with a men of the french foreign legion. He told than he need two other men and a sufficient supply of ammo to hold a hill as longer as they went...time that aviation does not mingled
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>>28436918
Uh, fuck you guy. Both sides contributed to the account as given in we were soldiers once and young.

Audie Murphy has bit of swelling. I've heard everything from 50 to 120 kills from that machine gun, but the important part is that the enemy surrendered to him, an Individual
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You can plan a battle from the largest unit to the smallest' actions. If you boil it down it comes to the last 100 yards. If the squad who has that spear point job doesn't have the support that goes all the way back, you won't win battles.
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>>28436711
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>>28436515
I'd say a platoon, simply because it's pretty much the smallest unit of infantry you're going to task with an objective of serious significance. Though I'd also say that in "modern" warfare, things like armor, artillery, and air support are the key deciding factors in the grand scheme of things. Infantry is really only used to do things that can't easily (or, depending on the situation, feasibly) be accomplished by any of the other assets at your disposal.
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>>28436680
JOHN FUCKING BASILONE
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>>28436515
One man with a mission from god.
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>>28437830
That fucking picture...
Every fucking time.
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>>28436515

So here's the deal and some stuff to think about. Both sides of the battle have an objective to accomplish and in order to accomplish it somewhere in the battle is a decisive point (could be key terrain, a specific action) that would allow the commander to gain a marked advantage over the enemy (point of no return, snowball effect). Often times it will be different for both sides, for one side to turn the tide they may need to gain control of a bridge, for the other side it might be destruction of 2 or 3 enemy vehicles or a key weapon system. Then you look at what is the smallest unit that could conceivably accomplish that task.

Seize key terrain, probably a squad on up.
Destroy a key weapon system or vehicle, could just be an RPG team or a key IED.

Think of it like football
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-byJvHAXQA

What was the one point in that game that sealed it? What person or people caused that event?

So it could be as simple to identify as a single lucky RPG shot into a helicopter of Navy Seals.
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