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You are suddenly dropped into the middle of the battle of Stalingrad. The battle is at it's peak and the fighting in the city is fierce, the Russians cling to the edge of the Volga.

You must survive the battle whilst staying inside the city, until the 6th Army is encircled and destroyed in the open Steppe. Only then can you return home to the present day.

Before you begin your time travel escapade you have three options to choose from which will help you survive...

>Option A: You have a platoon of crack Waffen SS soldiers for your protection, they have been on the Eastern Front since June 22nd 1941 and are experienced in the harsh realities of combat on the Eastern Front. They are equipped with the weaponry of the time period. You are unarmed.

>Option B: You have a squad of modern day British SAS at your disposal, they number 8 men. They have all the training of a modern day special forces unit, but are equipped with appropriate weaponry for the time period. You are unarmed.

>Option C: You go it alone. You are lost in the ruins of Stalingrad with no protection, but there is a catch. You have access to all modern day weapons and personal equipment, M4s, plate carriers, night vision. Are you operator enough to survive?
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>>28403983
>You have access to all modern day weapons and personal equipment
Even nukes?
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Probably B
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I'll go alone and get the fuck out of Stalingrad until they're done

Fuck that shit seriously
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>>28403983

A is best.

36 bodies is way better than the 8 you'd get with option B especially when they all have roughly the same equipment. The SAS training may be better, but their tactics are formed around the capability of current gear. Without their modern day tools they'd largely be as effective as anyone else.
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I'll take a ski patrol of Finns.
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If I have as much time as it took me to think about it before I leave, I will make a note saying

>Mы бopeмcя зa вac c coюзникaми и cтaли oтдeляютcя oт нaших cил . Mы хoтим , чтoбы пoмoчь Coвeтcкий Coюз бopьбы cвoих фaшиcтcких yгнeтaтeлeй , пoжaлyйcтa, нaм кoмaндиpy , чтoбы oтвeтить нa любыe вoпpocы , вы мoжeтe имeть .

and find the nearest Soviet soldiers with my hands raised and speaking loudly and clearly in english.

Provided the SAS are in full uniform and carrying identification I will get them to help me figure out a way to bullshit the Russians until the siege breaks.
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>>28403983
C. Night vision, flir, silencers, ya if you played it smart you couldn't be stopped.
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>>28403983
C
If you know German or Russian you should be good
>not wanting to solid sank
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>>28404095
This.
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>>28404044

This

Seriously drop me on that nice and cozy western front instead where people actually surrender

Fuck the east
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fuck being unarmed like a cuck.
i choose option c with a suppressed 16 inch recce rifle, leupold mark 6 1-6 with armasight clip on thermal. atlas bipod. 77 grain smk's. suppressed glock 21. im operating on faggots until they bring the artillery down on me.
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>>28404080

SAS will have the best survival skills though, for catching food and finding clean water option B is best.
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>Find red army
>Bring weapons of technological wonder to the Red Army
>Take multiple copies, cause I know they will fuck up the first ones
>Russians then crush Germany with their super weapons
>Global Gommunism :DDDD
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>>28404316
Are u me?
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>>28404357
>tfw born in the wrong timeline
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Option C with full armor and an ar with 1000 hollow points, night vision and all the best survival gear
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>>28404320

Enjoy getting steamrolled by a thousand angry Ivans because you only have 8 rifles to defend your perimeter.
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Option C with F-35. I turn on stealth mode so no one can see me while I spend the rest of the battle watching anime and catching up on emulated video games.
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>>28405709
>implying Stalingrad's WiFi wouldn't be horrendous and laggy as fuck
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A.

Sterben für den Führer
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>Only then can you go back home.
>implying I would want to leave this place
>ever
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>>28407671
Have fun dying at Kursk, if you make it even that far
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>>28407696
>not wanting to die in the greatest fucking war ever
>even if you die a poor retarded slav

What's wrong with you, anon?
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>Choose B
>Locate Red Army officer and inform him we are British, and thus his allies, and (somehow) ended up in a Soviet city
>Request to meet with an ambassador to the UK to arrange a safe haven until we can be sent back to jolly old England
>Get shot in face by Nagant revolver because the Commissar you are talking to is drunk, angry, and cannot understand English
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>>284108lol
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>>28405709

Until you run out of fuel in a few hours
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A is a good way to get killed. Aside from language barriers, there's a good guarantee that they'll kill me for either being dead weight or suspicion for working with the enemy. With B, I get to work with people that could understand my language and guarantee my survival and escape from the city, I just gotta follow their lead and trust their experience. C is pretty seductive to me, because I would like to introduce some American calibers to the eastern front and have some protection from the ones already being used, but I don't know shit that's in and about Stalingrad, and both sides will kill me for sure with little questioning.
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B the SAS dudes are probably going to be a much better bet of getting the fuck out of Stalingrad and over to Turkey or something so we don't get gutted by slav scum or nazi piggus. I'm sure as fuck not getting out myself I'm only a passable marksman and have the survival skills of a chick out the egg and the SS dudes aren't going to want to accompany me out.
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>>28404095

Stick with the Germans. At least they won't change sides halfway through the battle.
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>>28403983
option C
only you have to stay in the city
so you can take any moderen, 60ies or 70 ies gear puls shit loads of data on a laptop and extra hard drives.
then just hope you can link up to your army of choice and change the face of history buy getting all that dank tech and other info out of that shithole.
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>>28403983
Option C

Make my way to german command and explain my story, get sent to leaders and tell them everything I can remember, help the reich win the war, be sent back to my time a national hero
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>>28412147
>put shit loads of date on a laptop and extra hard drives
And plug it into what? Fucking idiot.
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>>28403983
a)
Waffen SS die just as easy as anyone else.
Aditionally, there were no Waffen-SS at Stalingrad, but that just me being persnickity.

b) Brtish SAS die just as easy as anyone else.

c) You'll die just as easy as anyone else.

Pro-tip: you, the waffen ss and the SAS are most likely going to be killed by shrapnel/arty/mortars/katyushas/bombs, not small arms.
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>>28412147
Also your grammar and spelling gave me cancer.
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>>28412185
Not a bad idea but how do you plan on speaking with the leaders without getting shot? Be it during your approach or execution, it's worth keeping in mind that the soldiers there will be under high pressure and likely feeling a little trigger happy.

Also do you actually have anything to offer them or just tell them what they're missing out on and what it looks like and expect them to know how to build it?
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I choose Virginia-class sub and ride out the shitstorm underneath the Volga.
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>>28412249
>Waffen SS die just as easy as anyone else.
Actually the Waffen SS suffered a lot higher attrition rate on average than regular Heer divisions.
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>>28412399
My point was more that they're just people and people and no amount of training/zeal/motivation etc etc will stop shrapnel killing you.
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>>28412399
>Actually the Waffen SS suffered a lot higher attrition rate on average than regular Heer divisions.
Sorta like the attrition rates between regular Seals and SF.
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>>28411189
a few hours is all youd need to get somewhere safe like finland or some british controlled area in asia.
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>>28403983
>Speak fluent German
>take option C
>get stuffed with gear
>run to the closest German headquarters
>tell them I'm a time traveler
>proof it with the gear
>turn all my gear in for reverse engineering
>get shot in a trench by an SS cleanup squad
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B
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>>28403983
Option A. Find a weapon and fight with my SS brothers. Anything else would be heresy and the Fuhrer would have my head.
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>>28410861
Five outta five.
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>>28412211
They did in fact have electricity in the 40s...
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>>28404106
Whats the moon runes say?
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>>28404095
The best option tßh
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>>28407620
>>28412612

This, A.

No intent to survive, only to do my duty for Fuehrer, Volk, and Vaterland, and take as many Bolshevik savages with me as possible.
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>>28404118
How much ammo exactly will you be carrying?
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>>28415145
....no shit sherlock.
They didn't have the correct plugs or voltage though.
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>>28415432
Jesus fuck, on a level of 1 to fucking potato how useless do you have to be to not be able to connect a laptop to a suitable charging source?

Have you never spliced power cables before?
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>>28415432
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schuko

Dates from the mid 1920s.
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All these posters breaking the OPs rules about staying in that shithole till february.

Anyway, option c. Keeping anymore than yourself fed would be hard. Staying warm with 21 century clothing would make the cold less of an issue.
With night vision you could move at night to find food and maneuver to hopefully quieter parts of the city.
Weaponry is prolly the least important of all the things you could bring with you to that debacle. The elements and lack food would kill you first
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>>28415325
The only good Bolsheviki is a dead one and they don't kill themselves fast enough
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>>28410639
>What's wrong with you
I just really fucking like being alive, and I enjoy my life enough to not see dying in WWII as a fair trade.
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>>28415584
>Have you never spliced power cables before?
Not him, but I know Jack shit about electronics. I still basically see electricity and batteries as being magic.
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Option C
An ar15 with aimpoint, can, light, and peq box
A plate carrier
A bump helmet with nods.
Dark blue/grey uniform
Travel only at night, get as far out of the city as I can
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>>28412528
Except for the part where the Waffen SS weren't anything special and did the same roles as regular divisions, just worse.
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>>28412386
>not based Ohio class sub

>>boomer subs über alles nukes fer everybody.
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>>28415357
Thousands o rounds of .17 Hornet Magnum.
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>>28403983
I'll take B if I can handle the bantz. The main problem will be food and supplies.

Once I get out, find Stauffenberg and make sure he does the job right, then help Germany as much as possible technologically (semiconductors, etc)

Use my position to advocate for an alliance with America.
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C. Night vision would increase your odds significantly. 10,000 civilians survived the battle. many women were prostitutes for food. wish there was some stalingrad porn made, I'd fap.
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I wish the germans had 50 bmg and scoped rifles. Could of easily disabled all the landing craft and some off shore arty.
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>Only know Korean and English
Shit
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>>28403983
Option C. Get some FLIR + Gen 3, good winter gear, material to build a good urban ghillie, and slowly get the fuck out of the combat zone.
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>>28419791

combat zone (the city limits) is surrounded by 300 miles of nothing controlled by opposing armies. good luck. :)
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>>28419791
Some half staved Russian conscript will probably trip over you at some point, curse, and shoot you in the face by accident.

Or artillery will paste you out of nowhere with no chance of evasion or survival.
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>>28419814
Keyword, Slowly. I know the radius was easily 300 miles, that's why it's going to take up to two weeks to safely make my way out of the AO.
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>>28419791

city itself is 30 square miles.

>>28419820

yeah if they see your muzzle flash its game over.
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>>28419820
Then we're all pretty much just running in the rain at that point then huh? Slow and steady with enough patience and haste and you should be able to avoid dying to random shrapnel pinata.
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>>28419791
There are probably so many snipers watching all of the shit for minuscule movements you'll get shot just by twitching.
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>>28419883
Travel by night. Avoid recently fought over areas. Be aware of your surroundings. Listen. Do you not have any ability to take initiative and think about how you'd survive? Why is this hard for you?
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>>28419883
Yeah, because they'll definitely be on the lookout for rocks slithering through rubble at night and not a company of SS or squad of SAS operators.
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Choose C and give weapons to the germans
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If I'm sticking to the rules of the post by staying inside the city until the end of the battle, then I'd choose B.

I'd convince the SAS lads to try and stay alive in the city with me for as long as we could, it's also easier in numbers and I'm sure there'd be food and supplies we could scavenge. The SAS will have training in this as oppose to me knowing fuck all. We could probably find some good condition abandoned building to take refuge in and use as living space, preferably somewhere on the outskirts which won't get hit by arty.
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>>28407620
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>>28417494
Except for the part where Waffen SS ware the most elite fighting force that walked on the face of this planet
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>>28420203
> I'm sure there'd be food and supplies we could scavenge
> In Stalingrad
> We could probably find some good condition abandoned building to take refuge
> On Eastern Front
> Outskirts which wont get hit by arty
> In Russia
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>>28415280
I'll suck everyone's dicks like a vacuum cleaner if you don't kill me.
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>>28403983

Pick C

Take two dufflebags of PVS 14s and batteries, along with a few history books on Soviet military troop movements and composition, along with some textbooks on how to make remote controls, rocketry and the blueprints for the AKM. Give it to the Germans in exchange for my safety. I like alternate history. Best case the Germans still lose WW2 after destroying the Soviet Union. I can live with making that change in history.
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>>28419791
>>28419814
>>28419835
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>>28403983
Waffen SS platoon size in later eastern front was what like 30 people ? Whats the size of SAS squad ?
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>>28412123
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>>28403983
you have to survive, not fight
that's your real advantage

me and my SS buddies are finding an out of the way place and digging a really big hole somewhere where we won't get shelled so badly

and we're going to stay in that hole
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>>28404469
Better dead than red you fucking commie
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>>28407534
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>>28403983
>Option D: Blow my own brains out
Seriously, fuck fighting in that hellhole on the German side, my odds of surviving are pretty much 0 so I may as well get it over with quickly
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>>28419820
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schuko
Most likely, he will blown up by a mine somewhere in the woods.
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>>28420993
That's not even remotely true.
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>>28422454
lol ok
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>>28422562
wow, believing almost 100 year old propaganda
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>>28422308
You mean he will be electrocuted because lol no ground?
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>>28422637
Yeah it's not hard to ground something, have you ever worked on wiring in an old house?
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>>28422600
If you're actually denying that the Waffen SS wasn't the most elite of their time, then you are fucking braindead.
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Option C

18 Inch AR-15
-can
-light
-ir designator
-4-12 optic
-1000 rounds 69gn smk

Modern body armor
NVG's
MRE's

If I'm gonna die, I'm dying whilst operating like a mother fucker.
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Alternative question:

If 100 Kommando Spezialkräfte, or insert whatever elite fighting force you want, was attached to the Germany army from the start of the battle, would Germany have won Stalingrad? Yes, modern technology. Unlimited logistics for ammo, batteries, whatever is needed for their modern gear.
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>>28422815

No because artillery and bombers.
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>>28422827

Shoot at scoot in night operations, then fall back to rear areas out of artillery saturation.
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>>28404095
These guys are good in the woods ... but that doesn't mean they know how to fight and survive in a destroyed city.
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>>28421906
It is ironic that we are, "the evil communists", have never had slogans à la "better dead than a capitalist"
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>>28423469
Because being a capitalist is better than being dead faggot
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>>28423477
But anon, its so much better to be red than dead
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>>28415325
good choice /K/amaraden
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>>28403983
You plebs dont know how to do things.

>option
>bring along an M4 SOCOM and a truck full of as much nukes as I can fit
>bust through Russian lines, make it to Moscow
>set up a nuke in the Kremlin
>make it to St. Petersburg and set one up there
>drive back to Moscow, set the rest up there
>look at my brotheren in their eyes as I heil hitla
>detonate nukes as I fire off my only magazine from my M4 as an American flag flies behind me, along side a Swastika, but still higher
>get a blow job from a qt Russian for my last moments on earth
>oh wait
>get teleported back
>Russia isn't even a household name anymore
>its just America
>the nazis are still around, took over britbongistanoland
>mo more commies
>no more cucks
>life is good
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>>28403983
Option c
SCAR H with elcan
Mk 23 with LAM and KAC suppressor
ESEE 6
Garmin GPS
solar mat charger for the Garmin
the closest thing DARPA has to a Crysis nanosuit.
Compound bow
Thermite arrows
R8 my survivability
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>>28423942
>GPS
muh satellites

(though supposedly satellite-less what-you-call-it is being worked on)

Actually, I suppose you could construct local triangulation towers or something... What are we using a single tracking device for anyway?
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>>28424129
Would use it to track elevation and miles traveled if those worked without satellites. Not to try to escape the city but to try to keep a bearing on how far I've gone. Now that I think about it I would probably be better off with a map compassion and pace beads until I found a safe space underground to set up camp. Opinions on the other gear?
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>>28404106
i know it starts with WE WILL but idk about anything else
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>>28423942
no food or winter shelter
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>>28423942
.....killed by random shell splinter you didn't see coming and could do nothing about.
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>>28415584
>durrr you never spliced power cables hurrr
Why the fuck would I have to, I don't buy the wrong cables like a mong.

>>28415801
>finding a nice convenient wall socket amongst the shattered bones of a dead city
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>>28422698
They objectively weren't. I'd pick an elite Heer division anytime.
They ran about the place charging headlong into fights and having to be extracted from them by the regular army in Poland.
They basically got in the way, hogged arms and armor that would have been better spent in the regular army and regularily recieved better treatment due to a bias against the regular military.

The only thing they had going for them was their fanatacism, then again the 90 odd % of Japanese soldiers had that, don't see anyone hailing them as super heroes.
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>>28422838
>nightime stops you getting artyed or bombed
Nope.
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>>28422698
Fallschirmjagers were way better infantrymen, my ignorant amigo.
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>>28423645
>▶
>blow up Moscow
>blow up St. Petersburg
>die
>sit on cloud, harp in hand and watch the Soviets bulldoze the Germans all the way to Berlin using the vast reserves of manpower, armor and manufacturing capacity that aren't in Moscow or St. Perersberg.

Fucking tripfags.
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>>28427509
Not by a much, they got beaten by peasants with farm impliments in Greece.
Aside from a higher esprit de corps, they again, weren't much better than the best Heer units.
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>>28427538
Well, at least on the Western front, they tended to be absolutely saturated with MG42s, Stg 44s, and mortars. An abnormally high amount of mortars.
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>>28404357
>in
stalin would probably put you in jail for being a spy or some other shit
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>>28422637
Seriously?
I have run all my computers on non-grounded outlets for 15+ years.
Worst you are ever gonna notice from it is 115v tingles if you touch bare metal on the computer case and a radiator or something at the same time.

>>28427437
>>finding a nice convenient wall socket amongst the shattered bones of a dead city
Why would you try to plug it in and work in Stalingrad during the battle?
GTFO of there, find whatever nation you want to give the information to, then set up electrical for it once you are well away from the front lines.

Even better, bring a car charger and put together a battery bank to power it.
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>>28403983
C

Find fritz and give my shit to thr germans to reverse engineer

maybe they can keep removing commies till america gets nukes then
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C
Bring an AKM and give it to the soviets. They reverse engineer it and I get food and a place to stay.
Also bring back a good history book to know which places I'll have to avoid.
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>>28404357
>>Find red army
>get shot because you looks like Nazi
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>>28404469
>turns out the whole point of you being time travelled back is so that communism can rule the world. Commie time travel
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Obviously A...
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>>28403983
C.
I like not having frost bite thanks.
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>>28432636
are you the autist, or am i? cause i dont get the joke
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>ITT People have good ideas and others just say muh artillery and muh bombs.
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>>28404106
>>28415280
>>28427347
>we are fighting for you and have been separated from our forces. we want to help the ussr fight off the fascist invaders, we can answer any questions you might have. the last part is broken russian, straight outta google translate. the rest is pretty passable
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>>28432861
I'm also noticing this
> muh shrapnel
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