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Once mixed, is there a shelf life for tannerite (aluminum powder and ammonium nitrate)? Does it lose effectiveness over time?
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Not supposed to mix it until you are ready to shoot it, it also becomes illegal to transport in a automobile in its mixed form.
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>>28418407
yes, it will clump by absorbing atmospheric moisture leading to failures to detonate after several months. the components are meant to be stored separately in hermetically sealed containers in cool, dry, place.
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>>28418407
Depends on how successful you are at keeping it from absorbing airborne moisture. Also transporting it pre mixed is legally problematic.

Just mix before using.
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>>28418432
I'm not planning on transporting it.

>>28418464
Would taping a dessicant pack to the underside of the lid extend it's viability?
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>>28418506
Possibly...
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>>28418407
>>28418506
What the hell do you plan on doing with it that requires it to last awhile and not require transportation
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>>28419277
Think about it, nerd.
>>28418506
That'll depend on whether the dessicant pack is more or less hydrophilic than the Ammonium nitrate.

A air tight seal is your best bet.
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He's probably gonna rig his house to blow with a trip wire at the front door. For self defense, of course.
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>>28419277
Probably wrapping them in nails and sticking them to trees to use as rifle initiated antipersonel mines.
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>>28419277
He's probably going to save money by buying bulk from china or something
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No comment....
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>>28419277
Homemade Claymores?
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>>28418407
>tannerite is aluminum powder and ammonium nitrate
>didn't know it was that simple to make

off to the store I go to pick up some bleach
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>>28419439
You're welcome....
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>>28419333
>come home drunk
>forget house is trapped
>BOOM

anonymous, level 1, died in the dungeons of doom, tripped on his own trap

lol
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>>28419439
>Buys quantities of ammonium nitrate
>Surprise visit from ATF
>Shoots his dog
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A little off topic but I was at a backwoods range and saw a dude roll up, grab a tub of tannerite, mix and shake it up a bit. Then he put it out in the field about 20yd out and started spraying at it with an AR. He missed a bunch but he did hit it a couple times, but no detonation. He shot more and got increasingly frusturated that it wouldn't explode. He got maybe 3 or 4 hits total. He mentioned I should try hitting it, and I put a .308 round right through it and nothing happened. I shrugged at him and said maybe it wasn't mixed right or got wet or something. By now he was totally steamed, and grabbed his pistol of some sort walked right up to the damn thing and shot it at his feet.

It went off that time no problem, shredded his pants up good, legs were all scratched up and bloody and he fell right on his ass.

He was okay, considering he about got his dick blown off.
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>>28419505
Next time Darwin Awards, next time.
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>>28419505
And that fellow anons is why you don't get pissed off at explosives.
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>>28419439
10% aluminum by weight, just FYI.
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>>28419439
>buys it from the store
>doesn't order 500lbs online for a severe beaver problem

U wot mate?
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>>28419494
You can buy 50lb bags on amazon...kek
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>>28419636
Welcome to every watchlist in the nation.
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>>28419645
They can watch all they want. I think they'll be pleasantly surprised at the number of times a day I masterbate
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>>28419685
I some how doubt they would be surprised or impressed.
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>>28419636
>>28419645
>>28419631
>>28419494
>>28419465
AN is super easy to buy. Just about any feed mill will sell you under 500 lbs without taking your deets, it's the powdered Al that's hard to get in decent quantity.

>>28419595
In this vein, anyone know what the recipe for the rimfire sensitive formula is?

That shit is way spendier than the rego stuff, more than I'm willing to pay, but sensitive to .22 LR and no. 4 birdsong sounds super fun.
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>>28419729
>Powdered Al

How fine does it need to be? Couldn't you just grind up your own?
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>>28419645
Then they will be watching me garden.
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No. Your only worry is that AN absorbs moisture readily from the air. If it's sealed in an air tight container then this is not an issue. Mixing the AN and AL does not create any kind of chemical reaction, so mixing does not have any effect on shelf life. The AL just acts as fuel and the AN acts as an oxidizer when the mixture is set off.

Legally speaking: You aren't supposed to store or transport the mixed product. It's supposed to be destroyed on the same day you mix it.

>>28419729
>>28419595
Mixtures can be between 5% to 20% AL. I have heard that the lower % AL mixtures are more sensitive, but I have not tested this.
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>>28419768
Very fine, finer the better.
You could.
Or you could buy it from just about any chemical supply store, even some arts and crafts stores carry it.
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>>28419729
If I'm not mistaken it is because ammonium nitrate is used with/as a fertilizer. That doesn't mean that BAFTE isn't watching you.
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>>28419718
>3 digit fap count a day
>not impressed or surprised

k
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>>28419645
Protip: If you're on 4chan, you're probably on a watchlist. According to the Snowman, everyone is on a watch list for something or another. Watch lists kinda become useless when you have millions of random people on them for stupid reasons. Buying fertilizer is not all that suspicious. I can practically guarantee that you have purchased "suspicious" chemicals in the past without realizing it. It's likely that you're already on a list for shit that you never even thought about.
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>>28419355
Than in that case he should just use the ammonium nitrate to make anfo and make a detonator.
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>>28419729
For the low velocity add antimony trisulfide around 2% should be enough. You'll have to play around with it a bit.
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Once mixed the shelf life of flash powder ( which tannerite is ) in a tightly sealed no oxy dry enviroment is 3-6months.

But the problem is it can become sensitive or insensitive depending on the mix
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Why is tannerite legal if it's literally explosives?
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>>28419822
I buy a lot of stump remover.....
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>>28420019
>tannerite
>flash powder
Lol, no.
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>>28420030
It isnt an explosive.... Until mixed.


There is no federal law about transporting ingredients.

Or else thousands and thousands of chemicals in everyday use whould have to be tracked and regulated.
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>>28420049
But it is explosive once its mixed

Isnt it then an illegal destructive device
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>>28420030
Because it's legal for US citizens to make explosives as long as they destroy them on the same day at the same location etc. etc.
It's not considered an explosive until you mix it. The individual components are totally legal to own and all that.

>>28420061
No. A destructive device is a destructive device. You can buy gunpowder legally, but if you pack it into a pipe and screw the caps on with a fuse, it's an illegal grenade.
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>>28420061
No. It's a reactive target...
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>>28420041
Actually it is.

In pyrotechnics a flash powder is any metallic fuel and an oxidizer.


In tannerite

The metallic is aluminium and the oxidizer is ammonium nitrate.


It is much more stable than say. Perchlorate based mixes.

But it is still a flash powder mix.
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>>28419492
A nethack reference?
You sir, win the internet for the night
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>>28420085
>>28420098
I see

So if you made a box filled with mixed tannerite and saved it, that would be illegal.

It can only be set off with a gunshot right?
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>>28420161
Yes.

Other high energy impacts can set it off too. Or a detonator
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>>28420202
So it really is the best most legal way to make bombs

Interdasting. How is the yield?
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>>28420231
No
Unless you have a FEL making bombs is illegal.

The yeilds are shit. If they were good isis would be using tannerite not Acetone Peroxide for their bombs
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>>28420288
But AN is a common component in IEDs. The IRA used it as grenade filler.
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>>28420288
It's a bomb though right? It has a case and explodes.

>yield is shit
How much would you need to make an equivalent to a 120mm shell?

Is there a legal way with bigger yield for a similar price?
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>>28420333
>It's a bomb though right? It has a case and explodes.
No. If it was considered a bomb it would be a destructive device. Read up on the various definitions for clarification.
Fireworks are explosives with some kind of casing as well.
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>>28420333

Spotted the BATFE Agent.....
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>>28420346
I see

>>28420351
I am not atf lel, merely interested in things that go boom
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>>28420316
AnFO is a better choice.

Use Acetone peroxide as a primary to detonate the anfo.

Use the tannerite to initiate the acetone peroxide.

Why you making a bomb.
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>>28420288
Well that and compounds that are shock sensitive or heat sensitive, instead of requiring shock and heat together are hot garbage for fighting. Do you really want your car bomb to go off before it reaches the target because of a lucky rifle shot?
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>>28419408
I like this
This is actually possible
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>>28420288
How hard is it to get an FEL? Is "fun" an acceptable reason to apply for one? I don't mind paying.
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>>28420351
You spotted the wrong one...

Shhhh
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>>28420369
>Use the tannerite to initiate the acetone peroxide.
Lol, what. TATP is insanely sensitive. It will go off if you drop it on the ground or touch it with a lit match. Tannerite is far less sensitive than TATP.
Using TATP for anything is ill advised. As far as I know, it isn't used in any professional or legitimate military capacity, and I don't think it ever was.
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>>28420379
You need to have a magazine that meets the requirements.

Then it is just like an ffl application.

Get a b license. Start a stump and obstacle removal business.

Fill out papaer work.
Get visit from feds.
They will inspect your magazine.

If you pass the backgrounds they will issue your FEL.
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It seems tannerite is suitable to my purposes according to this thread

Thank you anons. I just need to experiment with yields now.
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>>28420379
You don't need a FEL to make explosives for non-commercial use and the ATF will be reluctant to give you one.
An FEL also has little to do with making destructive devices i.e most bombs.
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>>28420435
Magazine?
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>>28420467
He means clip
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>>28420487
lel....I see what you did there
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>>28420414
Tatp has not been used in military applications. Because it is so sensative.

But it has been used in paramilitary and terrorist groups because it is easy to make.

You can make it less sensative. But yeah it is a ticking time bomb. But it works great as an initiator for less sensative mixes like ANFO.

Iive made 5gal of ando. Filled a glass graduated cylinder in the center of the bucket with TATP, closed the lid. And place a 1lb of tannerite on top of it. Centered on the TATP.


Made a nice boom when hit from 300yrds with a 300wm.
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>>28420456
Well what can I make legally for funsies? Can a crank out a few pipe bombs for fun or am I limited to tannerite and thermite?
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>>28420467
A place where you store explosives
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does adding oxidized iron powder to tannerite affect it in anyway?
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>>28420508
Can I
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>>28420520
Ah ok. That is doable.
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>>28420467
Yea a magazine.


As in a container for the storage of explosives.

A FEL is the only reliable way to get access to detonators and stable compounds used in comercial blasting.

No reputable comapny will deal with you if you dont have one.

The display pyro and special effects company I worked with for 10 years had a FEL.
Why? Because we used blasting caps all the time. ( bullet effects)
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>>28418407
Yes the ammonium nitrate will clump and become inert as soon as it is exposed to moisture in the air.

Furthermore storage and transportation of explosives is illegal
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>>28420508
No you can not make pipe bombs for fun.

Stick with tannerite in a field

>>28420525 no.
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>>28420559
>Yes the ammonium nitrate will clump and become inert as soon as it is exposed to moisture in the air
Jesus, what do you people think it is, some kind of super sponge? The AN is exposed to air when the customer goes to mix it in the first place. If it's left exposed to air for a long period of time, it will absorb moisture. A few minutes isn't going to make any difference.
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>>28420538
You have to construct them to very specific storage requirements and zoning laws. Your shed is not passing
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>>28420596
I assumed so. Have a link to the requirements? If not I can google.
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What happens if you mix Tannerite with Thermite and make it go boom?
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>>28420508
Legally?

Assuming I read the law right, any explosive that is not a nuclear or chemical weapon in any quantity you so desire.

As long as you use it within 24 hours and make it on site.
>I cannot predict local or state ordnances prohibiting the use or possession of explosives, this is strictly federal law
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>>28420681
see
>>28420525
>>28420573
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>>28420538
You say that like there are not books of regulation controlling every aspect of a magazine and its construction.


The easiest... A type 2 or type 5 portable magazine.

A shipping container with a 2 inch pine floor and double 5/8 drywal. The door at one end welded shut.

And the entire container painted red.

Mounted on a concrete slab, remote from any inhabbited structures, and marked with a placard ( mounted at an angle. )
And protected by barricades of earth or. Of thick concrete walls.


Lastly the entire structure must resist a round of M2 ball from 100ft fired perpendicular to the wall of the magazine.

So some times you need to weld1/4 steel to the container if it isnt a thick enough wall.
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>>28420691
>make a tannerite pipe bomb
>wave it around in front of the DNR for 23 hours
>blow it up because its still legal
>make them suck my cock
Is this doable?
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>>28419729
7 parts German grey and 3 parts potassium perchlorate with a touch of sulfer for extra sensitive
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>>28420729
No.
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>>28420729
Specifically no because you put it in a pipe, and you threatened people with it.
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>>28420729
No your threating someone with a bomb.

You will be arrsted as a terrorist.
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>>28419505
so i guess you could say your friend has an explosive temper?
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>>28420787
>>28420804
I didnt threaten anyone though. I just pushed the envelope.

What does it matter that its in a pipe?
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>>28420820
You put it in a fragmentation vessel.

That explicitly states intent to cause injury.
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>>28420820
I dont think you understand the difference between an explosive and a bomb.

One is a tool the other is a weapon.
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>>28420868
Pipes are very secure method of ensuring nothing but intent sets off the internal tannerite.

If i put ball bearings around the pipe that would be different
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>>28419505
What the fuck? Pistols shouldn't activate tannerite in the first place, especially if it isn't detonated by rifle calibers
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>>28420896
No... It wouldnt be.
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>>28420896
5 hour energy, or 20 oz soda bottles work just as well and less dangerous
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>>28419786
"400 mesh" is the number you're looking for
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>>28420868
As a follow on: I use anfo and an-al (tannerite) legally and legitimately to clear log jams out of a creek that runs through my family's farm.

I mix everything on site. I use a hammer drill and a half inch drill bit to bore a hole in the logs, insert a (made onsite, homemade) electric blasting cap, then fill with the explosive mixture. Retreat to safe distance, complete circuit, watch logs splinter.
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>>28420945
Then saran wrap marbles to the outside?
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>>28420928
The guy didnt have it mixed well. . im betting ther was a well mixed section At the top.
Whe. He shot it with a pistol he was shooting down on that well mixed part.

Also the reason he didnt get hurt as bad as he should have. The a&b were not well mixed.
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>>28420936
Even a PVC pipe? Is it anything metal illegal?

>>28420945
That's a good point...probably cheaper too
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>>28419439
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>>28420777
>>28419984
>>28419774
The amateur pyro forum guys say 10% Al (German Black), 5% Su (ground yellow), 85% AN (standard pellet), for rimfire (40 grain 1000 fps) sensitivity.
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>>28420972
Any pressure vessel reasonably expected to throw fragments large enough to cause injuries would probably be considered a bomb.
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>>28420949
That's the one. Thank you anon.
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>>28421022
So anything that is metal and enclosed basically
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>>28420951
I'd especially make sure you're legally good on this one. You're doing exactly what ole Timmy does in Afghanistan.
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>>28420030
'MURICA
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>>28421053
There's plenty of vids on YouTube of folks using it on beaver dams and for tree removal.
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>>28421008
listed mine backwards.
Should be 7 parts KCLO4 to 3 parts German with 1 part sulpher.

Which is close to what you have listed. .

In pro pyro we dont use a stoichiometrically balanced mix, which would be 3 parts KCLO4 to 8 parts german gray.
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>>28421053
I have.

Any big jobs I ask the Sheriff to supervise.

Since he likes blowing shit up too he usually does. Occasionally I'll even get some 'assistance' in the form of the Fire Marshal, Sheriff, 2 deputies, and the 'bomb squad' trailer (a horse trailer with hazmat placards) bringing out some TNT sticks.

Fuck black locust trees btw.
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>>28420951
It seems like simple mixing up tannerite, putting it on top of the logs, and nuggeting it from a distance would be easier.
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>>28418407
#1 - need to detonate within 24h of mixing, else you need an FEL and magazine.
#2 - the aluminum powder oxides quickly in open air.
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>>28419786
why the fuck would an arts and craft store of aluminum powder?

what do normal people even use it for?
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>>28421090
And much less effective.
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>>28421080
Doesn't change the fact that an-al mixed with anfo is the most used IED mixture. Especially adding in you make your own blasting caps. If the government decided they didn't like you you'd have no chance.
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>>28421109
It is used in paints and pottery
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>>28421090
Wont cut the log, just make a lot of noise.

Hell back in the day when my grandpa was buying dynamite over the counter he was still having to pack sticks in bore holes, and dynamite is literally nitroglycerin soaked into something wrapped in wax paper.
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>>28421109
I would assume mixing their own paints. Or colored pencils.
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>>28421109
Making paint and polishing embossed paper.
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>>28421109
Models and other art stuff.
They also carry iron oxide powder, used in paints, pottery, and thermite.
Also cobalt and other heavy metals that can be used as poisons or fire coloring.
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>>28421115
Thats true of literally anything though.
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>>28421109
For mixing paint used as a pigments
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>>28421143
That "something" is Fuller's Earth, AKA oil dry.
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>>28421115
Innocent until proven guilty, right?
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>>28421143
I see.

What's your recipe for homemade blasting caps?
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>>28421090
Explosive forces generally have to be contained to be effective. If I were to lay a stick of c4/dynamite whatever, on the ground, sure it'd blow a hole, but it wouldn't do much cause all the explosive force is going up, into the open air. Now if I was to dig a hole, drop the explosive in it, and tamp it real good (Pack dirt around it) then the hole it would make would damn near be three times the size.
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>>28421174
Depends on who made it and when.

Way back when it was plain old sawdust.
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>>28421185
Potassium perchlorate in a .223 brass, crimp the mouth and seal a model rocket ignitor through the enlarged flash hole with RTV sealant.

The perchlorate takes fucking forever to make but will set anything off, and the detonators fit down my half inch bore holes nicely.
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>>28421228
You could try wrapping ETN in aluminum foil.
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I hate working with dynamite.

The nitroglycerin gives me headaches.

We only use it as a booster if we dont have cast boosters. ( austin powders orange caps)
To set off anfo.


I did a lot of road blasts, and some contract work with mines ans snaller quarries
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>>28421228
Next time mix a little sugar in it. The cap will go off much quicker.
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>>28421298
Never made ETN, will give it a look. How hard is it, and is it something that can be done safely on a tailgate?

I prep the casings for my detonators well ahead of time and only mix the actual explosives on site. Usually do 50 at once since they fit nicely in the plastic .223 ammo boxes, and since the yield of perchlorate is enough for about 15 detonators I usually use 2 per hole and typically have to blow the log in a couple different places.
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>>28421328
I use a 12v ATV battery as the initiator, they go off instantly as is.
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>>28421365
Not that hard, although you might want to keep some ice around.

When ETN meets aluminum, in foil form or powder form, it becomes way more sensitive to heat and shock. Nobody has any idea why this is. Other than that, it's essentially the same as its cousin PETN, except Erythritol is easier to find than Pentaerythritol.
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>>28421365
How / what type of crimp?
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>>28421397
I should clarify, electric shock, not physical shock.
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>>28421410
Very carefully smash the mouth shut with linemans pliers that have electrical tape on the jaws. Its fast and violent enough you dont have to create a pressure vessel, just keep it in.
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>>28420508
>>28420729
>>28420804
>>28420807
>>28420868
>>28420691


listen dipshit, there are 2 seperate laws that control what you're proposing

the first law governs explosives and chemicals, and the second law governs devices that launch, amplify, direct, and/or initiate the explosives/chemicals in such a way as to cause injury or death.

explosives have a very legitimate purpose in everyday life, and the government understands that, they just want to keep kids, terrorists, and morons like you from easy access...but you can play with a few things here and there and skirt pretty close to felony territory without arousing the mighty hammerdick of pounding-in-the-ass federal prison.

destructive devices are a whole 'nother fucking ballgame and are expensive as fuck and hard to obtain. They are for serious collectors and people that know what they're doing.

you obviously dont.

so stay the fuck away from my fucking hobby before you blow your tits off and they regulate my toys harder
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>>28421375
Yeah... Thats a lot more juice then my handheld box delivers.
Try ptfe and 25% by weight al.

It is a good mix for caps.

For more stubborn explosives pack cap with ptfe/al for 3/4 and picric acid for the last 1/4.
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>>28420131
pls go
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>>28421492
fag
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>>28420951
>homemade blasting cap

you do the black powder in the drinking straw with a wire thing?
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>>28421497
>ptfe
Teflon?
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>>28421497
Picric acid and humidity dont like each other.

I blow log jams only once or twice a year, but theyre monster clusterfucks. I use the ATV battery because I need my truck and ATV to get me and all my tools down there to work on it.
>for every day of blasting is at least four of chainsaw work so the logs actually go somewhere when theyre blown free

Erosion sucks
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>>28421492
wew, lad. lets calm down and quit pretending that blowing stuff up is difficult or almost illegal.
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>>28421567
Picric acid and humidity love each other.... That just makes it crapy for what your doing because you need because damp picric wont detonate reliably.

>>28421551
Yes powdered Teflon.

It is an energetic polymer.
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>>28421228
You can just buy Potassium Perchlorate online on amazon or ebay or pyro sites, you don't have to make it
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>>28421567
Oh trust me i know. The blasting is 30 seconds of easy. The rest of the work is what sucks.


Do you know how much it sucks to do a road cut?

Its a week of drilling and clearing trees.
A day of explosive prep.

5seconds of blasting

1 week of haul away
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357 case and a rosette crimp die....
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>>28419768
Ut also needs a bit of charcoal mixed in the Al to prevent oxidation.
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>>28421689
German dark aluminum has charcoal already
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>>28420288
AN is suposedlyan excellent filler, because, above a certain point, it will detonate at the same velocity as the primary/initiator. Regardless of quantities.
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>>28421623
blowing stuff up is neither difficult or illegal.

its not blowing yourself up thats difficult and making items that assist the explosions that is illegal
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>>28421702
He was discussing producing his own by grinding aluminum.
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>>28421724
Its a shitty filler because it needs a fairly high initiation ratio.

Too much AN based explosive with 1 detonator and you get a small explosion that throws the rest of your explosive everywhere.
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>>28421801
It does have its uses though. Its low detonation velocity makes it an excellent excavation explosive, and its cheap and safe to handle.

A lot of road and quarry blasting is done with slurry ANFO for these reasons.
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>>28419816
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>>28421655
Well, fuck. Ive been making it myself since before the internet existed since there isnt a local source and just never looked.

Thanks.
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>>28421801
We use anfo for road cuts but we use cast booster with it. Never just anfo alone.


One of my professors way back in college was developing anso. An+ soy oil. For use as a green explosive. For doing work in areas that had environmental issues with the use of fuel oil.
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>>28421492
Fufufufu..found the faggot
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https://www.atf.gov/file/58741/download

Suggested reading for anyone dabbling in homemade booms. Of particular interest is the questions and answers section starting on page 59.
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>>28419729
>powdered Al that's hard to get
paint stores sell it
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>>28420974

am i going to jail
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For the anon that wants to wave a pipe not-a-bomb around as a protest.

Can I suggest that a sealed pipe full of stable explosive, and nothing else with no means of actually detonating it wouldn't probably be classed as a bomb.
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>>28423605
But then again you might as well wave an empty pipe around for the same effect.
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Would vacuum sealing the mixed tannerite in something like a food saver help with the moisture absorbency issues?
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>>28418432
Saw the mythbusters episode last week. It can't explode in a car crash.
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>>28424201
I've "molded" it into 6" × 1" round pucks using a 2 piece mold with black mylar vacuum sealed bags. Worked pretty well. Never stored them, though.
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>>28424922
Doesn't make it any less illegal.
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>>28425316
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>>28420928
at 2 feet, maybe it was enough
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>>28421109
>Michael's Munitions Emporium when?
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>>28419355
>>28419408
>>28420376
>>28420508
Have fun with your felony offense for producing a destructive device.
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>>28427175
>not Mackerals Munitions

>shygdd this in the current year
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>>28422072
isnt school back in session yet
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>>28421492
>new copy pasta
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>>28419631
SaigaMarine still trying to get us jailed. Buddyfucker.
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>>28423545
Only if you're a retard with it
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>>28419816
Your dick must be one huge callous void of any nerve endings. Are your blind and how hairy are your palms?
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>>28418407
Just microwave it.
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>>28428256
>>28430233
Jesus what.
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Alright tards
You ideally want 34-0-0 AN
If it's prilled, it's probably coated with a fire resistant material
For best effect, grind the AN in a dedicated blender that has never seen organic material ever
Mix at a 10% weight ratio with aluminum powder that has a mesh size of at least 400. 1000 is optimal.
Pack tightly inside a container that will not easily rupture. Baggies and Tupperware may work occasionally, but harder containers exponentially increase the reliability
Calculate your NEW and figure out your standoff using a respectable K factor
Don't die
Don't build a bomb
Attaching an ignition source will land you in prison
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>>28430226
It would probably work just fine because of muh percussion detonation but fuck... best do that in a microwave that you don't like too much.
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>>28423497
I can get 100 lbs of 34-0-0 for 40 bucks.

10 lbs German Black is harder to find and more expensive.
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>>28420951
>insert a (made onsite, homemade) electric blasting cap
How exactly do you make one? How do you set it off? I'll be buying a chunk of land in a bit, and I know there'll be stumps to remove.
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>>28430933
Do not
Do this
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>>28420590
On a humid day with powdered AN, you'd be surprised what a few minutes can do. I've come back to a mortar full of water before. Prill form is less susceptible but i think some are coated for this reason.
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>>28421228
Perchlorate... and an ignitor... for a detonator?

Absolute bullshit. Potassium perchlorate is just an oxidizer. Not explosive without fuel. An ignitor would do nothing. Ammonium perchlorate can be explosive but is incredibly insensitive.
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Damn this thread makes me miss roguesci
RIP
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>>28420124
Show me a flash powder exploding half a dozen boar.
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Its a simple formula

(Distance to target in feet/bullet speed in ft/s)+time it takes to setup and shoot in seconds.
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Anyone ever add powdered sugar/diesel to their tannerite?

I have heard that either will make it significantly better, but I don't trust fudds with chemistry.
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>>28419492
Ho...ly...shit. Now I feel REALLY old.
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>>28420505
>Shooting tannerite to initiate TATP

Why? The acetone peroxide is a primary explosive. Almost anything will set it off.

Rig up a cable leading to a chandelier bulb with gunpowder (nitrocellulose) inside and complete the circuit when it's time.
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>mix in old dip cans
>seal with wax
>place wherever you want a small boom
>use within 24 hours
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>>28421365
ETN(C4H6N4O12)-VOD- 8,000-8,100/sec
RE Factor- 1.6
Also Called- Erythritol Tetranitrate
Synthesis- ETN is made by nitrating erythritol through the mixing of concentrated sulfuric acid and a nitrate salt. Ammonium nitrate is commonly used for this type of reaction. (Potassium nitrate and drano can work) The erythritol is added to the mixture to begin its nitration.
The Problem- The availibility of erythritol(C4H10O4) is the question. Where can i find it? Are there any alternate synthesis routes involving less easy-to-find reagents to find than erythritol itself? How about the direct synthesis of it?
Brief Explosive properties- Long shelf-life.One quality this explosive has, that PETN does not, is a positive oxygen balance. Having a positive oxygen balance means that ETN possesses more than enough oxygen in its structure to fully oxidize all of its carbon and hydrogen upon detonation. This can be seen in the equation below.
C4H6N4O12 → 4 CO2 + 3 H2O + 2 N2 + ½ O2
Whereas PETN decomposes to:
C5H8N4O12 → 3 CO2 + 2 CO + 4 H2O + 2 N2

Hexamine is widely commercially available and if nitrated will give RDX.
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>>28421397
>Keep some ice around

I'm assuming you intend to imply that this reaction should occur in an ice bath the same way one would make nitroglycerin?
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>>28424201
Yes. Also look into diatomicous earth to act as a dessicant. It's sold as a powdered bug killer similar to borax. Shits a powerful water remover.
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>>28428256
>Dat filename.
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>>28430933
See
>>28435437
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>>28435582
Except fill the light bulb with TATP or mercury fulminate or any other primary explosive.
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>>28418432
This. Not only transport but storage as well, unless you have the proper explosives permits.

To answer your question, the mixed explosive should have the same shelf life as the ammonium nitrate component alone. If you keep it dry and sealed, it should be good for years. Expose it to moisture or humidity and it'll go bad in short order.

But regardless, the hazards associated with storing live high-explosive materials aren't something you should take lightly. Just look at the Forestal fire as an example of how fucking hazardous this shit can be.
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This has been a good thread, lads.
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>>28435645
All wrapped up in a bow for Lynch and Obummer...
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