Hey k, I got my plate carrier in this week so I guess let's have a gear thread?
I know it's supposed to be worn high but to do that I have the straps tightened pretty much all the way; is this right? Also the side buckles are tightened to the max but that makes it hard to put on.
Any tips? It's a shellback banshee btw
This is how tight I have to keep the side clips.
Also why are the side clips held on by Velcro tabs?
Looking for a better medical kit contents.
What pouches are those?
Whatever it takes for you to get the plates here and get them to stay here.
Post a pic of you wearing it
You might want to flip your mags upside down as well.
faulkner my plates got shipped yesterday I can post pictures of my gear soon. I'm I finally operating!?
Almost there, get out there and start shooting in that gear.
>Looking for a better medical kit contents.
ITS Tactical has some good IFAK contents if you're trained up enough to use them.
This is as tight as I can get it, though the weight of the AK mags pulls it forward.
Sadly I have not got plates yet. Can't decide between AR500 for muh multiple hits or ceramic dollar bill stealers
>Sadly I have not got plates yet. Can't decide between AR500 for muh multiple hits or ceramic dollar bill stealers
Ive got a set of armour wear plates, I got out the door for $379 iirc. They are a little hefty but they are IV
what the fuck is this from?
My AK rig is my plate carrier.
My G3 rig is (going to be) a USGI web belt with the suspenders. A mag pouch on each front side, a canteen on each back side with the butt pouch.
I have 2 IFAKs on kit.
On Chest Rig:
BooBoo Kit (bandaids/Tylenol/Motrin/Prep Wipes)
QuickClot Powder packs
I don't remember what pack that is, but give me a sec while I look it up.
Right now it sits high enough. They might hang a little when you finally get plates in, but probably not too much where you need to worry about it.
Also, get ceramics. Don't strap pot metal to yourself. Use something that was actually designed for ballistic protection not an improvised method with less protection.
unfucked my fastmag tabs since this picture, also new watch and boots.
side not i have a spare vortex sparc gen one, im not in the mood to sell it, might have a stupid /k/ontest for it if anyone is interested. totally not an excuse to put my shitty trip back on.
Lung Decompression Pen
Yeah, I've been eyeing those Nutria Brown SADF chest rigs for a while. I probably will end up with one of those or a Blackhawk Commando Chest Rig.
ArmourWear has them for about 379 as >>24317899 stated.
They're gonna be around that much but definitely worth the money to not catch a 30.06 to the chest.
AK pouches are funky, TACOs are gonna be your best bet if you don't mind open-top pouches.
bulletproofme has some stupid cheap level IV plates. They're heavy, but they've got a pretty wide variety of options. Note that multi-hit protection at the extreme low end is going to suffer.
they are ceramic tho
note that they have a fucking stupid back plate profile that doesn't fit anything, so ask for two front plates.
Could put radio(s), nades, medical stuff, hats/gloves, tobacco, candy, drinks and all types of stuff in those pouches. I think you are also implying I have a use for it...ever.
Or this, yeah, this.
no one can be more manlet than me
Gee McNig how come your mom lets you have two IFAKs?
Protip I have banshee and took them off. Not to mention I do the same with issued carriers in the marines. Only use the cummerbund
For the most basic IFAK we would put
>(1) CAT tourniquet
>(1) combat gauze
>(1) H bandage.
This is for our chest rigs but our true IFAK comtents can be found public. If I could add to it I woild put a chest seal but doc is carrying those
No, the cheapest level IVs ($145) are ceramic. AR500 steel plates with 1/3rd the thickness weigh comparably. There is no way those are steel, unless it's some fucking magic.
That being said, I have my doubts about their ability to survive multiple hits. Some of the extremely cheap ceramic plates seem to practically fall apart once shot.
I asked before and never got an answer.
What is a good backpack to go with a chest rig?
I'm considering the D3 Chest Rig/Removable Operator pack combination, but I'd like to know what else is out there.
no gear fag checking in.
I know Condor plate carriers and rigs are awful and should be avoided like the plague, but how are their bags and other miscellaneous stuff? I have a Condor 1-point sling I picked up for really cheap and so far it's been really, really good to me.
cool. I've been thinking of a good way I could justify getting some gear together and I figured a good start would be a good BOB. Condor makes some bags I've been eyeballing with great reviews and good pricing.
Well reviews on Amazon make them out to be okay but /k/ommandos say left and right that you're better off saving an extra $150 or so and buying a better quality one.
Might have to consider one of those as well then.
pic related, my condor sling
I was halfway expecting the bungee section to fall apart after hold the gun up for a few hours but I've been pleasantly surprised
Isn't it safe to assume that if you can afford to get a plate carrier and plates that you should?
I just don't know why you would get a rig instead of a carrier, but then again I'm not that wise on the ways of tacticool.
Depends on a few things,
I strongly advocate a rig and a slick plate carrier if you aren't 100% what you're going to be doing with your set up.
More accurate than you think.
Britbong milfag here. What do you guys use this gear for? Is it purely for SHTF or do you wear it to the range as well for added safety? Are there any other reasons?
Also, with the exception of the US Marines and certain SF guys no military uses plate carriers over body armour. Is the difference purely kevlar to stop spalling and larger covered area?
>What do you guys use this gear for?
Even though I'm not in a line of work where shooting people is a regular occurrence anymore (though that might change again in the future for me) I still see the value in being technically and tactically proficient with firearms as well as still take pleasure in shooting. I don't get nearly as much enjoyment out of just standing/sitting/laying on a firing line and blasting away as I do practicing shooting like my life or the life of someone else depends on it. Shooting very fast and very accurately in both gear and everyday carry is a great affirmation that I can protect myself and others effectively. Will I ever have to again? Maybe, maybe not, but I have fun with it so it's really no burden to put in the time and be good at it.
Additionally, I live in Minneapolis and given what went down in Paris as well as ISIS activity in my city I like having some .mil kit around.
And this isn't recent either, FBI has been scooping terrorists very consistently in this city https://www.google.com/search?q=minneapolis+isis&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
>with the exception of the US Marines and certain SF guys no military uses plate carriers over body armour.
You're wrong, myself and the active duty units I was attached to either wore issued Magnum Plate Carriers or bought our own. I only knew a small handful of people who wore the IOTV.
>Is the difference purely kevlar to stop spalling and larger covered area?
Plate carriers protect the bare minimum but at a high level; the thoracic cavity from the most likely angles of penetration. IOTVs/IBAs protect the whole torso.
Personally, it's a way to be prepared for whatever may happen in the future, and also a way to keep the skills/experience I've gained in the military and not let them go to waste.
2nd or 3rd
TX fag here, I'm not a mil fag or even close. I use my gear in case the happening occurs or the US decides to do to me what Germany did to my grandmother.
Also black people/white trash are a problem. Esés are cool
>no military uses plate carriers over body armor
That is completely, laughably, innaccurate. Hear is a six year old link that took me thirty seconds to find.
We gonna recreate Black Hawk Down?
OP, at first glance, I thought you had a target on your chest.
Yeah, I totally get that and would definitely buy one myself for that reason but unfortunately shooting in the UK is totally static and a bit boring.
Certainly in any European military I've had contact with plate carriers are non-existent. I would think that unless your pouches were mounted really low it would be an issue for firing from the prone position.
If it's around a time when I'm nearby and my schedule permits then of course I'm gonna be there.
I'm gonna be back west eventually. I miss muh desert.
Why I'll still go to draw my pistol even if someone has the drop on me with guns or knives: https://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/07/11/engaging-hezbollah-or-hezbollah-controlled-lebanon/
That sucks. In a few days I'll just set up some targets and blast away in and around my vehicle which I'll drive right up onto my range.
Considering putting together "operator" kits for the Crimson Caravan /k/ store.
Plate Carrier, magazine pouches, pistol mag pouches, gloves, dump pouch etc all in 1 of 3 matching color sets
Might look into ballistic plates too if an affordable bulk supply presents itself.
Surprised to not see more Beez on here. Better than condor for the price.
Would be a fun tiem. Probably North Eastern Arizona around May when the weather is still cool enough.
Would consider buying this for the plate carrier if it's decent enough. I actually didn't hate my Condor plate carrier and wish I hadn't sold it. Please sell something other than Condor though.
>Would consider buying this for the plate carrier if it's decent enough.
It's either going to be a condor or an off brand plate carrier to be honest. Only way to keep the costs down.
I could probably sell this kit for $150 + shipping
>comes with a TQ
A lot of people do overlook that when building a kit.
Well, all I would be using from the package would be the gloves and the plate carrier, since I have everything else. Hell, I haven't even had my plates in a carrier for two years. Just never thought I'd really need them and wanted to force myself to think low-profile. But that would be a great starter kit for lots of people. I would try testing the idea before investing a lot. Maybe thread?
It's Condor, it's already not quite high quality.
I don't actually know if people are just being snobby at them or if the Condor carriers actually fall apart or not. Either way, it seems like a better idea to buy something higher quality and American made that won't fall apart.
Condor is fine, they're just a bit lax on quality control sometimes. I've had no problems with mine, but other people have claimed that they got some mis-sized molle or a couple of frays here and there, but that's about it.
It's a Condor plate carrier as anon here pointed out >>24320132
If you can find another acceptable quality plate carrier for less than $65 please mention it.
The bag as a 3.3 star out of 500 reviews on Amazon. It might not survive a year long deployment in Shitcanistan but it'll hold up in most midterm situations.
>>comes with a TQ
>A lot of people do overlook that when building a kit.
Had to wear one of them in my shoulder pocket for months in Afghanistan, it's something I'll always remember.
From what I've read Condor is like /k/mart to Walmart. Not as well known or established, maybe not as high quality, but the best quality for the price. But I haven't purchased them yet. I intend to give everything a solid work through so I can put my 2cents in before trying to coerce you guys to buy them.
Plates would be an additional $130. That's for two AR500 flat 10inx12in at retail cost with 0% markup. I realize that a lot of /k/ are poorfags, myself included, so I'm trying to put together cheap but decent quality kits that Collegefag anon can afford.
Also putting together some other stuff.
Only have the Ecologist set up at the moment. Comes with an NBC Suit (hood, gloves, boots), Gas Mask, Radiation detection sticker, two multi-tool gadgets (compass, magnifying glass, knife, whistle, thermometer) Potassium Iodide pills (thyroid blockers to reduce radiation absorbtion), ruck sack, rain proof note pad.
It's kind of a STALKER gimmick, but everything included is fully functional.
Probably price it at about $65.00
Might want to look at Beez for cheap and solid carriers.
also, those discounts.
I have a ikea cubby section that I put my gear and gun parts into.
so two plate carriers, belts, my Tent, backpacks and then all my mags and spare gear
>most people don't know how to use a tourniquet
Do you not just secure it tightly above the joint that is closest to the wound? As in, if you are injured in the lower leg, secure the tourniquet just above the knee, etc?
Genuinely interested here, because all I know about tourniquet use is from a Vietnam-era infantry field basics pocket guide my grandpa gave me
No that was Sully. I was the guy that greeted you and thanked you for coming to my meetup.
>You are a gentleman and a scholar. Any idea if you'd know when these kits would be available?
>I'd buy RIGHT NOW if you had them together.
Your enthusiasm and praise are appreciated /k/ommrade. Unfortunately there a lot of moving pieces involved in putting the kits together so they won't be ready until around Mid February.
you can check nuggetfest.com/store and nuggetfest.com/forum for updates
Tourniquet goes 2inches above the wound. Also be aware that tourniquet use can lead to nerve damage and amputation. Though that outcome can be advantageous to bleeding out.
>Just make sure you get mag pouches big enough to accomodate AK/VZ mags, mmkay?
That was the plan. If the ones ordered aren't compatible, alternatives will be obtained.
Mid-February is super reasonable. I'd be more than happy to talk if you wanted some "beta testers" on the gear. I live out in south Alabama and could go run around innawoods to see how well the stuff holds up.
I've been anxious to go and start buying shit but a complete starter pack deal would be perfect.
>STALKER kits, bandit, loner, ecologist, etc
I foresee many, many shekels in your future my friend.
Jesus and hard work m8, im sub 8% body fat, work out almost everyday for ~2 hours, unless its a run then im doing like, 7 ish miles right now approximately twice a week. i hit 20mile saturday to saturday like a week ago.
does that make galil-chan the queen?>>24320539
its never homo
Well if thats truly natty you're an inspiration m80. I just started lifting a few months ago, I've added ~10lbs (started out 150lbs 6'0" skinnyfat) and increased my bench to 180lb. Pathetic I know but at least I'm getting somewhere. Keep it up mayn, we're all gonna ma/k/e it
>not sure if tiny rifle or enormous spatula
Nowadays TCCC guidelines say 2-3 inches above, but recommends placing the tourniquet as proximally as possible if the exact location of the wound is unclear. Seeing as in combat it's not super easy to locate the wound precisely through a soldier's garments, this seems like a better approach. This also helps in that it's effective even if an artery is completely severed and it retracts up the limb.
Thanks for the info brethren. I learned something about tourniquetting today. Also I now know to view everything else I learned from that 1960s era field guide with a healthy suspicion.
I need to set aside some money and actually get my 'personal' plates.
I'll be selling my AR pretty soon and I'll get something else once I get back to the mainland. I'll be getting a new set of mag pouches when I pick my next rifle.
As for everyone with IFAK's, keep in mind a lot of that stuff has expiration dates and won't function properly if expired (Quik-Clot won't clot. The lube in the NFA gets nasty as fuck. Just check your shit).
For the people with ceramic plates, be careful with them. Dropping them on hard surfaces can reduce their effectiveness or break them.
Even the more expensive ceramic plates aren't designed to take multiple hits, they are designed to take one or two big ones. Also, multiple hits will turn your insides into goo anyway. There isn't penetration, but the energy is still dispersed into your chest.
>Email me if you have my address, I will be first to buy some AR500s from you. Been wanting to check those out. Even if I hate them the weight will be good for running.
Will do. Honestly AR500s are the cheapest plates I can find on the market that I'd feel comfortable wearing. I wouldn't offer anything to /k/ that I wouldn't operate in myself. Though I might shell out the extra $35 ea for the trauma pads to have a few less broken ribs from a high caliber shot. Even without the plates are rated to keep you alive.
Also, I figure I could order a several and save /k/ the convenience of not having to wait the 10week lead time that the manufacturer requires.
It was the bulk order of Gas Masks that stalled the Crimson Caravan financially. On the plus side $10 unused still in the plastic Russian Gas Masks + filter + carrying case will be available in February. Also each STALKER kit will come with a gas mask.
>I foresee many, many shekels in your future my friend.
I'm hoping so. Means the Crimson Caravan can continue expanding its inventory and NuggetFest can get increased funding.
>adding "S.T.A.L.K.E.R" temporary tattoos to the "Loner Kit" for the lolz
>So is the nuggetfest site your online store?
Yes. nuggetfest.com/store is the website, "Crimson Caravan" is just the store name. I also did my best to meet everyone but it was pointed out in the recap threads that I didn't get to each /k/ommrade. But with 80+ /k/ommandos I suppose it will no longer be possible to get to meet EVERYONE at NuggetFest.
Good to know. I was a combat lifesaver when I deployed in 2013 but information is constantly changing. I had Corpsman telling me what the "official" procedures were and then also saying what they found worked best but hadn't passed "trials" yet with the Marine Corps/Navy. By all means go with the most recent information.
Kit blowout soon /k/ommrade.
I use a (different brand, I don't know the name) Condor compact assault pack. The backpacks that go right on the plate carrier are kind of pointless if you have to take the carrier off to get into them.
Nice dubs, also solid work with everything so far. I need to order me some more /k/ radio stickers for family and friends. My Aunt is really freaked out by some of the shit I tack on to the end of the bulletins, but she still wants a sticker.
They make low-pro PCs that are pretty light and don't impede movement.
Even with a shorter barrel, they are still adequately accurate to utilize a scope.
The Condor compact assault pack will be good then. If you don't want Condor, there is like 10 companies that make an identical pack. If you want to spend a little more then the 5.11 24 hour pack.
that they do.
lol hunting for da asians?
Depends on the scope, that's just a 1-6x magnification so I definitely wouldn't call it overkill even on a 12-10.5" AR.
>wouldn't you be better off with a red dot?
Totally depends on the type of shooting you're doing.
>My Aunt is really freaked out by some of the shit I tack on to the end of the bulletins, but she still wants a sticker.
Haha, after some of shit you say I'm surprised you let your family listen to the bulletins.
>"that actually isn't the first time I've done laundry on acid"
>various violent comments
>various sexual comments
>various violently sexual comments
Damn, need to start looking into optics and funz accessories for new inventory after this next big overhaul.
Idno I just don't see the point in using a scope unless you're expecting to shoot beyond 100 yards.
Target identification and round fragmentation.
Unless its just for fun then sure its pretty sweet.
Beez has some super good deals on discount stuff right now.
I'll probably get in on one of these TCC starter kits but I'm tempted to try one of the Beez ones out in the meantime.
the want for tacticool is so real right nao
We're all gonna make it, bro. There are tons of qt azns that are nuts for the BBC.
>don't see the point in using a scope unless you're expecting to shoot beyond 100 yards
Farsightedness, astigmatism, and a lazy eye. It's mostly the farsightedness that kills iron sights for me. I can use them, but it gives me a KILLER headache to focus on anything closer than ~2ft from my face for any length of time, and if I focus on the target like you ought to with irons, they're just a useless blur
Carry on then, friend. I'm stuck using a red dot/reflex sight/scope on most of my long guns until I can manage to save the shekels for Lasik without blowing it on weaponry
>tfw had the money set aside for Lasik twice now and instead spent it on ammo
>Idno I just don't see the point in using a scope unless you're expecting to shoot beyond 100 yards.
I agree, that's why I'm a big support of variable magnification like the 1-4x, 1-6x, or the 3-9x.
Love me some SPRs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v00pc9-zP_s
Admittedly the color coordination is a key factor. Seemed like a cool concept to have a choice between Olive Drab, Coyote tan, and Black matching sets of operator gear (gloves plate carrier, mag pouches, shegmah, etc). Unfortunately Beez doesn't have that range of color options.
Although I could do a multicam bundle and include Beez plate carriers with them.
Ironsights master race here. Joking, haven't had funds for optics yet. Ironsights til ten.
I'm actually building my PC right now, only reason I didn't post my own pick, would recommend. Super low profile if desired.
They have one of their low-pro AR500 carriers in ranger green for like $45 right now and the only reason why I haven't bought it yet is because I have FDE furniture on my AR.
I'm in the south though and FDE isn't really the most appropriate color for down here so going to a green would probably be a good idea.
Nothing wrong with oron sights, they been working fine for 2+ centuries. Hell if anything our generation is spoiled with all the advancements in optics and sights, and they forget about the badic fundamentals of marksmanship
>really good younger friend of mine is turning 15 soon
>wants to use his first paycheck if he manages to get a job to buy tacticool shit because he wants to be an operator
he's basically /k/ incarnate, and has been since he was like 11.
Didn't see any solid Black, OD, or Coyote Tan. Just a few camo variations around Multicam. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
I qualified with Iron sights before the ACOG was standard. It's familiar. Thought optics are nice too if I wanted to see/hit a silhouette beyond 500yds.
This >>24321641 meaning Crimson Caravan shit. *sarcasm*
Well now I feel foolish. I hadn't realized that clicking on individual plate carrier models brings up the color selection. Thank you anon. After I start off with the "Basic Operator Kits" and the "STALKER Kits" I'd be happy to do "Standard Operator Kits" with the higher quality/cost Beez plate carrier.
What shoulder pads do you guys suggest. I run ar500 plates and my MARZ shoulder pads are alright. I've heard the HSGI ones are nice but I was looking at the First Spear pads.
I'm 6 inches taller than you but you could probably take me down easily in CQC
You look like Captain America
He's just joking, so am I for that matter.
It's all he has.
Yoga/sleeping mats make great cheek risers too.
I picked up an old mannequin to mount all my stuff on.
That camo mismatch and secondary flag patch are upsetting me and I don't know why. Also the mags should be put in order and why is there cord on just one pocket?
If you could get a Standard Kit together for me around the same time you do the basic ones I'd happily pay you a few shekels extra for the trouble. I like the look of the Beez carriers a little bit better and they have a bit more variety which is nice.